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>>7722176I’ve been studying 3D sculpting around 2023–2024 but my results have been abysmal and I’ve felt demotivated since November last year. I never had any reason to learn other than to have a normal hobby outside of video games, but i don't wanna complain about childhood and regrets, i have a question:Do you need to learn to draw to do 3d sculpting? I've been struggling alot with anatomy and stylized shapes, when i did the picasso exercise for symbol drawing in school back when i was underage, i was so frustrated i felt like i was being trolled, i've never had help from anyone and never expected one in my friend circle so i kept trying until i gave up during covid and learned 3d blender instead, but i still struggle with similar issues in sculpting form.
How am I supposed to have fun with drawing when I have to draw backgrounds? Drawing a tile floor in perspective is just not very fun, ok?
The "just blind copy bridgman twice" thing is just a meme, right? I'm doing it now as an ultra beg and I'm fucking up everything. There has to be a step I'm missing, right?
>>7722251It is a meme, but it kind of works. Some people suggest doing the second round of copying by memory, but I've never tried that so I don't know how effective it is. The truth is drawing/copying anything for long periods of time will be effective to various degrees, so you'll probably get something out of it
>>7722251It's a meme yeah. You won't get much from studying anatomy as a "ultra beg". Plus Bridgman is bit harder to learn from since his sketches are quite loose and the instruction is a bit lacking. I would only recommend it once you are decent at figure drawing and have at least basic anatomy knowledge.
>>7722176How am I supposed to transition from learning perspective to actually drawing figures and characters in perspective? I can draw either things separately, but I'm completely unable to combine them
>>7722262Try to draw it freehand/intuitively but place the horizon line at least to keep vanishing points in mind. If things go wrong, then break it down analytically, using the perspective knowledge that you have learned. If there's knowledge or techniques you are missing, look in books or video courses for them. When you are looking for specific answers, it's easier to find the knowledge you need.Specifically for drawing figures in perspective, drawing the ground plane they are standing on is useful. And wrapping lines around their forms to see how their limbs are in perspective. And drawing a box around them too see where they sit in space.Tools like perspective grids or 3D mock ups in Blender can help too.
How the hell do I draw characters accurately. I make sure to use references and even draw over said ref but it never turns out right.
>>7722313You use the refs to draw the character you want accurately in your style. Your goal is not to draw them 1:1 in the og artist's style. Pic related is famous anime characters drawn in Simspons' style.
>>7722176Is there any guide explaining how jiggle physics should move relative to each motion? Especially when you factor in stuff like feet touching the ground
someone give me a rundown on what the fuck is wrong with /dtg/
What should my workflow be?
>>7722708Sketching whenever, lineart in the morning/day before you exhaust yourself and coloring and rendering whenever
Any tips for maintaining symmetry in faces? I know it doesn't need to be 1:1 but I feel like I spend way too much time flipping back and forth trying to make them somewhat even.
>>7722708That's something you figure out on your own buddy boi. It's like a nen user asking "What should my Hatsu be?" we don't even know what kind of art you make! watch other people and look at their workflowMy ideal one is >Thumbnails (finding basic composition)>sketching>Finding the value hierarchy >Finding the color hierarchy>line art>flat colors>renderingAll while checking if what I want to communicate is still there. But I get undisciplined sometimes and want to rock and roll so I make a sketch paint from there and spend more time trying to correct mistakes I made from rushing the beginning more than anything.
>>7722653Gross.
>>7722886added to the filters
>>7722933This isn’t your blog, faggot.
>>77227081. make a finished picture by any means necessary while writing down your steps2. Think if any steps could be simplified3. Ask for critique and add steps that would allow you to avoid mistakes you've made4. Go back to step 1 while keeping in mind what you've learned in steps 2 and 3Literally that simple.
>>7722708Here's one recommended by Peter Han in his Dynamic Sketching course.
How do you draw/render a good back when everyone's back seems to look wildly different IRL? When trying to look at real-world reference photos I can barely tell muscles apart from each other when they're small, it looks like everyone had noticeably different should blade shapes and definition, and it seems like when the back gets muscular enough it just hides everything that has to do with the shoulder blades entirely, and there's a bunch of overlap between groups
>>7722176Is using X/Twitter even matter nowadays?I'm a beginner comic artist doing R-18 doujin and sell them on DLsite & Melonbooks.I've made 1 ero-doujin so far, it's sold 500 downloads in 3 months.Not much.I'm thinking of opening a Xitter account for marketing purpose and building interests for my next works.My plan is posting teasers of my current doujin I'm working on, writing things like "Frieren goblin gangbang doujin—release date: Jan 2025." to rack up exposure.Would have social media in 2025 as a new artist just spin my wheels?
How do you start a figure drawing
>>7723284I always start with the head
>>7723209Use the sites where potential audience are. You can use many sites. Different peope use different sites.
how do I make perfect graphic symbols like this?
I'm a self taught gamedev and I need an advice on software picking for 2D stuff. I used to draw with Krita a few years ago and got back to drawing recently with pencils and paper but now I want to try digital painting and since (as a gamedev) I'm planning on doing texture work/photo editing and stuff like that (for textures), I was wondering if I was better off learning Photoshop right now or stick to Krita?
>>7722180It’s not REQUIRED for 3D modeling, but knowing how to draw does help a lot.
>>7722180Absolutely yes. Anatomy for example is mandatory for you to learn as well as shape blocking if you want your sculpts to look good.
>>7723720Personally I don't want to depend on anything that is paid and also Adobe may or may not be training AI with your art, so my advice is to stick to Krita and/or Inkscape
How do I make money off of english porn manga? What about original oneshots? Reading >>7723209, I'll check out DLsite and Melonbooks but aren't these just for japanese text?
where can I get on action poses? figure drawing packs are so uncanny with their pose selection and can rarely do anything with them that looks cool
Best way to mask my artstyle? My friends browse 4chan but I want to draw weird porn on /d/ without them knowing it's me.
does anyone know the name of this artist who used to post on /ic/?they got really really good at figures, and mostly paint portraits, primarily of pretty white females with fantasy/galaxy themes, and iridescent sheen to everything. they're popular on tumblr/social media now I believe.I could be completely wrong but I think their name started with something like sydney or samantha.
