Realistically is it still worth building a following on X?
>>7801260Try for a month - a year. And come back.For now leave /ic/ and kys.
>>7801260best time to grow a following there was during the pandemic and before the muskrat took over. You can try at least, since that's the best place to build a following online still, UNLESS you're doing sfw animations which you would go to youtube and tiktak for. also what this guy said >>7801267
I have no fucking clue man, there are like 20 social media that do the same thing now.
>>7801642Are any of them well known like Twitter? The copycat never does well compared to the original.>>7801260Yes, it's worth building a following anywhere. If we're speaking how viable it is on Twitter compared to other sites, that's a bit difficult to say; really, what sites are there that could be considered even somewhat competitive against twitter?... Facebook? Insta? Pffft.Just go with twitter.
>>7801260Idk, im talking to the wind on mind cause fuck it. Everyone else gets to fart, why cant i fart? Fucking farters, they ruined fartland.
>>7801260What do you mean worth it? It's the most popular social media platform. A downside is you can get banned and lose your progress there. It's better than building your audience on an anonymous autism shitposting website that's for sure.
>>7801260if your goal is to "build a following" then you are doing art for the wrong reasons and probably won't have the motivation to develop your skills without the external incentive of fame and money.
Since this is a Twitter thread, does anybody know how to hide the location your account is based on from people? I know its possible, plenty of people Ive used as subjects dont display the place their account is from.
>>7801813I think the feature is rolling out. Not everyone can check/hide location yet.
>>7801816Oh alright then.I will wait a month and try again.
>>7801813You can check your own location on your profile already, but I'm 99% sure you can't check others yet (the images you've seen floating around have been either spoofs or posted by the account owners themselves)What are you hiding, N*g*t*r*o? :^)
I think we should start telling people to go on X so they waste their time and achieve nothing
>>7801260as soon as elon bought twitter my followers stopped growing completely. I've been stuck at 18k for 3 years.
/ic/ falls for the demotivation bait once again...
>>7801813under "about your account" you can change this at least
>>7801813like the other anon says, it's not public (yet)
>>7801260Knowing that X shadowbans any account posting drawings of genitals, isn't Pixiv still a better place for NSFW artist?My focus is to create ero doujin, I was thinking of using X as a marketing tool to sell people my ero doujin on DLsite, but it kinds of feel pointless if I can't even post any drawing of sex.So far I'm only posting SFW art on X because even posting the censored/cropped version of my NSFW art got me shadowbanned.
>>7801850It's public now :)
>>7801903what did you use to see those twitter metrics? Socialblade removed their twitter metrics a while back and can't track it anymore.
>>7801908damn, a lot of fags about to get exposed....
>>7801912tweethunter
>>7801920Shit. I'm not even Indonesian.
>>7801922...sure
>>7801932Tbf, there are dozens of races living in Indog islands. Wouldn't surprise me if he's a chink.
>>7801903>shadowbans"shadowban" on Twitter only means to limit the reach, not completely negate growth. You have to rely on people retweeting your stuff more, but hardcore coomers would still get recommended to your post. I know NSFW artists who grew a lot last year while being shadowbanned
>>7801920I'm guessing verified users can hide this
>>7801946Also it is not called shadowban but sensitive account.
>>7801948Yeah, Pirat_Nation shows nothing and we all know hes indian, Im sure its because hes verified.
>>7801952Nah, it just got hidden again. cause I can't check it anymore. Muskrat might make it a twitter blue feature cause money or a bug just happened.
>>7801952I was interested in finding out where all these AIsloppers are from but nearly all of them have verified accounts
>>7801954Damn youre right, its gone again.
>>7801948nope, it's been rolled back
>>7801955I already checked a good chunk of them and most are fucking seafaggots, while the rest are german or the US.
>>7801954Probably saw the API usage and shot it in the back of the head cuz we ain't can be havin' none of that
>>7801956for you to see pic rel >>7801959(not one of the sea fag accounts I was talking about.)
seems like i can only see the country on some of my accounts and others no but not for others
>>7801963it just got rolled back, anon. you missed out on it already.
