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What’s your experience been with making art friends online? Most of the artists I know don’t really have anyone to talk to, and it’s been years since they had a real friend group
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>>7770017
we don't talk anymore. I'd like to but it's been too long
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>>7770017
I met some artists irl, but none of them became big friendships or even small friendship.
One artist was a bit of a cool drinking buddy while I was abroad, but we barely talked when I returned.
A few artists I got along with annoyed me with their incessant political posting (Trump derangement, despite being basically on the other side of the globe) which discouraged me from reaching out again. I'm mostly online on WhatsApp, so I don't really check on those who gave me their instagram or X.

Talking with artists feels very cautious on both sides. Speaking to strangers withing my day job field is much more chill.
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>>7770017
every time I tried to join a discord server everyone was deepthroating the local porn artist who drew with a cancer inducing art style and had the typical obnoxious personality that made you wanna fucking strangle him with razorwire but also had 300 gorillion followers and earned 15 trillion dollars a month on Patreon because he drew the futa dicks really big or something, so of course he's the funniest guy ever XD
artists are a bunch of little sluts
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>>7770017
I like the idea of having art friends, but once I added some anons from here I felt like it became kinda like a chore trying to connect with them and telling them how great their art is and what im currently drawing and yada yada
I dunno, maybe im just too weird and socially retarded even by 4chan standards
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>>7770017
The only people online I talk about my art with are a bunch of (presumably) dudes I am aquitanced with trough 4chan, most of whom were from back in the day when /tg/ still used to run quests and I participated in a bunch of them usually by drawfagging in them. I even ran a couple of shit tier quests as well.

Social media or dedicated art sites have been utterly useless for me to get in touch with people with interest in the type of shit I draw, though on deviantart I have a bunch of people who do comment regularly on the stuff I upload but besides that I don't really interact with them.
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some level of narcisism is probably necessary to become an artist
I'd rather make friends with people with different interests
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i find my art is good enough now that it's kind of easy to reach out to artists that follow me on twitter. I just draw a decent piece of one of their characters and that most of the time opens the door for conversation, but I don't know how to carry a discussion once I'm in. I'm also always afraid I'm going to say something off key that'll scare them off
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>>7770050
That sounds like every art discord I've been. Seeing the other artists kiss the ass of creepy porn guy with a big following disgusts me.
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>>7770107
nta but if I've contemplated starting a swf only discord, but I dont think there are enough people
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>>7770050
>>7770107
can also confirm in my limited experience its like that. its very bumfuck nowhere town popular kid in highschool energy
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>>7770116
my experience with trying to join SFW only discords out of despair to avoid porn is that they only exist for the mods, who are always transgender for some reason, to gather 13 year olds which they then flip onto their actual porn server they've linked everywhere with a warning that it's totally NSFW and you shouldn't look at it if you're underage
I do not believe you should link your porn server at all if you want to keep the space SFW especially when you do so because your idea is that it needs to be kid friendly
they literally just exist as a proxy to funnel kids on a porn server. discord culture is fucking vile and adults should never be allowed to mingle with kids in leisure spaces
I have never seen a server that was about not having porn on it rather than grooming kids, maybe they only exist in retarded Christian communities
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>>7770212
you sound like a retarded puritan
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>>7770218
you sound like you choke on dick
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>>7770212
Well then a Christian server it might have to be. No trannies allowed, even if you only make SFW.
Also no Indians. You must curse vishnu
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>>7770050
viktor is that you
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>>7770017
>making friends
What are you, gay?
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>>7770017
joined a server from an old art section of a dead forum, the group fell apart due to gay ass commie larping faggots and then the glue of the group died

next group was a bit better from online drawing games but fell apart due to relationship drama + everyone got busy with irl work so we couldn't hang out and draw together like we used to.