>>7723899nevermind, remembered their namesyd mills / vetyr / vetyyr
Are coomers self-aware as to how ridiculous their porn looks?
i've tried taking figure drawing classes at my local junior college and most of the class is very short speed-draws of a live figure, sometimes with weird challenges like continuous line or blind drawing. it feels very backwards to me, shouldn't i be focusing on how the human body works rather than these weird challenges? or is learning to draw on hard mode first the whole point of drawing? i'm a very technical-minded person so the looseness of figure drawing is hard for me to get. i think i'll stick with 3DCG.
>>7722216Simplify backgrounds when they're not the focus. For example, just draw the tiles fully under the character's feet and imply the rest. If you look at many modern artists' backgrounds they are no more than carefully placed blobs of paint.Also your drawing software probably has a perspective guide tool.
>>7724447i doubt they care about the viewers like you who are not their target audience
>>7722216It becomes more fun the better you get at it>>7722653Just by looking at the gif it moves the same way as her body/acessories, down when touching the ground, up when in the air.>>7723850Learn a wildly different one
>>7722176How do I know when I'm ready for comms?
was this made in watercolors or colored pencils?
How do I make a effect similar to this in Photoshop?
>>7725270To what?
>>7725271To normal images with flat backgrounds. I'm trying to come up with a minimalist design for a mat and I'm trying to achieve a monotone or duotone like this.
>>7725275You draw it with one color?
>>7724907When you have confidence to open your comms. You might not get comms right away, but once your audience grows and your works start to resonate, potential commissioners want to see if you are available for comms and what your prices are. In Twitter make sure your name shows whether your comms are open "Name" "COMMS OPEN", in DA and Pixiv your nickname shows if you are available for in-site comms. Have your price list pinned and have the price list also show in your profile as the first thing. The most important thing is to show you are available.Also you can fake traction by drawing something for yourself of popular characters and just post it and say it's anonymous comm. When people see you already do comm works, they relate you with successful artist who's also currently available
I'm trying to draw a particular expression, something that conveys 'shy and nervous' but it keeps coming out more 'smug'. could someone do a quick sketch of the former? just some eyes and eyebrows to give me an idea, not a detailed drawing.
>>7725347Did you google the expression and used them as reference. Did you google how other artists do it?
>>7725347Show us.
>>7725366I was trying to imagine it myself first.in context, a girl is just to the right whispering sweet nothings into his ear and he's looking away in embarrassment.
>>7725372>I was trying to imagine it myself first.Stop that. Use references. The more you use references, the larger your mental library and own understanding grows. It's easier to draw from imagination AFTER you have saved the crucial info into your memory.
>>7725376alright.
>>7725333>fake traction by drawing something for yourself of popular characters and just post it and say it's anonymous commCringe.
What's the etiquette for using other people's clothing designs in fanart? How do you give "credit" properly if that makes sense?>see cool clothes design in fanart of character>want to draw her in the same clothes>don't want people to think I created the designIs the simple fact of me being later and drawing the same character already imply a sort of "tradition" and paying honor to the previous art that's clear without words?
>>7725387You can mention the source of the design.
>>7725387Don't botherEveryone is copying eachother, no one actually gives a shit about credits (unless it's AI for some reason, I guess). Don't guilt yourself into thinking you need to be a good boy, because you're just shooting yourself in the foot for no reason.
>>7725390How do you do this without being annoying/cringe or trying to generate false engagement? It's a Japanese artist, I can speak in JP but don't want to bother them if it makes sense.
>>7725397I think the Western conception of IP/credit is overrated and a lot of inspiration/copying is organic and clear but it feels wrong to just copy something I specifically liked so much and people think I created it.
>>7725398Stop creating problems in your heads. No artist is going to be mad for being credited for their design other artist was inspired to use.You don't have to mention them if you are such a socially anxious retard. It's in good manners to give credit where it's due but if you feel your mental prison is stronger and more valid than doing the morally right thing, suit yourself.You have options: Mention the og artist, tag the og artist or don't mention nor tag them at all.
>>7725398>How do you do this without being annoying/cringe or trying to generate false engagement?What in God's name are you talking about? Maybe you'd feel better if you simply didn't post it.
>>7722176How do you draw a cube in 3d space? Like how do you decide the length and angles, plane of edgelines? I can't imagine 3d cubes in my head like i can but they are not precisely 3d. They seem like enigma to me i don't know the mental process of it
how do I draw like this?
>>7725402>No artist is going to be mad for being credited for their design other artist was inspired to use.That does make sense, I've gotten replies before for complimenting similarly sized accounts that follow each other and draw the same characters. Tagging the artist and saying that I liked the design seems to be the best play.>>7725460I don't want to annoy Japanese people for no reason as a sign of respect for their culture. Isn't that normal?
>>7725542Japanese artists love baka gaijin artists giving them attention. They go all tsundere.
>>7722176where is that thread where one draws and re-animate someone elses drawing?
Will saying>I only accept payment through CryptoJust kill any chances of me getting commissions?
>>7725801If you're based enough and people care about the art they will find a way. If I want to support Patreon or something I ask the creator if he accepts crypto directly if I can.At least stating it's an option is going to be good for visibility.
HOW do I reduce the chances of getting reuploaded to PINTEREST?
>>7725801The more hoops you make the client jump through to get to commission you, the less comms you will get. The best bet is use the site's insite commission system (DA and Pixiv) or established payment system majority use (PayPal). If person can use PayPal, they can use DA and Pixiv insite commission systems.
>>7726252Your goal is not to reduce chances of someone uploading your stuff to Pinterest. Your goal is to have other people amplify your art's reach.
how the christ do you even thumbnail out how to get this level of movement
>>7726276https://archive.org/details/HowToDrawComicsTheMarvelWayAlways go for extreme and exaggarated.
>>7723719>>7723719symmetry or mandala ruler
What makes pepe the frog such a likeable, versatile character?
