I have been successfully demoralized by the rise of AI. Not in the sense of believing that it's gonna make artists obsolete, I moreso care about the huge decline in the quality of the internet, with good things being drowned in an ocean of shit. How does one regain his drive and inspiration amidst such creatively challenging times?
>>7772496i dont know until i make more i want to see more of it doesnt exist to me so ill keep drawing
>>7772496You stop caring about the mainstream, duh.If all you do is exist in the popular zones, where every sociopath is trying to sell his feces to the masses who gladly eat it up, then of course you will think the world smells like shit.The internet WAS a haven for outcasts overall, but now it's so big (and effectively infinite in size, with 0 travel cost - unlike irl) that there's a proportionally bigger set of normies and sociopaths here than there used to be. So just go to the areas full of outcasts.Hey, you're in one!
>>7772524You'd have to be a fool or liar to think 4chan is a place for outcasts./ic/ in particular is normalfag central. Full of gossiping foids from other sites.
>>7772524Outcasts more often than not are spergs who aren't that much different from faggots on kiwifarms. The kind of outcasts that are healthy in the head but just keep to themselves are not here.
>>7772496Draw stuff you like that makes you happy
>>7772496Eh its the same as it ever was content-wise at least. If it wasn't AI flooding YouTube for example it be some other type of SpidermanElsa video trend shitting over the algorithm. It's the same fight we've been fighting except this time people are even more aware how it's being almost entirely flooded by Indian scammers, so if anything this time around we get more people hating this shit from the get go, but boomers will still be none the wiser. Same as it ever was(just a little worse)
>>7772496it should not break you, but strengthen your resolve
>>7772496You might take solace in knowing that thinking that AI would destroy art means that you’re living with your head up your ass, and are therefore wrong.Why don’t you go to the real world, try selling some art, make a business out of it, and see how long you’re able to participate in society.
Realize that even before Ai the internet was mostly bots. Ai only made it ten times more obvious. Those communities who care about your drawings are still there. I have a Patreon that has been more active than ever probably because artists are quitting left and right. Just filter it.
>>7772535they are here as well. 4chan is watered down now, tho. I unironically blame women, but there's other factors, too.
>>7772496i draw an generate ai art. both are useful skills to have. learning to how to draw and prompt will easily put you ahead of all the people who can't do either. using prompts to strengthen your drawing, and using drawing to strengthen your prompts. you should stop being a faggot and learn to do both or else you'll be left behind in the upcoming generation.
>>7772947pyw
>>7772949
>>7772947>learning to prompt will easily put you ahead of all the people who can't All of the boomers I know say this but all of them are poor and struggling and still working hard at age 65 with nothing much to show for it other than maybe a few hundred K in retirement that was earned doing their career not with AI. It’s all just shilling and speculation and novelty. I’m not even anti-AI. I just can see that you need an actual skill for AI to boost or you just end up as a scammer generating mountains of garbage since you can’t make anything of value even with AI. So learning to prompt will not put you ahead of anyone unless your other skills were already putting you ahead
>>7772947You're like a boomer accountant I know who kept yapping about robots replacing production lines based off the newspaper he read about, whereas I actually work with robots and they're still a ton of effort to get up and running to get that 0.1% downtime.And learn2prompt is literally like asking someone to learn to use levels correction in Photoshop. Not Photoshop as a whole, just ctrl+shift+u and adjust the curve levels.
If everyone stops posting art on the internet for a few months, the AIs will train on their own images and generate worse models until it becomes a sloppy mess thus destroying AI forever.
>>7772496>my love for drawing with be obsoletenah
gpt clutches me for my day job honestly
>>7772496meet irl artchads and form a collective or cult perhaps
>>7772947How does somebody get good at prompting? Is it like getting good at ordering pizza over the phone or how you want your barber to cut your hair.
>>7772496People shared art before the internet. It was actually better because nascent styles and art forms could develop within small groups of dedicated artists before the world discovered them. Now anything with potential is immediately consumed and regurgitated endlessly as it's made palatable for global consumption.
I find things I don't like just as inspiring, there's more reason to make what you want to see
>>7772947>retard thinks anybody wants to see his gay denoiser images or his most likely shit tier tranime artlmao die in a fire
>>7772974>>7773034Look at it this way. Someone that knows how to draw and prompt is like the equivalent of someone with talent that works hard. You already have the advantage from knowing art fundamentals, so learning to correct the mistakes and bashing Ai gens into your work will only turn you from a good artist to a greater artist. You don't want to end up like those people that refuse to use 3d models in any way, not know a thing about blender, and are struggling with a ruler for 10 hours wondering why their perspective is off. Those who blame the tools don't know how to use them.