Still miss those guys

art/reading/writing is fundamentally a very lonely passtime so I cherish those days
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>>7770026
Send them a message NOW!
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>>7770050
>>7770107
>>7770212
>>7770224
>you shall not make graven images
Enjoy hell!
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>>7770017
I'm happy to have some both online and irl. Joined a discord few years back and now I have vc drawing buddies. IRL from school and local gallery regulars.
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Spent years building a community and filtered all of the shit starters, weirdos, and vibe killers out of. Now I have real friends that do daily art VCs with. The most important thing is to never, ever let these mentally ill and/or fairweather faggots incapable of creating thriving, active communities convince you that they should have say so on anything important, nor let them implant large numbers of people who don't fit the culture into your community. Gatekeeping always works.
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>>7770517
How are you supposed to enjoy hell? I thought the whole point is that you can't enjoy it
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>>7770517
>if you don't want the server to be about shitty porn you are le christian XD
Haha I can't wait for mandatory ID verification to access the internet. I don't even like censorship but giving people freedom is objectively a mistake.
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Does anyone have different experience from what's been shared?
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>>7770811
Those chuds are lying to you. I'm the admin of a large Discord server and we welcome people of all ages from 12 year olds to 47 year old (like me!) and we all love to draw our fursonas together. Of course someone gets frisky sometimes but we can't allow that on our SFW only server for children so we make sure to those naughty bois to our NSFW server where we have all sorts of rooms for ERP and fetishes ;) of course we can't avoid that sometimes one of our underage members joins the NSFW server and in that case we can only make sure that he discovers his sexuality and his true gender. We have courses to draw animal penises correctly when we do ERP gangbangs with our fursonas all together. We have several kids in our NSFW server who discovered they were born in the wrong body this way. It's such a triumph when we get yet another one to do bottom surgery. It doesn't matter how many commit suicide as long as we get that choppy choppy action going on! I'm trans btw.
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>>7770017
They mogged me so hard I wanna draw just to beat em
They draw genshin characters
But I'd rather draw goon
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>>7770050
Every artist eith a following and a discord server are literally just highschool clique circlejerk all over again
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>>7770017
a lot of discords are cliquey bullshit that you'll never feel truly apart of, but individual friendships can be a blessing.
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>>7770017
am a pretty shy person when it comes to make friends both irl and online am currently on a drawfag server but i really reserve a lot i do ocasionally send messages but i dont really have a like close connection to someone in the group, and irl i really dont talk a lot about drawfag things with friends outside from sending my stuff if is a drawing related to something we both like or for quick check to see if is a good idea or quick mistakes, i do wish of making drawfag friends but i think am to shy for that
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>>7770811
If anything the only NSFW servers I've been are very selective about who they invite in (it's a system of recommandations from members and the mods will check your social to see if your interests/personality align with the server) and ban any user who lied about their age or whatever if they hear/find about something. Not saying groomers don't exist on discord or elsewhere but anon is just being loud and want to talk about trannies.
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About 10 years ago I livestreamed with a couple of crimson daggers people, they were cool, but I didn't know that relationships take work or that boundaries was a thing. My best art friend and I trolled one of my other friends by saying how cool hitler was and he left the discord and blocked my friend it was so funny. The best art friend asked if I contacted him to tell him we were kidding around, but I didn't care enough to do so. I had an art peer who is a girl and she deleted all her media and kept in contact with me, but I was always jokingly flirting with her (she had a bf and we all knew) and she blocked me as well. After that I couldn't get art friends online or irl to stick. I even went to one of those art meetups with Ahmed Aldoori and Steven Zapata and didn't even network, both of them was stressing how important it was to keep in contact with each other.
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>>7775603
Anon for the love of god atleast tell me that you became a kick ass artist in your decade long isolation?
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>>7775619
Would I be here if I did? I quit art off and on, and had to deal with adult shit like trying to survive and working shit jobs. I was also pretty unfocused and hate myself everyday for it anon. Hopefully you don't have to bear the weight of the shame I feel writing this, anon.
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>>7775619
>decade long isolation