>>7726529my impression is that he's cute while also being ugly and kind of pathetic which is relatable to us. he's not polished and beautiful or anything
how do you tell if a nib is too worn out already? does this one look normal?
Am I gay if I become aroused when studying penis?
>>7724447yes, that's what makes it hot
>>7725542>annoy Japanese people for no reason as a sign of respect for their culturei dont think ignoring someone (or placing them on a pedestal) is particularly respectful, artists love acknowledgement and praise, as long as you dont genuinely spam them w mentions multiple times a week you'll be fine
>>7726558>how do you tell if a nib is too worn out already?1. The side of the pen makes contact before the nib2. The nib is becoming too short to remove>does this one look normal?Yes. It does not need to be changed.
>>7726575That's completely normal for women, ma'am.
>>7726529The same reason people self-insert themselves to Donal Duck in Donald Duck stories while Mickey Mouse is more of idealistic hero arch type. We are drawn in to characters with vices we identify with. Donald and Pepe are not perfect, they have their own shortcomings and they are universal. Same with Goofy, same with Watson compared to Sherlock Holmes. We don't self-insert as Superman or Batman, they are the heroes and they are too perfect. We do however self-insert to early Simpsons' Homer, Garfield any other Average Joe stereotype because they feel more real, more imperfect.
I'm doing the proko basics courseShould I be concerned about my line quality, or am I just playing on hard mode by using mostly an HB on slightly rough sketch paper?I experimented with colored pencils and also with a legal pad (very smooth) one day and realized my lines looked way better than they do in say pic related
>>7726682it doesn't really matter what pencil or paper you use. use what you like the most.
>>7726529He is cute but imperfect. A vulnerable and sincere little guy. It's hard to not love him.
Thoughts about Monteverde Impressa for a fountain pen for drawing? I'm thinking about figure drawing and sketches, I've been looking into FP for a while but there's so many options and price ranges that I'm not sure what to look for. I'm mainly looking for something that can keep with my speed when sketching/doing figures. Also any other recomendations would be appreciated.
>>7726682I see you around a couple of threads, I was wondering why your lines look so shitty. Are you scanning these? In the age of quality phone cameras?
>>7726834I scanned with adobe scan on my phone. So my lines look shitty because of my paper / pencil choice?
Has anyone done any experiments into implimenting AI into their workflow? It's not very good for reference, but I know a guy who's been developing a system to help with inking his drawings.
>>7726682For rough sketches they're pretty good honestly. I would expect to see these below a better layer with ink
>>7726935I played with it some for various things, but it's literally slower than just doing it yourself the majority of the time. It might save some time on paper occasionally, but in realistic scenarios it falls short consistently enough that it's borderline useless.
>>7726278is this what vilppu means when he says his method lets you feel the pose and so you can do it from imagination later
>>7722176>first question is about 3D modelingerm mine is too. recently i’ve become familiar with how to use blender and model basic things. i didn’t pick it up as an art related thing initially, i just used it for modding some things in vidya. but now i’m interested in using it for art and animating with grease pencil. i’ve only ever used photoshop and sai and procreate for drawing. 2D drawing and 3D modeling have always been two separate worlds in my head. is it cheating if i use blender to make backgrounds and idk play around the lighting on still lifes and figures? where’s the line drawn?
>>7727177There really is no line, do whatever you want.
>>7727177https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZA6nitNeYw
>>7722176Does reposting art in Pixiv every week annoy your followers?I'd like to stay relevant when I'm don't draw any new art.
>>7727240In all likelyhood, they probably already forgot you drew it.
What should I do to keep from forgetting that I can fix mistakes rather than getting angry at myself and yelling at the iPad until my throat hurts because I’m such a fucking idiot for screwing up one something in a drawing I wish I was dead
how long until i get good at figure drawing>well anon that depends on your current skill and how much you practice andshut up. assume the minimum. give me a solid timeframe so I can set expectations for myself. thank you.
>>7727319Define "good". Poste axample of the skill level you aim for and your current skill
>>7727319You're trying to approach it like a video game, so realistically, never.
>>7727333idk like picrel. i haven’t touched a pencil in 2 years. i'm gonna give myself 6 weeks.
>>7727350Even if you were pre-beg you can reach that level in less than year
>>7727350>>7727355Oh yeah, when you do reach that level you won't feel you reached it and you yearn to improve more. You will never be 100% satisfied with your own stuff
>>7727355yeah that sounds like a reasonable enough goal for me. thanks anon i’ll come back then.
So let's say I want to draw something that I'm going to punch a hole in for aesthetics purposes. I know that my holepuncher is about an inch in diameter. How do I derive that into pixels so that I can mark where the hole is going to be as I'm drawing it? I just have to multiply that number with whatever DPI my canvas is on, right?
>>7727414if you have photoshop you can switch between pixels and inches pretty easily
>>7727417Wait, I'm on CSP, but as I recall switching from pixel to inches on PS wouldn't really work well for this because the canvas is usually larger than the printing size. Am I going to have to extrapolate the printing size and the canvas ratio on my own to get the pixels on that?
>>7722176When should I make the switch from traditional art to digital if my goal is to draw my husbando digitally?
>>7727682Now
>>7722176any contemporary artists lurking here? working towards exhibitions?
uh, so i have a potato pc etc and it can handle up to 5000x5000 resolution just fine, but the problem is some brushes with heavy settings lags a lot when it passes a certain size, so i can only ''fix'' this by using a smaller resolution, but then the resolution gets shiddy and i can't draw details comfortablyso,, does anybody have any tips on how to deal with this?????? (besides getting a better PC)
When should I give up?
What are some mantra I can tell myself to keep my narcissism in check?
What's the best posture for drawing? I can't help but feel that I'm ruining my back if I'm not using a drawing board/easel
>>7722176Does CSP have an actual solution for the lag of big simple round brushes?
Does everyone have a chance?
