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Previous Thread: >>7760570

If you are a beginner, please use the /beg/ general.
>>>/ic/beg

Post your current drawing here and give constructive critique to others! Don't take anything personal!
Please make sure your posted image is clear, downsized to around 2000 pixels wide, rotated to the correct orientation, and that any unused space is cropped.
If you want critique on a drawing from the previous thread, you can delete it there and repost in this one.

>/ic/ Resources/Reference/Downloads/Links:

>STICKY:
Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/view
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view

>WHERE to get study materials
annas-archive.org
>>>/ic/artbook
>>>/ic/video
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Finally getting back into digital after a long hiatus.
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Drew this yesterday, with some minor adjustments made today.
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>>7782772
I like this scene, paintings with water are always interesting, I think you could do a bit more with that reflection, showing more of the character, seems like a nice opportunity given the subject, I do like the ripples but my brain tends to question if this is something would happen in a body of water, I do remember the first thing I did on a boat scene was doing that kind of ripple effect, maybe there are cooler or more specific alternatives but this one is neat regardless.
>>7782862
Cool design, I am getting Yu-Gi-Oh! vibes from it. I like the way you rendered the flames, perhaps something that would help is breaking some of the pattern of the flames, maybe its feet or hands could use a large diffuse amount, or reduce it in certain areas to break repetition.
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>>7782879
>I am getting Yu-Gi-Oh! vibes from it
nta but I see it now that you said it
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>>7782879
Not familiar with Yugioh so the similarities are not intentional.
The design is part of an entire set of designs I've made for my worldbuilding project.
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>>7771276
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Idk if this will turn out well.
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>>7782685
Very cool. Love your colouring. Very punchy.
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>>7783711
Thank you, I like vibrant colors
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So...a random Japanese guy asked me for a drawing of this character 5 years ago on Pixiv and I completely forgot about it. Today, I stumbled across his message while updating my profile, so I finally decided to draw her. I have no idea what became of him or if he's even still alive since it was at the beginning of the pandemic, but if he's doing well, I hope he sees it someday.
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>>7784408

For reference, this was my quality level when he asked me for that drawing.
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>>7784550
Sloppy, boring, no substance. As a concept, it's shallow. Anime girl (what a surprise) standing in a desert. You bring the camera in close, eliminating any scale or grandiosity in the environment, but then you skimp on the details with haphazard uncaring brush strokes. Really makes me wonder what the point of the entire piece is? Complete waste of time from top to bottom it seems like. Do better.
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>>7784550
>>7785046
samefag.
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>>7785046
>>7785055
The actual samefag
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>>7784550
Don't listen to those jerks, it looks really good!

I wonder what the location of this piece is?
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>>7785113
Somewhere in the mountainous regions of central mexico near San Luis. I came across the funky looking tree playing Geoguesser and decided to paint it.
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>>7785232
those eyes are super misaligned
can you really not see it
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>>7785236
Looks fine to me
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>>7785248
Well, that's one reason why you haven't improved at all in all these years. Have you ever tried flipping the canvas?
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>>7785255
you just racist gringo
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>>7785272
he's right
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>>7785334
you should try your hand at making a comic mikey
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Damn I'm washed
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>>7785346
quit fishing
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>>7785348
I mean I'm just rusty after a couple of months without drawing. It ain't that bad but it's also not good yknow
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>>7785354
>couple of months
I could never
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>>7785449
should be two separate pieces
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>>7785590
I'm curious anon, how would you make it into seperate pieces? I'm aware that A2 would probably never sit with 2B or 9s so calmly but I wanted to imagine an ending where they ended up chilling.
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>>7786173
hmm well i'm actually not too familiar with the game but 2b and 9s look stanced up, it's a bit weird for a2 to be sitting still at their feet. i would have done just 2b and 9s as they are. and then a second picture of a2 sitting alone. maybe instead of a large platform she's sitting on a thin pillar with other shorter pillars surrounding her.
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Today art is for a Vtuber friend, we did an art trade a few weeks ago.
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just did some fanart of my favorite Killing Floor characters for fun
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warmup for today
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I suck at multiply mode.
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>>7788662
love this, kinda reminds me of mirrormask. blog?

