i am myself i am a beginner artist and pretty terrible one maybe i will never improve and give up but this not what i came to talk about rather i want to know about thiswhat goes in mind of NSFW artist see for example a cute fictional girl and immediately draw porn of her and specially utter disgusting porn like BLACKED,NTR,Futa shit and or turn the cute fictional girl into a completely different character that at point is just some bimbo slut with big breasts who heavily resembles her nothing else nothing more elseI don't get it for you to do this for money or for your pleasure or just the joy of ruining something?Imagine having the ability to make anything, yet you make slop such as this. At this point, your art is not art at all it is at the same as Aislop.It has no value. I don't think every single NSFW Artist or Artist that drew porn is the spawn of Satan, but the majority, like 99% percent, of them, are utter garbage.
The other thing I have noticed is that the majority of people who consume this stuff do not respect NSFW artists.If your art is locked behind a paywell, some guy will leak it on kemonoparty or something or feed it to AI.How do you deal with this fact? Sure, if you take commissions from these people they will give you money but most of them don't respect you at all and only view you as a means to an end....The point also is the natural consequences of Rule 34. The consumers want instant gratification, but they lack talent to create, and so they use AI to make garbage for them but if they had the money to pay somebody else to make it or had the talent to make that garbage themselfs.
>>7775497NSFW art corruption is the same as porn addiction. You start with tame vanilla shit, but at some point you become so desensitized to it you have to dig deeper into more depraved shit. That's how every coom artists always ends up drawing nig ntr, futa, gigantic ass and tits, or gay shit.>>7775517All art gets leaked, it's not exclusive to NSFW.
>>7775529to be fair not all NSFW artist end up with the same fate some stay mostly normal but some and most of them do sadly go off the deep end like you said>>7775529not all art get leaked while like if you are popular yes and even if you are bit obscure there is chance some fuckass is gonna reposted your stuff on kemono party but some obscure ones can avoid this specially japanese artists
>>7775497Imho, it's just a symptom of society being desperate and miserable.
>>7775517You have it wrong. Most of the audience of porn artists respects them. However porn artists are one of the few artists who attract people who don’t respect them which opens doors to their stuff being leaked. If everyone disrespected them they would have almost no Patreon backers.>>7775529>Deprived shit like ntr, futa, gigantic tits and gay shitThis is shit that gooners start with in puberty and then stay that way. There is no gradual desensitisation, you are either into this shit or not.
>>7776176>You have it wrong. Most of the audience of porn artists respects them. However porn artists are one of the few artists who attract people who don’t respect them which opens doors to their stuff being leaked. If everyone disrespected them they would have almost no Patreon backers.you have point>This is shit that gooners start with in puberty and then stay that way. There is no gradual desensitisation, you are either into this shit or not.that also pretty debatable some do go off a deep end
>>7775497Some people have fetishes you dislike, yes, but it doesn't mean it's disgusting to to them. I don't feel like most artists intend to "ruin" characters, it's just your perspective and inherent distaste of the subject matter. I'd say they actually care about them, even more than regular fans do, and they wouldn't draw them otherwise. Although I don't get the more extreme fetishes, to me getting such fanart would be the coolest shit. This just lets you know that you nailed your character and succeeded in making people care about them. Try taking this perspective. Noone draws something out of spite for the subject.
>>7775497Spiritually they’re on a higher level than you. I’M on a higher level than you.If you want to get it then you have to stop being an NPC, that’s pretty much all there is to it.
The joke is porn and race to be the first on R34. Do you believe nsfw artists are permanently horny and maintain an erection for the 3-8 hours it takes to finish a drawing?Imagine having the ability to make anything, yet you make shit nobody not even yourself cares about. The internet was made for porn.