Just read that part, I had friends throughout the years (Most of that changed after 2020, had work friends in 2024 but ended up fucking 2 co-workers and had to get out of there so I'm alone again) A girlfriend, etc. Ultimately I learned that I had a hard time knowing how to clarify and prioritize if anything. The break from art did teach me that while my art skills were completly rusty my more mature mind understood concepts like planes, composition and value hierarchy easier than before.
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>>7770811
>join discord
>everyone draws and posts work
>over time in jokes form and people start collabing
>start following other anons in the group
>top artists are either freelance/get commision regularly or have pro work out but are cool with giving crit and guidance
>that one guy who is the lolcow
>most of us are just beg or int but it's still fun to draw and clown around
>start getting itchy feet and realize I'm spending more time chatting about life than working on projects
>quietly duck out and start working on my book
>miss goofing around
>never see invite link posted again in threads
>don't want to ask mutuals for an invite after all this time
>book is almost
it was fun while it lasted
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>>7770017
Pretty sure being about the same level of skill and not insecure about your art is probably an actual requirement for that to work. Otherwise it's like any other relationship and it's a matter of chemistry and effort. I fail at the later. Talking to people online or on the phone is a chord for me, especially in a different language. No matter the subject it's just not the same organic social experience than meeting irl. My past experience in fandom/communities wasn't too stellar either. If you're above average, people either walk on eggshells around you or you do because some people treat you differently, no matters the intents. It's better than cold indifference but it's not fun and not great for bonding with people either.
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>>7770017
Alot of people are antisocial hermits, like me
I would like someone to talk about character design buildings and all the sorts but that can be difficult
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>>7770811
No, it's dog eat dog. I've seen friendships get harmed when one of them socially engineers the other to make financial decisions that ended up at a loss worth hundreds of thousands of dollars just so they can mock and ridicule the other to look superior in front of other big wigs with lots of money. It's quite depressing to see this behavior, we all joke about being crabs in a bucket well this place pales in comparison to what richfags do to their so called friends.

Think twice before you befriend someone online there are some sick puppies out there who genuinely gratify and take glee by ruining you and this space is no different.
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>>7770811
its so much worse than you can imagine
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>>7775835
>want to draw porn for money

When did /ic/ turn into this? It seems the only people here are those who want to draw anime NSFW shit. What happened to the old /ic/?
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>>7775908
Do you legitimately believe that space marine concept art is a higher and more noble calling than anime porn?
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>>7775927
not him but yes and I think space marine concept art is fucking dogshit
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>>7775955
The sad reality is both are dogshit, but if you try to do anything artsy the brainfucked twitter populace just won't get it. Concept art space marine in void does so well because the hordes of retards with third grade literacy levels can't understand anything more nuanced than big robot gun man. The closest you're allowed to get is 'aesthetically artsy' like backrooms and -core shit, but it's really not much better.
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All my online friendships ended with me getting ghosted or with me doing the ghosting. Online relationships just don’t seem to ever last. Also I don’t think you can truly know a person or call them a friend until you’ve spent time with them irl.
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>>7775603
kill yourself now, anon.
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>>7770017
had a lefty twitter group for a few years that constantly kept splintering off into separate groups. i still play TTT with one of said groups. now i have another group that im a bit closer too, great guys. doing art also helped me meet my best friend irl
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>>7770017
I wish there were more art irl meetups locally near me, I could find out here. My dream is to find a social space where artist can hang out draw and work on their projects or study. I had mentor said you might have to be the person that starts it but the social awkward part is real. Still feels like my next move though.
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Cool.
Group A we became friends because we like old anime and we like to draw.
In group B I befriended some clients and one of them pays me 200 dollars to draw her loli OC being molested and raped. Chill guy
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>>7770017
I do have a small friend group that I play games with but I think I'm too schizo and autistic for social interactions these days. It's so tiring trying to engage with people man
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>>7776252
Mingling with strangers sucks and is usually pointless.
Deep connections with good friends are wonderful. But unfortunately those deep connections get harder and harder to grow from scratch the older you get.
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>>7770017
i make electronic music alongside art online and pretty much every internet friends i made are on the electronic music sphere, the select few who are artists just happens to be doing the same things that i do (doing art and music at the same time)

making friends in the electronic music community feels easier since it's a small niche corner of the internet where everyone knew each other and try to grow together compared to the general art sphere that feels like a big busy city thats intimidating to traverse through
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>>7782109
>electronic music
Let me in on that. I used to follow a blog called Dodselectro(DeathElectro) that stopped posting a long time ago and that was my source. Discovered new retro wave before the movie Drive kicked it off, from Dodselectro.