nice to see my gnome on the thread pic! have a warhammer WIP
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>>7788164
you got the angle wrong and the light on eyelids isn't that bright
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>>7788689
thanks. i'm not familiar with mirrormask but i looked it up and yeah it's up my alley, might check it.
https://x.com/Velleity_Art/status/1987709979047100884
love warhammer, space marine 2 was fun.
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>>7788691
No the angle is right, I just drew the eyes too high. There's a good reason why I called it a warmup and not a study Thanks for the useless critique tho.
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>>7788662
is the one on the left her stand?
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>>7789137
Something like that yes.
Real body is cocooned up somewhere and she exerts her influence using the big girls (multiple) like the one in the bg, she's main villain of my setting.
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>>7789035
>No the angle is right, I just drew the eyes too high
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>>7789172
thanks for proving me right?
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>>7789244
Dunning kruger, ladies and gents. You are blind to your mistakes even when presented with an overlay loop. Everyone else can see how shit you are. I didn't even make the vid, someone else did
>Oh it's just a warm-up, tee-hee
Shut the fuck up
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>>7789244
the angle is not right, I'll just leave it at that.
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Trying digital
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>>7789350
ur still goated btw
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>>7789310
>>7789286
you dont even draw lmao
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>>7789350
>tfw no cooli to fooli

Nice art tho
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>>7789713
Don't do it, Tomoko!
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>>7789882
Definitely full of problems, but I still like this
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Taunie from legends Z-A
Anything wonky I should work on?
What would you change?
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>>7789156
Reminds me of blame! It takes real restraint and skill to make the eyes actually fit the right proportions. The nose and lips too. They're not seen portrayed the way you do all that often. They also reminds me of the way shinichi sakamoto and his copycats style them (pic related)
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idk which look
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>>7790398
back one
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>>7786341
And another one, drawing OCs for friends is fun
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>>7791475
I love it, great values I think
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break time
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>>7791953
Looks killer. Are you the dude with that Egyptian and German woman couple?
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>>7792002
Yeah that's me
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>>7782685
Roma Invicta! Looks dope actually, it crest on galea and shield handle look a bit off.
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Drawing of a white scaled norwegian female. My 2nd BG3 playthrough character. Lyset Hviteøglen.
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>>7792146
>reddit leftovers
Hooray
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>>7787360
Why did Notch kill her?
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>>7792691
Anime was still considered weeb shit in 2010 and everyone hated her.
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My latest drawing and my first real charcoal drawing. It was extremely fun to make.
>Movie was absolute kino btw
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I wanted to do more with this but I'm tired of looking at it so it's done for now
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>>7789566
thanks guys
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something
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>>7785449
decided to go with a2 chilling anyways, here's a higher res version lads
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I'd consider myself a pretty decent draftsman, especially traditionally in ballpen but I want to learn digital painting and it has been kicking my ass. Everything I make looks like shit, pic related. I drew a loose sketch of a face and did one painting below it and one using it as a ref.
I know there's issues of proportion and form but mostly I want to focus on colours and values. How do I get them to not look like total shit? What should my brush settings be? Should I use an opacity brush or just a basic hard round where I cycle between colors to build form? I've been watching some Pluvium Grandis streams and I can't make heads or tails of his process, especially as someone who's used to thinking in lines. Are there any artists who start their paintings out with linework which disappears as the process goes on?
Sorry for the blog, but I'm pretty lost and would like some help.
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>>7793685
Well, it doesn't help that you have like 3 values across all those colors. Your lineart disappears because you don't have the contrast to replace it.
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R8
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>>7793685