>>7728939Everyone but you, unfortunately
Are there books that focus on how to design ornate costumes? The clothes rather than overall character design or anatomy. I'm kinda lost about where to find it because logically principles would extend to fashion and film and not just drawing your OC. Even more if you wanna extend to fantasy/sci fi outfits and not just ones that could be reasonably seen on a modern realistic setting.
>>7729095Alternatively, how do you learn to do this shit
>>7726381thank you!
What causes this?
>>7729095Look up fashion/tailoring books, they aren't for drawers but still enough detail to reference as well as patterns/styles of the time period.
how do I tell the triceps and biceps apartand what the fuck is this lump on the elbow
>>7729175Like usually they're anteriorBut here, the triceps is seen before the biceps
>>7729179And then there's the flexors and supanator and extensors
>>7729175Biceps is on the same side as the pit of the elbow. Triceps is outside, where the tip of the elbow is.There's a bundle of tendons, vessels and a small muscles in the armpit where the bicep and tricep part
>>7729184What's the yellowgreen thing on the bone?Also, what anatomy can you discern here? I can't tell what's muscle and what's bone
how do you figure out how to render translucent objects that bend light?
>>7729192
>>7729192extensor carpi radialis longus and there's some more stuff underneathpicrelated is so skinny there's basically no definition and you're just counting tendons. Still pretty impressive that bony landmarks are pretty much the same as on a muscly person. All of the smaller muscles are completely lost though.
>>7729192>>7729227where do I find more anorexic refs like this
I've been drawing for like 2 maybe 3 months now, I've read some books like Fun with a Pencil and Bridgman constructive anatomy, and they been really useful, I feel I could use another book, which one would you reccomend?
>>7729356Keys to drawing is a must for any beginner. Should have been the 1st book you read.
Does anyone know any perspective grids for paperbros? I know you can use basically anything in CSP or Photoshop, but since I draw mainly for myself and on 11x17 paper I was kind of picturing a few plastic sheet perspective grids that you can just put underneath your drawing page to block out the perspective for a particular scene or drawing. I was thinking to just go into CSP (you can do it all for free iirc) and use the tools to create a few large images, basically like 6 or 7 different perspectives (worm eye, bird eye, 1 point center/left/right, etc) and seeing if I could have it printed but I'm not sure, maybe if the can print on acetate or something.
>>7729356Depends on your goals but something like Framed Ink or Will Eisner's Sequential Art book can put your brain into "storytelling" mode with your drawings
>Red surfaces like red delicious apples appear "red" because they reflect more red wavelengths than other colors, proportionatelyOkay, makes sense>Veins appear bluish or greenish because light, redder wavelengths included, are absorbed and not reflected by the blood (red); instead, the shorter greener and bluer wavelengths are reflectedSomeone explain this to me, this feels kind of backwards
>>7729348model in pic is wilkomiralook her up or search the archives 4chan's photo dumping boards
>>7725397Great artists steal!
>>7725187That's by Homare, I think his physical media works are done in colored pencils but this is not one of those.
>>7729476That image is journalism-tier. That is, the person who made it probably didn't understand what they were trying to represent.Your skin allows light to penetrate, and red light penetrates further than blue. Your skin also scatters this penetrating light. You are correct that blood reflects red light, but it also absorbs a small amount. So what happens here is the red light penetrates to the depth of the vessel, scattering as it does. This scattering at depth means that the blood in the vessel has many opportunities to absorb some of this red light. So compared to the surrounding flesh, the skin with vessels beneath redirect less red light back to your eye. As we always see color "in context", vessels at a certain depth appear bluish.The above is my own poor regurgitation of :Why do veins appear blue? A new look at an old question by Alwin Kienie. You can get it from sci-hub.
What photoshop, krita, or csp brush would you recommend for designing cartoony or chibi keychains with?
>>7729135wrong inspirations?
>>7729135I was about to say "the newest one is the best for once" and then I noticed the years below the images...While the 2012 one is not refined, it is surely better looking in general.
>>7729135He's evolving backwards, maybe he has that Benjamin Button disease
Will doing these female anatomy speed painting actually help me hammer in female anatomy so I can use it in my art from memory or will doing these just make me better at doing speed painting?
is it irrational for a beg to use smaller brushes because the fear bigger brushes can hide problems and be detrimental to improvement?
How much of drawing is hand work? Obviously your brain and eye are important, but you know, when I try to draw with non dominant hand it obviously doesnt feel same.
>>7730514different brushes do different things. using the default clip studio pencils or similar never hurt anyone, but you should get also get some skill with brushes you plan to use for your finished work.
Is warming up to draw a real thing like it’s not like you’re using your muscles this isn’t working out
is there a way to recolor cel-like shadows that doesn't look like shit if i'm doing digital? selecting them manually means the edges get ruined if i select them at 100% tolerance, playing with feathering doesn't help much, and if i turn down the tolerance it won't select the full shadow
>>7730757*paintbucketing, not selecting
>>7722180What's the source on this? Reverse image search doesn't work since 2022.
>>7730757Clipping maskIf that's not a possibility, use a brush with no antialiasing and downsample on export.
How come when I open people's art on twitter it doesn't seem like any of them have dimensions that make sense? It's always something like 1472x2301 or 2134x3292 instead of sensible numbers like 1500x2100 or 2000x3000
>>7730816they might have started with a round number canvas, then cropped arbitrarily at some point resulting in a random-ish dimension. they might have downscaled before posting too.
>>7730816Metric paper sizes + pixels per inchmost likely
>>7730801oh yeah the clipping mask is perfect actually, thank you
>>7730816personally speaking I start with a standard size for a canvas then resize or crop it to frame the final painting better, which usually results in a random dimension size
>>7730820>>7730821Huh. Couldn't be me I guess, I can't stand seeing weird numbers like those so I just rounded the paper sizes up to the nearest 100 or so
Anyone have lineart brush recommendations?? Something with variable lineweight and looks clean.
>>7732446Take any brush you want and make the pressure curve exponential. Make it much bigger than the line you want to make and press very lightly to make lines.
>>7732480I will try that. Do you recommend anything specific for outlines? I feel like my work doesn’t have that clean feeling.
