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4TH ITERATION OF COMICS AND RANDOM ART BATTLES (C.R.A.B.) WILL PROCEED AS SCHEDULED

Round 3 - The Bucket
https://files.catbox.moe/ezect8.mp4

DESIGNATED OCs HAVE BEEN TAKEN BY THE D.O.O.M.V.A.
-THEY WILL BE PART OF A TEAM.
-COMPETE IN ARTISTIC COMBAT TRIALS.
-ACHIEVE VICTORY FOR ONE (1) REALITY-ALTERING WISH.

-All 50 slots are filled however you may enter the pit to join the bench, if someone drops out you'll be tagged in.
Is your crab up to it? Once you're on the bench you will also be eligible to vote on entries and sway the outcome.
Link to the pit: https://discFIREFIREFIREFIREFIREFIREFIREFIREord.gg/9WC7Chqm
We are in the middle of the final round. The end is NOT near because of the new extension for this round.

Timeline for the tournament: https://files.catbox.moe/cyjyh8.png
Teams and crabs: https://files.catbox.moe/bcjuh8.png
Pastebin for previous tournaments: https://pastebin.com/RPZqSs5f
Previously on Crab4 >>7716879
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>>7728732
Matchups: https://files.catbox.moe/rknevf.png
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18 days till I make my opponent into rabbit kebabs
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Second for Adel!!!
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I cant wait ti make my opponent suffer for their crimes
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>18 day extension
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>18 day extension
Let's fucking go, gentlemen!
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AHORA O NUNCA, MISFITS!!!!
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>>7728783
>namefile
It was over before it even began
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Sex with _________
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>>7728889
Me
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>>7728889
this anon >>7728892
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>>7728889
Your mouth
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>>7728889
This nigga >>7728892
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>>7728892
running a train on this anon
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I hope Zorquan wipes the floor with Speedrun
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>Submissions are open
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SCREW THIS NOISE WHERE SHAFT 2 AT?
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>>7728739
You retards have to stop giving this leech free art. I feel sorry for their opponents for getting a wall of text that was written by a middle schooler
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>CR4B - Round 3 Submissions Are Now Open!

You may know that we’ve had an extension, so in about 16 days or so by now that’ll be the final deadline for entries. But if you’re brave enough to submit your entry earlier, now’s the time to do so! Otherwise, keep working on your submissions! Good luck out there, crabs.
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>>7730763
would plow those legs
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>>7730763
I'm busting it
M4 I'M DOING IT
WAIT FOR MY ENTRY M4 YOU'LL UNDERSTAND
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>>7730734
Cool. I’m gonna give them more free art later on
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>>7730763
Now who would actually post this early when we have so much time until the voting period?
By the time the voting starts most people would forget about your entry.
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what's the biggest piece of feedback you would like to give to the tournament at this moment?
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>>7731079
To kill themselves
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>>7731079
The GM should realize that sometimes the obvious booking option is the best option and not do something different because it's "not as obvious".
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>>7731150
Which obvious options do you think were the best options?
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>>7731190
NTA but

>Kell vs Hemma
Kell is mostly pacifistic but is still victimized and defined by how he was changed by other people for their use and entertainment. Facing someone who legitimately is out to harm him with a huge ax to grind unlike his last two opponents would've been interesting and also tied more personally into what Kell is with his cyborg nature. Hemma's own character arc meanwhile needed the capstone of finally confronting his traumatic trigger and source of his bigotry that is the root cause of his own severe mental illness.

Both artists won both their rounds, would've put on a good show, and mutually even wanted to face each other to the point their hitlists featured each other as their primary choice.

And on the flipside Ellie vs Nio could have been incredibly cool via exploring Ellie's subconscious that was briefly tapped into with R1 and her mind briefly piqued by comparing Lovell to her master, it could have been cool exploring more of her internal world and what Nio would do handling this magical final dungeon boss.
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>>7731201
>>7731190
I think Hemma and Kell, as well as Leo needed different matchups
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>>7731190
For all the buildup with Atta and her poison arc pairing her against Needle feels weird and incongruent.

Needle just wants to be deranged and ignores any outcome where his opponent tries anything else with him. Atta has many characters affected by her who have an axe to grind. Should've been Needle vs HI so they could be deranged together and pit Atta vs Ignatius.
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>>7731226
>Atta vs Ignatius

What can Atta even do? The power mismatch is insane.
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>>7731229
You ask as if Atta can do anything to Needle as-is. Also it'd be funny seeing Ignatiusanon try and handle his OP character in the face of one that is totally the underdog in every metric, with no excuse to hold back given how 'offended' he is over Atta's conduct.

AttaAnon already has to divine some kind of winning line with Needle so nothing changes except it's fire instead of ice and the opponent has more of a reason to give a fuck about their fight.
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>>7731229
last crab there was Wietse (literal farm boy) vs Tredecima (wizard with world ending powers) and Wietse won. So its feasable
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>>7731229
>What can Atta even do?
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>>7731229
With decent writing any match can be done no matter the power difference. It's not easy but its not impossible.
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>>7731216
Who could Leo even face off? Some of the matches work but I don’t have a clue on who he would even work for him.
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>>7731084
later
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>>7731240
Dizzy. Caddi vs Dizzy is insultingly one-sided, pretty much anyone thrown against Caddi is guaranteed a win because all Caddi wants to do is draw bondage and turn in unfinished crap. Dizzy's way better an artist than being fed total fodder.
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> Kell vs. Ellie

God damn Kell’s entry really hit the mark. It really explored deep into Kell’s character and his comparison with Ellie, but here’s my highlight.

