>>7767516
does this imply that vermeer was a wizard?

Any info on the Academy of Fine Arts in Bad Homburg vor der Höhe, north of Frankfurt?

>>7767516
My two questions are, where can I buy one of these today? And did Vermeer have access to lead white?

>>7767572
Home depot and aliexpress. It's not a marvel of engineering for today's standards, it's more of a children's toy.

>>7767516
What exactly has the trad thread got to do with tracing tools?
I thought here we were all ambitious to master our craft and not use shortcuts but train our eye and hands to produce the work we desire to make.

>>7767560
>Bad Homburg vor der Höhe
>Literally name a place "Bad"
Germanics are a funny group of peoples.

>>7767600
Means "bath", which is also common in Britain. It's also quite common in the US for street names and counties, but not as relevant.

>>7767607
Damn, you guys have to travel to a designated bathing town? We have bathrooms in nearly every home in the States

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Can’t seem to get a picture of this one I like, but here you go. Made some changes. Probably messed up the perspective. Time to move on. I want to paint a castle

>>7767560
>Academy of Fine Arts in Bad Homburg vor der Höhe
They will teach you to dance your name or something like this.
Germany never had a strong academic school, like France or Italy, to begin with. And after the war the Americans destroyed everything cultural that would be considered classic.
I dont think there is a single real art school left in Germany.

>>7767560
For context, they are ARC affiliated, that's why I ask. They seem to follow quite well the academic painting line, but their instructors seem somewhat lacking. It's not Berlin-tier, but not Watt's either.

https://www.artrenewal.org/ateliers/academy-of-fine-art-germany/10171

https://academy-of-fine-art.com/en/state-approved-painter/

>>7767662
How serious can you take ARC's recommendations if they can't recognize blatant AI, digital slop and all?

>>7767662
I actually spoke to a a few students who studied there but moved to a different academy, it's alright but just not great, I also think location may have something to do with it.
Can be interesting to visit if you live close. Maybe explore other places, I think it's also to think of location and local culture when you choose to spend a longer time in an academy like this. Florence Academy of Art is popular because it has brought forth many great painters which have all started other academies, it's also in a wonderful, arts and culture rich city. At the same time their Sweden department (FAA Sweden) can be interesting if you feel more inclined towards nature and the Scandinavian culture, the academy through it's location and teachers focus a lot on nature too.
The Academy in Barcelona (BAA) is situated in a real buzzing city, and of course close to the beach. A lot of art related things going on in that city. Can be interesting too though the academy itself is very busy too (can be positive or negative).
It's not easy to choose a place, but all of these academies more or less teach the same methodology and approach to drawing and eventually painting. Teacher skills varies, teacher attention varies too.

>>7767590

Thank our regular German schizo.

>>7767590
Please be respectful to Dutch artistic tradition

>>7767683
There's more than one, don't worry.

>>7767681
I'm moving nearby, but not close. I might take some of their workshops, but tuition is far too obscene and I wouldn't be able to take it full-time either way, so I don't see the point of doing it at all. I also don't want to follow art as a career, which adds offense to injury.

>>7767685
Joke is on you, I am dutch. :^)

>>7767728
>I am dutch
>Joke is on you
???

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>>7767667
>How serious can you take ARC's recommendations if they can't recognize blatant AI, digital slop and all?
Absolutely this, plus everything ARC-related is just a jewish money grabbing scheme. Those ARC certifications mean nothing, you pay and you have them. The "ARC Living Master (TM)" title? You gotta pay for it annually or they remove it. You win 1st prize in their yearly competition? Well, yeah, you might get some money, but they'll charge you for everything they can, including appearing on their print catalogue and exhibiting at their Winner's Gala. Funny people, those with the weird little hats.

>>7767662
Your best bet is to seriously look at the teacher's and student's work, and judge if you'd like to paint like that. Keep in mind, they'll only show you the best work themselves, so stalk the students a bit, contact a few of them even.

>>7767730
Oof, you got me there.

>>7767733
>Those ARC certifications mean nothing, you pay and you have them. The "ARC Living Master (TM)" title
What the fuck is this?
Never heard of such a title. Who is the most famous ARC Living Master?

1 trad painting in 6 months, its fucking over guys...

>>7767761
Six months is nothing. Go get that bread, anon!

>>7767761
Better than 13 wasted canvases in 6 months.

>>7767761
I sometimes do quick paintings in figure drawing sessions if they have 15 minute (or longer) poses. Sometimes I crank out 4 in a single evening.
It gets you in the mood for painting that often carries over into the next few days.