I'm going to lurk by the way, I don't want to disrupt the ecosystem.
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>>7770017
i hang around communities with srs artists trying to make it in the industry, they're usually pretty nice and the quality is higher. ive found they are less likely to be rude because these are essentially your future co-workers but sometimes i see clear passive aggressiveness come through
i don't hang out /w other artists as much but they vary more, more honest about things, more doomerpilled, just a lot more temperamental overall. these types you find coming from youtuber artist discords
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>>7770017
In my experience over the years drawfags only make friends with drawfags. I understand people bonding over their common craft. It is something they have in common and they can exchange insights over. But drawfags have an elitist and exclusionary attitude.
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>>7770017
No, I never managed to have a consistent presence online which i feel is a prerequisite.
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>>7770017
For art, I feel that if you try to befriend someone who's more or less skilled than you, it inevitably turns into a mentor/student dynamic... It takes two people confident in their skill to make it happen imo. And it's very easy to get ahead or fall behind.
For that reason, I have no trouble making friends online, but I never really made art friends. Simply never got to connect with art-minded people in the same skill range and with similar interests.
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>>7770811
I have literally not ever had an experience like this, either I'm mentally and by the grace of luck incapable of meeting people that fit this threads scenarios, or 4chan blogposting is full of unlikable and mentally ill people who over-exaggerate their situations.
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>>7770017
most artists I know online are either reclusive enigmas or completely insufferable narcissists. the former group tend to be the ones better at art.
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>>7770218
there is nothing wrong with criticizing discord moderators for confirming stereotypes about them grooming teens
t. ero artist
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>>7775835
anyone have more lore on the gangstalking shit? how does that happen over discord?
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>>7782135
>>7782109
where would one go to meet other musicians online?
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>>7783687
>>7782135
nowadays i only hang with my private group of friends but if you're fine with dubstep / bass music in general since that's what i was talking about you can go to EliminateHQ public discord and go from there, the server itself is pretty active and the guy who owns it does community music production events every week or so
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>>7783688
>dubstep / bass music
im not really the biggest dub step fan, but elaborate on what you mean by bass music?
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>>7783689
it's just the colloquial umbrella term that dubstep falls into, something like neurofunk dnb, halftime, complextro and stuff like that

examples i can find:
Culprate - Dawn (neurofunk)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTFd0AkS05k

KOAN Sound - Forgotten Myths (neurofunk)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX8sdiVSkpc

Amon Tobin - Cruel Like Flint (COPYCATT Bootleg) (halftime)
https://soundcloud.com/itscopycatt/cruel-like-flint-bootleg

Vorso - Wannabe (halftime)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=necFszuebHI

Emplexx - Still You (complextro)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZaQZEw6NVU

i recommend you try giving dubstep a chance again! the newer stuff sounds nothing like the skrillex brostep era back in the day, and even if you end up not vibing with it either you can see really how far the genre has come since
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>>7770017
Why are you trying to make art friends online instead of making IRL friends?
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>>7770017
What are friends? there not that important
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>>7789097
>there
where?
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>>7782109
I'd do this if it weren't for the fact that techno fans seemingly just go to the club and do all their socializing there. IDM, dubstep and D&B scene in general seem more online.
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>>7770017
I feel like I get left out despite engaging with the group because I don't want to use Voice Chat or talk about non-art topics
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>>7789491
Same
Let's talk art
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>>7789491
Thats so true i feel that, i would just rather text about art topics like char design worldbuilding, something im more comfortable with,

talking can really be uncomfortable for me due to the awkward silence thing, i dont mind it but i know other people do, but both people still acknowledge it, so it becomes this weird atmosphere lmao
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>01). the kind that only procrastinate all day, never draw, and talk about current events
>02). the kind that only procrastinate all day, never draw, and talk about porn twitter
>03). the kind that only procrastinate all day, never draw, and livestream gaming
>04). the woman that's only there to be some guy's doormat girlfriend
>05). the woman that's only there to be some guy's mentally ill thirst-trap
>06). the guy everyone likes that never shows up
>07). the inner circle that just treats everyone else as NPCs
>08). sperg that spams fetish porn
>09). sperg that spams on-model porn
>10). sperg that spams furry porn
>11). sperg that spams gay furry porn
>12). sperg that insists cheescake is not porn
>13). smug popular guy, he's big on twitter and looks down on everyone else.
>14). cool chick that disappears thanks to hoe-scaring mfs
>15). token black (several)
>16). full-time artist (it's porn)
>17). industry wet blanket. Only here to monkeybranch into other communities and to pine for attention of yesdraws.