>ELLIE PISSED ON THE FUCKING MOON!!! Kell fucked her boyfriend, so she pissed on the earth, except she went far and beyond! SHE PISSED ON THE FUCKING MOON!!! Even Ol Debbie couldn’t say more enough.
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>>7731190

>Zehya vs. Ana
Let’s face it. We all wanted to see these two duke it out. Their past confrontations were building up to this strife. These two even had similar arcs, dealing with betrayal. Zehya had been double crossed for the past two rounds and Ana was dealing with abandoned issues, prior to C.R.A.B. Not to mention they both had it worse with Atta’s manipulation. Round 3 could have been a perfect time for these two to clash out and even talk to each other about their betrayal issues. Hopefully have them sympathize with and help each other.
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>>7731240
in no particular order:
>Clovis
>Berno
>Zehya
>Ignatius
>Gretchen
>Berry
>Mendelle
>Ana
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>>7731254
I cant see it, honestly.
I guess it makes a bit of sense cause slut vs fuckboy but that’s the closest I can get. Other than that, there’s not much substance. I can’t see this match working out
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>>7731273
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>7731240
Diesel is fine, there are some thematic equivalents.
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>>7731273
Only Mendele is close there, looks like a self report
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>>7731234
Needle isn't so aggressive
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>>7731273
>Clovis
Had his chance with an interesting clash of philosophies about danger and suffering, but Leo-anon never followed up on it and seemed to more want to avoid it. Plus skill-level gap too big.
>Berno
Had the potential with the fact both pined for Atta's affection and that could've evolved into a rivalry between the posh rich guy and the gruff metal biker, but like with Clovis, the rivalry never was delved into further as Leo-anon didn't want the smoke. Also, skill-level gap too big.
>Zehya
A case of two nobles clashing. One who wants to be like the common man, the other who only lowers their head to gods. It would have been interesting to see those two clash and there were some interactions. Sadly, like with the ones above, seemed Leo-anon just didn't want the smoke. Skill-level gap is also quite big.
>Ignatius
Seemingly the most fitting one, fire-users, fighter vs fighter, man vs god. I would also say that Ignatius had more and better interactions with other characters than Leo. Plus, again, skill-level gap.
>Gretchen
Like Zehya, a battle of nobles. Only Gretchen is much friendlier and it would probably be a more friendly contest between the two. Unfortunately, this is also a case where the skill-level difference would also be way too big.
>Berry
There was AN attempt made at a Leo x Berry relationship. Could've been interesting and played into something. Unfortunately, there is so little into it that it just wouldn't work. Plus, again, skill-level gap too big.
>Mendele
I... can't see how this match would work in any way.
>Ana
This could have been interesting, with their fire powers. Could go somewhere, but it also is a fight that kinda feels more randomly put together rather than something really consistent.

Yeah, Diesel Junky feels like a good and fair match-up for Leo.
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>>7731235
All thanks to the Indomitable Human Spirit (and Cockbending)
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>>7731396
>The first six wouldn't work because the skill gap was too big.
Leobros... did he even deserve the headliner role?
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>another thread of shitting on Leo
Post entries or get new material.
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I wanna note that I LOVED Kell's entry and Kell-anon has done a STELLAR job this tournament by delivering banger after banger! Certified starmaking performance this CRAB.

If it is not this CRAB, I do hope Kell-anon wins a CRAB tournament one day, because they deserve it for the skill and effort they show.
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>>7731437
Nigga we have posts like this >>7731273
itt and people are calling it out
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>>7731439
True, was a very solid crab this tournament.
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>>7731427
NTA

>Only because Ignatius was banned from being elected
Plus we already went through this conversation, Leoanon isn't particularly bad he simply learned the hard way and reality of being in charge of a /crab/ team.
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>Submissions are open and we're gonna kill another thread because of Leo slander.
I wonder how everyone's entries are doing so far. Mine's going pretty well.
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>>7731240
Leo VS Melody could have been good
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>>7731452
Maybe? This could work but there’s not much depth between them. They both fight, have fire, are strong. Melody may have the upper hand in strength but it probably wouldn’t work with little story substance. Melody might wanna beat him up if he thinks he can flirt his way to beat her but that’s just my assumption. I don’t know. I just know an opportunity for more character interactions was missed
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>>7731451
Watching this gif is like having sex
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>>7731190
>Nio vs Zehya
it would have been interesting to see Nio reacting to Zehya's dreams. However the current matchup is just as good
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>>7731396
>>7731427
>>7731440
This is all just people trying to dogpile on him for no reason. Leo anon is more then good enough for almost all of those suggestions, they are not as good as people make them out to be.
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>>7731602
Ahahahahahha thanks anon, made me laugh
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>>7731610
I get that he performed below expectations so far, but maybe if the DM bothered to give Leo anon suitable or good matchups he would actually be encouraged to work to his full potential, just a thought.
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>>7731676
NTA but let's be real, Leoanon had very suitable/good matchups with Kell and Head Investigator. Kell was a combination of Leoanon underperforming and Kellanon making a fantastic entry. Meanwhile both he and HIanon made great entries, only HIanon's entry was just better.
Again, Leoanon has potential, but he just needs to refine himself, practice his writing skills and just adapt himself better.
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I'm tired of Leo discourse, this shit's gay. Almost as gay as Fluxxo and Scary being pit against surprise noncrabs instead of actual contestants.
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guis what if leo... did a thing, lol amirite?
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>>7731676
>but maybe if the DM bothered to give Leo anon suitable or good matchups
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Shut the fuck up you whiny faggot.
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wacussy
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>>7731676
Git gut loser
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>>7731451
Berry deserves that and more
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>>7731683
His matchup with Kell was fine since it was the start of the tourney and there's nothing to go of off but skill comparisons and a vague idea of what their characters are like, Leoanon went too ambitious and fucked himself over
The second round he got paired with the tournament darling and lost because of course he did, HIanon's entry wasn't great, it hardly ever is but people have a bias in his favor and pitting a new headliner who already shit the bed against him is like throwing him in prison knowing he's gonna get raped
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>>7731861
Not to be that anon (and I don't want to drag this any longer, he has gotten enough flack already) but there are some factors to consider:

