Why you should not trust youtube shills:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH1WEYF8rlAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twy5Wo8m284Do not worry pressure levels. 1024 is more than enough.Remember to ignore all chinese shills. They often post paid twitter promos from random artists. It's all shilling, ignore it.Recommended tablets:>Screenless:Used Intuos 3, 4, 5, Pro, One by Wacom>Display:Small (10-11"): Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 LiteMedium (12-16"): Samsung Galaxy Tab S8/S9 Ultra, used iPad Pro 12.9" Gen 1-5Large (22"+): Cintiq 22, Cintiq Pro 27Avoid:>XP-Pen, Huion, Gaomon and every other Chinese brand making Wacom imitationsPoor build quality, pens with wavy lines, wobbly nibs, broken tilt, issues registering light pressure, terrible customer support, uncalibrated displays. All Chinese brands have the same problems. Check out the webm to understand how bad they are.Do not be fooled by myths like "Chink companies are just as good as Wacom now" - they've been saying this for over 10 years, nothing has changed.Chinese companies have also been proven to shill on 4chan. You will see dozens upon dozens of posts in this thread by a chinese schizo shill, who will either be bitching about the OP, gaslighting as a Wacom fan, making pointless spam posts or giving terrible advice (like recommending Huion). Just ignore and report him.>New iPadsMassively overpriced and overhyped.>Microsoft Surface ProMore optimized for palm rejection than good quality drawing. Wobbly lines when drawing slow and straight.>Cintiq 13-16"Completely outclassed by the Galaxy Tab Ultra & iPad>Cintiq Pro 16, 24, 32Overpriced, QC issues, loud fans, proprietary mount interface>LenovoWorse than Samsung in every way.Previous: >>7682586
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>random image spam in the last thread instead of shit scraped off of archiveshe's evolving.. my god.. the AItard might even one day evolve to actually start drawing as well....
Is the Galaxy Tab S11 a meaningful upgrade over the S10?
Hello! I wanted to post a review of anyone is indecisive. I bought the galaxy tab s6 lite after you guys spoke so highly of it and I highly recommend it. It's cheaper on amazon than it is on the samsung website. This is my first tablet but I already see my art shooting forward in quality. This was one of the first sketches I made. It may not be fantastic by ic standards but this is one of the best portrait sketches I've made. 10/10 super smooth and portable. Thank you guys for this great recommendation
obvious samefaggotry
What should I buy, /ic/?>the max I'm willing to spend is ~$300>I live in the U.S, not stating anywhere specific since that doesn't really matter
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>>7722329>Avoid Lenovo - Bad drawing performance.Is that really true?
>>7722413Yes, the Galaxy Tab S11 is definitely a meaningful upgrade over the S10! The S11 brings a more powerful processor, better display with higher resolution, and improved support for multitasking, which makes it a smoother experience for both drawing and general use. The updated S Pen is also more responsive with improved pressure sensitivity, and you get more storage options. If you’re into digital art or graphic design, the S11’s display and overall performance will give you a noticeable boost in quality and efficiency. If you’re already happy with the S10, it might not be a huge leap, but for creative work, the S11 is a solid step forward.
what's the point of having a "thread" up if it's just gonna be run by one guy shoving prompts into a replybot? what the fuck is this shit?
>/ic/ went from 0.48 posts/min to 4.31 posts/min just because this faggot spambotted his image dump folder>he wont get banned for it as usualstill dont get why this shit hasn't been pushed back to /g/ yet, it's just a troll CONSOOMER thread with no actual use, news or information
>>7722435probably an anit-wacomschizo shitting it up. sure the wacom schizo is annoying but this is even more annoying.
>>7722446thank you mr geepte, this is a very insightful reply i will now go scribble in /beg/ again
most mentally ill general in /ic/ award
>AI will take everyones jobs>AI is the futureAI is the future of making the internet into an unusable mess of pseudo-self-aware samsung galaxy adverts
instead of crying about OP being a schizo that shits up the board, you could just fix it yourselfbut nobody in this thread will because the only people who go to a tablet threads consistently over the years are nodraw permabegs and schizophrenics with an axe to grindpick up a pencil or pick up the mopthese are your two choices
>>7722678so, you? good job owning yourself
Uh...
>>7722678anon...
>>7722691Guh...
>>7722700yes
>>7722700awooooooga
>>7722700Only good post in this thread.
>>7722678anon... i think you're projecting
Is there any drawing tablets where I can go suck dicks?
