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Why you should not trust youtube shills:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH1WEYF8rlA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twy5Wo8m284

Do not worry pressure levels. 1024 is more than enough.
Remember to ignore all chinese shills. They often post paid twitter promos from random artists. It's all shilling, ignore it.

Recommended tablets:

>Screenless:
Used Intuos 3, 4, 5, Pro, One by Wacom

>Display:
Small (10-11"): Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 Lite
Medium (12-16"): Samsung Galaxy Tab S8/S9 Ultra, used iPad Pro 12.9" Gen 1-5
Large (22"+): Cintiq 22, Cintiq Pro 27

Avoid:

>XP-Pen, Huion, Gaomon and every other Chinese brand making Wacom imitations
Poor build quality, pens with wavy lines, wobbly nibs, broken tilt, issues registering light pressure, terrible customer support, uncalibrated displays. All Chinese brands have the same problems. Check out the webm to understand how bad they are.
Do not be fooled by myths like "Chink companies are just as good as Wacom now" - they've been saying this for over 10 years, nothing has changed.
Chinese companies have also been proven to shill on 4chan. You will see dozens upon dozens of posts in this thread by a chinese schizo shill, who will either be bitching about the OP, gaslighting as a Wacom fan, making pointless spam posts or giving terrible advice (like recommending Huion). Just ignore and report him.

>New iPads
Massively overpriced and overhyped.

>Microsoft Surface Pro
More optimized for palm rejection than good quality drawing. Wobbly lines when drawing slow and straight.

>Cintiq 13-16"
Completely outclassed by the Galaxy Tab Ultra & iPad

>Cintiq Pro 16, 24, 32
Overpriced, QC issues, loud fans, proprietary mount interface

>Lenovo
Worse than Samsung in every way.

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OP does not own a tablet nor does he draw.
If you actually use this thread to seek consumer related advice, you are literally retarded and deserve whatever dogshit schizophrenic drivel or obvious shill shit you are fed down your throat.
The majority of the posts you will see in these threads are just bumps to save the thread from falling off page 10 or just troll info.

Go ask in
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>>7770272
>OP does not own a tablet nor does he draw.
>If you actually use this thread to seek consumer related advice, you are literally retarded and deserve whatever dogshit schizophrenic drivel or obvious shill shit you are fed down your throat.
>The majority of the posts you will see in these threads are just bumps to save the thread from falling off page 10 or just troll info.
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>>7770272
t. Liu Zhao Bei
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>>7770290
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>s6 lite is fine
>price of a kamvas 13 pro
>which is bigger
>which has better stylus
>which has way better screen
rofl
lmao
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>look at all those posts I copied to compile this screenshot
再努力一点吧,同性恋。
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>>7770316
>Kamvas
All chinese tablets are cheaply made garbage. All of them are prone to failure, have non-existent support, line inconsistency, pressure inconsistency, nib wobble, non-existent calibration.
A Huion is not a valid alternative to a Samsung on any planet. It is a vastly inferior product and a reliability nightmare. A complete waste of space and money.

To anyone reading, avoid Huion and XP-Pen at all costs. Don't fall for the scam. They are genuinely awful pieces of trash, and destined for landfill.
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>>7770330
oh no, not the schizo again!
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>>7769856
okay I decided on getting a 11~12inch tablet
I'm between the Huion frego M and the HS611
supposedly the frego has a better pen but, does that really affects in any way or is it just snake oil?
I wonder about things the OP and >>7770330
say, is that really the case? I've never tried any other drawing tablet besides the one I have that was the cheapest huion I could find back in the day and I've been quite happy with it besides the size
attached pic is a quick scribble going from pressing soft to hard and stuff, no stabilization, no curve pressure, no nothing, be honest dudes, how bad is it?
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Are 'third party' pens worth the trouble for ipads?
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is a 27 inch monitor and wacom pro m screenless tablet a good match
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>>7770590
last time i checked them out about a year ago, they were all worse and had less features than the apple pencil.