>R1 entry
Leo-anon shouldn't have done an animatic at the start of the tournament where animation is at most limited and blew his chances at winning, should've saved that shit for R3

>Regarding HI-anon
Hot take: I don't understand the notion that he exists as a filter for the tournament when it already filters itself by being the way it is; people tolerate and infantilize him too much, as a result he gets away with a lot of shit nobody else has the luxury to do so. His works aren't even the worst part, it's this stupid bias/favoritism (like you mentioned) where other crabs act like you're a little bitch for standing up for your OCs against his weird headcanons.

>Character likeability
This is completely subjective, but overall Leo lacks heavily in the relatability department, from the rich brat bored with his lifestyle down to the shonen protagonist design and attitude. Compare him to the HI where's a lot more interesting because of the badass cyborg design mixed with a cool yet funny personality due to his bizarre mental state and a semblance of humanity which was shown in his R2 entry.

Anyways I better not see any more whiny complaints about Leo-anon, I'm positive he has learned his lesson and we don't need to further demonize him over rookie mistakes; if anything Lovell and Needle are worse headliners.
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>>7731897
>Needle
Shut it, it's clear you don't know shit about what you are talking about.
Putting him next to Lovell is fucking retarded.
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>>7731897
can i rape you?
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>>7731933
lovelKEKS.... are we... the worst headliner?!
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>>7731952
*sexiest
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>>7731952
It's not even a question
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>>7731933
He's a bad headliner, anon, he's angry about even being among us undesirables yet does nothing as a headliner
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>>7731982
Stop making up shit
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>>7731982
You got nothing apart from your own perception and assumptions, stupid faggot
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The only unfair match so far was Bakutsu vs Fish. Being inconsistent in output was not an excuse to pit Fish-anon against someone clearly on a lower power level.
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>>7731952
More like lazy pull your weight Neetlel
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>>7732084
killwill
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>>7732044
Nah that was fucking based. Bakutsu-anon also deserved to get smacked down like that for talking mad shit and shittalking Fishimote-anon and his OC.
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>>7731396
How could I win? Only if Leon has a half-finished entry, I'd would win, mainly because I am like a russian roulette in terms of entry, only shoot for the stars once in 6 times. picrel related
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>>7732044
Fishimote was clapping from behind all the powerfags until r3, If that's not based you are just wrong.
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>>7732149
ALL HAIL THE GODSLAYER
ALL FRAUDS BEWARE
ALL HAIL FISHIMOTE
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>>7732149
Severely disappointed there wasn't a Fishimote vs Scary Movies.
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>>7732149
Fishimote should have been paired against Fluxxo
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>>7732247
They're on the same team, it couldn't be done.
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>>7732149
Day of the Hook is coming for that damn fish!
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>>7732250
Well the only other real god character is Ignatus, and we know how that goes.
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Let's do one more Round 3 teaser, before the thread get flooded with entries. Post at least one quote from your R3 entry. GO!
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>>7732361
"It's too big, it won't fit!"
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>>7732362
I'm going to fuck you, clown. And no one is gonna stop me
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>>7732361
A rubber golem is fine too
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>>7732149
The last thing Fishimote will see when he goes to Waffle-House.
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>>7731015
>Now who would actually post this early when we have so much time until the voting period?

Allow me to introduce myself, I am Atta-anon, godless yurifag and up and coming jobbing expert. Job parties, job events, anything your company might need.

Atta VS Needle:
https://imgur.com/a/FxIFDGG
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>>7732476
Atta...
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>>7731982
Youre not *entirely* off. I was pretty angry and I am a pretty bad headliner. Objectively.

The source of my anger has nothing to do with the people in crab though, mostly pissed off at myself and to a much lesser degree the DM.

I'm a bad headliner because I didn't know what the true responsibilities were to be a headliner, or why people wanted to be one when I threw my hat in the ring. I thought it would be about doing busywork, reading my teams comics and making sure they didn't have any critical flaws and giving them feedback. If that's all a headliner was, then I would be a pretty good one.

I wasnt really understanding the format when I went in. I'm used to OCT's that aren't team based, they're a duel between two people and whoever makes the most entertaining comic wins. Thats my experience with these.

Thats not quite what crab is, however. I was so angry with what happened to me in the first round, the perception that I stood no chance (i didnt) the perception that I lost any kind of growth or angle or momentum to my character because of my perception that my character was put into my opponents comic like an afterthought and that you could just ignore the round theme entirely and still win, that I could not realize that this is about the Team, as a headliner its really my job to make a Nullstars plot, or try to give the Nullstars an angle into the soul plot.

In the second round I was pissed off that I was put up against Nobody and that I was going to lose against Nobody. I dont want to make a comic for nobody. I'll literally never know if Nio even bothered to read my comic.