>>7732548It really doesn't matter. Cleanliness really has more to do with good form and confidence than anything your brush is doing.The edited pressure curve just makes it easier to get a dynamic brush size while lightening the load on your wrist.
got picrel, now what? i can barely draw lines with it
>>7732697Why would you get an arm brace?
>>7732697You're not meant to use it while you draw. You use it while you sleep so you don't put it in a bad position while you sleep. Wearing it all the time will weaken your wrist and can make it worse. If your wrist hurts while you draw, you need to rest it so it can heal. Once it stops hurting you can do stretches and exercises to strengthen it.
>>7732699slight pain in my hand/wrist, got worried>>7732700oh thanks>you need to rest itless time to draw, oh no
>>7722176I have a theoretical: I remember people complaining about chargebacks and wonder if there's any way to protect yourselves from fraudulent chargebacks.
>>7732730Use art sites in-site commission services where the site acts as the middle man so neither artist nor client can screw each other over. Only give direct payment option to returning clients you trust.
Anyone drawing on laptop? Any tips for better productivity on a smaller screen?
>>7732710this video is kino as well for wrist pain.https://youtu.be/fdD7CgN5FGg
>>7722176Seriously, how the fuck someone learns to paint like this?I don't even understand the steps. Even a simple rendering of a drawing is really really hard...
I often get hung up on the idea that I'll be "learning wrong" (because I'm retarded).What I planned on doing was copying artists I like, only picking a few at first. And hopefully get a feel for drawing. I also planned on supplementing this with a few book studies, like on perspective or Vilppu because I like what I've seen of him. Like, copy, study a little, and try to reinforce what I studied by copying. That kind of process. That makes sense, right? Am I missing anything? I'm pretty bad at drawing right now, and I'd definitely need to work on my proportions a lot.
>>7733460You're thinking about this too hard. You're going to get stuck the second something doesn't go according to plan, which is pretty much immediately.Draw, find an issue, fix the issue, draw again.That's all.
Does anyone know how often I should post on Instagram or Twitter so that I don't have to rush my drawings but at the same time don't get shadowbanned?Once a week? What advice can you give me? I want to focus on practicing but I don't want to leave my social media accounts inactive in case I come back
is it possible to have AI give you exercises, to fully understand an art software?
>>7733464Yeah, you're probably right. I do overthink things a lot
>>7733554Have you tried asking it?
>>7733471>What advice can you give me?Instead of using algorithm based social media sites and treating them as your only watering hole, use actual art sites where people can see your art as long as they search the tags and you've tagged your works with the same tags. For example in Pixiv, Deviant Art and NewGrounds users can use just that. So when I post new work and it attracts new users, they also check my past works and engage with them building up my overall engagement and notority which leads to certain profile audiences to see more my stuff as they get featured in their home feed from the raised attention. Then you promote your algorithm based social media accounts there, which leads surge of new profiles picking you up in Instagram and Twitter and the sites' algorithm learns what's the target audience for your profile and posts and starts pushing you more to the relevant audience.
I want to learn how to colour well. What are my best options? Seems like digital might be the way to go but I despise adobe. I’ve got a 3rd gen IPad Air. I have some chartpak markers but they just leave a pool of ink at the end of every stroke. I just started drawing with pencils and then I ink over it on a separate page. Also if anyone knows what kind of film to use for animation that’d be great, nitrocellulose films are hard to find and expensive as fuck.
>>7722176is there a thread for business advice?what i mean by that is the inner workings of comissions and money transfers and what cash aps are safest especially now when gaypal is banning every porn artist and we know that eventually they will expand it on anime artistsjust cause they can
>>7734122If you use PayPal, tell your clients to type something very safe things. They don't need to type "Payment for the erotic drawing of Princess Peach ravaged by 3 giant dicks in pussy, ass and mouth" Instead have them type "Art counselling". You are chatting with your client about art project they want to see, right? So you are not providing them smut. You are sharing thoughts about common interest art and you are counselling them. See the difference? No highly detailed description of the smut they want, instead just nice and simple "Art counselling". You are not providing a product, let alone naughty product.Before letting your clients get access to your direct PayPal, have the first time clients us either Pixiv Requests or Deviant Art Shop Comms. Only the trusted returning clients get the direct PayPal. And if the client fucks up and types no-no words in the PayPal message, refund them immediately and tell them you won't work with them until they can follow clear instructions on what to type in the text box.
>>7734130thanks anon i am just gathering informations and opinionsof course i know not to use "horse cock inflation porn" in the descriptions of the paypal i more or less know corpo talk and to make it look normal>have the first time clients us either Pixiv Requests or Deviant Art Shop Commspixiv sees the comissioned pic right? DA doesn'twhat if i make a a nsfw patreon and set paypal as my main account? can paypal see nsfw content or do they just recieve a transfer from anon1234 or my real name?
>>7733554read a manual
where is a good discord / site to buy decent crit, preferably with redlining or paintovers
>>7734182>buy decent critYour fav artist's. But since you are too pussy to even contact them and ask for it, your next best option is to connect with artists of your scene and ask feedback privately.
>>7722176How? CGI? Photobashing?
>>7734218Anon her shoulder is attached to the side of her head, what do you think
>>7734279You blind?
Is it okay for me to practice two different things at once?For example, I'm doing a couple of CSI practices but is it okay for me to do some anatomy practice alongside it? Or after I'm done with those line practices?
>>7734562Yes? What the hell are you practicing CSI on if you're not applying it?
Ok so i am literally pre-beg. I've been practicing circles, boxes and lines for the last week, 1 hour per day.But i have some fineliner pens lying around. You guys think i should learn pencil first or can i jump to ink medium? Cus what i like is cartoon and anime so i am thinking pencil would be kinda useless to me...
>>7734625Stop. Just stop.Go draw anime. Use whatever tool you want.
>>7734629ok but i literally know nothing.Any books you recommend? By the way do you think one of those 'tracing' books children have would be useful, at least to get me started?
>>7734636Go find some videos of people drawing. Streams or something, doesn't matter who.
>>7734650Twitch?