missing some
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>>7770017
I don't have any art friends which is good since most of artist i know IRL are retarded leftist who are pretentious little pussies or they are straight up on drugs and can't even finish one sentence that would make sense.
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Any Germans here?
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>>7770017
9/10 times its a one off collab (nothing wrong w that) or "how do i get into art" then they ignore all your advice and quit 3 days later

the only notable one was a person who wanted me to teach them to draw and was actually semi-serious about it, mostly due to their finances relying on churning out nonstop fetish commissions they hated doing, but i was more than willing to help since they really wanted to get out of beg hell and not be forced to accept every weird request

it devolved into asking me for pictures and sexual harassment when i told them im trans, and at one point said IWNBAW because i wasn't responding to their unprompted questions about how frequently i masturbate or how much a plane ticket to my country costs. i largely didnt react to it, then eventually they threw a huge fit at me for being "cold" and how much i hurt them emotionally, saw that i didnt care and they blocked me.
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How do friendships even work?
Both of us need to be getting some dopamine out of our company so what are we trading with each other?

Last friend i had before he landed a good job leaving me in the dust would go to a coffee shop with me to doodle and shoot the shit. That was about it.

I dont think the internet is a place to make art friends.
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>>7790630
Ja, was gibts?
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>>7770017
My programmer friend draws more reliably than 99% of the "I wanna draw teach me but i aint gonna listen" dipshits
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>>7791577
I wanna draw teach me
I dunno if I'll listen but I'll try
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>>7791589
I hate teaching. Fuck everyone.

Copy what you like. Copy it from memory. Make use of it in a new piece.
Train accuracy with eyeballing, that will lead to speed, more faster studies, more studies faster gains.
Don't polish turds.
Keep a gorillion of refs, and use them.

That's all there is to it.
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>>7791577
teaching should either be 100% serious or not done at all
my experience with casually teaching people (upon their request) is that they will pull lines like

>nonstop yawning and groaning into the mic the second they start, "god im so tired suddenly", "ugh why cant i focus"
>oh i drew so much, i can play some games (has the energy to grind league for 4 hours with total hyperfocus but tired from half an hour of drawing)
>asks for advice, responds with "makes sense" (applies nothing and forgets it instantly then asks the same question the next day)
>"oh i know i should study perspective but i wanna finish this drawing first" (they never finish the other drawing)
>constantly asks loaded questions like "this is pretty good right?" and "ive improved a lot right?" that i have to deflect
>"oh im taking a break" when you remind them that its been a week since the last time they studied
>half-truth cope statements like "technique isnt everything theres this one artist with a simple style that makes 1782187278$ off patreon"

what i realized at some point is that the kind of person who has the personality and passion to learn most likely doesnt need me to be their cheerleader so i started just refusing. when i myself was desperate to learn i went to an atelier irl and drew for 16 hours a day and never once felt tired or burnt out. having a serious class environment and a financial commitment filters out the lukewarm people and inherently motivates you to do your best.
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>>7791615
>Don't polish turds.
How do you tell if something's a turd?
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Never made a friend. Every discord is 99% extremely weird pathetic people. Its like youre sitting with the weird gross kids at a high-school lunch. Then I hang out in artists streams like Dave Greco and their entire chat is composed of big heckin reddit jolly positivy XD. Then theres places like this board which is just full of hopeless weird pedo scribbling losers.
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>>7791666
My ic discord is comfy :)
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>>7791672
My ic discord is dead but there's a bunch of good resources posted in there so I keep it around
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>>7791522
https://youtube.com/watch?v=XbM_mm9zwzA3D
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>>7791664
look at the refs, then back at your painting
the truth will manifest itself, assuming you have a working brain
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>>7791522
Hi, lass mal Skribbl spielen
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>>7792658
Ok, but only with my custom word list :)
https://skribbl.io/?RkCqmVrR
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>>7792669
https://files.catbox.moe/r21459.txt
Dafür dass die Wortliste vorher nicht bekannt war würde ich sagen, ein Triumph auf ganzer Linie. Lass es mich wissen wenn du einen Blog oder ähnliches hast.
(Und natürlich habe ich es nicht gesagt aber ich bin leider auch sehr neidisch auf deine Maoam)
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>>7792710
Haha, danke. Ja war cool :)
bin grade kurz davor, nen Blog zu machen. Falls der Thread lang genug überlebt, schick ich ihn noch.
Hast du denn einen?
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>>7775651
anon your old friends and anyone else reading this knows thats silly, just ask your mutuals for an invite
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>>7770017
All of my friends are artists but they are also professionals and work commercially. My gf is also a commercial artist. You just have to be serious about it and driven and ideally find people who will lift you up and give you good advice.