So going into round 3 I'm more or less just like, I realize the mistakes I've made but its too late to do anything to fix it. Even if I could beat Atta, I've done literally nothing to deserve writing the end of that character for the tournament, and Needle never got to be anything because of my inability to win and failure to understand what I needed to be focusing on.
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>>7732565
I still maintain that yours was the better R1 comic and you getting two silvers in a row is a shame.
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>>7732598
I agree on this
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This thread brings me immense joy
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>>7732565
While I understand a lot of these gripes, I think you shouldn't concern yourself on whether you "deserve" to write the end of your opponent's character or not. If your entry wins you "deserved" it by default and that's it. And a man may live dragging himself but has to die standing on his feet, so with still 30% of your character's "screentime" left there IS still enough time to make them more interesting/endearing in the final round.
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Which of the Crab Teams do you have high expectations of winning?

> I place my bets on Xenomania, but Freakhouse Funshow and The Misfits has the potential of winning, too.
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>>7732904
I honestly give Misfits the biggest chance of winning this. Xenomania seems to be running out of steam, while I am unsure if Freakhouse would be able to win the majority of their matches.
I'd say for Misfits, their biggest thing to worry for is if Mendy can lock in against Houndclops.
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https://www.newgrounds.com/art/view/emperorbismark/art-fight-comic-3

Ash VS Henry was posted as well
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>>7732904
>>7732913
>Mendy-anon has a chance at winning crab a third time
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>>7732922
>there is a high fucking chance Mendy-anon of all contestants could break the record of most CRAB wins... again
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>>7732943
>>7732922
HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
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>>7732913
HOUNDCLOPS I GIVE MYSELF TO YOU, BUT DEFEAT MENDI
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>>7732950
>>7732962
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>>7732904
The decisive match is actually Nio VS Hemma. If Hemma wins, Xenomania takes it. If Nio wins, Freakhouse (yes, Freakhouse, not Misfits) wins the tournament.
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>>7733018
NTA
How?
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>>7733028
I will not elaborate.
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>>7732361
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>>7733767
Gross
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>>7732361
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>>7732361
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Wasn't the deadline now? Where are the entries?
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>>7734341
E-E-Extensionnnnn
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>>7734341
Almost everyone took the extension-pill and then decided to just procrastin- I mean refine their entries with the extra time allotted.
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Has Kell-anon considered becoming a headliner? They seem to be always early in the past rounds and has put a lot of skill in their entries. Just curious.
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>>7734433
I remember Kell anon didn't want to.
Too much pressure or something.
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>>7734433
Aaaaooooouuuuuuuuuaaaaaaaaaaa
Kell put your warmup cyber-nutsack on my bio-eyes. I'm so, so lonelyyyyyyy....
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G is such a faggot.
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>>7734524
I will rape you, namedropper faggot
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>>7734485
Yep, we got the winner.
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>>7734485
>Louis dying
Janny got his revenge.
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>>7734485
I laughed at the reveal of his new form lmao
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>>7734933
Is this a dead kid?
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that new fucked up thing
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>>7734933
If you were to tell me that this is Dea-anons house. I’d believe you
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>>7734933
Is anyone gonna tell D.O.O.M.V.A about the red paint?
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>Heads will roll.
https://youtu.be/MxnD6VNrvoQ?si=L4_en_gMDAk1X7Na
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Where are all the Round 2 votes? Newgrounds and the prior threads are really lacking.
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>>7735721
>Round 2 results were never posted in the threads.
Sorry about that Anon! The DM is being lazy.
R2 Results: https://files.catbox.moe/rm58ou.png
Current state of Teams: https://files.catbox.moe/dyfjvz.png
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>>7735729
I wanted vote reasons, not tallies.
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>>7735784
Oh, you can check those in the previous threads. This time people used links to either catbox or pastebin.
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Give me a request.
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>>7736567
giggles exploding
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>>7736567
Giggles and Dea exploding
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>>7736572
anon exploding
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>>7736567
Time Warrior and Berno
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I wanna leave but because the bench has been thrown fully into the tournament, I can't. And I don't wanna screw my team, so that sucks.
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>>7736576
kissing
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>>7736567
Lesbians
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>>7736572
seconding
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>>7736582
>>7736567
atta domming zehya
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>>7736588
>>7736567
Zehya or Melody giving the other a footjob
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>>7736567
Berry being happy
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>>7736634
seconding
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>>7736619
>>7736621
one of these. Which relationship does Zehya deserve?
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>>7736722
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>>7736784
Poison + better sex
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>>7736792
Doubt that, Mel's a rabbit, she just needs to get going.
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>>7736567
Naked Ana
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>>7736818
I know that’s you, Dea-anon
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>>7736819
funnily enough that wasn't me, I just requested giggles exploding and timey and berno kissing
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>>7736795
It’s also been confirmed that Mel can dom Zehya. So she better prepare for some intense rabbit girl sex
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>>7736582
Berno dominating TW
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>>7736840
Everyone can dom Zehya.
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>>7736567
Shirley
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>>7736567
Mendi x Berno hardcore gayporn
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>>7736795
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>>7737235
Fucking based
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>>7736818
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>>7736818
I’d draw it but I dont wanna give Dea anon that satisfaction
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How do tards like Dae or Baku find their way to this server? Don't you need a friends from the inside to recommend this place? Who in the server are actually friends with these 2.
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>>7737426
Baku anon found their way in crab cause of Newgrounds. Not sure about dea anon. I never bothered to ask or learn about they got it.
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>>7737435
check the d*scord link
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>>7737296
Dayum Ana looks like THAT???
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>>7737426
>Don't you need a friends from the inside to recommend this place?
Not really, we've promoted the place in the 4chan and Newgrounds threads and people can join by clicking the /crab/ pit link.
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>>7737426
Unpopular opinion
There needs to be a skill requirement to enter.
No more Adels or similar.
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>>7737463
Then 75% of the tournament would be gone
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>>7737463
>yeah make this place elitist and more competitive, that's what this tournament needs
no
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>>7737482
Good
>>7737485
Make it more competitive
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>>7737463
maybe just get rid of novellas
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>>7737490
I mean, I don't disagree (except for the competitive part), it's just that Adel-anon isn't a good comparison
There are worse examples
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>>7737463
>>7737490
unpopular because it's a gay and retarded take, faggot
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>>7737498
Skill issue. Your only arguments are crying insults like a faggot because you are scared of being filtered.
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>>7737491
This. Get rid of novellas.
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>>7737493
>There are worse examples
True, but that's the bottom of the barrel in terms of skill at least.
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>>7737507
no retard, because crab wasn't meant to be the regular oct. If quality is the only thing you care about, leave or rope yourself
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You know, it is quite funny how often the "higher-skilled" artists are the ones to demand a "higher skill requirement to enter", especially when they lose to "lesser-skilled artists" who just manage to write better than them.
It's also funny it is often newfags who have this opinion. As if they don't like their egos being hurt over losing to an "inferior" artist.
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>>7737463
>>7737426
>Baaaaaah crab isn't my super secret club DEDEDE is a le monator
You twats aren't good enough to have that kind of gatekeeping.
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>>7737519
>leave or rope yourself
Just by reading that I know you will never make anything worth reading
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>>7737570
when did I ever mention that it would be? Just go pick up the rope, ties a noose and set yourself loose, faggot
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>>7737507
NTA, but you really aren't that much better.
Crab doesn't really have the prestige in order to be competitive and lacksghe rigidity to really be filtering. Even though we have a lot of heavy hitters, the rules and conduct aren't professionally adhered well enough to warrant this as anything more than some fun practice ring for various artists. Then there's the issue that even if you did want to enforce some kind of skill level requirement, who's going to make that line, and where is it? After Adel gets kicked, do you purse the lightweights and just auto-reject people like Jun-ho anon, even though she's been here for years, or someone like Lovell-anon who's quality has been lacking even though we KNOW they can draw? If you don't kick Lovell out under that precedent, then how is that fair to let certain people post actual scribbles well below their capability, but turn away artists that are trying to get better? There's no clear way to define those cases, and nobody wants to turn this tournament into that kind of pompous snobfest