>>7801965well that was fast
>>7801968I was able to check 2 people, then it got shoah'd
Perhaps some kind of A/B-testing?
>>7801849>>7801813This is bugged, it switched back to country after 5 minutes. Fortunately only you can see your own country.... FOR NOWt. Asia artist here
>>7801959Lots of artists are based on SEAs
>>7802066 But most of the al slop accounts are fucking sea faggots. No wonder that garbage is being spammed, cause those accounts spam that slop every second and get paid in twitter blue rev.
>>7802253India is not part of SEAs
letting you know, the country of origin feature will come back in like a couple of hours.
>>7802724Did they fix the glitch that showed stuff like the USA Homeland Security being based out of Israel?
>>7802724I guarantee Rao and the other pajeets have fixed it so that it won’t show “India” for their cousins.
>>7802253Fuck, I forgot to check all those "JP" AIslop accounts, I bet that at minimum 40% are made by chinks
>>7802777you're half right, it no longer shows on which country/continent the account has been made unfortunately. also it's up now
>>7802793Anything to protect their fellow pajeets.
You can select to show region or a specific country. Obviously if you want to larp as a Japanese, showing region “East Asia and Pacific” is obviously suspicious as fuck.
>>7802806I don't care if someone larps as japanese to draw. It's absolutely heinous when it comes to politics though
>>7802808>t's absolutely heinous when it comes to politics thoughA large amount of jap larp accounts got fucking exposed a day ago, it was funny as fuck. Most of the accounts were indo fags and shitters from germany.
>>7801920>All those Indians and fake Japanese users being exposed.I can't help but sit here and laugh.
>>7801260yesnever put all your eggs in one basket however
>>7802796>>7802793Goddamn whats the point then if they are you just going to nepo their way out of this.
>>7802852Erosion of privacy. Salami tactics. Same with age verification. It’s all moving towards real ID requirements to access websites and internet in general. I hope hell is real.
>>7802724cursed be the jeets, another thing they ruinat least this will hurt them a thousand times more
>>7802857I mean, if you believe pajeets etc. are part of rusian bot troll farm to screw with american politics, then surely you can imagine they have a solution for this. As always, this only screws the normal people.
What's wrong with using BlueSky? I've never used it—hell, I've never even used Twitter.
>>7802861Theres no one there.
It's back
lol
>>7802872also before anyone talks shit most these AI people that I've found are either from europe or east asia. I'm genuinely disappointed
>>7801920I'm pretty sure that guy is a Jap or at least some kind of asian.
>>7802883Yeah, surprise surprise, Europeans ruin everything.
>>7802883Yeah most AI image models created in US,EU,China after all
>>7801920this dude is taiwanese
>>7802901that makes it okay to larp as a jap? fuck him and fuck try
>>7802904he literally says in his bio that he doesn't understand japanese
>>7802909who? cyjalway? he uses japanese plentyonly pure yamato blooded nihojins should be able to speak japanese and draw anime anything less is an affront
>>7802911
>>7802913disgusting
>>7802862You dont want to see nothing but bots posting trump memes with 2000 likes each?
>>7801260Why are there so many people from Indonesia? I feel so lonely being the only of few Americans drawing anime smut. This would explain why it's so hard to connect with my fellow artists on a personal level. I'll give credit and say that the Japanese sure are dedicated to their craft. Indonesians are like a weird sister breed of the Japanese that are generally cold towards everybody and don't offer retweets. Americans like myself look like they're struggling tremendously, studying the wrong resources. Very few get to reach the consistency of the others. And also fall victim to fetish art or badly drawn furry porn.
>>7802934How much of the world percentage do you think America accounts for
>>7802934I told you before most artists especially nsfw artists are based in asia
>>7802936It's hard to say. I'd say realistically 20% in the artworld.But if I'm a nsfw hentai artist. That would make me like 2%. I honestly don't know that many.>>7802937Damn. If I knew this. I would've targeted Indonesian memes at my fellow artists to get the early boost. I'm not having fun with the internet anymore.