>>7767869
how do you waste a canvas, just take the garbage off

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Warframes are hard

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Going to watercolor

>>7768588
Why are there so many flies around her head? Does her hat stink? Why doesn't she wash it? Is it a commentary on how disgusting women are?

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bamboo practice

>>7768834
I don't like it.

>>7768859
I do, there's promise
needs to mature more though, his style looks like he's doing Lilo & Stitch porn on patreon and purring these out as teasers

>>7767681
I followed this advice and realize now that most of their students and some of their instructors are permabegs. It also doesn't help that most of their faculty is female.

Well, guess it's me and my self-paced learning.

>>7768936
not him, but I don't think you can expect a school to make you anything approaching a master, that's the purview of personal mentorship by a master
schools are there to teach you the fundamentals (something you can easily learn on your own) and technique/process (something in extremely short supply you're lucky to learn at a school let alone on your own) and to provide you with an environment and opportunity to do shitloads of studies you couldn't do otherwise (providing large space, models, casts, drapery etc)
saying they're permabegs is dumb when the average first year graduate is much better than anyone here

>>7768963
And I think you're correct, specially when you talk about technique/process. That single aspect is by far the most difficult to find and learn, either formally or self-taught. Every other aspect pointed isn't much trouble and can be mitigated heavily (see algenpfleger, which got really good really fast being basically all day in a studio apartment for one year).

And I call them permabegs because they are. Not all students and instructors have an online presence, so the basis for this comment is mostly attention whores and some good ones which fall off the norm. The ones with an online presence are also mostly women, so go figure. From the pictures they have of the classes themselves I can see some really good technique from some of the students, but they don't get mentioned in their instagram or don't have a presence, so from what I can tell there are really a lot of permabegs there.

>>7768872
>his style looks like he's doing Lilo & Stitch porn on patreon and purring these out as teasers
I lold.
>>7768936
>Well, guess it's me and my self-paced learning.
Whats your goal?

>>7769005
>Whats your goal?
Historical and religious figurative academic illustrations, but that's the pretentious end goal. Short term is portraiture, which sells well and would subsidize art as a secondary income, which would allow me to make my day-job a part-time. I'm sticking to figure fundies and Bargue for now with the little time I have.

I enjoy using charcoal, learned a little of the technique from the Nathan Fowkes course as well as the NMA "complete russian academic drawing" course, but want to eventually bridge to gouache and later oils. Currently I mostly work with digital, however.

>>7769024
>portraiture, which sells well
Does it? I'd think landscape is the bread and butter for 99% of painters, portraiture sounds like you'd have to know people to get well paid work.

>>7769030
That's the thing: I know people. My day-work is full of self-centered corporate pricks, and even if they are not my market I know the kind very well. Pays a premium in comparison to landscapes as well.

>>7769032
Jelly, 2bh

>>7769024
>>7769024
>Historical and religious figurative academic illustrations
Its a lost craft at this point, some try to do it, but there is not a single human being on Earth right now, who would be considered Top G in the Golden Era of Academic Art. Modern masters are like what the pyramid in Las Vegas is to the ancient pyramids.
Bargue? Have you chosen it randomly? Are you aware of the two big styles in drawing, French and Italian?
If you want your art to look Italian, but you study the French, you may not be happy in the end.
Interesting video on this topic, even though there is more to it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU84ABJKjPs

have any of you attended an atelier?
what level do you have to be for one to be worthwhile?

>>7769041
Funny enough, I have some personal contacts with the German lower aristocracy, aka old money. The kind of people with bronze busts and portraits of their forefathers. These guys retire and then want to spend money on leaving a legacy. You can make them really happy by providing a means for that and make a good money out of old businessmen, doctors, bankers, etc.

>>7769051
I'm aware of the difference; I don't care about it. Most of my art influence over the years weren't academic painters to begin with, and so I already have a very distinctive way of doing/seeing things. One thing that I never liked in the idea of going for an atelier education is because I don't care much about doing the same thing as they are doing, perpetuating the same ideas. There is a lot of value in tradition, as previously stated the techniques/process are difficult then and almost impossible otherwise, and you should harness that value, but if you ignore everything beyond the technique you're just bound to mimicry. If I have to be honest, the fine arts market is leagues behind the commercial arts when it comes to expression, narrative, illustrative techniques, design, so on, but it's the only place where value is kept (AI can't make paintings yet) and where you can make lasting impacts if you deal with the right subjects. You tell me about there not being people considered "top G" anymore, but also tell me how many of them are delving into design like Mucha did, for example. He is best known for his illustrative work, but you can't say that the slav epic and his religious work aren't of relevance to his legacy. In a sense, you could blame a lack of conviction or culture for the lack of good, meaningful academic art. Idk.