Personally, I think there should be something similar to an ELO system, except with medals. There are enough regulars where some people have developed a track record. If matchup quality really becomes an issue, then something like that would give a more objective figure behind some of the pairings.

>>7737570
>Getting offended at being told to off yourself
Why are you on 4chan, faggot?
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>>7737528
I think art has ridiculous diminishing returns in this format so getting too caught up on the art is a detriment to the point of a comic, which is telling a story with a limited amount of time.

The writing power of the match up should be a pretty important factor in deciding who fights who as clearly its the most important attribute you can have for your comic as long as the art is roughly equal.

If i had to take a devils advocate approach to what youre referring to its less about the artist being less skilled or ego and it being more about not receiving something of equal quality back as a reward for your work than losing the match. Like if i were ever against a little babby artist or allah forbid a dedicated writer, I would take it easy visually or make a novella myself because I'm not going to get anything but a chuck e cheese token and refrigerator scribble for winning or losing regardless.

Art skill has to be roughly equal for me to feel motivated to spend my time on a two week comic commission for them, writing only matters if you care about actually winning.
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>>7737675
What I want is to not let in people that don't even draw. You can have low level of skill but theres a point where its just retarded. And I don't get why Lovell gets hyped up so much when its clear they shouldn't have participated in the first place.
>Getting offended
No. Just watching a grown ass man react to something they don't like.
>Leave or kys!!
Just pathetic.
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>>7737491
Totally agree, novellas are great for side stories, but they dont cut it for entries themselves. But then it would be a limiter on how random the entry can be.
We've had mixtapes before too.
>>7737684
>>7737675
True
>>7737832
I think you are too harsh with your ideas of just not letting in people directly.
The ELO system could be implemented and we are here to improve at the end of the day.
Though it's also true that there are some people in here that would complain about not getting the matchups they wanted or something related to it. (Like always)

BUT thinking about it more, there's no need to change the current system. It just works.
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>>7737832
>And I don't get why Lovell gets hyped up so much when its clear they shouldn't have participated in the first place.
Lovell's artist is a repeat from prior tournaments, and had a good quality output (pic related). The reason I and probably a lot of other people are disappointed in them is that this year is a noticeable downgrade from their prior entries, but nobody could have known that going into this year. Such a call to step back would have been Lovell-anon's to make, rather than the tournament's "staff" just imposing some kind of minimum effort threshold (which in itself would be a retarded idea. How would they know what's happening in each contestant's lives to the point where they COULD fairly judge their output as a lack of effort verses, say, a temporary split priority from IRL shit?).
This whole judgment of "quality" is THE POINT of voting, which in itself proves how retarded and inconsistent the idea of gatekeeping is because of the inconsistent reasons people have been giving for votes!

>Just pathetic.
You're the one bitching because, actually, I don't know why. Why does Adel being here annoy you? They're not doing anything wrong. They're not being an asshat to anyone or starting drama. They're not stealing a character or having someone else make their entry. They're just a low-skill artist, which isn't so egregiously ban-worthy. If they were your opponent, I would just shut up and take the W if you're so confident, and if they're not then just shut up and don't vote for them.
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Stop trying to kill this thread with your petty complaints about certain participants, why is Adel-anon even catching strays? It's not like he/she has done anything wrong.

HOWEVER I'm very opposed to novellas and would advocate for their removal if possible - But you can only dream so much, and kicking Adel as a result for such would set a bad precedent.