>>7770727
it's fine but a large tablet would be better
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>>7770483
no its not, its the same fucking schizo for 10 years.
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I just want a good screen display/tablet that's in the 19-22 inch range preferably with a 16:10 or even 4:3 aspect ratio
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Inspiroy 2 L or Inspiroy 2 Dial?
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>>7771964
Also don't bother replying to me, nodraw /g/schizo
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Fellas I plan to wipe my PC clean and instal EndavourOS. How do Huion Tablets play with Linux? Will I have any kind of issue if I want to use Clip Studio?
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>>7772656
not sure about endavaourOS but if its a huion that was released last year or something should work out of the box, specially if on kde+wayland, not even driver required
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>>7772656
back in the day I was never able to get csp working on loonix, maybe things have changed since then, but no idea
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I like my ipad and i love procreate, simple as
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>>7772882
don't forget your Apple Pencil, king.
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>>7772656
Last I checked a year or two ago CSP was still pretty much unusable on Linux.
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there are scratches on the screen
there are scratches on the screen
there are scratches on the screen
there are scratches on the screen
there are scratches on the screen
there are scratches on the screen
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>finally found someone who could repair my wacom's usb port properly
we're so fucking back! The XP pen I used in the meantime was cheap and it did its job but a wacom is like driving a racing car in comparison
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>he's skinwalking as me
what the fuck
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Are there any display tablets that doesn't leave you glued to the wall outlets?
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>>7776162
if you have the right USB-C cable and USB-C port, some modern ones can power and display the screen at full brightness with one cable. some need 2 cables, 1 for data and an extra USB for full power & brightness, but no wall outlet.
https://docs.thesevenpens.com/drawtab/guides/connections-and-cabling/connecting-a-pen-display-with-one-usb-c-cable
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Can confirm that the Dell Canvas operates without issue on WIndows 11. For those who want a cheaper Wacom 27" you can get one used for very cheap since they don't make them anymore. It uses older Wacom tech, so universal Wacom pens will work with it no problem. Pair that with the Canvas' adjustable stand, external monitors, and a shortcut key remote, and you got an endgame setup.
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thank you shillbot
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Any thoughts on this for a first tablet? Anything I should be getting with a portable tablet besides a case for obvious reasons?
https://estore.wacom.com/en-us/wacom-movinkpad-11-dtha116cl0z.html
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>>7778165
I wouldnt recomend it, that APU is super slow.
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Huion 640p real rewiev from me:
https://files.catbox.moe/d396yg.png
test your tablet in krita by importing this brush
https://files.catbox.moe/mef4wi.bundle
pw100 self repair guide:
https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Huion+PW100++Hover+fix/140217
If thats information usefull for you, than cool
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How important/convenient are shortcut buttons on a screenless tablet? I can get a One by Wacom Medium (216 x 135 mm) for cheap but it has no buttons except the 2 on the pen.
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>>7778479
some people use them, other never do. No one will give you the answer fitting your workflow. I much prefer keyboard, or another separate device with keys.
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>>7778479
keyboard/key pad/remote control is way more convenient and ergonomic
none of the tablets have enough buttons and they are often placed in an awkward position.
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>>7774059
I installed a paperlike on my ipad and the scratches on it started to show day one. I assume it's just like, the downside of the texture
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>>7779410
Personally for my Ipad I've been using an 8bitdo, the stupid small one
No issues other than the shortcut I made for brush sizes in Procreate just not working. I assume it's a Procreate issue with the thing handling the specific keys in a way that the keyboard mode of the controler dooesn't do. For Clip Studio it just works and if it doesn't I can just go to the settings and change the shortcut
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I've been using screenless for two years and i still feel I haven't gotten used to it.
Or maybe im just bad at drawing, but it feels slippery and I can't really make proper lines with my hand.
I dont even know at this point.
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>>7779467
try a felt nib
tape paper to the surface for more friction
angle the tablet up for a more comfortable wrist angle
make sure "force proportions" settings in on
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>>7778473
what do you mean by hover?
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do i use srgb color space in my monitor settings
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>>7778479
keyboard is infinitely better for me it has more buttons, i tried switching to a 10 keys but it doesn't have enough buttons for my use case
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>>7779467
as the other anon said paper can help with stabilizing your line, another tips i can mention is to use stabilizer and rotate your canvas, some angles are just impossible to draw cleanly without rotating
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So wacom movinkpad 14 came, here is photo with my 13 inch ipad air m2. Screen - another league compared to air, much nicer colors, device feels super fast despite M2 wining in benchmarks due to faster refresh rate. Wacom pens feels somehow very cheap, apple pencil is heavier, with paperlike screen protector offers more feedback yet i had no problems with using wacom pen, almost immediately every line felt like i was using it for a week or two. Wish it had more resistance tho, tried switching nibs and there is 3 types included, almost no difference for my. i was worried about screen aspect ratio but its almost same height as ipad, with more width, more space for tools. Battery life looks to be ok, lack of fingerprint scanner is anoying, speakers are trash. And in Nomad sculpt touching screen with wacom pen crashes app
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>>7779572

i'm interested. can you move your files to a desktop and convert them to a psd? I don't really care for csp, i'm too used to photoshop.
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>>7779572
God I wish this was 4:3
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>>7779593
its stock android with few things from wacom, they seems to be balls deep into CSP so things like wacom app for drawing have CSP integration, also they gave you 1 year of CSP. It have stock android file system so you can transfer files where you want.
>>7779600
i think screen is sourced from samsung galaxy tab ultra series, same size, this width is perfect for me, i can get toolbar on left, small window with reference and have space for drawing, with ipad that small window with reference was too much for that screen size. But i have to admit, 4:3 with 15inch would be nice
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>>7779572
too expensive for something that's going to last 3 years
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What's a good brand of screen protectors for tablets? And are matte surfaces just a preference?
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any recs for screenless pads with tilt?
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>>7779545
pen "hovering" - pen draw itself after you end drawing line. Its common issue with pw100 pen and other non wacom tech pens; my broke after 1 month of usage, so im struggle with it until self repair.