>>7770212
Everytime I see somebody with "minors gtfo" on their bio its obvious what kind of shit they get up to. Its so gross.
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>>7793658
Why would I want to interact with minors under any circumstances as an adult even if I am not drawing NSFW? Not having such a warning on your profile is much weirder than having it.
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>>7791664
flip your canvas
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>>7793666
Because since time immemorial humans of all age groups have interacted with one another?
You know the current pedo hysteria is exactly that, hysteria right? You're a prime example of it, presuming any and all interactions must be predatory.
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>>7793697
Why are you assuming people who don't want to interact with underagefags want to fuck them? Have you seen the kind of shit they get up to on twitter? 15 year olds nowadays are nothing like 15 year olds on 2008 deviantart, like half the drama on twitter come from these fags who larp as tumblr sjws and refuse to NOT engage with content they dislike or aren't supposed to be seeing anyway while hiding behind uwu I'm a widdle babby
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>>7770017
tell me your experience with art enemies.
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>>7793697
Kids have nothing of value to offer to me at all. Why do you think I am here of all places on the internet?
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>>7770843
If parents are not going to take care of their overgrown sperm and expect the internet to walk on eggshells so their foul spawn doesn't get offended, then I'm not going to feel bad if they get groomed and sucked into a furry sect.
Fuck them. we're not going to pad the internet to accommodate the spawn of irresponsible parents, keep your talking jizz offline.
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>>7793833
>Counterpoint and the GOP is in power.
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>>7770050
That's your mistake. You entered some server with people you don't like that make stuff you hate.

Your best bet is find one person you like then another and slowly make your own small group of friends
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>>7783391
It's the latter buddy boyo. The people on 4chan are wildly different from each other. From chuds, trannies, furries, lolicons, trad artists, nodraws, gooners, puritans, normal people... You just gotta learn to filter or just ignore it all
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>>7770017
I want to make some, but until now I've been too much of a coward because I'd be in the bottom 10% of artists no matter where I went and I have neither the personality nor the willingness to pander to popular tastes to make up for it.
I wish I'd joined furaffinity 15 years ago and just posted, no matter how bad my work. I've spent a long time seething that other people get to be real artists while I have to be a reclusive scribbler. I'm arrogant beyond my talents and I need to humble myself.
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>>7770017
I'm curious about what the ideal online art friend group would look like to some of you, what can you put up with, and what would instantly kill it for you.
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>>7770017
Meh, generally not worth it. Especially if you're an artist and extra especially if you're posting on 4chan. That's two low-social intelligence factors that can fuck you if mishandled. If you made the mistake of being nice to Royce on /tg/ (the local lolcow of the drawthreads) you have a horror story of being harassed by him.

The best friends you will make will always be made organically. Especially with regards to art. The best friends I've ever had have been coworkers who draw with me. Many of them are lonely souls who crave understanding, and have helped me through the hard times as I've helped them.
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>>7795946
>ideal online art friend group
Doesn't exist and is too vulnerable to real human friction. But ultimately it should be people who all at least sort of know each other already and like each other. Ironically 8ch's Loomis board is one of the nicest communities and they're all really resourceful over there but if you bring it up some tard over here bitches about the slow traffic stopping him from not shutting the fuck up all day.

>what can you put up with
I draw with some friends over discord and one dude is an exceptionally cringe NY rick and morty guy but he draws well. We just give each other some grace and never rip into each others' art, but we can talk shit about what we like. Again, these are people I talk to normally and have organic conversations with so online it's fine when we disagree. Slow community is also fine as long as it's resourceful and productive. I was in a discord with people I worked with at one point and it was actually pretty solid.