I'd concede that Lovell has been pretty lackluster though, but also you got to admit that cr4b has been the second most tedious tournament next to crab 3; still not an excuse to disrespect your opponentes like Lovell did.
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>>7737890
>been pretty lackluster
Heh
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>>7737890
Adel can draw like the rest.
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>>7737890
Adel is the odd one out. They are novella-man, and people seem to think novellas are low effort. It's not that they're annoying or abrasive or a bad person.

I do wonder why you guys debate stuff here instead of in the server though, I know for a FACT that random anons do not give a shit about this, so just speak up in the server if you feel strongly, wanting to get rid of novellas isn't even a hot take.

As for me I think its pretty funny that the specialist writer isnt even good at writing, that really caught me off guard when i read their r1.
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>>7737463
that's an unpopular opinion all right
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Actually wait a minute what the fuck does it matter how skilled people are, you're not going to be pitted against a lower/higher skilled artist anyways.
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this argueing is gay, where is lesben art?
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>>7738062
Factous
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Here's another unpopular opinion for you guys.

C.R.A.B should happen every three years instead of annually.

There are potentially artists here who would want to skip next year to focus on bigger things, especially the organizers. This might risk a number of crabs and quality, declining. Not to mention the few months the tournament can lasted. This feels more like the olympics, than just a tournament.

The extended years can also give the organizers time to plan more for next C.R.A.B to ensure everything is up to code and A.Q.A.P (As Quality As Possible). Even plan some new things to add and experiment for the coming C.R.A.Bs.
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>>7738098
>There are potentially artists here who would want to skip next year to focus on bigger things
they can, FOMO is a pussy bitch brain disease and should not be taken into consideration
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>>7738098
>C.R.A.B should happen every three years instead of annually.
I honestly say 2 years rather than 3.
It is clear people do love CRAB and enjoy it and are excited for it each year, but there is a problem that a lot of CRABs have a lot of other artistic projects to work on.
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>>7738098
3 years is too long, 1-2 is the most preferable. Hell there can be a rotation thing where one year Crab will take in the summer (June-September), and another where it takes place in the winter/autumn. (October-January)

I think the problem is the off-seasons where there's a secret incentive to keep on crabbing even after the tournament is over.
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>crab every 1-2 years
That’s retarded. And anyone who agrees with it is also a retard and doing it to stir commotion with others
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>>7738116
You say it here cause you a coward ahahahahaha
And will also be ignored AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
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I like turtles.
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>>7738117
Buddy, this opinion was thrown into the thread in the first place.
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>>7738098
>here are potentially artists here who would want to skip next year to focus on bigger things, especially the organizer
>especially the organizer
This is evidence that this post was made by the Gamemaster and self-admitted he is burned out and tired. This proves he is unfit to be GM and needs to retire. But we know his ego won't let him do that.
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>>7738170
But who to replace him? No one seems too interested.
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>>7738211
>No one seems too interested.

I hear Fluxxo-anon salivating.
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>>7738211
I can hear Z-anon getting stoked as well
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>>7738211
We'll just have another election, simple as. The ones who want to, will stand up.
>>7738258
>Z-anon
Please no. We now know what crackpot idea he has for this tourney.
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>>7738170
Speaking out of your ass again?
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>>7738260
which Z? the latina onahole or the clown guy?
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>>7738275
No jackass, he made it even clear out in the fucking server and is also the biggest person championing for a bi-annual tournament. If DOOMVA can't cut it, he should retire. But no, he clearly likes playing boss and wants to keep doing it. Once again changing stuff in the tournament to make things better for just himself.
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I am THE weakest artist in crab
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>>7738350
No you aren't, I am.
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>>7738354
No, I am
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>>7738350
I am the weakest writer.
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>>7738350
I am the one who doesn’t knock
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Sex with Ana
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>>7738476
Don't we all, Dea-anon.
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>>7738350
I'm truly the weakest crab artist of this tournament. I'll demonstrate the power of being weakest to you!
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>>7738499
Delivering half-baked WIPs doesn't count as weak, Lovell-anon. It just means you're slacking. Heh... slacking.
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>>7738476
Go goon somewhere else dea anon
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CRAB woild of been saved if I hadnt gotten kicked, I truly am a god amung men
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What is your supermentalillnesspower that boosts your performance in crab?
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>>7738583
caffeine from pepsi
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>>7738583
Milk
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>>7738583
Milk
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>>7738476
>>7738495
I agree, Don't we all?

But for me? It's Shirley
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>>7738709
seconding
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>>7738709
Ash, Ana, Ivy
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>>7737890
>pretty lackluster
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Crab has 2 options, absolutely no in between:

>Cut down on the pressure
>Make it a bi-annual event
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>>7739098
>pressure
Only really exists for people who want to win the tournament and put their 110% into it. Worse for headliners since they feel like they have to perform well as the leader of their team and to set an example.

This is a culture thing for the tourney and not anything the GM can feasibly cut back on.

>bi-annual
No this is retarded, annual is fine.
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>>7739098
How about
>Stop taking it so seriously
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Sisters.

I'm posting this to bump, every day I pray I will see more entries.
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>>7739356
sex
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>>7739423
not worth it
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>>7739356
On a scale of 1 to 10, how likely would Asha wanna kill her sister, if she learned what she'd been doing, at C.R.A.B 4?
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>>7739606
0. Zero. Nada.

Arguably if I had taken Asha seriously during CRAB 1 she would have been far more destructive than her big sister (if she truly wanted to win). She loves and admires her sister and generally believes she is always right (though there is a huge deal of miscommunication between what Atta wanted for Asha and what Asha carved in her own soul from her teachings).
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>>7739630
Though I am maybe exaggerating, but my point is that despite her actions, Atta wants the best for everyone.