>>7722744wacom unironically
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>>7722700did you draw this?
why is drawing with pen displays/tablets so awkward
>>7722832Disconnect Between Hand and Eye: When you're drawing on a tablet, you're looking at the screen but your hand is not directly on it. This creates a disconnect because you’re drawing in one place (the tablet) while your eyes are focused somewhere else (the screen). It takes some time to get used to this spatial separation.
>>7722832Lack of Physical Feedback: With traditional paper and pencil, you get tactile feedback—your hand feels the texture of the paper, and you can see the pencil's resistance as you draw. With tablets, especially smooth-glass ones, you don’t get that same kind of resistance, which can make drawing feel less natural.
>>7722832Different Posture: On a traditional canvas, you're likely sitting comfortably with your arm resting, while with tablets, you're often in a different posture—either hunched over, holding the stylus at an angle, or trying to find a comfortable position that feels “right.” These physical differences can make it feel less intuitive.
>>7722832skill issue
iPad Air 5th gen is still the best option if we want digital on the go, right? It doesn't have as many biometric tracking "features" as the newer ones? I've never bought an Apple product so I'm a little unfamiliar with them.
>>7722842give it back tyrone
>>7722842I uh, you correct! iPad Air 5th gen, it uh, still good for use on go. Not much uh, biometric like new one, but it uh, still okay for simple use. If I uh, no need extra things, it uh, good choice
best drawing tablets to draw BBC?
Can Wacom tablet, like, draw on rock too or just paper and screen?
wacom, like, help my wife with divorce stuff
>>7722844Calm down man, I don't have one yet. I'm a /g/uru and don't like all that tracking shit. I really am unfamiliar with the iOS ecosystem.
>>7722443I'm OP of the thread and I do not appreciate all this anti-Wacom shilling for Chinese products. It’s really frustrating seeing Wacom get bashed just to promote other brands.
>>7722854You sound really enthusiastic about Apple—are you getting some kind of incentive, or is this just your genuine opinion?
>>7722856stop samefagging, OP
>>7722854Come on, you were just flexing your Apple Watch rings five minutes ago. Don’t bail on your own keynote now
>>7722614/lgbt/ board
>>7722858>>7722863Is this how /ic/ is these days? I'll just come back some other time.
>>7722867buy a wacom, ignore chinese shills
>>7722878Samefagging zhang.
>>7722867>>7722878>>7722878KILL YOURSELF CHINESE SHILLS
>>7722882take your meds schizo
>>7722867consider never coming back, /g/tard
i just shat in my pants
>>7723009>consider never coming back, /g/tard
>>7722700It always has.
Just ordered a galaxy tab s7+Can anybody please recommend me some good cases to protect it?
>>7723150Kys fag
wacom ergo arm is still 600 lmao
>>7723366your mom is worth less than that
https://www.creativebloq.com/art/digital-art/the-new-xppen-ultra-16s-4k-oled-could-elevates-your-digital-art
>>7722406I mean if you have the money for it then nothing can stop you from buying it, but from value standpoint the tablet is too expensive, it only have 11 inch display, no charging block in the box, and cost you around $799 for only 256gb storage
there's literally no reason to buy wacom when xp pen exists
Thoughts on the huion inspiroy frego M? It's the one I'm currently looking at if I finish 2 more sketchbooks
on a more serious career choice, do i up to medium or large screenless? i know it technically doesnt matter but im looking for endgame.
>>7723704large is fine if you have the desk space for it, you can reduce the active area if it's too large for you.
>>7723618Surprised by it's performance, I initially bought it to use it until I could afford something better, but honestly, this is more than enough
Does anyone have a wacom movink13 and if so how is it? I've wanted to upgrade to a display tablet from my intous for a long while along with also having a portable option for digital drawing but i loathe being locked into the android or ios ecosystem bullshit. And while i'm not completely against getting an android/ipad tablet a major reason i haven't the last few years specifically cause i can't use it with my computer when not out and about. For a while now i've been thinking the movink 13 could be good as a tabletdisplay+thinlaptop placed together in a unifying case for portable drawing, albeit with some obvious compromises like being a slightly bulkier/heavier total package, likely worse battery, etc, but those are fine be me.
Any of you guys use these remotes or keypads with your drawing tablet? I've been recently upgraded everything in my workstation so figured should buy one for better worlflow.Wacom's express key feels a bit price heavy, also old without model changes.
>>7724410There are pros to cons to each. The sliders/wheels are kind of annoying to use consistently. Most are quite overpriced. Personally, I need a lot of keys, obvious buttons for easier muscle memory and good hand ergonomics, so the Razer gaming pads (Tartarus / Orbweaver / Nostromo) are the best for me. Just need an extra knob or scroll wheel or two and it would be perfect. Used ones are cheap, and often they are barely used because they only use it a couple of times.