>what would instantly kill it for you
Typical 4chan behavior. Hair trigger explosions on strangers over nothing and unearned self-importance are instantly unpleasant.
Various media autism is also annoying because verisimilitude redditors CANNOT entertain interesting ideas.
Zero self aware behavior and ADHD and spamming are the death knells of healthy online communities.
Furries are right out, community ruiners to their core.
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>>7770017
>try to make friends
>everyone is a tranny
>ok, but I know what's going to happen
>they do nothing but doompost all fucking day and night
>yep I knew this was going to happen
>get bored of that and leave
>repeat
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>>7793727
I keep tabs on a few select artists either more technically gifted or popular than me. Whenever I don't feel like drawing I go and look at the latest trend-chasing turd or factory-produced sameface pinup they posted receive 5 digits of upvotes while the thing I spent three days on only got 4 digits and it gets my hate boner so hard that I go straight back to drawing.
I infiltrated the discord of an old design school acquaintance just to see the shit he posts. His clique endlessly praising his body-positive Tumblr-type turds fills me with so much spite that it kept me awake at night. His rendering is good but its wasted on shit so incomprehensibly repulsive that I can't bear the thought of him still being better than me.
I taped someone's comic on my punching bag so I could wake up angry at his indecipherable dogshit panelling and annoying sameface that somehow got tens of thousands of likes on Twitter. I tore it to shreds with my knuckles page by page. It was months ago but I still wake up angry.

I could go on about this forever. Some of them know me, some of them don't. It makes no difference, their art just pisses me off because it's still better than mine or does better numbers than mine. They are my art enemies and I live to surpass them.
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>>7770017
I know have a difficult personality so I don't really try anymore
I am slowly losing my ability to communicate from the isolation
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>>7795985
same
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>>7795985
tell us more
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>>7770843
>>7793833
I agree with you man.

Personally though, I wouldn't mind helping these fatherless lost boys get out of that hell, but thats a lot of work and I'm not one to look up too.
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>>7796071
You're responding to the most obvious sarcastic bait post on the planet
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>>7770017
why would you want art friends? drawing is an inherently solo activity. serious question.

as seen from the socials general, "art friends" are all a bunch of nodraws who will piss and shit themselves if you have a higher following and dont follow back and/or repost their terrible drawings, and that's social media talk, not drawing talk.
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no such thing as art friends
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>>7796071
Nice try diddy
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I think if you want to really make some artfriends, someone has to take a first step. It can be less scary to talk anonymously if you know your actions have zero repercussions, so I made a proton.me Mail, see the name field. Feel free to send a long rant about your miserable life, something you have been stuck on lately art wise, or whatever you want to talk about.
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>>7796073
Yeah, but theres some truth to it. Many kids are being raised by people who really dont give two shits about them. Its a sad sight to see and a tale old as time.
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>>7796201
my ninja in training, ain’t nobody stupid enough to send you an email
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>>7770017
Nobody is your friend until you get good. Once your good you have no need for friends.
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I joined a discord for a local artist group. I went into one of their voice chats and some nigger faggot was talking about how scared he is living in America because he’s a gay black man so Trump wants to kill him. Even though they meet IRL I’ve been unwilling to go since I know they’re libtards who can’t not talk about politics and have retarded persecution complexes.
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>>7796712
Those guys sound retarded but you sound like an even bigger retarded /pol/faggot
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>>7796727
yeah, he sounds like a gross bigot.
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>>7770017
I've been at it for 12 years, professional for 6 and I never made an art friend. All those who reach me are even bigger weirdos than me,
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If anybody is lonely and wants to draw together, motivate each other or play Paradox autism games, you can hit up my e-mail ( stopirritatingme1998@gmail.com ), I attached a sketch I was working on today to avoid any surprises
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>>7770665
Cool. Can I join?
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>>7770665
dui is that you
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how is it so hard for all of you to make friends. you just join whatever community and start talking while respecting the boundary knowing that you dont know anyone yet, chime in on ongoing topics and just let time do the work
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>>7806420
Because majority of art types wanna crucify me because I don't believe a woman can have a dick
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>>7806546
Look, I don't like trannies either, but the fact that you brought that shit up out of fucking nowhere says a lot about how mentally ill and obsessed you are. If someone's going on and on about shit you despise in an art community you'd otherwise enjoy then just target mute them and move on instead of having a political melty.
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>>7770017
They are acquaintences, not friends. Pretty much every single one of them will vanish. If you are so lucky, indulge.
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>>7783680
This - there are a lot.
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>>7796712
From my experiences you are probably right, but it's worth it to try and get them to say nigger. It's a fun little game I play with liberal tag-alongs.
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>>7799407
>a gross person with boundaries
Fuck off sexpest.



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