My advice would be to draw more, and learn to draw in masses of value instead of lines. Like the other anon pointed out, you need a better grasp of value.
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>>7793572
Nice, I like her and 9S poses so I'm glad you kept her there. The lighting has a comfy vibe.
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>>7782607
whatever happened to the Discord?
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Drew this today.
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>>7782607

i'm going back into existing areas in the ship and sprucing up the floor plates. trying my hardest to remove and straight lines. i've also added a second pair of detail lines to make it more 3D. something simple that i can mass produce and easily edit again in the future.
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>>7793834
>>7794386
By lineart disappearing I meant I was asking if there's any painters who start out with lineart instead of blocks of shapes and then sort of make it disappear by rendering over it that I could learn from given my skill set. But thanks for the advice. I'll do some value and shape studies.
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I love her face
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>>7783329
perfection
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>>7793525
The bodyfat % between the body and head don't match up, either face needs to be scrawnier or body meatier/less stringy
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i think the chin and neck area shouldve been as simple as the arms and hands and it was with the first stroke before messed it up, i forgot one blue area below the sash and the leg lines in the bottom right arent necessary. other than that i'm happy with the outcome for my first attempt at a watercolor piece since two years. i want to do many more
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I thought I could never find my way back home.
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>>7794235
>>7797850
these are really good but try drawing larger. It looks like you're having a hard time getting the details in there.
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>>7797858
I mean, 12 inches isn't that small IMO. Part of it is I'm focusing hard on 'block forms' like Bridgeman, another part is that I'm keeping them under 30 minutes & don't have all my anatomy memorized yet.

But what details do you see me struggling with? There might be some good insight there. Mistakes I dont see already
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>>7797917
>Ricochet TwooOOooooOo!
kino
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Anal Angels
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>>7797987
Lighting looks great. Do you gradient all those lights first, then add the shadows?
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>>7797987
nice, looks like you had fun
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>>7798020
I just do a base layer of colors and the default dodge brush in Krita, a color dodge layer for the brighter highlights, then play with the color adjustment settings a bit until I like it.
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>>7798035
I actually hate drawing so much
I'd rather be playing video games
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>>7794870
Tried to do a study on her head and discovered that I am still fucking beg tier when it comes to drawing faces and expressions lel. That's what you get when most of what you draw is faceless mooks or stoick soldier dudes with little to no expressions on their faces.
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>>7797938
>>7797917
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=632kyLysP6c
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>>7782862
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>>7799342
Very cool!
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>>7797815
You're just mad about his mad gainz , why u hatin' brah?
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>>7799003
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Getting prompts from Tarot
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>>7799003
>>7800049
Cool style! I like ones like these 3 better than the doodle collages like the first 2 you posted
Your work is interesting fun and colorful
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>>7800049
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0sORVBL4kM
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Thoughts on these? Anything I need to fix before printing?
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>>7801252
better than the lackluster cartoon style. i might be wrong but anne's torso looks slightly long, but that could just be the clothes and the reference from the cartoon with everything being noodle calarts style anyway. good job either way.
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i think my colors are ugly
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>>7801526
idk
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w.i.p. First time using krita since highschool. Got it again specifically for these thick paint impasto brushes, love the texture of them.
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>>7801526
Dareike, my boy. Is that you? Haven't seen you in years!
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Wayfare Pig
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>>7802197
hey how did you know it was me, i have a different style
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I'm mister impossible.
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>>7804796
This is something I like the small details much better than the big picture.
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>>7804850
Interesting, I definitely struggled with making everything fit together right with this so that makes sense to me.

Do you have any advice on how I can make the whole at least as good as the sum of its parts when painting?
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>>7804720
I painted the most beautiful girl ever, alisa xayalith. I adore her, I really do. She's easily in my top 10 singers of all time.
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>>7804873
I would make the hand less realistic, more stylized, and probably larger.
You also dont have any real darks. There are no strong value contrasts. I like the nose and the mouth, the hair could use some highlights though. And some more folds in the clothing could give you room for more values.
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How do I make this thing look more like a slender girl?
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>>7805284
Narrower shoulders, neck, and limbs, slight pinch towards the waist, and -- very importantly -- dainty girl hands.
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>>7805302
Wonderful, thanks. I'd already made hands and shoulder smaller but clearly didn't go far enough and I was feeling pretty stuck.
I wanted to make the top look a little oversized, but maybe it hides the figure too much and since I'm not showing the legs the effect is multiplied.
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>>7805308
>make the top look a little oversized
To be honest, I was second guessing that change. If you don't mind injecting a lot of energy into the pose, you could keep the jacket big and just have it flare out to the sides, exposing the shape of her torso beneath.
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>>7805313
I'll experiment with it a little, thank you.
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>>7804720
Should have made her nipples harder
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>>7782607
Really love the X4 drawing in OP pic.
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Trying colour
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>>7806272
Kinda makes me feel like ur a Mexican children’s book author on drugs and ur slightly paranoid or maybe like people watching you or something bc all the eyes. It’s interesting, but kinda weird and childish which is not a great combo for me. Bottom 1/4 of page is pretty boring.