Demonstarion of issue (non my): https://m.youtube.com/shorts/A8p8Uhb3MSU

Also its soo anoying what all tablet reviews soo shilled everywhere, find real one its almost impossible all nuances is silenced like:
"surface is paper like" - buy 30Db earmuffs and 100+ plastic tips lol (you can beat that jewish move with separate surface or polyester glass surface/a4 sheet)

"compact pen" - pen too thin, hello RSI

tails at end of strokes, whach closelly how he draw line 7:00-7:10 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WXvc_GneF3A&pp=ygULZ2FvbW9uIG0xMGs%3D
- fucked presure sensitivity + guaranted diagonal woobles

"cool desing 10+99999 buttons" - there is no good points so here some uselles buttons for you, goy

"10-45 degree tablet angle" - hello RSI (like in new wacom intuios or whatever 2025

"usb-c in on top of tablet" - easy to broke

"you can configure pressure curve 4 yourself" - fucked pressure curve, hello RSI

bad polyester surface (hello xencelabs aka UGEE for 200$) - another planned obsolence, use polyester sheet
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>>7779838
You can use transparent plastic glass (PMMA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poly(methyl_methacrylate) that Walmart or any other store uses for holding paper price tags, (you can glue with electrical tape or glue) OR use official one / transparent screen protector for tablets (be aware if texture of tablet is "paper like" sceen protector will not be glued (!))
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Huion and XPPEN is gonna dab on Wacom, time is ticking niggers.
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>>7781693
2 more weeks
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>>7781693
you can't really trust the stats they give, we'll see if they actually get tested.
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Is the wacum slurper still here.
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should i get an ipad or a display tablet
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wacoom 12wx is the best tablet dont listen to any pajeet telling you otherwise
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I'm a /beg/ and I'm curious if the difference between wacom and one of the cheap chinese tablets like huion is something I'll even notice.
Also a linux user(mint) so I'm trying to ensure any tablet I get will play nice, and I've seen people say huion just works fine out of the box
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>>7770114
i’m using an Intuos Pro that i recently bought sealed (it was cheap and it’s the 2017 version)

i absolutely love this thing and drawing on it is the best, coming from an 2022 iPad Pro

but holy fuck, it is EATING my nibs like crazy

after one evening there is already a flat spot and i’ve used up half of the replacements in two months

is this normal? i’m trying to have a very light touch, but when painting it’s kinda hard to keep it low when you’re working with pressure
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meds
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>>7784199
huion and xp pen worked on linux just fine, driver app was working, never tried wacom on linux. As for drawing exp there is something about wacom pen and glass treatment that huion and xp pen could not replicate, its just slighlty more enjoyable to use. My xp pen artist 14 had slight problems with pointer offset when pen was tilted, and presusre despite 16k resolution wasnt that nice, i had to press really hard to get thick lane, not a big deal, i could just tweak global pressure curve in xp pen driver. Huion was better but entire screen went pink for some reason. I u want cheap you cant go wrong with xppen or huion but wacom is still one step higher
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>>7784199
unless you are super autistic or a top tier artist, then you wont notice.
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>>7784246
yeah it's normal because they switched to soft plastic nibs so they wear down faster. (to sell more nibs)
once the surface texture wears down a bit, the nibs don't wear down as fast.
lots of artists adjust the maximum on their pressure curve in wacom settings so they don't have to press that hard to get max pressure.
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I bought a huion and i like it so far. But for some tasks i would still like to use my intuos 3.
Is it possible to use both at the same time?
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>>7784672
You have both, why don't you just try?
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I was looking at a medium wacom pro
Does the fact that it seemingly only connects through bluetooth lead to problems? I'm a bit untrusting of stuff that requires fine precision being wireless
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>>7784672
two different brands can have conflicts with the drivers, might be a bit buggy.

>>7785121
you can plug it in
modern bluetooth stuff isn't that bad but there is a tiny delay
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Is there a reason to seek the Tab S6 Lite over any later models, or is it just something that OP has never changed?
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Intuos 3 is more sensitive, compared to screen huion . Together with a crisper screen, i think its a little bit better for the final touches.
But a somewhat bigger problem with intuos 3 is the initial activation force, thats pretty high. And the pen is trash. I have already tried to fix the loose nib, and it got a little bit better, but still. I guess the plastic of the body deteriorated and got soft, the whole body is now flexing.

There is no new pen that would work with the old tablet, right?

