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How long is too long for a commission? Two months ago I forked over $90 to a twitter artist and haven’t heard back from them since
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too long is anything past what you've agreed on
stop making retarded threads
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>>7782568
For $90, realistically if it isn't done within the week, they either forgot about it, or they're waffling and it's going to suck balls anyway.
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>>7782568
You got scammed.
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>>7782592
>>7782590
shit lesson learned I guess
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The longest commission I experienced for a 2D drawing featuring 2 characters was from a Highschool Malaysian girl, about 3 days for 100usd.
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>>7782568
80% of my commissions took over 3 months. I fucking had it and just turned to AI.
AI didn't take over the industry, artists are just so fucking lazy there was nothing to take over in the first place, might as well just give money to a scammer.
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>>7782568
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN MEEEEEEEEEE WHY DO SCAMMERS GET COMMISIONS BUT I DONT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>7782637
>most subtle AI falseflag ever
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Pay some guys to kick his ass.
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>>7782657
Too many retards think that daily uploads means quick commissions.
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>>7782658
prove me wrong.
artists suck shit at completing their work in a reasonable timeframe (within a month).
the ones that do are extremely rare.
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>>7782568
>twitter artist
Seriously, I do not understand why everyone hires artists over fucking twitter of all things.
Why not hire your plumber, electrician, or builder via twitter too?
But I suppose if your budget is $90, it makes sense that you'd only want a hobbyist, but surely there's better sites for that than fucking twitter?
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>>7782692
Name 3 sites better than Twitter for hiring artists that are not the gacha machine that is fanbox.
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>>7782568
Why didn't you ask for a sketch?

I always provide a sketch first, precisely because I want them to know that I am serious.

Anyway, poor lad
Contant the artist. Maybe he just forgot?
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>>7782692
There are, in fact, not better sites than twitter.
You really think people are browsing artists on Linkedin?
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>>7782686
This is true, but moreso because /beg/s want to take commissions too early to prove they made it or some shit, and refuse to accept the fact that everything good they've ever made has been on accident and they can't produce the kind of quality expected on demand.
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>>7782568
Half up front. Half when they give you the actual work. Also pester them for updates. Artists should be updating you if you commission them or crowdfund.
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>>7782698
I'm not hiring artists, so I'm not looking for sites or reviewing them, but based on my precursory knowledge these three have this in common;
They act as a middleman and ensure rgR the work is delivered and protects the customer. If the work isn't delivered, or isn't delivered in a satisfactory time limit, or does not meet the client's brief, the money is returned.
>Fiverr
>Deviantart
>VGen
Not to say these sites are great either, since I haven't been on anything other than deviantart, and deviantart has gone to shit, but the fact that they offer protections still stands. Not to mention they all offer their own means of paying the artist, rather than going off platform.

>Haha those sites su-
As I said, I'm not looking up sites, because I'm not the one hiring an artist. I'm not doing the due diligence for you.

>>7782701
Despite all I'm saying here, I wasn't even specifically talking about using another site made for commissions, but rather, I was talking about finding out if someone was professional - simply having a twitter profile is not an indication of such.
Check their website, see their client testimonials, maybe see if they have other socials where people have reviewed their interactions with them, etc.

So yeah, maybe DO check their Linkedin, it's another means of checking their credibility.
Though you can't expect much from someone working for $90.
>That's sooo much work
Then don't go whinging about losing money on hiring a slack ass artist, when you yourself are being a slack ass.

>>7782686
>prove me wrong.
I would say 'look at any industry that's heavily dependent on artists', but I realise a lot of them are notorious for their delays - such as comics or video games - so maybe you're right.
That said, that only means that meeting the deadlines gives you a leg up, should you choose to do this professionally.
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>half now half later
if you're an artist don't do this unless you're literally doing commissions that are 400usd+ minimum and even then i'd highly recommend against it unless it's with commissioners you trust. don't waste your time splitting anything less than 100usd lol
>how long is too long
depending on wait lists you could be waiting 6+ months before the artist even touches your comm. are you their only commissioner? Are you 5th in line? it's your job to know this before you hand random people your money desu
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>>7782729
This makes so many wrong assumptions on why people buy commissions.
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>>7782698
Discord, Twitch, FurAffinity
>but i'll get groomed!!!!
Well yeah artists are freaks what did you expect
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>>7782734
wait lists isn't the issue, it's taking the money and not delivering anything for months or even years on end.
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>>7782739
I'm assuming you're talking about the want to hire a particular artist, rather than just getting a piece of art from anybody. While that defo comes into play, I believe most commissioners don't put that much stock into it.
It also doesn't change that you should probably do your due diligence and see if that artist you like is reliable.