>>7801922Much better.Again, I'm not doing this to larp as Japanese. It's just that I draw lewd doujin with the Japanese as my target audience and selling porn in any form is illegal in Indonesia so I don't want to get ratted out if one day I became big.
>>7802945Don't listen to people that say you're larping or whateveryou're just being smart and covering your ass
>>7801835Elon wants people off of it. That's why he put in the reading tweet reply limit for non subscribers.
>>7801954>>7801960It's because there's a bunch of right wing accounts he reposted that aren't even from America. They're Indians.
>>7802945>selling porn in any form is illegal in Indonesia.That's interesting. But also sad. How do people learn how to have sex then without porn? And somebody would have to be really petty to rat you out I feel.
>>7802808>>7802815Japan elected lady Hitler leftards. Cope.
>>7802956They learn by having the sex talk or sex ed. Porn programs yiur brian with dangerous sexual urges.
>>7802965Your.
>>7802965>brain with dangerous sexual urges.I can't sleep at night if I don't masturbate. Not sure how porn can be dangerous. Just my opinion... it makes me feel better.
>>7802956Indo here. Some normies here really legitfully have no idea how sex work
>>7802960>lady hitlershe's just another meloni, enjoy your scheduled globohomo
>>7802872
>>7801260the internet is mostly not real, but fake followings might be legitimate atphttps://rumble.com/v17lfcr-newspaperman-describes-his-internet-experience.html?e9s=src_v1_cbl%2Csrc_v1_ucp_a
>>7801260Ehh...not really. but nowhere else has the same level of members to be half as useful as Twitter before Musk took over.2023- Twitter was basically a total necessity for an artist to get attention, make connections, and land work. Even if you hated it and hated everyone on it, it was still hugely important to post art on a semi routine basis and build up some notoriety. Musk turned the place into a political bitching shit flinging hellhole, that only kind of works half the time because he fired 90% of the staff years ago. He consistently promoted political hot topics, and fuels assholes who like to turn anything they see into something political based and bitch and moan at people all hours of the day an night. Meanwhile lots and lots of the people who were necessary contacts to land art jobs immediately left for Bluesky. But that place is seriously underpopulated and it is a lot harder to get any attention over there. So far there have been a lot of guys trying to take the place of Twitter like Bluesky, Threads, Mastodon, etc but no one has the same population numbers to make it as valuable as Twitter in its heyday.
>>7802965>Indonesia>sex talk or sex edlmao>>7802945As the very least you'll know whether the canaries are dying if krekkov gets beheaded
>>7802724Just like the last 10 or so things that has been unnecessarily added to Twitter since Musk took over. It's yet another>...but why? Who the fuck cares?kind of thing. It has been a series of new things absolutely nobody ever asked for, down to things that were not presently added to Twitter for a very good reason.
>>7802945I wonder how do they get away selling lewds in their "comiket".
That's interesting. Most of the interesting anime doodle/study accounts I follow turned out to be from the US or Southeast Asia.
Man I thought csr is from indonesia
>>7803030I like this new feature. It helps me understand why and who shares my posts.
>>7803050true renaissance saar
>>7801260Will this theoretical following give you money?
>>7801260There’s a lot less Americans than I assumed.
>>7802724>first stepwtf else they want to add?
>>7803007>Musk turned the place into a political bitching shit flinging hellholetell me you lean left without telling me>inb4 nu-uh
Wtf is this region shit? I want some damn privacy, how do I change it or turn it off?
>>7803159You can change it to only show your continent. You cant turned it off even with VPN enabled (although you can spoof them if you log out and consistently use VPN (needs confirmation))
>>7803159I saw a bunch ton of accounts not having it, seems they signed up from the web. One of the few good features from Xitter
>>7803007>Left leaning troon doesn't like seeing normal real world people interact at all.You lost faggot. Get the fuck over it.
>>7803007In 2016 you commies,trannies, women and sheboons set the precedent by banning any retard who even held mildly center or right conservative views,you faggots ruined it for all of us.