>>7734665Sure, why not
>>7722176Realistically do I need a college degree related to drawing to start a career that involves a lot of drawing? Or can I get educated, draw as a hobby and break into the industry with the drawing talent developed over time?
>>7734671No but also yes.Most jobs don't give a shit about degrees. Freelance especially.But, industry stuff (games, movies) have specific workflows that you might want to go to school to pick up. Even if you can draw good, no one is going to hire you if you need to use some busted ass software and no one else can use any of your files.
>>7734676Thanks for clearing that up.
I got some questions:What are the social media sites to create if one wants to get a following nowadays?How does one derive fun from the drawing experience even when failing at drawing?
Anyone got any tips for drawing fish?
>>7734625I'm also pre-beg, I started with fineliners with the drawabox course, but it's hard to do searching lines and sketch with fineliner. Now I'm doing the proko course. Also colored pencil are way easier to get attractive line quality with, using graphite pencils like normal HB my pressure control is totally fucked, dunno if it's the same with anyone else
Do I need to learn pencil pressure control or can I just use a like 4h when I need light marks and a 4b when I need darkHB is pissing me off trying to get it consistently what I want it
>>7734773You're not really supposed to do searching lines with the fineliners. You pick a starting and ending point for your stroke, visualize the curve (or straight), and draw it in a single fluid motion.
>>7734907Yeah I know that. But drawing from imagination without doing searching lines is really fucking hard
>>7734909Well that's because you haven't practiced it, dumbo
>>7734904It's a good skill to have so it wouldn't hurt to learn it. But you can get away with switching pencils instead. Getting good with 2 or 3 would be a good compromise. Steven Zapata's course explains how to in great detail.https://youtu.be/oMm6X-abWsM?t=63https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evYw8lirlSU
>>7734758Seconding this but for painting them
>>7722176How to lineart with hard round/without weight so it didn't look like shit?
>>7734991Why don't you have weight? You using mouse?
>>7734992I do have tablet and draw on it, but i want to try something different
>>7734992>>7734994Something quick if this important
>>7732966(PS) "F" to full-screen modeclose tabs when not needed also remember to organize your workspace
>>7734991seconding this. I guess the obvious answer is 'use lineweight, retard'. but good lineweight is a talent skill, unfortunately, so us /beg/s have to make do.>>7734991I guess you can substitute lineweight with opacity? it has a similar effect
>>7735048If you keep running away from hard things, the things going to stay hard
>>7735048Yeah, i that's kinda works better. I think i should practice more
>>7735098>If you keep running away from hard thingsno line weight is a restriction, so it's the other way around. I'm maling things harder for myself
I suck at drawing, like pre-beg tier drawing. Yet I still want to enjoy drawing. How do you guys derive fun out of this so that at least the struggle is enjoyable?
how do i study drawing faces? this looks so bad.
>>7735174>I'm maling things harder for myselfAgreed but from completely different viewpoint.>>7735201Well, maybe be critical of what you produce, pay attention what you need to fix and improve on the next pic. Don't stop drawing. Keep drawing. But be mindful. You noticing it looks bad is a good sign.
What social medias are worth setting up for the purpose of showing off your work?
>>7735277Different people use different sites.My sites from most active to least active go: Deviant Art, Pixiv, Twitter, Instagram, NewGrounds, Tumblr. You need to go where your audience is.
How do you retain what you study? I've been going for 3-6 hours per day for half a year now and I remember maybe around 10% of what I studied. I'm so sick of grinding fundies.
Can someone recommend a ink course for a absolute ultra beginner who doesnt even know the proper way to hold a pen?I thought about proko's but his are on pencils and i am not a fan.
is it bad to trace art so you can learn how they drew it? I'm trying to draw a character in a weird perspective that I've never done before and I feel like the only way to do is by physically tracing over the reference to help me understand it betterI'm just wondering if this is a bad habit or if I should just keep trying to eyeball it
>>7736019I don't recommend tracing the finished pic but what might help you is to bring the finished pic to your canvas and reverse-engineer it. Lower the pic's opacity and mark the head, eye levels, joints, torso and limb for you and see how the og artist has angled and constructed the pic,
>>7736025I didn't mean trace it and keep it in the drawing. I was thinking more of tracing it then keeping the trace as a reference and trying to eyeball the trace, if that makes sense
>>7736028The finished trace only helps you see the finished silhoutte and that doesn't help you. What would help you is to study how the og actual constructed the pic and executed the lines and why. You want simple solution to complicated problem.If you want to trace it and feel you gain something from it, by all means do it. You don't need our permission to do it. If you want affirmative feedback for your idea even if it's fake, just say so and I can pretend to like your idea and how it will totally help you.
>>7736032hmm okay I'll try your first suggestion and see how that goes
I'm working on a set of logos or whatever for my site. I like this, but this isn't enough for a logo. I thought adding some mushrooms to the bottom right might be a good idea, but I still don't really have any ideas for a 'logo' per se.
>>7736568Another one I liked. I through some stuff in the style of Ernst Haeckel could work? Some colorful shroomage.
>>7736568>>7736569I also spent some time leaning into the 'pacific' theme with an octopus. If anyone has any cool ideas I'd be really appreciative. I think I have the icea for the style/theme of the site down, but am still trying to decide what to do for the 'logo'. This image would also look cool if the octopus was colored. I'd go red like a giant pacific octopus. potential for that to be the logo/mascot or something.
Once I'm done with my warm ups and line practice, what I should do next? Just draw what I want?
how in the FUCK you get comissions as a beginner in social media? Been trying to get the ball rolling since the start of the year but cant find any clients neither on twitter or reddit what do?
>>7736721My comms come from Deviant Art and Pixiv. If you are beginner, you using algorithm based sites like Twitter and Instagram leaves you at mercy of algorithm and since you have no idea how to play the algorithm, you will be posting to the void hoping algorithm suddenly picks you up.Use your brains. How do people find new artist and art? What makes them want to commission particular artist? If you can't answer these simple questions, you will stay in your rut.