>it took me my entire life to learn how to draw a shitty barely symmetrical anime face>AI can do it in 2 secondshow am I not supposed to be demoralized? I'm no better at faces than I was when I was ten, and I drew almost every single day for years.
Most people don't care about ai. In fact there’s a growing dislike toward it. Jeets are unbelievably envious of your abilities and you shouldn't fall for their attempts to demoralize you.Businesses were never your friends and it doesn’t matter whether they use AI or human art. The professional art industry has been in decline for decades. We can’t all be drawing Magic cards or working as concept artists for major game studios. There were no jobs even before ai.Being a hobbyist who earns money directly from fans through Patreon and commissions has been the best option for a long time. Those who support artists are just as anti-ai as you are.
how come the discourse is the exact same as it was in 2022
>>7772947its always the retards who lack the skills and gave up in the end of beg or start of int and rely on AI as a crutch thinking that touching up a 99% passable image is your own skill
>>7772496Normalfags are extremely weird creatures that hold everyone back. I hope the Meteor hits India and the debris hits normalfags, put them out of their misery
.this is the worst time to be an artist in history imo. im jealous of people who got to grow up with DA and newgrounds from the 2000s-early 2010s. best time to be an online artist. nowadays we dont even have a real dedicated site for art we just kinda have to make do with twitter or instagram or god forbid tiktok
most of the time i try to push it out of my mind. nothin i can do about it, might as well move forward
>>7772529tbf the internet in general is kinda just like that now. id say 4chan is on the more fringe side of the mainstream internet, more outcasty than twitter, but still full of normies just by proxy of the fact the internet is no longer a niche nerdy place and hasnt been for a while
>>7773746>.this is the worst time to be an artist in history imo>Drawing is bigger than ever>Even turbo dogshit artists get exposure thanks to X are you ok? retard? Retard are you ok? Are you ok retard? SHAMONEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>7773762>more popular =/= good>most artists ive seen get big only get big either cuz theyve been around a long time, do porn, follow trends, do fan art, or create a meme. other than that you gotta get lucky
>>7773746we do if you ignore the "real" part. there's cara, artstation, toyhouse, and a bunch of other even smaller sites
>>7773778theyre small, but thats kinda part of the point. all the art sites these days are either for pro artists to post portfolios (artstation) or too small to grow an audience beyond like 10 people on. not that attention is the end goal, but it helps
>>7773307Most prooomptcels don't know much past img2img and figuring out booru tags, and then maybe a little but of controlnet so egh don't put yourself too high up the pedestal anon.
>>7773307weird but honestly understandable argument
>>7773767>it's deadbut it's bigger than ever>POPULAR ISNT GOODare you ok fucking retard? Are you actually ok? Are you able to think for yourself? you fucking mong?
>>7772496I spent a month learning it, it's only good for slop. Gen AI is a nothing burger.
>>7773812i realize ive been baited
>>7773816for true, Ai is for the most part still used for memes like it was at the beginning. ofc this could change, but AIs biggest flaw rn, and i hope forever, is that you cant really control what it makes no matter how specific your prompt is
>>7772947promting isn't a skill, and your art probably sucks too
>>7773658Almost all of them don't have a pelvis, and the white haired ones a futa
>>7772496>good things being drowned in an ocean of shit.I already abandoned posting art on the internet years ago because of porn. AI doesn't really change anything. Since the 2010s it's all been porn porn porn. Unless you were popular before the mainstream internet era there was no point sharing work unless it was porn fanart of the latest shit that got popular. I don't know how anyone can feel demoralized by AI when porn had already done what AI is doing right now a decade earlier. And don't give me this stupid shit that porn is art or creative cause big ass in your face #2846726 is fucking shit and AIslop isn't any worse. The only people I imagine would be demoralized by AI right now are aspiring porn peddlers who feel like they'll have a hard time making money with /beg/ drawings of big ass in your face now that there's plenty of slop for that.
>>7773988Plenty of people would rather fap to beg scribbles than 1girl masterpiece highest_quality slop. Ai is extremely samey. It gets old after a while.
>>7772496>I moreso care about the huge decline in the quality of the internet, with good things being drowned in an ocean of shit.People have been saying that about all forms of online self-publishing for years.
>>7772496The best non-AI stuff is still better than the best AI stuff, and if/when that's no longer true, then I guess that's just the way she goes.
>>7772496Just keep trying, the more artists who don't give up, the more hold we retain of the net.Eventually someone will be fed up enough to create smaller niche communities the way it was back then, and that'll be your chance to shine.
