Windows is going to shit but I use Paint for most of my digital art.Is there a linux Paint clone with all the same tools?
Why is windows going to shit?
>>7753813Ate too much fiber
>>7753809unfortunately krita is the only viable shit on Linux
>>7753809there is an MS paint app on IOS
>>7753809Windows is not going anywhere, just be careful of what sites you go into and youre going to be fine. Common sense is the best antivirus there is.
>>7753809I'll assume you mean the version of paint in windows 7 to windows 10.Ultimately there are many programs that can do what paint does, but none of them will feel quite like paint.Running the windows 7 version of paint is technically possible but too much of a pain in the ass to be considered https://blog.quincetart10.is-a.dev/2024/04/25/mspaint-wine.htmlBoth win xp paint and GraphicsGale feel like paint, are easy to install, and run mostly fine in Wine. The main issue I've encountered is that the color selector doesn't display the crosshair.Win xp paint can be installed in a wine prefix with just 'winetricks mspaint'.You can also use the web version but it's laggy when zooming https://jspaint.app/GraphicsGale can be setup by popping the installer into Lutris.Krita of course works great and you can make brushes similar to mspaint. However it's a fully featured drawing program and thus feels very different to paint.Tegaki is also another great alternative that anyone who's used /i/ knows of. https://desuwa.github.io/tegaki.html
>>7753809if you want a clone https://jspaint.appworks on any os that can run ff/chromeif you want a chill no frills drawing program check out mypaint
>>7753809Just pirate the fucking Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC.
Try KolourPaint
>>7753824>>7753809There are multiple drawing apps on iOS.
>>7753813Windows is increasingly removing user autonomy. Forcing users to save their data and files on their cloud servers so they can train AI on it rather than allow users to have files locally, experimenting with ads on your desktop, simplifying and obfuscating more advanced user controls. Basically trying to make their users dependent on them, like a digital enclosure, most likely so they can begin charging subscription fees for the OS to use an ad free version, etc.It's becoming bad, the writing is on the wall, I've used Windows all my life, Linux is unironically finally going to become a competitive alternative the further Windows oversteps and enshittifies
>>7754174The issue I've seen with Linux is that it's gotten to a point where it works well for games, but for productivity it's still a pain in the ass to wrangle into doing what is a very simple thing on mainstream OS
>>7753809KRITA works well on linux and windows. it isn't set up as a pixel art program, but it has pixel art brushes you can use (a circle, a dot, and a dithering net). once you get use to the interface (which you'll only ever use 10% of), the layer system makes pixel art SOOOO much easier than mspaint. don't let the awful UI scare you off, it's not blender, not even GIMP in terms of complexity.
>>7753809None. The rest are either crappy browser slop or non beginner friendly like krita
>>7754174i just use WinAero to turn most of the jewish shit off, including cloud backup. i also have a simple powershell script for removing copilot from the OS. the options to get one of your balls back are still there on windows, you just have to be smart enough to install some GUIs and enter some code like a script kiddie. the only thing i can't seem to fix is using windows 11 without an account and disabling the "search with bing" feature in notes. but i guess i could always just use some other program for notes.
>>7753809Buy a shitty laptop, put cracked WinXP on it, and never connect it to the internet. $100 problem solved.You're never going to find an actual Linux alternative to anything because FOSS devs are incapable of grasping design standards.
>>7754259linux mint is as close to the windows experience as you're gonna get, but you'll need to be familiar with the terminal if you want to install GUIs like for art, and in general all of the FOSS art programs are windows-only. i came crawling back to windows 11 when i got filtered by the terminal. you can get some programs installed with software like FlatPak, but sometimes you need to use the terminal just to get THAT to work.
>>7754244>linux is unbearable, you have to open the terminal and fiddle with it!>windows is fine, you have to open the terminal and fiddle with it after each update!i know, i know, not the same person, but this is very funny to me. especially since for linux is not really true in some cases.
>OMG don't connect to the interwebs on an old OS>NOOOO you have to upgrade before Win10 support ends!!!>you will get a Viruz if you don't AAAAH
>>7754263>but you'll need to be familiar with the terminal if you want to install GUIsYou're a fucking retard.https://thelinuxcode.com/manage-packages-linux-mint/>The default graphical package manager included out of the box with Linux Mint 21 is the venerable Synaptic Package Manager. Offering an intuitive app store-like way to find, install, remove and update packages, Synaptic makes package management approachable especially for those used to GUI based tools.