>>7776310>Noone draws something out of spite for the subject.Yes they do>>7776331>Spiritually they’re on a higher level than you. I’M on a higher level than you.>If you want to get it then you have to stop being an NPC, that’s pretty much all there is to it.subhuman defending subhuman garbage as usual from the den of degeneracy know as 4chan>>7776372>Do you believe nsfw artists are permanently horny and maintain an erection for the 3-8 hours it takes to finish a drawing?no>The internet was made for porn.fuck off with this meme
>>7775497you really should chill.I draw whatever I like.>value
>>7776417>den of degeneracy know as 4chanjust leave
>>7776424>you really should chill.>I draw whatever I like.do you draw a nigger raping a underage corpse of a child?>>7776426>just leavewill do i rarely come here
>>7775497>It has no valueThat's why you will never be remembered.Value is personal, if you don't have a vision, no one will follow along and share it with you.Nsfw art, from the tamest nip slip to the most hardcore orgy-gangbangs speaks to our reptilian brain, our oldest neural structures, if you don't respect the craft you will keep wallowing in shit.Good luck, you are entitled to your own opinion, just know it is one of the many things holding you back from improving.
>>7775497I see cowards not posting their work...>disgusting porn like BLACKED,NTR,Futa.I like NTR because for most things it's fanfiction, seeing a character do something that you'd usually never see, For most anime series they'll tease a romantic relationship with the main character but it never happens. NTR, and Netori is a quick way to see dynamic, and i'd assume that most readers self insert as the bull and not the weak main character.I don't know about black or futa but those are probably illustrated by south east Asians that have never met a black person or a trans..>Money or pleasure or joy of ruining.I do it for money because i enjoy making things and buying videogames. When people put money into your projects is shows to others that it's quality. but unfortunately people don't care about what I'm making so i don't earn my 4$ anymore..>ruining something.I believe in mutual respect. i respect other peoples creations. But a Intellectual Property like Nintendo Pokémon does not deserve your respect.>Paywall-Leaks-AiSlop.My stuff is not leaked. And i think that people respect me enough not to leak. In my terms i state that i'll have no problems, quitting, nuking, and abandoning if i find my stuff leaked online.I have no problems with abandoning websites that I've established and moving on with my life.Aislop... I think i'm somewhat of a creative person so i think i mostly avoid the slop comments.>Means to and end.i think I'm more of a means to a beginning since i never finish my shit. lol.>consequences of Rule34.um. hmm. i don't know what this implies but nobody uploads my work anymore. so i upload it myself in worst quality with jpeg artifacts. And heavily censored since while uploading those i reside in Japan. Occasionally I'll travel to my other residence if i want to upload uncensored works, it's very stressful plz understand.
Can i get some critique on my versus screen plz. i need to know now before i move onto the coding.
>>7776503>That's why you will never be remembered.neither you buddy>Nsfw art, from the tamest nip slip to the most hardcore orgy-gangbangs speaks to our reptilian brain, our oldest neural structures, if you don't respect the craft you will keep wallowing in shit.listen a drawing of underage girl being raped to death by fucking NIGGER is bad okay?
>>7776504Finally, an actual NSFW artistHonestly, you seem to be an alright guy from what I can tell.>>7776508As quite a person who is quite bad at art, if you are able to draw an anime girl decently, I suppose you are fine.>>7776504>I don't know about black or futa but those are probably illustrated by south east Asians that have never met a black person or a trans..Futa is quite popular and plenty of Japanese NSFW artists draw that stuff, as with BLACKED. Some Japanese people do make that stuff, sadly, but it is a fetish that is mostly popular in the west or other places in Asia, such as Korea.>consequences of Rule34.>um. hmm. i don't know what this implies.I am Serbian and quite terrible at English and here is what I truly meant to say.In short, rule 34 is an internet meme that states that if it exists, there is porn in it and people take this shit very seriously.For example, there is some guy right now possibly begging in some thread on /h/ for someone to draw porn of some obscure anime girl. If they get someone to fulfill their shitty request, they either give up or try AI to generate some slop to go to it.Another example is the rule 34 site. It allows AI and regularly enjoys stealing art, yet most NSFW artists use the Steam of pornography. Although quite shitty it reminds me of Steam Greenlight.This also applies to Booru sites, though most of them just archive anime art from Pixiv, and elsewhere, you know such Danbooru and Gelbooru, though there is still plenty of porn on it.
>>7776504The point is, the majority of gooners view what you create as simple material for them to go over. Sure do respect it and view it as art, but the majority are not like this and rule 34 the site proves my point.And the other thing is that some guy did something to piss me off, and it was related to pornography and made me fucking break several windows in my apartment, and now I have to sleep fucking cold for god fucking sake, so I just wanted to know what goes on in the minds of these fucking people.
