How the FUCK do the Chinese paint on a single layer??? and how do they make it look so good? what kind of drugs are they taking?
>>7781112maybe they eat paint
have you never painted traditionally?painting on one layer is easy. you don't have to worry about layer management, and if you draw over something you can just draw it back in.
>>7781118No, I used to do watercolors though. so the Chinese get classically trained in art schools or something and that translates over to digital?
watch literally any traditional painting video
>>7781123in general the chinese get trained and that translates over
>>7781112Study real art instead of anime coomer slop
>>7781112Btw I noticed online discussions keep mentioning painting vs lineart. And how painting is faster, and what /pro/s do. I don't get it. What's the definition of "painting" and "lineart" in this context? I was always under the assumption that the order is sketch -> inking -> color + layers magic. Does "painting" somehow magically skip this process? But how about the lines then? Does "painting" always mean stuff without clean lines?Not trolling. Serious question. This painting vs lineart thing could be just nonsense that youtube/instagram grifters push.
>>7781112Are digitalcucks seriously this stupid?
>>7781206pyw
It's easy. They lie.
>>7781186Painting does lineart during the color stage (and sketch stage sometimes), and because they're all on one layer you can just freely redraw shit without playing musical chairs.
>>7781208Post your 20 sketch layers.
>>7781186you can paint without a sketch, just block in the shapes and adjust them as you gohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_TeeRq6ats
>>7781216you can do 20 sketch layers in trad using a light table get the fuck out of /ic/
>>7781112Learn from the Chinese: https://www.xuetangx.com/course/nbcc3501913dpintl/26302403
>>7781221>things nobody does>implying anyone in /ic/ even owns a lightboxOk, you've convinced me digitalcucks really are that stupid. What's next?
>>7781186Lineart is just a technical to separate planes. You can do the same with colors by blocking them as >>7781220 pointed. What the fuck is this display that the precision seems too good though? I could never do it without zooming in in my shitty huion without zooming in a lot.
>>7781226Yes, everything you make up is real.
>>7781230Meant for >>7781221
>>7781186My own understanding, is lineart means when the final illustration you can still see that, the lineart, basically a polished sketch/outline. General workflow is sketch > clean line art > coloring. However, some artists skip the lineart step and go straight to painting, leaving next to no outlines in the end product. It's easy to see why it results in a faster process, since you don't have to worry about beautiful lines, or line weights.I don't think it's neccessarily something all pros do though, it heavily depends on style. Capeshit, cartoon and manga are heavy on good lineart, but modern western styles, game industry art, and more painterly styles tend to forego lines and rely more on shapes and volume to tell details apart.
>>7781112its called painting in real life, but you wouldnt know what that is>>7781221>20 sketch layer light tableretard has never set 100ft within a light table to be saying this idiotic thing>>7781213beglet needs its layers
>>7781421>idioticI've cut up a sketch into little bits and glued it back together to rearrange composition before. I don't know why you'd need a light table for this, though. After your sketch is done, you can just copy it onto the final canvas and move on.
>>7781112you should try it sometime, it's oddly liberating just being able to blend or sample without caring about layer orderpainting and coloring comes so much more naturally since i stopped trying to autistically isolate parts of the drawing and just kinda started working on top of whats there
>>7781118you paint in layers in trad, retardoil polymerizes and you can just wipe off fresh paint without disturbing the layers underneathtraditionally painters would paint the underpainting in egg tempera and then layer oil on topthere are up to 100 layers of paint in places of rembrandt's paintings, same with van eyck
>>7781186Up until (and including much of) the 19th century, most painters made very precise drawings as the basis for their paintings. They would start with rough compositional sketches. Once the composition was settled upon, every major figure in a painting was isolated and studied separately, as with important/challenging heads, hands, feet, etc. Every detail was worked out before bringing it all together in a "cartoon," or full-scale preparatory drawing, which was then carefully transferred to the surface which was to be painted.Later, many painters took a more direct approach, making only a rough charcoal under-drawing or going straight to paint. This change coincided with a greater emphasis on the effects of light and color and lesser emphasis on form and linear design.Ingres is an example of the former, Sargent the latter.
>>7781112drugs??? It's called COVID-19
>>7781226I have no idea what the fuck is a light box but light pad is 5 euro on aliexpress
>>7781112>The Chinese don't use layers in their digital paintings.I didn't know being retard was admirable.
>>7781112"I have a toilet, I poop on the floor"Average Chinese person.
>>7781112Not using layers in digital is like using a motorcycle with the engine removed and pedals.Nothing admirable.
>>7781112>>7781118Exactly. They DO layer on ONE layer like traditional artists.
>>7781112>Chinese not use layersWhy use a motor if you already have toes?
>>7781988>>7782315>>7782003so what advantage using multiple layers give you, except making it easier to cut up the piece for other media use, or correcting mistakes easier, with the second advantage being highly debatable if you know what you are doing in the first place anyway
>>7782387The difference with traditional art is that the environment limits you to avoid wasting materials and making mistakes. In digital art, it's foolish to limit yourself. I repeat, would you take the engine out of a car to push it with your feet?
you don't need layers if you don't make mistakes
>>7781112Literally just patience, practice, and discipline
>>7781186draw a circle in lineartnow paint the circlelineart is too much work, you try to construct the image of a shape one line at a time, and often getting wrong, painting on the other hand is more intuitive, you can easily notice problems and correct filled shapes, not so with lines. lines also have the issue of thickness, unless you're experienced, your line thickness won't have much direction, leading to very disappointing results.
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>>7783277where's the comparison broski
>>7783282it's literally the same thing, nigga