Asha does not care.
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>>7738583
eating like a troglodite
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>>7738583
chocolate milk
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If you post your comics now, you'll give people here more time to read them, more than one time even.
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>>7740163
ah shut your fanny
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If you dont post your entry NOW, you are gay
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If you don't post your entry now, you're kind of cool
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Link to my entry. Fuck this took me a lot of effort so I better win.

imgur.com/a/h545urfgt
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>>7740505
DON'T CLICK, IT HAS VIRUS
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>>7740505
This is poop
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>>7740505
Like did you just fuck up or something?
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>>7740505
what's the in the link, anon?
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>>7740505
It's just a broken imgur link
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>>7740570
>what's the in the link, anon?
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Spoilers
https://litter.catbox.moe/xxvfuecv0375xgv2.webm
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If people wanna ban novellas, then I’ll just improve my art for next year and work on making comics. Simple as. No need to make a fuss about it or anything!
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>>7740625
It’s probably dea-anon since he makes it obvious that he doesn’t like you.
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>>7740625
You have the right spirit. I am pro banning novels but don't want to see you go - I want to see you get better at art through Crab.
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Admiral Pizza in Crab 4 - The Ultimate battle: For Gameboy color. Jun Ho and Scarlet Fight Admiral Pizza (who is a mermaid) So they can kill and eat him to gain dark magic power. Who will win?

https://admiralpizza.itch.io/admiralpizzagameboy
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>>7741560
This is garbage
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>>7741687
So hateful...
I think you might be rotten, anon.
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>>7741560
Hoping, no - PRAYING - that Giggles rapes your ass and kills that dumb ugly raggedy steel wool bitch.
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>>7741560
I can't wait to see this in your entry. I hope this is part of it and that you're not wasting time on a unrelated vore pic cause you have suspicious fascination with a child clown among other child crabs
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>Deadline in 5 days
Can we get another extension? If we do I'll cum.
How are my niggas itt doing?
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>>7741992
we ballin rn
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>>7741992
If we get like 2 or 3 days, I'd cum on the spot
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Freaky frog before I murder my opponent
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>>7742081
Freaky sweet
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>>7741992
I NEED TO KILL MYSELF
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>>7741992
Hey, doomva. Can we get like 3 more days? No more after that
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>>7742163
you can't be for real
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>>7742163
Kek, it's over for ya.
I'm posting tomorrow and dancing in your grave.
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>https://www.newgrounds.com/art/view/bobberatt/cr4b-round-3-hemma-vs-nio
>https://www.newgrounds.com/art/view/ardihel/crab-4-round-3-atta-vs-needle-part-1

Nio would have made a great therapist, if she not so eerie.
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>>7741992
I wouldn't mind another extension, but I have a plan B if not.
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>>7741560
Stop. You know nothing. You have gather 0 interest. No CRAB has ever left a round thinking about you. You were lucky to be a cracked-out retard "buttmonkey" type in an era where you hid in plain sight coasting on others' success. Couldn't get any love now, won't get any in the future.
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>>7743064
I would like one more day. If not, fuck it
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>>7741560
I genuinely wonder if any of the crabs actually do like you
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You will watch Ana [spoiler]get happily married at the end of Round 3[/spoiler]
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>>7743165
Ana was cucked once, she can be cucked again
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>>7743165
>spoiler
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>>7743173
how was I supposed to know Red boards won't let you spoiler?
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spoiler for non-canon comic
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>>7743179
Leo ass spotted
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>>7743165
>spoiler
AND NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEW KWAB OF THE DAY
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>>7743183
>Eat my shorts
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>>7743198
Melody should just step on Ana. She might enjoy it
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More freak frog
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>>7743476
Not if dea-anon has something to do about it
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>>7743495
This radiates Chris chan energy with "I'm gonna defend my crush against the person I don't like"
Also, great use of your time, Dea anon. Glad to know you have time to shit post and not do your entry
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>>7743504
you're commenting on urself or what
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>>7743485
Someone get this nigger frog out of here
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>>7743504
You are getting more annoying than Dea-anon himself
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>>7743595
unironically good psyop technique, make hating a person overdone so that it becomes taboo, effectively giving them protection without direct intervention, >>7743504 i hope you are listening because you are making him look better everytime you do this...unless it is your intention...
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>>7741004
fukken epic
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>>7741992
please no extension so this guy does not cum it is not very sanitary
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>>7737832
>And I don't get why Lovell gets hyped up so much when its clear they shouldn't have participated in the first place.
Me neither. But thanks to you I will at least now have further motivation to finish this as fast as I feasibly can.
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>>7743726
My nigga is back in the saddle.
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>>7743726
Husbando <3
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>>7743505
>>7743595
>>7743609
Dea-anon please stop you're a creep, we don't have sympathy for you.
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>>7743764
Nigger this doesn't help your case at all.
Ignore the dude and you would do much better of a job at doing something rather than being more fucking stupid than what you already are.
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>>7743764
I don't like Dea anon, but the way you type makes me hate you even more.
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ENOUGH OF THIS RABBLE
In this thread, we grind for aura.
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>>7743810
I luv Ana and Illwill kyaaaaaaa!!!!!!! >w<
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>>7737890
i will finish the other entries after this tourney
pinkie promise
irl situation has been pretty fucky
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Penis
That is all
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>>7743860
cock
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>>7743860
dick
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>>7743799
>>7743802
It's clear you fucking faggots never actually interacted with him, even minimally, to know how much of a fucking faggot with him. Dea-anon is tolerable, until you actually have to interact with him long enough. How about you actually try before you white knight for that Fr*d-tier faggot.
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>>7743995
Penis
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Crab has ever left a person overdone so this guy does not care eating like a troglodite chocolate milk if people wanna kill her teachings though there is that despite her sister if we get like 2 options absolutely no crab has been pretty fucky penis that it becomes taboo effectively giving them more than what you have suspicious fascination with Im gonna defend.
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>>7744082
Did a bot break?
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>>7744086
>mentions chocolate milk
Hold on. This guy may be onto something
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>>7743504
That face in the background isn't even Dae-anon's artstyle. If they're Chris Chan, you're A-Log, faggot.

