Just got admitted into art school (photography). Is it worth it? I will major in art photography. What advantage do I have over the average normie doing art by going to art school?
Someone will force you to learn things, but most of those things can be learned for free on youtube. You will make connections, find opportunities (corpos often scout art schools for their needs), and have an adventure. If you can afford it, it'll be fun.
The advantage is mainly connections. You can meet people who will let you into various cliques and clubs and cabals, so to speak.
You will find an artist gf. This will be the start of a beautiful journey. Good luck friend
>>7725198Birdstacy?
>>7725198If you get scholarship sure. If you have to get student loans..... Egghhh. Get a degree that (You) know you will use it for job applications later
>>7725219I’m doing it online. >>7725215Most of the tutors have industry experience and worked on movie sets or in galleries. So it’s going to get me connections.
>>7725227long distance zoom call artist gf
>>7725198If it costs anything; no.
>>7725198Don't do it unless it is paid for (not debt).I promisepromisepromise you that you will deeply regret it. You will have no advantage in any way connected to earning money.But if it's paid for, fuck it, go have fun and get laid and make friends.The best photographers I know did not go to college though. I'm a trad realism painter and photography is mindlessly easy for me, but the ppl I know who are good basically justlearned the exposure triangle, bought a good mirrorless FF with some primes and then LIVED with their camera around their neck for a decade.
>>7725277Those people mog me obviously.
>>7725227nonot connections with teachersyou're supposed to make connections with other artists so when they have relations with studios, they'll invite you in
>>7725284How does that work when 90% (not hyperbole) students don't go anywhere, in all honesty?
>>7725198>What advantage do I have over the average normie doing art by going to art school?You'll be in an environment that's primed for learning, and it'll also help you feel more confident in those things you learned; as in you'll have someone confirming that you're doing things correctly or incorrectly.That said, everything that you'll learn could be learned for free, and while many feel that makes art school, or many courses in schooling pointless, they forget that many people (I suspect most) are terrible at teaching themselves.Without the consequences of missing deadlines and losing grades, or failing a course, many find it hard to motivate themselves to do the tedious things they don't like, so that they may get better at doing the things they do like....Though I'm not exactly sure what the unpalatable tedious things in photography would be, honestly? Maybe taking photos of subjects you don't care for? Maybe photo editing, if you don't like it?Anyway, so long as the cost isn't too large, and you're confident you can pay it back even with a crappy casual/part-time job, I say go for it. If the debt seems like it's so large that you'd need a 'proper' job to pay for it, avoid it - art school and their pieces of paper DO NOT guarantee any sort of work or success, and are not worth the costs they often ask for.
The US is in political turmoil, so if things don't work out, maybe you can be a dictator?
>>>/p/More guaranteed job opportunities second only to graphic design majors, seriously every single company only asks for those, you're lucky to find a single one ever ask for any other art major.. Good luck.
>>7725289>art school>usually in cities or in crowded areas>don't go anywhereman, i breezed through school and 2 community colleges and 20 years later I don't have ANY connections to insider art jobs, i'm telling you - don't make that same fucking mistake and focus on JUST the studiesyou're only wasting money by staying a nomad
>>7725289because 10% do, a lot of art success stories really are just>and then this guy i knew from back when said they needed a dude and phoned me asking if i wanted to do it.
>>7725198Honestly a waste of time, you can learn it all by yourself using youtube.If you "click" with the people you meet there it might be worth it though, for connections like people said.
>>7725957YouTube really doesn’t have the same rigour and level of expertise I’m looking for. People I’m working with will have years of experience, working on movie sets, or getting published in international photograph magazines and journals.
University degrees hold no value anymore, and everyone can do photography with their phone.Nano Banana the Google AI software will edit pictures for anyone without them needing to know anything about the craft of photography.Decline the university program.Take photos for fun after work.Get into construction.Earn a living, save money.I have a Masters degree in Concept art and worked on a published game.It was not worth it, at all. >>7726018Those jobs will vanish to AI generated content. It's not that you can't do it, it's that the economy won't allow them to pay you a liveable salary to do it.Invest $20 in a image generation model for a month and see how much you can make it vomit out.Now consider that you eventually want ~50,000 USD per year or more so you can have a house and a family.You're priced out before you send an email asking if they have any work available.You're 30 years too late to have this job.
>>7726086>Those jobs will vanish to AI generated content.I don't agree with you, but let's assume you're right for now... does that mean all the skills they'd learn in that course are useless? I don't think so.At the very minimum, they are now a valuable asset in film production and could fill many roles there, as they should be skills with composition, lighting, so on and so forth.There's also many areas where people will just outright want a real photo, and a well done one, such as for weddings and family portraits, etc.And while you say magazines will not want photographers - will the subjects that need to be photographed want a AI image of them? Will customers be happy to have an AI image instead of a real photo of the subject? Will AI images of world events be acceptable, when people expect photographs and videos of the real thing?I'm sure there are plenty of other areas where photography will still be needed, and where the skills can also be applicable, but I can't pretend that I'm putting that much thought into it.
In addition to what >>7725214 said, the value of your potential connections and networking is directly proportional to how outgoing you are. If you don't make friends easily or aren't comfortable advocating for yourself, you may as well stay home.Make sure your major is a specific practical skill rather than a broad category of art.>photography studiesSounds like you're barking up the wrong tree anyway.
>>7725198You'll learn random shit here and there that has nothing to do with photography but will somehow prove useful. A guy who learned on YouTube will know the formula linking depth of field and F-number but you'll know that if this model you're looking at puts this pink flower sideways in her hair the iridescence will make her portrait far more appealing because some art hoe you fucked at a party told you that.I'm a software engineer and I've used things I've learned drawing porn and doing acid with neo-nazis more often than those complex data structures they ask you about in the job interview.
>>7725198congrats op :)
>>7726571Thanks>>7726508Life experience is truly more important than rote learning
sorry anon photography isn't art
>>7727056It uses composition, lighting, mood, mise en scene, etc. how isn’t that art?
composition & ms en scene are the same thingmood is abstractso you say a composition with light is art?
>>7727080Define what is art.
>>7727095Art is what i put on your mother's face after a night of passionate plapjackin' sweaty love
>>7727097You’re really not funny.
no to dificultlets define what isnt
>>7727102I don't think having sex with your mother is a laughing matter. She takes my "Art" seriously.
1.photography
>>7727119ESLs making half-arsed posts isn’t art
>>7727131If photography isn’t art, why is this beautiful?
Art school is only as valuable as the connections you make homie.
>>7727227I’m planning to meet people there.