Here’s a crude drawing I did. I don’t draw very often because idk to do with drawings.
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>>7782607
bluesky guy
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>>7806540
I think I speak for everyone here when I say, we already knew that, fag.
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>>7805035
Absolutely sick dystopian cyberpunk, dude. Love your prose too. Blog/link to project by chance?
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>>7806846
this face looks way better.
Look at what you did here>>7801526
and compare the two. It's not just eye size
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>>7806930
yeah I accepted that I lack the skill to veer off from the dogma
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Test
[spoiler]Test[/spoiler]
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may-may angle portrait
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Perspective okay, or a bit off? Don't normally draw this kinda looking-down-on angle.
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>>7807734
>>7806930
>>7808349
>>7808498
Very nice guys. Good jobs!

>Perspective okay, or a bit off?
Technically I think it might be a bit off but it's close enough to work and look good.
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>>7784550
this felt ethereal, I generally don't consider colors within my premeditations but I feel compelled to make a conscious effort now
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>>7807734
Asukafag is that you? her arms are fucked.
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>>7806540
Love these. Great shape language
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who is that pokemon
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It never even occurred to me to draw on the touchscreen laptop until today for some reason
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>>7809081
Advanced finger painting.
Nice draw.
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>>7809081
Very nice Anon
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Finished this today. Drawing fabrics that look natural when folded into clumps and what not is surprisingly difficult imo.
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Opened a "new" sketchbook and forgot that I'd already started a drawing in it. Decided to finish it. This is as far as I'm going with this piece. Oil pencil.
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>>7809218
The flowing robes on the dude in the foreground look pretty good
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>>7809222
Thanks.
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>>7807168
Thats really good anon kun
May your forms be full of feels
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>>7801526
Give it a fiew days.

Or reset Yourself by drawing a black and white sketch.
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>>7808990
Is that monkey "vampire hunter" D lupin the third

The champion of the maximum tournament

The 100 man slayer

Aka two hands
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>>7809218
illustrate my dnd game for me

>>7809389
cute
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>>7805035
Saved.
Dats breety cool anon
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>>7809363
appreciated. forms and angles are my daily bread now
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>>7809214
very nice atmosphere. i wish i could have your worldbuilding scale and effort, but i did start actually writing out a story in my own space opera 'tism, despite only leaning on historical events and other skiffy. your stuff has a very dune like feel, very imaginative. always a pleasure to see your stuff in the wild on /v/ and other threads and boards.
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>>7809797
you need planes on top of your forms. read faragasso.
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>>7809799
Thank you! I'm trying to put my sperginess into productive uses via this worldbuilding autism lel.
In general the sources of inspiration I have for this worlbuilding ranges from basically everything I've found cool or interesting troughout my life be it video games, movies, literature, anime & manga and other hobbies I've engaged with. Dune is one of those sources, not necessarily in terms of the aesthetics but more in the overall worldbuilding and vibe of Noble houses scheming against one another, and of course the Bene Gesserit were a major source of inspiration for me when I began to envision the matriarchal fertility cult faction of the setting that basically holds monopoly on reproduction.