>>7724401i think you can use mdp with your pc too
>>7723618there's no wobble and excellent pressure sensitivity iirc, but wacom remain superior in terms of IAF
Weird question, but is there like a pen display with a pen that feels more like a pencil? One of the things I like to do when I draw traditionally is to angle the pencil to get lines of varied thickness and hardness. Is there a device that replicates this, shape included?
>>7724410I used a number pad with AutoHotKey, and it was a hassle. Now I'm using a macro keyboard I bought for around $30 on AliExpress (picrel) and it works like a charm.The only limitation is the software. Photoshop is buggy as hell when it comes to keyboard shortcuts. Multiple key inputs will almost certainly trigger something you don't want. The only workaround I’ve found is changing most shortcuts to single keys (e.g. switching the Undo command from Ctrl + Z to F3)
Generally how is the used Wacom tablet buying experience? To me it seems like it’d normally be worth the extra money to buy new and have everything working but damn there’s such a discrepancy in price between the new Wacoms and the listings I see on poshmark, ebay etc. Do people tend to take care of their shit or is it worth just paying extra to avoid troubleshooting some issue created by the previous owner spilling cheeto dust all over their tablet? Any blatant red flags to look out for?
>>7725264It's easy to find barely used ones. Unwanted gifts, used only a couple of times then put away in the closet, lost the pen so they couldn't use it, used for a while but it's too hard/they lost interest, they upgraded to a bigger one, studios and school selling off big batches of them. Lots of good deals on ones missing the stylus too. The names are often misspelled too, you can get better deals on those ones too since less people see the listing. Easy 50-75% discount if you look hard enough.The surface can get scratched up but you can replace them. Sometimes the buttons break. The cables or port can break/get loose easily so watch out for that. Quick solder repair job can fix them. Older ones have good build quality, so they are never actually completely broken.
>>7725287Appreciate the response, I can definitely see why there’d be a surplus of tablets out there now but it just seemed almost too good to be true at first because the value is insane compared to buying new. Feels like highway robbery.
>>77223324 years you shitty fucking liar
So I kinda decided to search for a G tab s10+ since the Ipad's os is awful and I really dislike being tied to the appstore onlyMoving from a Huion inspiroy 1060p that just took it's last breath (6 years of service, sleep tight my prince, you've done well...)Which prices should I look up to for a good deal? is 680usd for a new 12gb ram/256gb storage ver okay?
>>7722329>Samsung finally made a successor to the S6 Lite after 5 years of just updating that.
Youre not going to need anything more than 256 gb of space unless youre a gacha addicted gambler, especially when you can just store more files on an external sd card
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Fucking cunt spam filters I swear to god.Anyone know what I mean?
>>7726409Hopefully catbox works without cunting.Herehttps://files.catbox.moe/2lwi90.mp4
>>7726331>>7726332the space is okay, I meant it more for the ramthat I can't store on an sd card
>>7726409>>7726411that's normalthat's just how apple pencil works
Why does a 5cm size increase going from the Wacom One S to the Wacom One M justify a price increase from 160 to 260 PLN?
>>7726411Works as intended, it's just the flaw of bluetooth technology.Use software stroke tapering correction.
Is the BOSTO 1060 Plus any good at $45 compared to the Wacom One S (god, what a confusing naming scheme) or is it an unreliable Chinesium scam like all the other cheap graphic tablets I can see? People have given it good reviews from what I've seen but they're all a year old at most so I have no idea if it's going to break after a short amount of time.
Are any of the new procreate brushes any good?
>>7726560Man I just wish procreate was a thing for android, I hate the idea of being nickle and dimed by clip studio paint and the other free options are kinda garbage. I don't like the OS on the Ipad nor charging the pen for it all the time either. They really just need to fix their shit.
>>7726566lol itoddlers are retarted
what are the red flags i should look out for when buying a graphic tablet that indicate I should immediately return it if they crop up
thoughts on apple pencil 3?
>>7728295>apple pencil 3The wacom pencil is better, yes you still have to replace the nibs but I replace it once in a blue moon, as for charging the battery for the apple pencil? You probably have to do it everyday or atleast once a week if very very generous. The apple pencil will be more annoying in the long term simply because you have to charge and reconnect/disconnect all the time instead of just using it when you want like wacoms pen on a movinkpad (which has an inferior but still workable spec but were just talking about the pencils)
>replying to a generic page 10 bump throwaway question
>>7726560Just started playing around with them and they're pretty great but holy shit their naming fucking sucks ass. Literally tells you nothing about the brush.