>>7803007Oh Noes!!! The fragile liberal started to see no no words and incorrect pronouns!!!!
>>7803007How to say you are a pathetic troon without fully admitting to be a pathetic troon.
>>7803201I signed up from the web and i still got it. Its inconsistent
>>7803262This.
>>7803242its literal karma honestly
>>7803007I don't disagree with a lot of this, but the problem is simple to solveMost of twitters user base has a dumb worldview that revolves around "we can't do anything on any other site", which is just a justification for them to keep using twitter, because its the only site that gives them attentionLook at bluesky or some shit, look at quickly they went back to twitter. Like >>7803267, a few years later, we'll probably be back because of what they'll do right now.This is what happens when a lot of your user base probably has a cluster B disorder. The left honestly deserves it for banning and silencing and cancelling every dumb 13 year old who wanted to be edgy. It's karma, but fortunes will change.Also post art >>7803253 >>7803248 >>7803242 >>7803223
Just out of curiosity, how many of you include your country in your Twitter profile? I'm not sure if I should do it.
>>7803271I mean, there is no negative, right? Picking “region” just signals people that you have something to hide or you are embarrassed of your country.
>>7803271You don't need to bother anymore, you will get exposed by X whether you want to put it out there or not
>>7803007All true but you're coming to the wrong conclusion. All the changes Musk forced on the platform made it objectively worse, even if you block and filter all the american bipartisan retardation out of your feed. Before him there were no blue checkmarkers impression farming every single thing that becomes mildly popular, no 7 new bots every day spamming my inbox, no algorithm suddenly shitting itself and making qrts mysteriously more valuable than impressions, no age verification fuckery randomly shadowbanning people left and right because they posted a character with their shoulders exposed. It just keeps getting worse month after month and all of it can be traced back straight to the rich mongoloid on top of the pyramid making a circus out of his incompetence.However I believe it is still a necessity. You should invest in Twitter because it's still the most active online forum, no matter how much worse it is, that's where the people are, that's where you'll get your commissions and patreon bux. Simultaneously post on Bsky and whatever other emergent platforms because they get inherently more valuable the shittier Twitter gets, but the biggest platform should still be your main focus.
>>7803271I put the least info possible when using any account, so region it ishowever I really dislike this move and consider deleting my account altogether
>>7802872At least this jeet is being honest about his AI usage. The more interesting ones are the AIfags who try to skinwalk as actual artists
>>7803279I like how Elon recently bragged about changing the "for you" algorithm with AI or some shit and so far I've only seen it just spam clickbait to the point I cant tell the difference between it and reddit when logged out.Twitter died for NSFW as well when Musk took over. The only accounts for that which took off are AI spammers that spam hundreds of slop posts and most only get like 2k followers from that. Fuck Elon.
>>7803284Name 5.
>>7803271Haha pussy
>>7803275I see people dismissing “Connected via” part. Try using your vpn or something, and your Play Store and App Store will still detect your country correctly. You won’t be able to download region-locked apps unavailable in your country for example. I see a lot of people using VPN to spoof the “Account based in”, the result is:1. Twitter gives a warning that the account may have used vpn.2. Connected via still shows you country’s app store anyways.
>>7803293Changing the setting to “region” affects both.
Welp i guess im gonna get arrested soon. 6 years of doing porn. Might get 60 years behind bars. Nice to see you bros
>>7801260>>7801839This, since Elon twitter doesn't work unless you're a 3rd worlder who buys twitter premium and posts rage bait.I've been seeing more action on Tumblr.imo with the current state of the internet you are better off building a reputation through smaller niche communities on 4chan, discord and even smaller websites and irl art clubs and organizations and funneling it to larger sites like twitter.
>>7803365Small places you recommend? Ive been thinking of using NeoCities and at this point even Tumblr.
>>7803409i'm only on tumblr at the moment. I used to use this japanese site, but haven't touched it in ages
honestly, i wouldn't follow anyone who is this worried about """"getting a following""""usually turn out to be retards and narcissistsMaybe you shoul-- nah, actually, be obsessed with building a reputation, it will definitely work,At least actual people will know to avoid you.