TL;DR: If masterfully drawing naked men for pats on the back from other artists is what it means to follow academic illustration, then I take that adjective away.

>>7769051
>Michael Angelo

>>7769060
The better you are going in, the more you'll make of an atelier. But the best time to start is now, no point in spending your time studying at shitty places when you could be getting a proper education.
Keep in mind though, the top students at the elite academies all had tons of previous experience. Some people do several ateliers one after the other, just because like anon said above, you can't expect to be great in 3 years. There's somebody studying at Lyme academy now who went there after doing 3 or 4 years at GCA.

>>7769064
There is only a very small market for real traditional art. Mostly in America, not Europe.
American boomer aren't good educated in art and history. They value effects over substance.
In the art market is not not based on meritocracity, the opposite is the case. At least on paper. In reality you can make money with art when your family is rich or you fuck the right people.
The art itself is explicitly anti-academic, postmodern and left wing.
If you want to be part of it, you probably cant. If you still wanted, try to suck the right dick and produce postmodern trash art. Learning the academic technique would be contra productive.
The whole European culture was wiped out. Postmodernism won. Its over.
Art, literature, ballet, theater, sculpture is all gone.
Classical music is the last bastion. Bet it will be gone in 1-2 generations as well.
I don't know why you would think you are the guy to begin with, you are obviously not the guy.

>>7769086
What?

>>7769124
I don't think I am, lol.

I do it because I want to and because it's what makes it all worthwhile for me. I don't need money from art, I'm not a one trick pony that will starve if this doesn't work out.

Sincerely, I don't think art is a viable market for the same reasons you mentioned. You're either selling your soul or impoverished if art is all you can do and daddy doesn't have deep enough pockets. Now, I don't need the money, so why should I care about the fine arts "market"? If I can manage to break even, that's more than fine by me to justify it as a part-time thing.

Art will carry on as a side gig, either that or there will be a resurgence of patronage by the upper middle class. Either way, at least it is a chance to steer away from postmodernism and avoid bankruptcy-due-to-AI, innit? Plus, being adjusted members of society on the side might make artists less sociopathic and self-centered, but that's a wild idea.

>>7769126
>The name is Angelo. Michael Angelo

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>>7769142
If you treat it as a hobby, the only way to go is specialization. You can be a decent landscape painter without giving it all.
We talked about it in the last thread. When you skip everything else, and focus only on one thing, it could be enough, i think.
Most old masters started very early, most learned from the best and they worked in a very art friendly environment. I think thats required to achieve the whole package of skills, to paint something like pic related.

>>7769145
Whos name? I dont get it.

>>7769159
Angelo, first name Michael

>>7769174
It's too intercontextual, i still don't get it.

Is anyone here good at drawing still lifes? I've gotten decent with figure drawing, and my still lifes look beg tier in comparison. Still lifes are supposed to be easier, but the thing is you're drawing different shit in different positions every time and the shapes have to be geometric and precise and it takes me an hour just to figure out where to place the items. It's completely overwhelming. Is there a gesture drawing equivalent for still lifes that demystifies them?

>>7769193
>Is anyone here good at drawing
not really

>>7769193
>I've gotten decent with figure drawing
Show.
>my still lifes look beg tier
Show.

>>7769157
The problems they faced back then are different from today. Then it was a problem of finding any education, and when you found it chances were it was of good quality but also not cheap. In the Renaissance, most Atelier had apprentices from the lower nobility and merchant class, so even then it wasn't accessible financially, but out of those thousands of apprentices only some made it to prominence. Art was always gate kept.

Now our problem is the converse: we have too much information, too many resources, and people of very little depth producing art. Money isn't a problem like it were then, nor is access to education (even less if you pirate books), but discerning what is good from what's trash for learning and expecting Philistines to be able to produce anything worthwhile.

And yes, let's call it a hobby, but never lightly. A hobby sounds more like occupational therapy to me, but I don't know a better term for it myself. I also agree with specialization, but I also don't see the point for overspecialization. It's good to know about anatomy, for example, but with the tools we have nowadays you don't need to be a master of it. No rules, just tools, and nowadays we have a plethora of those; just gotta be careful to not let them become a crutch, like OP's picrel.