In terms of the role within my setting the Sisterhood isn't really in the same niche as the bene gesserit, (as in manipulating stuff in the shadows and being sort of woman illumnati behind the nobility) as they are more overtly a religious order that is involved in the lives of most denizens of the setting because the widescale infertility issues among the populace basically means that most people are dependent on the Sisterhood and their services to have kids. The aesthetics I went for their military forces is intentionally sort of perverse because the phallic weapons and pregnant looking armor etc has ritual and religious signifigance to them.
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>>7808498
Coming along. Trying not to overwork parts.
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>>7809858
the phallic guns are a nice touch on top of all the boob armour/helmets
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hi there
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>>7810518
Thanks. Figuring out the aesthetics of the Sisterhood was somewhat of a hurdle for me because I generally don't draw women or anything even remotely suggestive because of my own autistic hyperfixations on more militaristic stuff and general prudishness, however with the way I had developed their lore, I felt that the aesthetics had to do it justice and actually both look unique and fitting for what essentially is a matriarchal fertility cult.
Getting over my own prudishness was a big part of the process of designing the Sisterhood's look lel.
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>>7810577
Hello there fellow artfag.
What brings you to this crab bucket on this fine evening.

Is that a Cyrilic filename? That intentional or just happenstance.

Also , got some more png files somewhere that i could peruse during my times of leisure.
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>>7809814
In the immortal words of a poet philospher
SirMix a Lot
I like big butts, and i can not lie
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>>7810584
>Getting over my own prudishness was a big part of the process of designing the Sisterhood's look lel.
looks great, despite one might saying it's a little cliche but cliche's and tropes are called so for a reason. they are popular and work if done right. keep up your efforts, i hope to see it in comic form or somesuch someday!
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simple stipple
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>>7810600
Thanks! Once I am done with my worldbuilding infographics I plan on trying to do some small comics to test out how well that style of storytelling works out for me.
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>>7810596
>What brings you to this crab bucket on this fine evening
jsut hangnign around, looking whaat others do, myabe pick up soem tricks
>Is that a Cyrilic filename?
nyes
>Also , got some more png files somewhere that i could peruse during my times of leisure
I don't have many matrials prepped for 'study' by others, sadly
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>>7809858
Love your work. Does working as a concept artist interest you?
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cant wait to struggel with hte rest of the clothes
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>>7810756
Some stuff
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>>7810793
That looks really good
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>>7810802
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today's drawing
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>>7810804
this is very cool
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>>7810685
Thanks! Being a concept artist is something I have been interested in for a long while however I'm not sure if I am good enough for that sort of job. My ability to focus on drawing stuff kind of waxes and wanes though I have been trying to make efforts to just make drawing even a little part of my daily routine.
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>>7810904
Thanks. Will have more similar tomorrow. And then shift into digital art with just as much if not more emphasis on type face and graphic
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>>7808839
Thank you!
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Carol fanart
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Working on something. Just getting past the blocking in stage.
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not entirely happy with the white trails and outlines on the ship but i quite like how the background came out
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>>7791484
really like this. reminds me of some of my dreams
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My Warhammer 40K Guard General. The background isn't my favourite part so i mashed it all.
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>>7809814
your character's faces look vaguely slavic. (but in a good way)
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>>7811167
>>7811167
I considered buying dragoncrown
But instead i drew this.
Yes now i see some mistakes. Dont feel like fixing them just yet.
>>7785574
Ddddpng.png , do you plan on working on it some more? :x wuld like to see it :x

>>7786569
Man , i played that more then a decade ago ., ah the memoryes.
I liked that gassmask in a suit guy.
>>7811167 you show skill and understanding, and it looks like you have beenn doing this for a while..

but as far as the face goes, I think the chin doesnt follow the rest of the face. In terms of perspective (or vice versa).

I'll keep an eye out to see what else you make :P
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>>7809788
redoing it because i think i put too much contrast too early
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"Your government has abandon you, G.I."
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>>7812864
I don't think we really need a play-by-play, bud.
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>>7813159
You said you wanted more posting in these threads. Let the nigga cook
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>>7813172
Okay, there's a line between asking a question and posting the same painting 4 times in 24h
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>>7811504
And i did some minor work.
Mostly fixing that stupid pec. How tf did i miss that the first time around.
*0*
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>>7813159
ok boss
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>>7809214
Very ambitious.
Best of luck to yee in your future endevours
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>>7811172
i'm Polish
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Study for commission
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>>7813610
Thoughts on Kolin schnoze?
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>>7813775
what
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>>7782607
finally had time to draw something for my soul. feels gud