>>7772647SpidermanElsa was designed for actual toddlers with IPad to watch. It was not trying to steal mature audiences like AI.
>>7774102Best AI stuff will never be better then best non AI stuff because art requires individual taste and cannot really be quantified like how well code is running or how correct X is compared to Y, so you cannot create machine that maximises those. All the best AI art out there is building a model that copies somebody’s popular artstyle and then is combined with style of someone else.
Still, to this day and after all the advancements, AI is only good for porn. I save a lot of AI porn. For art, it's like an Easy-Bake Oven. It doesn't satisfy the conditions - neither the creative impulse nor the spiritual need to view art. Am I coping? Post some AI from your inspiration folder that isn't porn. Do you even have an inspiration folder with AI in it?The fact is, most art called "art" before AI ever existed was trash. There isn't some special human quality that can elevate even the meagerest efforts above the machine made - you make trash, you're a trash peddler. I saw so much useless trash on the internet before AI. AI is "replacing" a lot of fucking trash, and not even really that well unfortunately, because people are still making more of the same trash instead of taking the hint.
>>7774164no offense but i think once you start getting into the ai porn shit youre at a level of gooning thats prolly getting bad
>>7774058simpler art styles>highly detailed uncanny ai slop
>>7774169I don't make it. I see it around and I save it. Everybody jacks off, and AI is good for that. The moral panic around it replacing artists is stupid because it's not capable of making art, it's only good at imitating actual human cultural waste product. That's why there's an AI "style," because it apes the lowest common denominator of the lowest common denominator so frequently that it becomes recognizable as a style unto itself.
>>7774159>cannot really be quantifiedI think it can, but also you don't need to do that, just have the human do that part.
>>7774164>AI is only good for pornIt really isn't though.
>>7774200>I only masturbate to illustrations drawn by menok anon
>>7774164You probably think real art is either some 200 year old painting that AI can do better then drawing boobies, or you think it’s gluing bananas on walls. Post real art so we can show you how AI can do it as well if not better then making porn.
>anime OP>nodraw & obvious bait>retards still reply to itevery single time
>>7774288You're a retarded beg lol
>>7772496if 80% of the population consumes mindless poop shit music does that mean you should stop making good music,Standards and quality has been on the decline in attempts to capitalize and turn every industry into a fast food drive through, If you have some personal goal to play an instrument or attains some artistic competency, then why would you care what other people are doing with their dogshit life.
>>7774841>just work hard for FREEEEEE do it for MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEI quit socmed when I saw porn scribbles getting 9999 likes and everyone sucking the dick of the "artist". It feels so much better to keep my shit to myself.>hurrr you want the attentionThe attention whores are the porn fags. People love porn slop and attention whores. I didn't pick up art to draw big prolapsed asshole #75379 and I'm not an attention whore so explain to me why the absolute fuck would I need to "share" my work when the only thing I'd contribute to is that there's always a faggot who'll keep making le soul shit when thirdie whores get easy money and 3000 times the attention. It's just cuck shit. You're literally just a cuck. It's the art equivalent of being the nerdy guy who gets bullied and gets zero pussy in his teens so he studies and studies and invents a cure for cancer aka a fucking cuck serf, instead of going to work for Google and making the most jewish shit possible to worsen eveyone's life. Fuck this shit I love entropy. People who really love art should just post AI porn and demoralize the faggots who still try (it's not like there are any left).
>>7772496If the joy in art for you lies only in the cash flow then just go sell insurance or something. Less hassle, better money. Everyone who enjoys drawing will keep drawing no matter the absolute state of the industry.
>>7775123Why does someone need to post the shit he makes, though, isn't that an attention whore? When someone says "I don't post" you people always parse "I don't draw". Why is that? Isn't that a bit of a normie take that if you don't post it on gay social media then you don't do a thing?It's so funny that literally all the people who say this tired shit that you should make art for le yourself all make the same lapse in reading post = draw and draw = post, why do you assume that if you do not post shit online then you don't draw, or that if you draw then you post shit online?And why the fuck do you always seethe so hard when someone says he checked out? I enjoy that every single fucking time I get the same answers "flower pots" or "bald floating heads" and other faggot assumptions, all from people who worship shit porn artists with 0 creativity making cringe nigger shit with garbage "humor" tacked on. Fucking braindead.If you people claim that it isn't money that should drive your art, then why do you want people to keep posting art online and share it? Aren't those people then motivated by sharing the art, what is that, some kind of showoff thing? Isn't that a little bit of cognitive dissonance, especially when you all throat the cock of every spic nigger drawing /beg/ trendhop porn, 100% attention whoring the fuck out of their faggot social media with 300 tranny flags in it, but somehow when someone who isn't an artist wants to check out of this shitty environment then HE is the attention whore and not le real artist. Aren't you fucking cute when you do this.Fuck you hypocrite niggers I hope AI drowns everything and makes it impossible to even exist online.