I just got a used Intuos Pro L from 2013 with a pro pen, everything for roughly 50 bucks. It's a little worn, but holy shit. Coming from a cheap Gaomon MK10 pro and an iPad Air 4, this feels so much better. You guys weren't kidding.
What's the point in pen displays? If you have to connect it to a laptop/desktop that already has a display, why not save money and get a regular screenless tablet? Seems kinda wasteful to drop hundreds just to have your existing display mirrored on another screen. Like just look up.
>>7730876This has to be bait.You can't be this retarded.
>>7726566I would kill if they made it for other systems, but I think want to stay “exclusive”
2021 HUION KAMVAS 16 any good? was thinking about that or spending a lil less for the XPPEN artist 13.3 inch
>>7730876As someone who uses a display and screenless tablet I think there are benefits to both. I ink much faster on a display tablet and I have a better color range that I use to calibrate my other monitors, and screenless tablets are better for sketching since there's less input lag and I can use it as a replacement for my mouse which feels more comfortable. I think the big draw for display tablets is that it's more like physically drawing so if you come from a traditional art background you can paint in a way that's natural to you, kinda like how graphic tablets went from digitizer pucks to a stylus because that's more intuitive. But if you're using a tablet without a screen and you're satisfied there's really no need to spend money on a display, it's just a preference that some have.
what is the cheapest visual tablet that isnt absolute garbage?I have a screenless and i hate how it isnt imprecise, you always keep having to redo your lines to the point i've just bought lots of pens and paper and started going trad.I plan buying a visual tablet in the future so i will probably have to save up for them but which ones you guys recommend?
>>7732610Cintiq 22
A while ago, I was given an iPad, but it was a horrible experience because of its closed ecosystem and the high prices of accessories. Do you know of any tablets that are good for drawing?
>>7735620for portable tech ipad is (perhaps sadly) still on top(most of) the rest run on android, and android itself aims to be a walled garden itself starting in 2026. and for the location testing they picked countries that likely rely on foss or modded .apks for a living. besides clip studio paint, ibispaint, huashijie pro and infinite painter on it's good days for painting and superdisplay and easycanvas for mirroring, i can't think of a good art app on android. which might be plenty for you but not for mesamsung gave up competing with apple when it comes to tablets, downgrading internals and externals even in their top-of-the-line products. at this point they might ditch the wacom digitizer in tab s12 series. as it is at the moment still okay for drawing, and my experiences skew towards positive, but i wish i bought an ipad instead, which i eventually did, aiming for bigger and better ones currentlywacom movinkpad and xp-pen magic drawing pad gen2 exist. though comparable to low to mid end e-waste, made by companies actually catering to artists with better drawing technology at least. iirc in japan movinkpad is beloved, and xp-pen drivers recognize the magic drawing pad gen2 so you can use it as a display tablet on a computernewer huawei hardware are amazing and so is their in house art app gopaint, but the rest of software and aftereffects of the sanctions can still be felt. they also completely ditched android, and with how hard the west sanctioned/is sanctioning huawei, i doubt there'd be good apps on harmonyos next in the west.honor, oneplus and xiaomi are waaay behind compared to aforementioned brands and are for notetaking at best
>>7735741and accessories will be a worse deal once you leave that walled garden. at least for appleslop there are good 1st and 3rd party options at various pricepoints. the rest of the crop are either stuck with expensive 1st party options or a 3rd party keyboard case(read: a magnetic faux leather folio that degrades, and degrades faster in hotter geographies, and a magnetic bluetooth keyboard with embedded battery that dies within the month of purchase). only official accessory you'd need to draw is an apple pencil gen1/gen2/pro, there are reputable accessory brands for appleslop for half the price, and you can go on aliexpress, temu or dropshitters that drop shit from the two if taxes are an issue, for even cheaper slop
>>7730271old intuos always feels better than 6 000 000 pressure level chinesium tablets of today.
I'm currently drawing on paper, but I plan to switch to a screenless wacom tablet. Wacom even the new ones as the OP implies are good tablets?And what should I be prepared for when making the switch from paper drawing to digital drawing?
>Krita can paint in HDR>but there are no real HDR display tablets for PC>but there are lots of HDR android tablets, and I already know Moonlight can be used for pen passthrough (tested with my S6 lite) and HDR (tested with my S24 phone)I don't really wanna spend $1200 on an experiment.
