James Cameron (director of Titanic, Terminator, Avatar, and Aliens 2) is a fantastic illustrator. Who are some other people with drawing skills that most people don't know about?
>>7737072Terry Crews (big muscle man actor) is actually a pretty good artist
>>7737072lmaooo this motherfucker makes movies, invented the fusion camera system, went to the deepest part of the ocean to get the record and also draws
>>7737276This looks like shit
>>7737276pure sowl
>>7737276Looks horrible
he stole most of his ideas, so he clearly isnt a story guy. even visuals and shot setups are straight up just copied in terminator. i mean, he steals well evidently, but its not that impressive. thats why some of his newer produced movies suck ass, cant steal much anymore when youre a big target and liable
>>7737072>Who are some other people with drawing skills that most people don't know about?A lot of V-tubers can draw for some reason, like Marine, Ui, Ina and Mori.There's also a bunch of illustrators turned V-tuber but those are just Light Novel guys that quit their dying industry like Ixy.
>>7737276He mogs everyone here lmao.>>7737281>>7737291PYW
>>7737308Why do begs have to lie and cope to make themselves not go insane with frustration?
>>7737499terminator, his career defining movie is ripped off not just premise and story wise but also visually from the the outer limit episodes written by harlan ellison. just watch the episodes and you can tell instantly why they settled out of court and why harlan got a credit in the end. and dont tell me titanic or avatar are original works. on that topic, Aliens is a boring action movie that just took the first ones script and made it not scary. James Cameron is a certified hack.
>>7738013Whoa, I hope you've got heat-resistant gloves that are rated for carrying around a take that hot
>>7737276Damn very cool, not a fan of this style but I respect this nigga he's awesome
>>7737322The light novel industry is dying?
>>7737308James Cameron and Ridley scott are the biggest hacks in the industry imoBut I respect the fact that this guy is an illustrator, pretty cool that obviously helps
>>7737322That's too easy. Name vtubers who draw but not anime. I vaguely remember one who does bird illustrations or whatever
>>7738102>no argument>r/bazinga tier zinger responsejust take the L
>>7737499>>7738013>>7738102>NTAIt's well known that Cameron is a hack, his rise to stardom is built on plagiarism. He's a truck driver that became the biggest money printer in the movie business by ripping-off obscure writers that only sci-fi nerds know about like the one that the other anon mentioned.His story formula is to plagiarize and, or dumb down other people ideas and put a fuckton of VFX on top of it so the general audience eat it up, pretty colors, explosions and "romance" make them normies feel good.I do admire James Cameron, his career and life are inspirational, but I'm not gonna pretend that he's good at his job.
>>7738306The Light Novel industry shrunk to half its size from 2013 to 2023, so it's dying just like Visual Novels.Manga and Anime grew exponentially in the same period, and they keep growing which is why both industries are facing shortages of manpower, at least that's what Kadokawa says.My sources are Japanese websites and blogs so maybe that's why a lot of weebs don't know about this stuff yet.
>>7738377So why are LNs shrinking?
>>7738357>>7738377a lot of japanese people can't read kanji btwmanga has furigana on everything, which explains a lot
>>7738686not him, but i've heard japs talk about how amateur writing in general is dying and nobody writes on the internet like they used to because the industry scoops up any promising writer the second they find him, so maybe it's related>>7738693this is also true, they all walk around with little flip electronic dictionaries with special keys for constituent radicals and keep looking up kanji whenever they're reading anything tougher than a cereal box>t. in asian studies wing of my university
>>7737279It's amazing what one can do if they're the rare combination of obscenely rich and not retarded.
>>7738686It's not just one reason.>Declining birthrates>New breakout hits are extremely rare>Most LN big hits are from early 2010s>Readers tastes are changing>Isekai is finally near expiration date>New LN Writers are out of touch >Tiktok generation (Japan loves Tiktok)>Shorter attention span (Tiktok & Shorts)>Novels in general are on a decline>Teen boys don't read much (Global)>Teens prefer manga, anime, webtoons>Boys are visual so novels are a hard sell>Girls prefer text but LN are aimed at boisI could go on but I'd rather spare you the boring details, you have a gist now.
>>7738845He wasn't born rich. He was literally a truck driver to make ends meet.
>>7738847How are the new ones out of touch, exactly?
>>7738849>truck driver in the 70s>to make ends meet
>>7738856He only did that part-time so he could focus on professional illustration (film posters and such), researching film technology at the library, and writing screenplays.
>>7737324the fact he needed like a proper writing desk and a big ass piece of paper kinda takes away from it
>>7738867Who said he needed it?
>>7738861>he was so poor he literally had to work part time for $30 an hour boo hoolol
>>7738853>How are the new ones out of touch, exactly?There's less new readers and less new writers, specially young writers, so you end up with millenials and older that have no idea what tiktok boys like to read.That's a global problem, but it's specially bad in Japan, and it's one of the reasons why so many boomers have no idea why slop like Solo Leveling & Demon Slayer are so popular with Gen Z & Alpha.If you ask them about their theories, their knee jerk answer is to say "sakuga" or art quality and they're not entirely wrong, but it's not the only reason, you have to do a lot of research beyond the surface to be able to understand why they're such big hits with that demo despite their shallow storytelling, 1D characterization, cliche tropes, etc.
>>7738872because they're really faggy
>>7737072The Burne Hogarth style is well executed but what the fuck is that pose lol
>>7738872What do you think the reason actually is? I know there's not a whole lot going on upstairs with the young folk, but they must have a reason for liking those things.