Should i be learning how to draw basic shapes(lines, circles, elipses) from different angles or should i just tilt my board?
how do you construct poses that are in an unusual angle? I'm trying to learn how to do construction in many different poses but some of them are really strange and I'm not sure I can make a shape that fits for every single part of the body
what are these horizontal lines going across this model?
Asking here first before making a thread; I'm trying to make some Glitch Art, and the process isn't working. I've been following a guide to the T and here's how it goes;>Have the drawing (png)>Export as .tif using Krita>Open .tif as a Raw Header in Audacity with A-Log encoding>Fuck up the audio and mess with it a bunch>Export the file as .raw with A-Log encoding>Change file extension from .raw to .tif>Cannot open file in Krita (I should be able to open the file in Krita)>It says it cannot parse the file format with no other detailsDoes anybody here with the expertise on digital art know what might be wrong with what I'm doing or potential problems? It seems inexplicable since Krita can handle .tif files fine and nothing online indicates that this SHOULDN'T be working. Can't upload a picture since I'm photobanned for some reasonWhat do?
>>7737417literally just creases from sitting down with a rounded out spine
>>7722176Any good guides and resources to learn proper lineart? I am having issues choosing the right thickness to my art and also making small details.Friend told me I should look up on line weight. so hopefully someone can point me to the right direction.
>>7736967Are you asking about the literal different angles? Like, veering off the side of the board instead of the usual work posture?
>>7737417Sternum, navel muscles, and pelvic/oblique indentation.
>>7737672>(You)I mean like, when you draw a line, left to right and top-down to down-top and right to left, and elipses, circles doesnt really matter cus well tjhey are circles.Depending on the direction i draw my lines usually curve.
Hey fellas, pre-beg here.Is loomis still the go-to?
>>7737907Yes. And if you want Loomis but in not-Loomis format, you can also use https://archive.org/details/HowToDrawComicsTheMarvelWay
>>7737480Can you ever get rid of them?
>>7737924just keep your spine straight for some time and they'll go away. Probably depends on the person how fast
>>7737897Ah, gotcha. Wasn't sure if by tilting you meant like, changing the roll angle of your board instead of the yaw.I personally work with keyboard shortcuts to flip and rotate the canvas, that way any line that I have to draw can be prepped for the stroke direction that I'm used to which is left to right. I feel like if I had a bigger working space I'd have more room to do right to left strokes though, and I would say if nothing else it's good to practice strokes you're not familiar with to make your workflow go quicker
>>7737921Seems nice. Will read it.I guess i also need to actually draw. I know i am shit at it but you cant improve if all you do is exercises...The fear of failure is real.
>>7737948To get good at something, you must first do the thing badly. As long as you keep drawing, you keep winning.
>>7737950Yeah that's true. Gotta learn to love the journey.
As an aphantasiac I can’t imagine what it would be like to improve please describe the feeling how can you tell when you’ve improved does it have to be a lot
>>7738164Save your finished works to a single folder on PC or phone. Scroll through them from earliest to latest.
>>7722176anyone knows where the pic rel comes from? loomis?>>7735201i think that's a very nice male face anon :)
>>7738361I’ve drawn a lot of boxes. Is that good?
>>7736630anyone?
>>7738459Are the boxes finished pieces you wanted to draw?>>7738816Yes. Draw what you want. Be self-critical, note the things you want to improve on, study them and do another piece
>>7725187Looks digital to me
Where can i get a clean copy of zbrush without contracting digital aids
Fellas, like absolute begginer here. Like 1 week in.But... how do i deal with hand occluding where my line is going with pencils?Like, i am drawing a line from left to right but i cant contrl where it ends cause i cant see it!Which is why i've been trying to do it right to left but it feels awkward asf
>>7739674Ghost where you want your line to go beforehand, and then draw it blind.
>>7739674Hello anon, I'm another pre-beg here but i can show you the waythe only way you are going to get better is practice, there are quite a lot of ways you can go about it practicing lines and I would recommend getting a ruler and doing a line. after that try and trace it without the ruler. do this every single day before you start to draw as a warm up and you will get the hand of it later. The ghosted method that other anon metioned is good too! But remember you have to put some variety with your lines. Try to do a couple flat ones and then slowly try different angles. after that try doing S curves and C curves with the same method
>>7730388speed painting/drawing is really meant for drawing gestures, capturing flowing lines, and focusing on the defining shapes of a figure. If you want to learn anatomy, you need to do longer sketches practicing proportions, muscle groups, different body parts, etc and actually focus on those specific things so you can retain the info and build your internal library>>7730514some artist use a bigger brush for sketches to keep things vague and work out details later, painters use the biggest brush they can manage for a specific task for brush economy. But alot of it comes down to taste. You might be overthinking it, use whichever brush is comfortable to you
>>7737668I cant recommend any specific tutorials or anything, by I can give you a quick cypher i keep in mind for line weights:>thicker lines on the start of a curve, thinner at the apex of the curve>thicker/thinner line at corners/plane changes>thicker lines at line intersections>lines facing light source are thinner, lines in shadowed area are thicker; treat lines as value>use line weight to show depth, eg things in backround have thinner linesnow go look at a bunch of manga/comics/whatever, and youll see alot of these guidelines being used
>>7737261not sure if I understand, but it sounds like an issue with foreshortening and shape manipulation. When dealing with weird angles, the shapes youre drawing for the body should be the exact same, just at a different angle.
Do you technically need an art degree to make it in all things related in art related industries?
>>7722176How do you recover from wasting your youth playing vidya? Vidya just doesn't do it for me anymore. I'm looking for a new hobby to get into to fill the void. Also what art social medias should one have at all times?
How do I draw women that read as MILFy?
>>7739797No you don't need on at all, they only care about your portfolio.An art degree makes getting a visa to work in another country a lot easier, so it's good for that.
I'm trying to learn how to draw heads and faces. What's a good way to go about this? Practice basic shapes and skull anatomy? Planes of the face?
>>7737477tested it myself, krita has some unexplained bytes in its tiffs. i know for sure you can use gimp to fuck around with headerless data if you use extension .data, not to mention the options you get for interpreting are manually adjustable and you get a live preview.