So my comment does actually address that, but do tell if I'm missing something else.
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>>7782698
ebay
etsy
>offer buyer and seller protection
reddit
>dedicated pages for finding buyers and sellers
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>>7782748
It's common to pay upfront to secure your spot on a waitlist and be waiting months for your art, especially with popular artists.
>years
It was two months according to OP, which is less than the amount of time you'd be waiting for a single Skeb commission, which can often take 4+ months, with no communication.
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>>7782568
>Commission someone from here almost two years ago and pay them upfront
>Days turned into weeks and then into months and into several months
>Too autistic to ask them directly fearing I might offend them somehow with their busy schedule
>Eventually they moved onto other commissions
I guess they just forgot.
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>>7782768
No reason you can't bring it up now.
I'm sure you have the receipt floating about somewhere in your inbox, just gently remind them.
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>>7782568
On that topic, how long do commissioners usually expect updates to their comms? Two months doesn't sound that long for a complex comm, but if I got a comm like that I'd try to update progress at least biweekly
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>>7782792
Assuming you're not getting paid like $2000 for it, if it's not done in under a week something is going horribly wrong.
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Paying someone else to make me art seems like admitting defeat. If I can't do it myself, I'll keep at it til I can.
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why didnt you ask for updates after a few weeks? they might have forgot
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>>7782768
I got commissioned for a medium sized project on 4chinz, guy ghosted me for months before he even sent me the brief, then months later blamed me for not replying even though I replied immediately, then claimed the email never reached him despite all this being in the same reply chain, then pretended he gave me a different brief despite me literally quoting him and the brief being in the same chain, then suddenly had a death in the family and was living on donating plasma when it got time to pay me.
Never working without payment upfront again.
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>>7782923
Oh, and it was supposed to be 50% paid after sketches, rest at the end, but he had emergency roof repairs when I sent him the sketches and I was a good goy and agreed to wait for the payment and keep working.
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>>7782924
>I sent him the sketches and I was a good goy and agreed to wait for the payment and keep working.
That's less of a good guy move, and more of a sucker move.
At least you learnt from it.
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How is this even a thread lmao.
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>>7782937
I didn't say good guy, thoughbeit
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>>7782568
I never understood how some artists take weeks to complete some drawings. For me, 3 hours are enough for a full color with background and one character. Maybe it's because I suck, but what do they do in all that time?
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>>7782945
You do suck, you won't even get a green light on the preliminary sketch in 3 hours, and queues are a thing
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Most artists are bad businessman unfortunately. Not everyone can draw for money.
I noticed that myself. I'm very picky about what comms I accepts and I prefer the "your character here" format.
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>>7782568
depends, the cheaper the commission the more likely the longer it takes cause the artist backlog is so filled up that they forgot a few people's orders. 90 bucks should be done within a week IF they are someone who has a small following otherwise you'll get in a few weeks or any longer than that then you gotten scammed/artist forgot.
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Id known this one dude for several years, move outta town, move back see him and his "co-creator" (they'd released some shiity comic). Buy it anyways cause "hey its so -and-so support local, support artists". Hit 'em up on jewbook to commission another piece. Asks $200. Paid em no problem. Took a year and a half to get my money back. Went to a place he drinks coffee at, sent messages, even went to some mini-con outside of town. Everytime all smiles and excuses. Finally find he's involved with another "company" and message them explaining this is the type you're getting involved with. Month later money paid.

Tldr; >fucker rips me off for a shitty commision
>tool damn near two years to get $200 back
>only after being an asshole
A true artist
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>>7782734
>are you their only commissioner? Are you 5th in line? it's your job to know this before you hand random people your money desu
You’re right. The artist actually warned me they’re not actively looking for commissions and that it would take awhile. I don’t even blame them for making me wait, though. I just wish I could get more than radio silence when I ask for an update. Even something like “hey umm I haven’t started yet bc I was on a three week bender” would make me feel much better, because then at least I know they haven’t forgotten

>>7782757
>It was two months according to OP, which is less than the amount of time you'd be waiting for a single Skeb commission, which can often take 4+ months, with no communication.
That sounds fair. Honestly, it’s my fault for blowing $90 on a porn drawing as a financially insecure wagie. If I could realistically afford what I bought then I wouldn’t worry



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