Im thinking about buying something newer.
Intuos 4 XXL, 60-100 euros on ebay. Does it make sense to buy one?
>>7784978
>>7785159
It works, so far without bugs.
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why tf does my screenless tablet have coil whine? Its very distracting.
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>>7785679
its screaming in pain
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>>7785753
How do i make it shut up? The pitch of the whine changes when the pen is in the sensing range and when the buttons on the tablet are pressed. What is going on here?
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>>7785798
this is what u get for cheaping out and buying chinese trash
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i have a screenless intuos pro m for my daily use and have no problem whatsoever. now i am considering getting an ipad so that i can draw when im outside, but i rarely go outside unless i have to is it still worth it? or should i get a display tablet instead
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>>7787711
depends
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>>7787735
i havent graduated yet but ill probably do an office indoor type job so i thought i can maybe grind during breaks or something with ipad
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>>7787738
why not
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Anon with the Kamvas 13 gen3.
Turns out the drawing after lifting issue was due to the nib.
I swapped it for another and it has been working proper since then without having to increase minimum pressure cutoff.
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>be me
>love my pth-660 like you wouldnt believe
>have some extra bucks
>decide to get an ipad air cause why not
>love it so much its unreal

brehs....
legit considering getting a pro, not gonna lie
sculpting and drawing (nomad and procreate) feels so good compared to the desktop (zbrush and csp) its almost unreal
legit considering ditching the pc completely, am I being incredibly retarded?
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does it not get tiring literally talking to yourself for weeks on end
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I am new to this general, and I had a star 05 drawing tablet that I sold... But now I want a new drawing tablet, I am too cheap for screens am I am used to a screenless one anyways

Should I wait till Black Friday to see if I can get a deal on an Intuos 4 tablet somewhere online, or should I just by one now on ebay for around $60?
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>>7789139
no
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I’d like a standalone screen tablet. On the other hand, I really prefer desktop-first programs as opposed to oversimplified mobile apps. To me this means I’d prefer to use Krita over Procreate, and that probably includes a shortcut remote. Is that a stupid ask? What are my best options, maybe a samsung galaxy with bluetooth xppen remote?
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I own a screenless tablet but Im thinking of upgrading to a screen one.
Whats a good option to jump to? I already work a 2k resolution if that has anything to do with it.
Im looking for something midly big or at least on the bigger side, I currently draw on an XP Deco Pro MW for reference.
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>>7791828
does that one feel small?
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>>7792541
Not really its pretty spacious all things considered.
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>>7785240
It works excellently as a way to sketch out a quick drawing that I will then transfer over to my computer and work on properly, but I wouldn't use it for serious work. It gets laggy on Infinite Paint after even just a few layers and a few open apps. It might be time to retire it from the list, or keep it with an asterisk.
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>>7792598
That's why I asked; I was wondering if it could be a newer Lite model or if the recommended S6 Lite was chosen specifically for some reason.

If so, I might look around for an old iPad Pro instead.
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I can buy a used Cintiq 16 for 180 bucks, is it worth it?
Its the 2019 version I think
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I bought a wacom intuos s but I didn't realize it was this small. It's quite a bit smaller than my last tablet. It's too late to return it but I think I still might buy a larger sized tablet
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>>7770114

Got a bad sciatica and need a portable tablet for art. Budget is limited. inb4 chingchong brand. I don't care I'm broke and I'm in pain.

Redmi pad 2 pro 6GB vs Samsung S6 lite 2024 4GB
Redmi smart pen vs Samsung S pen
Snapdragon 7s Gen 4 vs Exynos 1280

Currently on sale in my area same price. help me choose. Is the S pen worth it?
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>>7793702
movink or mdp would be best I guess
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>>7789740
I have an s10 FE and mostly use krita. I just have a cheap AAA powered bluetooth keyboard and mouse i keep in my backpack with it. I'd recommend that as there are some weird little UI quirks that are borderline impossible/super annoying to do with touch only
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>>7770272
>OP does not own a tablet nor does he draw.
>posts ai slop
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>>7794057
Yes, that is OPs generated slop from last year.
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>>7793455
someone???
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>>7794380
ofc itz steal 4 that price, but be sure glass is not fucked, pen workz fine and there is no graphical issues (weird colors, no img etc) ,
BTE, new one 459 pen 2 or 650 pen 3
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Should I buy this Intuos tablet from Ebay? I once got scammed there buying a car roof edge strip, and it wasn't the right size and I couldn't refund it.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/389183548307

The reviews on it are kinda suspicious.
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>>7794067
[citation needed]
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>>7794016
nta but would you recommend s10fe? im looking for a portable tablet too
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>>7798063
Yeah I really like it, the only major downside I've noticed is the usb-c port is usb 2.0, so it can't do wired video out.
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Wacom is fucking ass you fags lied to me



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