>>7776552>If they get someone to fulfill their shitty request,IF THEY DONT GET SOMEONE TO FUFILL THEIR FUCKING REQUEST
>>7776554You have to realize that most people online are "casuals". and they'll never think about the creation process or the vibes of artwork. Anyways, who pissed you off and why did you break your windows in your apartment?
>>7776554Some do it because they think it's fun, others because it's their fetish, others because they want to be edgy, and others because they simply want money.There isn't just one answer, it mostly depends on who you ask.
>>7775497people arent the same, they do things for different reasons for their different desires and goals.regarding the drawing that made you seethe, one reason people would make it is to be edgy and piss people off, like it happened to you. Early Shadman being a very good example
>>7775497>the joy of ruining somethingNothing is ruined this way. Not unless it is vandalized. Same retarded argument as bad new movies "ruining" old ones. No it fucking doesn't.
>>7776580>>7776580>Anyways, who pissed you off and why did you break your windows in your apartment?does not matter should have not said personal stuff on here but it was fucked up porn >>7776665>>7776848i suppose it has to do with the current degenerate culture so it make sense i guess....an person who can draw can easily piss off using their artskills sadly>>7776990Popularity ruins plenty of things by assosication. Total obscurity is also a bad thing, but popularity completely fucking destroys things. As an autistic person, I don't think I can like popular things or want my interest such as my favourite manga and video games to become popular, because I know some degenerate people will immediately think about drawing some fucked up shit of my favorite characters solely because they need do nothing moreThe creator of fundamental paper education is a golden example of popularity ruining a thing she gave up once she realized it got too popular and she left the internet.I suppose as an artist, you need some popularity for your work, but a massive amount of popularity is a death sentence, unless you can handle all the pain that comes with success, like Dafuqboom or GLITCH studios.In short, I don't want normalfags taking my interests and things I deeply care about and ruined by these subhumans. Oh, I want to see this character get mutilated, shitted on and fucked by a subhuman nigger because someone commissioned this no thanks i want to remain all mine like it should
To be fair, even obscure things have porn most of time. They are not just posted on garbage sites like rule 34. Instead, it is on Pixiv or elsewhere. I think most people would view my thinking as deragned or not understand it. But it's not just porn, but other stuff: people mischaracterizing the characters or people making dumb essays or talentless hacks generate porn because they cant draw it of my interests. I don't want this to happen it's just horrible taking something I care about ruining it.
OP is somewhat right.Most porn consumers dont really give a single shit about the artist, only the work, and most of the time its for reasons only someone who lurked the abyss can fathom.Most porn artist dont even know how their work is used.Most just save it in their foldersA lot just repost it to get attention or ERP on porn sites/r34/discordSome make cringey fanfiction of itA lot just want to write even more cringey comments on itNow you also have the whole AI training thing.Lots of other porn artists just trace over it and if you're actually someone who pays attention you know how incredibly fucking common and almost ignored, art theft is in the NSFW sphere.There is also a fuckton of mental illness amongst anyone being heavily active in the porn niche, from creators to consumers, hence why any attempts at reasoning are moot and a risk at best and better ignored for your own safety.>I don't get it for you to do this for money or for your pleasure or just the joy of ruining something?Depends on the person. Personally, i do it for shits and giggles>Imagine having the ability to make anything, yet you make slop such as this.Ikr? Why doesn't art mimic reality. Why bother going outside if you can consume a simulation?We shouldnt ever draw anything that's not real.>like 99% percent, of them, are utter garbage.close enoughmy work btw >>7777651>>7777671i gave her saggy tits because thats all i think about it never stops i literally want saggy plump tits in my mouth every waking second of my life and of course i'm 100% very extremely seriuos because why would i go on the internet and tell something that is not trueimma also go smash a window because i can't have a big saggy titty anime milf with a gigantic meaty futa cock
>>7777636>I know some degenerate people will immediately think about drawing some fucked up shit of my favorite characters solely because they need do nothing more.I get you op, I even felt like that years ago, but you learn to live with that in mind. It's like death or pain in itself. You know it's there, but you keep enjoying things even if you know that it's behind you at all times.>>7777719lmao, nice.