Idk, we'll see how it goes. I'm coming back to arrive after a long hiatus, so I might be Dunnin Krugering.

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>>7769207
This is a figure drawing I made. It's not the greatest, but I could show it to someone and they'd probably think it's nice. My still lifes are a lot worse, I'll post one after this.

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>>7769213
This is from a live still drawing class. It's not finished but that's kinda part of the problem, as I had about two and a half hours and I'm always really slow. I spend a lot of time trying to find angles and proportions and when I finally commit it turns out to be fucking inaccurate anyway and I have to eyeball it, and drawing the complex geometric shapes feels like something a human can't do, and everything comes out wobbly and muddy which is the opposite of what I want. When I added shadows, the shape of the pumpkin got completely lost, as you don't get a crisp picture with clear lighting in real life, everything's smaller and... it fucking sucks basically. I'm not sure what to work on. I think the skills used to draw figures should carry over to still lifes.

>>7769217
You're wrong and right. The skills carry over, if you use the overlapping skills to begin with. Your candles are flat, I can't feel the form of them at all. The ellipses of the chandelier and the candles are in different planes, leading to different horizons. Same goes for the table. Everything else on top of the table is organic, but they still should follow perspective. Moreover, I'd suggest not shading on printer paper, the texture can end up too rough for some materials. Hatching works better as a technique, with contour + hatching for cast shadows and just hatching for form shadows, but use your discretion. I'd suggest newsprint, but that can be hard to find depending on where you live.

>>7769209
I think money is quite a big problem. You can learn cg in room with a computer and 40$ graphic tablet. For real art, you need expensive materials, space, props and models, all very expensive.
>but with the tools we have nowadays you don't need to be a master of it
You think tracing 3d slop and ai slop is even comparable to learning anatomy from life?
>No rules, just tools
No race, no gender, no nations, no traditions... yeah, no, i reject those postmodern mantras.

>>7769213
>>7769217
No, you are actually not delusional, your figure is clearly better. The still life looks like drawn by a 8 yo.

What are you doing in general, are you following a course, how long are you doing it, what are your goals?

The figure is from a photo and still life is from life? Have you ever painted figure from life? Maybe thats your problem, maybe you are to much used to 2d to 2d, and 3d to 2d is hurting your brain.

>>7769228
>You think tracing 3d slop and ai slop is even comparable to learning anatomy from life?
No, not at all. Using anatomical models to build detail on top of Riley abstractions, however, is more than valid. As I said, you don't need to be a master, but I'm not of the opinion you should be a hack either.

>No race, no gender, no nations, no traditions... yeah, no, i reject those postmodern mantras.
Anon, you're dishonest like a jew and emotional like a nigger. When I say I would want to go for historical/religious academic illustration you tell me the West has fallen, and when I say that tools are there to be used you essentially call me a kike. Make up your mind, lol.

>For real art
Huh. Idk, I think there's plenty of real digital art out there, and plenty of digital artists with very solid foundation. I don't personally like the medium either, but it's just another media.

>>7769193
Still lifes are harder because it demands more technical skill. Learn perspective and how to contruct boxes, cones, spheres and cylinders and you'll have an easier time. I'd suggest not rendering until you have a decent handle on just getting the forms proper.

>>7769234
>Using anatomical models to build detail on top of Riley abstractions
Its not new, but even if, it will only help you with draw the envelope (as the Spanish guy from the video i posted earlier calls it) but to paint the flash there is no other way but painting from life.
People posted in older threads memoirs from Bouguereau, he drew his cartons from photos, statues and so on, but he always used real women and children to paint the flash. If he couldn't do it, who can? There is just no substitute for real skin that will make you paint like the French Adolphe.
>you're dishonest
But what else do you mean? Is tracing photos, ai, camera obsura, 3d... the same as painting from life? Nope, its not.
>there's plenty of real digital art
It was a little joke, in the first place i meant real as not digital. Physical painting is expensive.
But partialy i was shitting on digital art as well. I think its deserved.

>>7769226
>Your candles are flat, I can't feel the form of them at all. The ellipses of the chandelier and the candles are in different planes, leading to different horizons.
I wasn't thinking about perspective at all, you're right. There was so much going on that I could barely focus and I was scrambling to get something sensible on the page. Although I'm not sure why you say the organic stuff on the table isn't in perspective.
>>7769230
I followed Brent eviston's courses for the basics and then figure drawing. He mentions drawing from life but the drawings in the course were way easier and I was also still shit at them desu. I've also taken a shading course recently which definitely improved my vision, at least when drawing from pictures. I've drawn very little from life, and it definitely feels harder. When drawing figures I feel like I have a clear blueprint to follow and a lot of freedom with organic shapes, whereas still lifes just seem like a set of straight or curved lines that I have to copy accurately and it seems fucking impossible, I almost panic. As I said, I wish there was some kind of "procedure" for still lifes that makes them easier but I haven't found one so far.