>>7740000depends on how you view the world
whats the difference between rythym and gesture?
How do I draw full bodies, I feel I don't know where to start
>>7741984the head and then the direction/motion of the spine. build off that like a lego set.
>>7741652Gesture is showing character's intent and directions of movement and force. Rhythm is presentation and giving the viewer pleasant time as their eyes wander the pic
Does it make sense to get better at drawing something the more you draw it but if you were any good then you should have nailed it on the first try right only people who suck waste time drawing it wrong the first times I hate myself I wish I was dead
>>7742125Drawing is very hard, most people can't even draw a straight line or a decent circle after multiple attempts. People can only nail stuff the 'first time' if they've already spent 100s of hours drawing similar things.
Im trying yo beef up my process in building the torso. Any recommended videos or excersizes?
How do I peddle my ink art to local businesses? My plan is to just show up at the stores of people I like and say "here", handing them a piece of paper with no frame or anything. I'm hoping this could get me a coffee at a local joint I like. Another plan is to show up to an artist alley even uninvited and sell my shit at donation prices.
>>7722176Digital drawing on krita questions 1) quite a lot of my brushes look overpixelated at the edges. Do I just draw at bigger scales and turn up some universal antialiasing somewhere?2) the bucket fill (and magic wand selector) tool always either underfills or overfills around edges, and each time I either have to reoptimize it or have to touch the fill up manually anyway, making me question fill's usefulness. What I'm doing wrong?inb4 get other drawing software
>>7742166Contact them beforehand by emails and messages bruh, don't put them on the awkwardness spot. If you want to be direct then go easy and soft and show it's ok if they won't be interested to go along with that. Look at it from their perspective...
>>7742326I don't recommend fill. You would need to have it go over few pixels to fill the spots. I lay the flat myself, it's faster for me.For brush size, yes find a good ratio in canvas size and brush size. For example I use around 30-50 pixel sized pencil brush for sketchin in 8000x8000 and 20-30 pixel sized g pen for inking. And yeah you are expected to go config the particular brush to your liking. Click the brush icon on top of the canvas to set it how you like, like smoothness and so on. For inking you can consider using the dynamic brush tool from the left instead of regular brush.Experiment and see what works best for you
>>7742336>and 20-30 pixel sized g pen for inkingcanvas size 5000x5000 for inkingSize of canvas depends on your toaster. I recommend using bigger than smaller.
I had a screenless tablet for two years now and it STILL feels like its too slipper and the pressure sensitivity is too much.I dont think it will get better. I feel im doing something wrong , this cannot be the whole screenless tablet experience.
>>7743554you can use felt nib and/or paper on the surface to have more friction so it's less slippery feeling. adjust the pressure curve too, it's personal preference so you have to see what you like.seems like some people can't get over the disconnected feeling of a non-display tablet. you might wanna try a screen tablet. try out an ipad at an apple store or something to see how you like it. used cintiqs can be good deals. or wait for black friday for a new one.
>>7743554Wear paper on top of it like everyone else. Also go to the tablet settings to set the sensitivity to your liking
does krita have estab? how do i disable?
I think my dominant hand is getting progressively weaker and thus resulting in shaky lines and I don't know what to do about that
>>7722176How do I find good reference images to draw or paint without wasting all my time browsing the internet looking for the perfect or ideal images or just fucking off?
>>7743774photobashing or use your own camera
Why did I suddenly feel the need to start using 4Chan specifically on its anniversary?
>>7743924Only you know the true answer to that, TBadCam
why is making straight lines on a digital tablet(screenless) so fucking hard?This is pissing me off so much i am considering throwing it in the trash and keeping at trad until i get the money for a screen tablet.
>>7744913How do you draw straight lines traditionally? With a ruler. Your drawing program has line tool.If you weren't trolling then check if your drawing tablet is straight in the middle in front of your screen and correct. Wear paper on top of the tablet for better traction.It sounds you are very new to digital drawing so get accustomed with the tablet by browins internet with it instead of using mouse. When you train new tool, it's good to practice using it with something you are already familiar with.Also config the tablet sensitivity settings so they work for you instead of you adapting to them.
>>7744918My issue is the screen is so smooth the line easily veers off.Rulers? I dont use a ruler, xrawabox says i need to know how to draw straight lines... not perfectly but still.
>>7744920i dont know who your eceleb shittuber is but using a tablet is not the same as trad drawing and shouldnt be equated to it. one is drawing on paper the other is plastic. one has latency the other doesnt unless you have parkinsons. digital drawing will never equate to traditional in any way nor will it replace it. they are two separate things with separate skill
>>7744920Wear paper on top of the tablet
>>7745000Frankly i think i will keep to trad...the only downside is that its WAY more expensive
>>7745603i do both
How the fuck do I learn about drawing mechanical parts in a non-overwhelming way for retards (artists), their functionality and real life counterparts for easier ideationMore importantly how do I differentiate between the usual purely aesthetic "greebles" and something that's actually meant to serve some functionLike in the picrel for example, what are those circled things meant to be? Vents? Knobs? Modular ports? This is just a single example but I hope you get my issueA book/course name would be helpful, I'm probably overthinking this way too much but I sometimes chat with artists who seem to have a much better grasp on this and they're by no means well versed in hard engineering, maybe industrial design at bestIt just feels like theres this inbetween liminal space of knowledge between art and functionality that I could be tapping into, but I'm not
I hadn't seen this thread, so I guess no one will mind if I repost.There's no /beg/ /mid/ thread, so I'm posting here. It wasn't 30 minutes, but almost an hour. Anon told me the other day that my 3/4 faces weren't that great, and I've been trying to improve them for a couple of days. It looks decent to me, but it's hard if I don't fully understand what I might be doing wrong.A little feedback or an r8 would be nice.
>>7745910I might in the future, once i buy a screen tablet.Screenless is too niggermade for me.
>>7722176How a cast shadow is supposed to look on another object? Is it supposed to be a flat sharp shadow, without even reflected light? I am confused.