>>7753815I laughed
>>7754263If the terminal is too hard to use, if you can't type commands you're kinda just an idiot. Nearly all software lists out the exact commands you need to run to install it.The problem, however, is that you will inevitably run into a billion random ass tiny issues after you do install something, which are often not documented. You shouldn't be using version 10.4.3, you need to use 9.8.5, but that version is incompatible with VLC media player for some reason, so you need to use this fork maintained by a single obese neckbeard who's liable to die of heart disease at any moment and cripple an entire software ecosystem as he takes his mystic programming practices to the grave with him.
>>7754873Absolute FUD. Pick a stable distro like Debian and this will never be an issue. Disto maintainers are the ones who figure out this version mess for you. You have to do really dumb things like curl | sh from a chink server or download precompiled binaries to get yourself into that kind of mess.Oh and don’t pretend like you never had cryptig versioning issues on Windose. It’s called DLL hell for a reason.
>>7753813killing support for windows 10, quadroupling down on killing local accounts and mandatory microsoft AI integration into everything.using ms paint on windows 11 is actually infuriating now, you're one misclick away from waiting 30 seconds to a minute for the AI to do some shit you didn't want it to do.multiple times i've gone to box select something only to get fucked by AI erase toolit's actually faster to just x out of paint and reopen it than to wait for the AI shit to finish processing.
>>7754889also, for quick edits, you have to deal with layers now. you always have to manually make a background layer and fill it with white if you want to just do a quick edit and copy paste it somewhere else, otherwise this happens
>>7753809Yeah but it's going to be way more annoying>>7754174The thing about Linux is that it's fucking retarded. No consideration is given over to UI/UX design and I swear some of the devs do things different just for the sake of it.
>>7754175What do you mean, exactly? Examples?>>7754899I've been using Linux for a decade and I'm not sure what you mean about the UI/UX design- well, I guess the GNOME devs are a little opinionated and headassed. I went to Linux from the very last real good Windows OS, Win7, and KDE Plasma and even GNOME are equal to or better than that. Win10 was half a step down from 7, and 11 is a genuine dumpster fire. I've used a fair few DEs so far and they've all at least been functional, easy to use, and actually pretty nice looking.
>>7754244>>7754461I as well am finding it quite funny how increasingly far that users have to go to make the "easy" operating system actually usable while the "hard" operating system mostly just werks and stays out of the way. Even then it still seems completely impossible to totally exorcise the demons from Windows. No local account??? Lol, lmao even. I couldn't even imagine. Feels good to be the undisputed master of my PC and it just keeps getting better as the days go by.>>7754263You absolutely do not, lmao. Linux Mint is EZ mode and meant for newbie WinToddlers taking their first steps into PenguinLand. It's got a graphical package manager preinstalled. Even then, the aptitude package manager is stupid easy to use on the terminal. Literally just "apt search [package]", "apt install [package]", "apt remove [package]", "apt update", "apt upgrade". Every single command has a help function and a man (manual) page.>>7754889I bought a laptop off ebay and it came preinstalled with Win11. I was trying to draw on MS Paint while I was waiting for the OS I was wanting to use was downloading and it seriously kept crashing on me every five minutes. Absolutely unbelievable.
>>7755346I mean things are buried in nonsensical menus rather than where you would expect them to be, things generally don't work in an intuitive way, things are done differently than literally every other program for no discernible reason. For example; the file manager I was using, Dolphin, had a default behavior for drag and drop of BRINGING UP A FUCKING MENU. Drag and drop is one of the most straightforward, intuitive things about computer use, and they fucked that up. I looked it up and it was requested that this be added as an option in 2011, and lo and behold, it still does not have this BASIC functionality. I had wanted to uninstall a program I'd installed through a program manager; could I use the program manager? FUCK NO! That makes sense. No, I had to use the terminal. Fuck off. I was using Fedora and wanted to install a program that was available for Ubuntu; could I? ALSO NO, despite there being a program specifically to convert programs over, it just told me to go fuck myself. And EVERYTHING is like that. Once you get used to it, yeah, sure, it's FINE, it's works, but it shouldn't BE like that is 99% of cases because it's just straight up ignoring good UI/UX design.