>>7769263
Gotcha. To begin with try a simpler still life, with fewer objects and less filigree. If you are better at organic forms, draw something organic, with drapery, without geometric man-made objects. Do a couple, that should help.

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Gonna go and paint this brass tea pot with acrylic gouache. Kind of interested to dip my toes in with that medium, never used it before.

>>7769279
its more or less very matte acrylic, could be a frustrating experience

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>>7769285

That's okay, i read aa much. I'm mainly an oil painter now but I started out painting with student grade acrylics a few years ago. Pic related, one of the first things I did with acrylics. Obviously it's ass and I am never going back to acrylics on actual canvas but I think it might be a nice medium for me to loosen up a little and practice for tighter brush economy in my sketchbooks with.

>>7769193
>>7769217
>>7769213
You're using two tones and reference from a photo, no shit your figure is going to look better, there is zero values captured in the still life.

>>7769030
Can confirm, of everything that I sold this year landscape paintings have the biggest share.
People like it, I paint outdoors for landscape too which gives people a feeling it's the real thing, pure in a sense. I don't mind honestly as I really enjoy landscape painting but at the same time I get too attached to my landscape paintings that selling them hurts a little every time.

believe me, bro, landscapes make you rich, bro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODFUOiLRXO0

>>7769124
lol

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>>7768588
FAILED

>>7769483
nobody said it would make you rich, retard
show how much he was asking for

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>>7769483
He tried to sell picrel in New Zealand, in a town of 510 (five hundred and ten) people total
He literally says his paintings are selling online
Why are you such a homosexual kike?

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>>7769699
picrel, the location of his art gallery

>>7769699
why does everything he do feel like an illustration and not fine art? What's he doing that I don't like?

>>7769699
>landscape sold for 11k
I could live for a year on that

>>7769708
It took him probably 2 years to trace.

>>7769776
Hmm I wonder how much time it really takes him to make that.
I sell landscapes, I make small ones that cost me a day. 2-3 hours of actual painting but also travel, finding a spot, setting up, and eventually packing up again to head back home.
I sell these small paintings for €200 euros but people like them, so that makes me happy too and it's always a bit difficult to part with them because it's easy to get attached to paintings you make outdoors.

>>7769789
Generally I see painters paint a study on location, then go back to the studio and paint a large, developed painting based on that, both modern painters and centuries back. Historians really like pointing out how the ones done on location are better, too.
I'd guess it did take him up to 2 years putting a couple of hours a week into the still life, less for the landscape, including varnish.

>>7769789
>also travel, finding a spot
Where do you live?
I live in a very boring region. Its ugly, but not ugly enough to make the ugliness the subject of the paining. I dont know, maybe i just dont have an eye for landscape sujets.

>>7769528
What have you done?

>>7769808
Netherlands.
I need to travel sometimes but I am also learning to see beauty in little things, a lone tree, a puddle of water, a composition in a pile of bricks even. I sometimes travel to old cities but only to get inspired by little things. There's beauty to be found in even the most mundane things.

Wasn't it James gurney that does landscape paintings of very typical things? Like painting a gas station while his wife goes shopping? Check out his work on youtube, maybe you get a little inspired to see beauty in things around you, maybe make it a challenge for yourself.

>>7769789

Can you post something you made? I'm eurotrash too and it would help me tremendously if I know what type of work you can sell. I struggle with self-confidence a lot.

>>7769811
>>7769814


Just read you're Dutch. So am I lol.

This thread is divided between the Dutch (read: Jews), the Germans (read: Turkish) and the Americans (read: Mexicans).

>>7769808
It's ugly because you're used to it. I moved to New Zealand at one point and was blown away by the nature, all the different, weird plants, birds etc. After a few years, it was just bushes to me. Then I moved back to Europe and marveled at crows, ravens and literal weeds.
Think of American landscapes that seem cool and investing to you, realistically it's literally just reddish dirt and a horse and cactus.

>>7767516
Nooooo, don't tell me I missed the previous camera obscura discussion?? We had one in the previous thread?