>>7775160worst most obvious attempt at trolling ever go back to the sharty and finish your homework dawg
>uR JuSt a TrOlLAnswer my post you nigger. It's true. There is absolutely no fucking reason to share anything unless you want to grift, steal and cheat and make money from retarded niggers. This is the state of things, it's just how it is. If you want things to be any different then maybe people should stop fucking chocking on grifter cock all fucking day and start giving some value to shit that isn't a fucking cash grab. I fucking hate the public, I fucking hate people, you deserve fucking nothing, I can't wait for all your freedoms to be stripped from you so you can finally live like the fucking cattle niggers you all are. Fuck every naive piece of shit who "shares" and endures all this fucking shit grifter world and this ocean of mongoloid simps because of retarded cuck conditioning and nothing else. There is NO other reason to do any good and put any effort, there never was. I can't wait till everything will be a fucking transaction and there won't be a fucking genuine thing still mistakenly happening in this shit society, that's the world you fucking deserve.
>BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPPP HERE'S A BIG ASSHOLE IN YOUR FACE #2304852387542337485 DRAWN LIKE SHIT BUT OOGA BOOGA MONKEY NEURON>OMG IMGONNACOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMM YOU'RE THE BEST *GOBBLE GOBBLE GOBBLE* HERE'S 94086245096824096284353 LIKES AND MONTHLY PATREON MONEYYY CAN YOU PLEASE DRAW ANOTHER PROLAPSED ASSHOLE EXACTLY LIKE THE PREVIOUS ONE YOU ARE A TRUE ARTIST I LOVE YOU *GOBBLE GOBBLE GOBBLE GOBBLE GOBBLE* OH IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING YOUR THIRDIE INCOME IS THREATENED BY AI SLOP THAT CAN DO EXACTLY THE SAME SOULLESS PROLAPSED ASSHOLES IN 1 SECOND BECAUSE THAT'S JUST HOW MUCH OF A SOULLESS FAGGOT IT TAKES TO DO THIS??? PLEASE HAVE EVEN MORE MONEY I AM SO FUCKING SIMPING FOR YOU BUTTSHIT69 MY BROWN HERO LET ME SUCK YOUR DICK PLEASEEE PLEASEEEEE PLEASE LET ME THROAT YOUR COCK *GOBBLE GOBBLE GOBBLE* I CAN'T GET ENOUGH OF SHITTY PROLAPSED ASSHOLES THIS IS REAL ART I LOVE YOU SO REFINED AND TASTEFUL I LOVE YOUR ARTBut hey please post whatever shit you're doing lol it's nice to get some free stuff while I wait for spic niggers to draw me more low effort porn
>>7775253pyw
>>7775261pay me nigger
oh wait wait wait let me post it before you do>hurrrrr ur /beg/ ur art be bad it be boring still life and bald head if u want likes then ur not a real artist HURRRRR DURRRRRnow you can go back to choking on pornfaggot cock even faster, are you happyI fucking hate you fucking niggers so fucking much
lol you don't even drawhow can you be demoralized about something you don't do
>>7775160>>7775253lol this schizo has been so mind broken and demoralized by AI. This is the type of low IQ crab to seethe when he sees other people making money from art, all while being convinced that he's so smart and it's everyone else keeping him down.
>>7775367I love AI you stupid illiterate nigger dumb fuck ape. I can't fix your retarded faggot brain so read twice before you post you stupid cocksucker son of a whore.
>>7775383ya right keep seething you brainless schizo
>>7775392If you can't read then plug that shithole you've got for a mouth, you worthless braindead nigger. I know you're not trying to bait me, you're genuinely that much of a dumb faggot and you're assblasted cause I took a shit on your subspecies of nigger cattle. That's all you could parse from my post. Fuck you and remember I'll have the last laugh when AI will make the internet unusable. Fucking choke on slop, nigger.
>>7775401Keep seething retard, it feels good for the rest of us to watch such an obnoxious narcissistic mongoloid suffer.
>>7775426>it feels good for the rest of us to watchthat's all you porncucks ever do lol suck my dick faggot
>>7775431Don't care seethe retard
>>7775449Thanks for the (you)s and I accept your concession, you can go back to sucking off your favorite porn peddling thirdie spic now