>>7743182
Nah, that ass is like CC. Leo's ass is like ||
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>>7744128
Nah, Leo got a butt lift. It's bigger now
Look at his recent entries and art work of him
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>>7744148
He's stuffing his pants, but from behind.
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lovell preparing to give the sloppiest of bjs
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>>7744170
Absolutely devastated
But unless I see a pic of him from behind with no pants, I will not believe this
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>>7744185
She is hot so I forgive her.
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>>7744185
Lovell and Time Warrior instant loss 2koma
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>>7744226
Lovell amazon riding a defeated TW
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What if instead of fighting. Lovell and TW just made sweet love in front of everyone?
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>>7744253
Every single match should end like that.
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>>7744253
Somebody draw this ASAP
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God another thread dead because of too much drama. Don't y'all have entries to finish?
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>>7744297
Shut up. We were just talking about matches ending with sweet love
Either post your crab and opponent doing it or get out
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>>7744304
>Clovis vs Berry ending in sweat love
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Its so over
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>>7744253
KINO
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>>7744253
>>7744255
Kill your neighbors, your family and then yourself.
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>>7744329
no u
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>>7744329
What if I didn't do that and we fought.
And it ends with us passionately making sweet love on the lawn?
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>>7744255
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>>7744402
See? They have the right idea
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>>7744255
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Hey so what if I dont wanna kiss my opponent...
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>>7744512
Then you'd tell them that you're not interested and if they don't understand, you politely leave
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>>7744512
then your a faggot
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>>7744562
You kiss Dea then!
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>>7744567
I probably might kiss her if she was a robot again. But like a peck on the cheek. Like when you're kissing your grandma
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>>7744572
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>>7744613
kek
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>>7744613
>you just can't wait for me to DIE can't you?!
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>>7744703
>They're trying to give you a kiss!
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Zehya vs Shirley - The Palace of Illusions

https://cubari.moe/read/imgur/uiJKIzd/1/1/
https://imgur.com/a/uiJKIzd
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Test
https://imgur.com/uhGekyw

>>7744771
Nicely done.
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>>7744493
I love the lack of passion in Jugglejack's face, just an unimpressed acceptance like you offered her some tea
Actual horny lesbian vs opportunistic prison dyke
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Lovell is the scariest gal I know.
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>>7744755
>A KISS??
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So with this years CRAB coming to a close, which of the CRABs do you think has main protagonist energy?

> My choice is Clovis, given the numerous lore and narrative Clovis-anon gave to the tournament and the interactions Clovis made with the others. Berry fits the bill too, but I see her as a secondary protagonist.
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>>7745413
>YEAH!!!
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>>7745442
Hemma. Big underdog that proves himself and others on his worth.
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>>7745442
Will better be decided once we know who wins. But candidates could be Clovis, Berry, Melody, Zehya, Hemma, Berno.
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>>7745458
Agreed.
And I have the same choices too. I'm also adding TW too since he's really interesting
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>>7745446
>A kiss...
>I remember when I kissed my opponent in the bucket.
>A sweet sweet kiss...
>I ALWAYS HATED IT!!!
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>>7745442
Clovis or Atta.
>Character arc successfully carried out
>Tons of side content
>Several entries that have nothing to do with them pivot to revolve around something they did.
The only thing stopping me from definitively saying that Clovis was it was because he served as an antagonist in too many entries. Atta did too, but she's not a direct foil to any of the protagonists of said entries, she's a flawed protagonist of a tragedy.
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>>7745410
BITCH ASS NIGGA
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The dogs are in the enclosed pool area...
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its guh and im not done. not asking for an extension ill do my best to get it done eventually
this is my entry for now
bye bye
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>>7746448
>the dogs in question
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Finally done https://imgur.com/a/lLGcA2w
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>>7746495
>extension this extension that
Don't worry too much about it. I'm told that this is all for fun anyway.
ickickickickick
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https://rondoofblood.itch.io/adels-sin-crab4-round-3-adel-vs-axppos

Adel vs. Ax’ppos!

The password is “boulder” , and the game MUST be played on fullscreen!

Extra content will be added to the game post-CRAB4. Plenty of it was going to be added to the game to make it much bigger, but unfortunately technology despises me and corrupted both my latest game file AND its backup, so I won’t have time to add back the content. Bill Gates is a cruel, retarded faggot…but for now, please enjoy my game!!
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Where are the entries? Hardly anyone posted anything.
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>>7747010
Shush
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>>7747010
retard this is page 10, no one gonna post here
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I don't think they're all gonna be done by the deadline.
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It's been fun. Thanks Roomba for letting me in, to my team for the patience and the nice things. And to anyone that has shared interest in my work and kind words to me or others in this tournament.
This a CYOA (choose your own adventure). Follow the links in the description to choose your path.
https://www.newgrounds.com/art/view/raragimaru/choose-your-destiny

Some of the characters express controversial opinions in this comic, but THEY ARE NOT MY OWN.
I tried to keep this as safe as possible but... I need my motivation.
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>>7747275
KINO KINO KINO KINO KINO



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