>>7739590Because it's a fantasy of leaving a shit world where you have no agency. It's the fantasy of being the kind of person you knew you could be if you really had to opportunity. Young people used to have an escape plan for the times when the elderly in society held too strongly to power and culture stagnanted. You could say "fuck this shit" join a wagon train west, sail a ship to uncharted waters, trek over those distant mountains and start a new society that didn't fucking suck. GenZ and Alpha are the first generation to have nowhere to run. Even millennials had the computers and the internet until they let that get controlled. Kids have no hope of being anything other than the care tenders to a dying world they never had any say in. What is there other than escapism?
>>7739590It's a multifaceted issue, but just know that it's not just sakuga, if you give animation on par with Solo Leveling to any other manhwa, they won't be as popular.Even webtoons by the same art studio like ORV aren't nearly as popular despite a way better story, characters and art on par with it for obvious reasons.ORV anime won't be as popular either, because unlike Slop Leveling, it's aimed at a more broad audience, it doesn't speak to young men like SL.I'm pretty sure that ORV is far more popular with women, specially fujoshis, than with young men despite being an action manhwa aimed at them...I'm not really talking about the real answers because it would be really long but if it helps, it's something to do with why democrats lost young men forever.>>7739608This anon is tripping but his answer is valid.>Peace out
>>7739654Okay, thank you, that makes a lot of sense. I feel more sympathetic to zoomers knowing their situation.
>>7737281>>7737291He's a better artist than at least 90% of the population.
>>7741516Try 99.9%.
>>7742430>>7741516gen pop? maybe. as art goes, its just copy pasting faces onto a mountain. he didnt even try to make it look like legit carvings, but just drawings in a mountain side. have you looked at mount rushmore even once? but hey, he isnt "shit" as the other anon said, just not quite there yet.
>>7742665Okay I see what you mean.
>>7737072It makes sense. When you watch the first two Terminator movies, it feels like you're watching a comic book in live action. You can imagine the scenes as illustrations and panels.
>>7737322>There's also a bunch of illustrators turned V-tuber but those are just Light Novel guys that quit their dying industry like Ixy.>dying industryWhat do you mean it's dying? Is it AI's fault?
>>7739590>I know there's not a whole lot going on upstairs with the young folkYour parent's generation said the exact same thing and you knew it was ignorant bullshit then, yet here you are, engaging in the exact same folly. If lead in the water didn't do it, if cable TV and MTV didn't do it, if dial-up internet didn't do it, then why the fuck would Youtube shorts make the young people mental invalids?
>>7747978>>7738377Not really AI fault, the LN & VN industries been in a decline like this for over a decade, so there's less jobs available for illustrators while more Japanese artists are learning to draw so Supply > Demand.In contrast to them you have the anime & manga industries where the Demand > Supply so hard that companies like Toei and Mappa are hiring foreign animators en masse, and Kadokawa's hiring foreign comic artists to draw manga adaptations of their thousands of isekai light novels because companies like Webtoon and Kakao are "stealing" manga artists to their app platforms thru better pay, small barrier of entry and far less work.
>>7749907I forgot to mention that a lot of LN illustrators were going to the mobile gacha games a few years ago, the pay's a lot higher than LN but the Japanese gacha bubble burst so now they're going into manga, anime, V-Tuber for obvious reasons, they're still growing.I'm fascinated by this stuff so ask away.
the chiodo brothers (3 brothers who are most notable for making that killer klowns from outer space movie) are all pretty good illustrators.
>>7750124You ain't kidding. I love this stuff:https://chiodo-bros-productions-inc.square.site/#TIkMiy
>>7749915Ironic.Talent began to pour out of anime/manga industries and into the fledgling game industry in the 80s and 90s. Could things be coming full circle?
>>7737072Kenshi Yonezu, one of the most popular Japanese singers in the world is also a great Illustrator, and he creates the cover art of his own songs.Fujimoto, the manga artist of CSM said that's unfair that Kenshi is so good at art.
>>7755099>Fujimoto, the manga artist of CSM said that's unfair that Kenshi is so good at art.I agree with him.
>>7755099>>7755101He used to be a Vocaloid producer and those guys are multi talented.
>>7737279he is also mastering AI now
>>7755099Some people just have all the talent, it's not fair.And if we're mentioning former vocaloid producers, I think this anon is on the money >>7755119Take the example of Kanzaki Hiro, better known as the guy who originally designed and drew for Oreimo and Eromang Sensei, had a pretty successful run as a vocaloid producer (Hiroyuki Oda and nagasoumenp) in the 2000s apparently. More recently he designed Hinemori Luna's avatar.
>>7755099>I-it's cheating to be good at 2 things!>>7755151>Some people just have all the talent, it's not fair.Real shit, I know a rapper that's also a graffiti artist, and he's a way better artist than most anons here despite barely making art, it pisses me off.
>>7755151Hiro's also an animator.
>>7755099His album art for the Gundam Gquuuuuux single gave me 2000s shoujo manga vibes, very nice stuff.
>>7737072>No cloth seam near neck, face doesn't seem covered. Pant seam on leg, seems to be wearing boots. Asscrack on display, seems like pants are half down buttcheeks.Ah yes, decided to ambush foes mid shit, like my narrative senpai.
>>7737276>tradchad i kneel
>>7737276Good technique but his faces could use some work. Wasn't illustrator actually one of his original considerations for a career?
Didnt he make that nude Kate Winsket drawing kek
>>7737322>A lot of V-tubers can draw for some reason>There's also a bunch of illustrators turned V-tuber there is your answerartists already do screams of themselves drawing. all you have to do is turn your epic OC into your stream avatar and now you're a Vtuber
Joe Roganhttps://old.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/a77zn8/rogan_was_a_legit_artist_these_were_his_amateur/
Kanye Westhttps://youtu.be/2gQZrtRwp_M