>>7769822

Please don't

>>7769817
Perfect condition to discuss the Gaya Israel conflict, actually. To spice things up, so to say.
>>7769819
I tried several times to drive around and do some photos. I wasnt ready to paint plain air.
So shoot some photos, but nothing was really interesting to me, besides the light. But i wasnt able to capture the light properly. Same with the lenses, i have only a 50mm lense on my camera.
I tried to paint the view from my window, it was okey, but the lighting conditions changed very fast. I wasnt able to produce anything remotely finished.
I donk know, maybe im just retarded.

>>7769832
Ever read Alla Prima? If you're painting outside, you'll need to be able to get things either fast or in a way which doesn't impede the workflow. For example: if you sketch first and then quickly define the lighting, afterwards all you'll be doing is using the scene to reference the details and nuances, the basis should already be down by then.

>>7769832
>I donk know, maybe im just retarded.
I've done close to a 70 plein air sessions in the past 2 years, it's probably the most difficult, the light, changing conditions, people, bugs, weather. Don't blame yourself, it IS difficult.

There's ways to ease into it, simplify the process and study from landscapes you like.
One thing that can be helpful, you said you struggle with the light so focus on that, here's one way.
Take with you only a dark and light paint, say ultramarine blue for dark and white for light. Mix a simple range of 3 values, a midtone, a light midtone and a dark midtone so you have range of 5 values from dark to light and paint with only these 5 choices. And really try to solve your painting with these 5, don't mix more, don't mix along the way, try to limit yourself.
This way you HAVE to focus on light without the distraction of colour. I started this way and it helps tremendously in simplifying the process.
Besides that if you doubt if something is lighter or darker than another thing, you can use your phone camera, put it in monochrome and compare values in reality that way, it's a little cheating but it can help you see things differently and aid the learning process.

Otherwise, apply the same manner of painting to do master studies, just copy them with your limited range, you will learn to see light and compositions with light. Later on you can add colours but this is a relatively simple way to get some confidence.

>>7769845
Thx, for the tips mate.
I think i will do it in the next time. It was one of my new year resolutions.
The problem is, for some reason i havent painted with oil for a long while now. I have to start it first.
Or, maybe i can do a plain air with my ipad, as retarded as it sounds, its way less expense.
>>7769842
Yeah, sure. But i was always too lazy to actually paint outside my house. I have a mobile easel but its still huge. And oil is really the only medium i have some substantial skills in mixing color. Watercolor would be easier to transport, but when using watercolor i dont have a feeling for the colors. I rely mostly on values. It has to be oil.

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The anon that said landscapes are the most sellable work is correct, the challenge is keeping landscape painting interesting for yourself because it becomes so samey after a while. Top half blue with clouds, bottom half green. Over. And over. Maybe a mountain this time. How about a tree. It’s real drudgery after a few of them in a row

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>>7769922
I mostly use watercolors, but gouache might be a more familiar middle term for you. Picrel is essentially what I carry, but I'm also not often in the same spot for hours since I carry only an A6 field journal. Still, works for me for short landscapes, and it's so light I don't even care to carry it and don't need an easel.

>>7769936
>>7769936
>gouache might be a more familiar middle term for you
Paint that shifts hue and value after drying does hurt my brain. Gouche is the worst, because it shifts differently depending on how much water or white is in the mix.
I tried to paint my garden with gouache several times. Colors looked very cartoony, and nothing like the nature in front of me.
P.S. you sell a6 gouaches for 200 eros? Thats not bada t all.

>>7769958
Not the same guy, I don't sell anything for 200 yuros. Kek

>>7769929
do you have a blog?

>>7769966
not him, but google brian comforti
also has a schizo youtube channel for dating advice

>>7770022
>also has a schizo youtube channel for dating advice
i assumed him being a fag?

>>7770062
>t. tulip smelling clogcuck jelly of Italian animal magnetism
Brian slays mad pussy

>>7770066
ok, brian, i belive you

>>7769809
I dunno

>>7770071
I am not Brian (but I wish I was)

>>7770097
okey

>>7767633
this is personal advice but you need to find a balance when you draw in ink and wash. if you do really precise inks like that you should avoid rendering, and go more for texture instead. if you want to render you need to be loose with the ink. otherwise it's always going to feel incomplete otherwise
you could also play with ink colors, like the painting looks really good at the foreground but as you go toward the distance the black ink lines flatten the atmospheric perspective. you have to either use ink that isn't black or significantly thin your lines as you go further back