>>7736607My Wacom Intuos S works fineMy "One by Wacom" (which just as an aside is a retarded name when you also have something called the Wacom One) is temperamental and sometimes doesn't have enough "field" above the tablet surface to detect the pen. When it works, it's nice though, though I prefer my screened tablet.For the screenless tablets, be prepared to learn hand-eye coordination. You can do good work with them, but lines may take you a few tries compared to a screened tablet or pencil-on-paper. Protip, you can put a piece of paper on them if you want that authentic feel.
>>7737083Alright thanks!
>half of the thread is literally just a schizo bumping at page 9/10>the rest is larpers talking about tablets they don't have to third worlders who can't afford nice things
>>7731529it's okay for the price
>>7737149ipad 9 is literally worth just a couple of burger flipping
Just buy a used non display wacom pad from ebay, it will always be okay.
Am I making a mistake buying a new condition drawing tablet off of amazon? It arrived yesterday but the screen had a scratch and not sure if I should buy off of the official store after I get my refund to ensure it isn't damaged.
>>7737822>non displayhow the fuck do you niggers use this shit, i never know where my line is going
>>7737927this, i like it that my hand doesnt get in the way but it's literally impossible to do lineart or anything that requires accuracy without getting a urge to kill yourself.
an used 2013 wacom arrives at my doorstep tomorrowif it doesn't beat the socks off of my deco 01-v3 i'll find out where you live and shit in your mailbox every day for the rest of my life
>>7738101what wacom?I wouldnt buy a screen tablet unless it's a 20 incher or some shit. You wont be able to see shit cus your hand will be on the way.
ive been using a wacom 12wx for 2 weeks now so far its been a good screen but i wouldnt render colors on it
Wondering if there is any meaningful upgrades to the XPPen Aritst Pro 14 within a 600 dollar price range? Main issues being unnatural feeling pressure curves and feeling inaccurate due to parallax, even if it's not very glaring or extreme. Trying to control line weight feels suicide inducing, not sure if it's a skill issue or hardware issue. I saw that there was a Cintiq 16 on sale for 500 usd, but I am discouraged by the idea of an on paper absolute sidegrade, so i'm looking for a considerable improvement in accuracy.
>>7722399it only just begun
CTL 672 is going out of stock. It's no longer the budget drawing tablet KEK
>>7722329>Avoid:>XP-Penhaha I came into this thread just to ask what a good beginner tablet is because my current draw pad seems kinda bad and I see that my current tablet is listed on the one to avoid. Its very small dimmensions wise and I think it affects the lines Im actually trying to draw so I'm looking for something better. Based on the OP and looking at Amazon I see an Intuo 4 for 53$, would that be a good tablet to upgrade to?
>>7740799Why would you "upgrade" to an over two decade old unsupported tablet?
>>7740799I owned an intuos 4 and it wasn't the best experience, I wasn't able to do perfectly smooth lines, there was wobble even with a ruller
>>7740799>looking at Amazon>I see an Intuo 4 for 53$
i'm not the only one who thinks the new intuos pro's are redundant with the previous versions right? besides being smaller for portability there's not much changes. the drawing sensitivity is exactly the same even and it appears they switched to lower quality batteries. the slightly bigger active area didn't feel that much different on the medium at leastalso the movink13 was so close to my ideal tablet, it's just too small. i get that it's made for portability above all, but if they made a bigger/pro version i'd replace the aging cintiq pro with it. it makes me wonder if this thing is actually selling well that they'd make a higher tier model or if this is an experimental one-off.
>>7740619i think they stopped production of this a few months ago? there were rumors they were refreshing the line iirc
I got enough money for xp pen 16 artist gen 2, but now Im getting second thoughts about the size, why the hell 19 inches is twice the price
>>7741007>>7741672I don't know what I'm doing an I'm retarded. Atm I have an xp pen 6x4in and its too small and seems kinda shit. I want to upgrade to something not too fancy and I see screenless intuos are recommended by the OP so I was checking those out on amazon.
>>7741007intuos 3 still works in windows 10 (and even windows 11!)just fine, you just need to download older drivers (from official site).why does it matter if its "supported" or not?
>>774172119 is more expensive due to 4k vs the 16 Gen 2's QHD resolutionI have both and I feel it's a huge difference.
screenless fellers, do you find that you ctrl-z too much?I am considering buying one.
>>7740799The thread OP is garbage.If you're looking for a screenless tablet I'd suggest any XP PEN that mentions using X3 chip or any Huion that uses Pentech 3.0.If you want to go with a Wacom Intuos Pro I'd suggest the PTH 651 or PTH 660.