critique welcomed, of course
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I dont really like digital
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>>7804880
u remind me of some artist i used to watch on twitch who went schizophrenic.
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>>7814351
Hey I got some news for you!
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>>7814145
I love the atmosphere of this piece but you really need to do some studies, the anatomy itself needs some improving
Good coloring, background, lines etc though
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A sketch I did. Used reference for this, but tried to make it my own style. I think hand is messed up, but I can't seem to make it better right now, so I'm thankful for any feedback.
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>>7810802
thank you!
I liek your colorful skteches, they surely have that vintage-y vibe to them

finished the piece yyayayya
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done. done more rendering than i intended to.
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Colored this. Just kinda playing w digital brushes
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>>7814759
Wow impressive. Love the gun
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>>7814990
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>>7814990
This reminds me of those pencils that have different colors mixed together so that the color changes as you use it
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>>7815063
Yea that’s what I used to draw these lol. From the Cincinnati contemporary art center, pencils say made in Japan they’re very nice
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>>7815067
Very cool, I thought these were digital pieces so I didn't realize it was literally just those pencils! Love it.
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Hey /draw/ I’m looking to commission album art for a prog metal band. Thinking abstract/esoteric paintings maybe. Any kind anons able to steer me in the right direction where to look and purchase?
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>>7811504
>>7813346
Very nice, man. Your colourings getting much better.

Why'd you nuke your account tho? Sadge.
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>>7814537
Thanks! And yeah, studies would be proper. I don't really care about things being 100% anatomically correct, but I do want to improve the feeling of physicality. It's really lacking.
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>>7815166
I embarassed my self.
And deleted everything to prevent the very small chance of the internet interfeiring with me offline.
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>>7815330
the internet remembers everything
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>>7815330
Damn. Fair but damn.

Anyway I'm happy to see you've stuck with art tho. Keep it up man!
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tackling even more dynamic poses yeayay
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>>7814759
I probably shouldn't say this but I jerked off to this pic yesterday
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>>7814573
this is perhaps a bit nitpicky, but the horizontal alignment of her mouth doesn't make sense. it's too far left; the center of her mouth doesn't align with the center of her face. it's not that noticeable imo all things considered, but if you wanted to you could push the anatomical accuracy a little more in that regard.
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>>7815745
Will do
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>>7814842
Cute, huggable character.
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>>7816132
Thanks anon, I'll try and fix it.
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>sorry but i take anything personal
>funwork is no work
>get trampled then.
How to gauge something's traffic is 6 digit from its element.
>stupid work is no work too. -notbill
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If you don't put me in the next thread image, I'm never going to draw again.
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>>7818673
It's a lottery. How many things did you draw in this thread?
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>>7818731
Nothing
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>>7818900
Perfect. You cant lose if you dont play
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first breathe deeply for exactly 15 minutes if this idea gives you anxiety, zen out 坐禅

............
....
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a lonely piece of white rice floats in a gigantic black ocean at night amidst a tsunami striking a nearby coral pink colored town

a small black pill bug, a rollieee polieeee if ye wheel rolleeng awound a planet of just white cotton with a turquoise peach pit core,

then pure darkness
then pure light

than pre white
than pra black

blk
wht

b
w
.
OMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmm.........
only THEN google reference image the crap out of drawing #2 and draw it now

THEN THEN THEN
last drawing #3 again,
after seeing ref do
from just your memory !

kekekeke
did you improve???! WE SH AL LS EE!
I WILL

DO AN ASUKA VERSION
TONIGHT

IN 4 15 MIN SEGMENTS

SO AT 3:13 AM (FIVE HOURS PRIOR TO THIS POST) EST BE GOOD TO DRAW CUS I WILL

15MIN MEDITATE (OR BONUS DOODLE TIME)
15MIN DRAW FROM MEMORY
15MIN DRAW WITH REFERENCE
15MIN DRAW FROM NEW MEMORY

THINK OF A CHARACTER THEN DRAW ALONGSIDE ME

DRAW

OR

D I E

SEE YA THEN
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>suddenly don't want to draw halfway
how to fix this? it keeps happening everytime I draw
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can you tell who this is
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>>7819789
a bad sly?
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>>7819789
It looks like fat Stallone
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>>7782607
Working on this



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