>6 months
But holy shit

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Enjoy "gods" are being real quiet right now

enjoy gods are not congregating here to reply to your bait? oh poor baby

>>7775663
More improvement than any /ic/fag will ever make.

>>7775663
there's a level before pre/beg/....

>>7775663
https://basedjakwiki.org/Ic/_trolling_tactics

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>>7775706
Aw yeah. These artists. These neets. These enjoyers. ALL of you are protected from becoming the guy OP posted.

>only 6 months
lol
I see visible improvement there anyway so what's your point other than "look at this guy's crappy drawings"?

>>7776167
>>7775760

>>7775760
everytime this site is posted here, it becomes unreachable lmao

well he did improve he just started at a very low point

>>7775663
6 months is nothing

Not cool op... those are clearly the drawings of a 15 year old social outcast. Give xer a few more years!

>>7775663
judging by the ridiculously small snippet of his artistic output, it seems like he's getting comfortable with his tools and he found a formula for doing something he enjoys
it seems like he just wants to make dumb os tans or whatever. and weird fetish shit. poor guy's autistic as fuck. do you have that excuse?
it reminds me of those pixel artists who start out by recoloring mega man sprites, then adding different clothes, different hair, etc. and then, one day, they have a good handle on the whole process and branch out from there
so yeah, just draw

>>7775663
unironically there's improvement, even if slow, specially in line confidence.
Have you drawn at all anon? You don't want to get mogged by the guy you are ridiculing right?

>>7775663
You are right. Don't draw.

>>7775663
kill yourself

>>7776167
>>7776237
6 months is a massive amount of time for learning any skill. The problem is when people don't know how to learn.

6 months of 3 hours a day practice will make you near fluent in any language, or make you decent enough at 3D for a junior position. If it's a full time study of 6-8 hours per day, you can become masterful at anything really.

>>7776329
Learning correctly is a skill in and of itself, like you said. It’s a reflection of intelligence and dedication. Someone who has difficulty learning a skill will have problems learning how to learn, it’s the same thing.

Still, going to the gym for 6 months and still being absolute trash is better than going to the gym for a week and giving up. If you can put in time and effort over months and months you’re probably fine, it *should* click at some point and learning gets easier from there. The problem is when people say they want to be this or that and stop a month in. Those people don’t improve and never get anywhere.

Maybe it’s just the sunk cost fallacy but really as long as you put enough time into something it should turn out ok at some point.

>>7776334
Sitting down and trying is a skill that is quite rare desu. Problem is art is highly abstract, so it's kinda hard to navigate learning this.

>>7775663
Soul level: Off The Charts

>>7776329
"6 months" tells us nothing, you can grind 8 hours a day for 6 months or you can do a single 10-minute doodle every day for.6 months.

>>7776368
most anons here who say shit like "I've been drawing for 5-8 years and didn't improve" actually mean "I pick it up, draw at most one hour, then procrastinate 3 months until I finally pick up the pencil again"

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>277 days
>2 hours per day
Just be talented...

>>7776526
What the fuck. So when do you actually start drawing? Do you fucks seriously believe that by drawing ovals and circles and cubes you'd automatically be able to draw the figure?

>>7775741
True I’ve been drawing for almost 7 years and I’m still a permaprebeg.

>>7776542
Can you post your recent work?

>>7776546
>PYW
Retard.

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>>7776546

>>7775663
>>J... just draw...
So you still don't understand what just draw means?

>>7776560
I know it better than you.

>>7776541
What and how should I draw? 2,000 hours of fruitless drawing over these past 5 years have left me so exhausted that I'm out of ideas.

>>7776557
That's not yours

>>7776586
draw what you want to draw; then take a look at what you need to improve on and improve that. If you can't do that on your own, then you might need a teacher.

>>7776600
if you’re such an expert in what my drawings are then show one that is mine.

>>7776612
Im not expert in your drawings so i dont know what are yours, i just know that drawing you posted isnt yours because it's mine

>>7776615
R u me?

>>7776620
No

>>7776624
Do you just draw?

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>>7775706

>>7776526
>>7776586
The trouble is the learning process is too abstract for you, you don't know what to do. And you didn't have the faculties to look up proven methods even though it would've taken you 2 hours of research.

