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On a break and browsing /ic/?
Let's talk for a minute, then get back to work.

Try to keep discussion on-topic.
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In order to succeed at art, doesn't it make more sense to crab others? There's a finite amount of resources/jobs to go around, wouldn't less competition be better?
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>>7766068
Doesn't matter if you're good
The effort you spend crabbing id better spent on improving and producing more
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>>7766068
That was my mentality at first. Eventually you realize that you can't catch up with those who are ahead and those who are behind can't catch up to you, with a few exceptions, and assuming you aren't a nodraw retard, so I stopped minding helping others. You also realize that it doesn't matter how much golden advice and help you give others, 99% won't listen or will quit anyway, not worth the effort of crabbing.

Also it feels nice to have some bros on the journey that can inspire you to try harder, it's been pretty barren lately, with everyone giving up or getting crabbed out of the hobby.
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I'm currently at that point where I feel like I'm crawling out of total beg and starting to get results that please me, but also entering that loop of "the more I know, the more I realize how little I know", which can be a bit discouraging. This is also coupled with a mixed feeling of me seeing leaps in progress, but my art still being far from where I want it to be, so I'm never fully proud of what I make.
It's not like I'm despairing and about to give up or anything, but it's a frustrating feeling of certain powerlessness, and was wondering if others have felt that way and how they got over it.
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>>7766068
While your success is surely someone else failure, someone else failure doesn't imply your success.

You can be the best crab in the world, but if you suck, you suck.
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>search for my name on Danbooru out of curiosity
>more than 30 images associated with the tag
>"Wow!"
>only one isn't in the "deleted" section
>they were all uploaded by the same user
>one of them has a comment saying, "stop uploading this Western crap"
I'm glad you like my art, my friend, but even I know my stuff isn't good enough to be there.
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I draw too much. is to the point is embarrassing. I draw like 8 hours daily and the only thing I do with my life is draw and study a bit and sleep 4 hours. I wonder what my followers think with me posting an full blown illustration every 12 hours.

Worst part is probably a lot of people think I use AI, that upsets me just a tiny bit, specially because I can get bored of drawing on a singular style and change on a whim. If I did not draw so much on public boards I think I would be fucked, I have tons of eye witness to the fact that yes, is all me and I'm just a no-life loser who only does a singular thing with his life.
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>>7766156
this will be my cover story for when people accuse me of photobashing AI (which I am)
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>>7766162
You don't get bored? this sounds so boring. Drawing is fun, cheating on it just ruins the whole experience for me and just makes a frustrating experience and exercise on futility. If you are not enjoying the process and doing all by yourself what is even the point of photobashing the AI pictures? just post the AI pictures.
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>>7766166
>Drawing is fun
Nta, but drawing is fun when you are good.
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I can't stop fapping to my own art.
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>>7766170
See? that's the problem. you are looking at it from the wrong perspective. Good compared to whom? The people on social media? the old masters, the slop machine?

Why you are not good enough, anon? And who decided that but yourself. Is one of the reason why I tend to dislike social media even if seeing the numbers go up is fun, at some point it just becomes that, you lose the sight of what is enjoyable in the craft and the point of improving, it becomes about dumb stupid fucking metrics that in the end of the day don't mean anything, specially if a good 1/3 of those are bots. You end up giving up to the this sorta of stupid impure desire and do dumb shit like doing anything you can to outperform anyone, but becomes a miserable cunt in the process, is really even worth it?

Just be better than what you were yesterday, or a week ago, or just try to do new things and improve by itself. You are already good enough, you just need to try to become better and try to have fun while you do it and enjoy the pain, if you are in pain over something like that it only shows how much you care, and that's good, right?
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>>7766179
I never looked too much at the numbers on social media, but I do recognize how slow my improvement is, or how bad I am for many things, like perspective, figure drawing, digital painting... It doesn't get in my head...
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>>7766202
Even slow improvement is an improvement. eventually things just click and you will see it was all worth it.
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Spent all day icing my hands and resting them to no relief until I saw a Rippetoe video where he says "Do twenty sets of neutral chinups"...

I drew for 2hrs completely pain free and finished the piece I was moping over not being able to work on.
He's the real fucking deal holy shit, even talked smack about doctors
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>>7766175
It's tough isn't it? I'd like to draw beautiful women without giving in to lust.
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>>7766376
>I'd like to draw beautiful women giving in to lust.
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>>7766068
You'll fuck up one day and piss someone off enough that they'll fuck you over tenfold.
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>>7766068
if you are actually good at what you do, competition should be a non issue



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