>>7776810
So now we’re at 2,002 hours? That’s too much.

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>>7775760
That's useful to know. the other day I saw some kid trying to use AI to discuss with me. And I know they were using AI because if you use ad hominem the AI tells you to stop replying. is the quickest and easy way to know if someone is using AI to talk to you.

Normally I don't mind Basedjacks and their dementia, at least they know to not take places too seriously and want to troll, but they should get together and kick the resident troll from /ic/ and replace him for a new one, because god damn this is fucking terrible at this. People can tell he is trolling 5 posts in and no gets angry outside him talking to himself. Just give them a bad name, you know?

>>7776822
You're just asking to replace shit with another shit.
They don't make trolls like they used to: they all just try to disagree with you and then say the same insults everyone else says.

>>7776842
Anything is better than what we got, honestly. Is like trying to be trolled by a 8 year old child. half the time is so pathetic I feel like biting just to make him feel better about himself, I just don't do it because he really does not deserve it.

>>7776845
i always bite to make fun of them
they always say the same shit so i can keep honing my canned replies
then they all get addicted to the (you)s and then you start starving them

>>7775663
He's a roblox kid

this is unironically very close in skill/style to how i started (ignoring the fat fetish shit) and now i'm getting more and more comfortable with drawing semi-realism. just draw.

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What the fuck?

>PLS LAUGH AT THIS GUY
anon, you're way more cringe than that guy drawing cringe roblox fatties
he might have the excuse of being heavily autistic
you? you're just a miserable normie

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>>7776810
>proven methods
Which ones? I read "Fun with a pencil" and "Keys to drawing". I followed "Drawabox" and "The Complete Guide to Drawing Manga & Anime". I watched over 600 YouTube videos.

>>7775663
how do I avoid drawing like that? I'm just starting my drawing journey

>>7777235
References

>>7777235
Talent

>>7777293
What’s a good course for developing that?

>>7777224
Draw a Box guy tells you in lesson 0 that <50% of your time should be dedicated to practice, and the rest should be actually drawing.
What you're doing is like chugging preworkout shake and telling yourself you'll try doing a pullup one of these days, and just going on like that for years

Do you like some anime girl or your dog or something? Go draw that. As in sketch > lines > colors > shading, a whole completed piece.
That's the only kind of drawing that actually matters.
Like all that math shit or whatever you "learned" in school and have forgotten by now because you never used it, you'll never crystalize all these drawing books and shit you've learned unless you put it into practice.

I'm serious, go make a completed piece of something that you like and want to draw. It might suck at the end or whatever but the process of making a new thing using what you know is the most important kind of learning. You'll figure out which aspects of drawing you aren't so good at and try a different approach the next time. You'll learn much faster that way.

>>7777224
Pretty much as >>7777318 says
Try to complete a project or piece from start to end to the extent of what your current knowledge gets you. Then you try a few exercises or watch what other artists are doing, try them out and see if it fits with what you're doing or if it ended up with different results

I like watching Saito Naoki's "Art Correction" series because half of the time it's finding out methods I've tried before whether it gets the result that I expected, or is done in a different way and gets different results. And it's just relaxing to watch.

>>7777318
>>7777354
But this is all a waste of time if you lack >>7777293

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>>7776586
What you've been drawing this whole time is supposed to supplement your figure drawing, or anything else for that matter you're not supposed to just draw circles ovals and squares for the sake of them you're supposed to learn how to use spheres, box forms, and cylindrical forms onto real world forms like figures and its environment.
What the fuck have you been doing?

>>7775663
>guise lets laugh at this 6-month kid's drawings!
Bruh

>>7777446
You gain wisdom in experience
But if you can't take a step back and evaluate the result that you get from trying X or Y or Z, then I'm sorry maybe you should just do something else.

>>7777466
If you have to try x, y, or z then you shouldn’t even have bothered. Either you get it right from the start or you shouldn’t bother. That‘s why people are permabegs.

>>7775663
>12 pictures in 6 months
>why-y isnt he improving
???

>>7777495
This is what people call low frustration tolerance.

>>7776822
"don't feed the trolls"
difficulty: impossible