>>7803007Filtered faggot.
Twitter is on the way out. Too dumb and too brown and worsening quickly.Expect something new to take its place within the next 1-2 years.
>>7804388God I wish
can we get a script or an extension that bans accounts based in india or something, it would be great
>>7803293>You won’t be able to download region-locked apps unavailable in your country for exampleI fucking hate this so much. I used to be able to play JP play store games by installing them from QooApp or the APK but this no longer works. I feel cucked.
>>7804388Its too big to fail sadly
>>7804388they'd have to offer an actual alternative
>>7804488This but also Nigeria. Holy shit every fucking scam bot account is based in fucking Nigeria. Gotta give it to them though, keeping tradition alive with the whole Nigerian prince shit, scamming old boomers since time immemorial.
Txitter should honestly roll out a couple features where you can >block regions you don't see any posts from the blocked region and/or anything from you doesn't appear in that region eitherI'd definitely block anything out of the 3rd world like America, Mexico, Africa, China, Russia, India>block grey, yellow, blue checkmarksAnd if they remove all the bots, then the platform will be fixedWhen it does, i'll make an account
>>7803293Don't use it from a phone you fucking dumbass
>>7805134Some of artists are based on 3rd world country though. One of the most popular vocaloid artists are based in south east asia and pacific lol
>>7805244uhm... what the fuck am i supposed to do with that information?Are you retarded?
>>7805253Why you even bother ? Dont tell me you use twitter for politics lol. Go back
>>7805259Perfect example of why everyone should filter the 3rd world.
>>7805266Enjoy your tumblr art anon
Better than the hijab tranny porn you shartskins spam
>>7805272I think you people there rent freeing to Indians bit too much. This is why i told you to go back, or better : Stop using twitter for politics
>stop using twitterman, if brown people could only read
>>7805282Literally mindbroken. You cant even learn to quote properly lmaoAlso see pic
>>7805134>When it does, i'll make an account>sToP uSiNg tWitter GIMME THE (YOU)I know how to quoteits just weird how you're all so fixated on getting themkill yourself
>>7805292Yep, a schizo. Learn how to use a capitalization properly. Also, take meds
It do be weird how such a meaningless act of not (you)ing someone is suddenly used as an insult7805293kill yourself alreadyi mean it really in the most neutral way possibleyou are even a more useless waste of existence than i could ever be
>>7805294Last reply (You) gonna get because this is going nowhere and im not gonna waste my time to reply to a schizo who thought filtering countries on twitter is a good idea.
>literally mindbroken and seething over not getting a (you)
>>7805297
>"ur le ragebaiting me"nigga is unironically seething
>>7801260was any famous artist doxxed as an unconfident 3rd worlder?
>>7805455Derpixon is from southeast asiaDiives is from brazil
>mfw checking the About page
>>7805289Hate this lying sellout nigger like you wouldn't believe.
>>7801260Every mutual I have is struggling to get likes when they used to get lots of themI've had more success with Instagram these days
>>7801260No.
>>7805544Diives is from Chile though, all spanish speakers knew that.
>>7803312indobro?
>>7801260no, post on tiktok or Instagram if you're serious about becoming a professional artist.
>>7801260Why do you want a following?Twitter = best place to interact with other artistsInstagram = moneybsky = virtue signalling to the mentally ill, a giant discord server where everyone is scared of sharing their real opinionsNewgrounds = better chance of getting access to big animators
>>7801903I don't buy the whole shadowban thing on Twitter. There's plenty of NSFW artists that get 30K+ likes.If the art piece flops, you either posted at a bad time when the least people are awake, or the art just plain sucks
>>7806274Yeah, I'm also very skeptical. I think it's just people refusing to accept that they're boring. Every time someone complaints about being shadowbanned, you look at their media tab and it's 200 variations of the same drawing.
>>7806274>>7806279When even big accounts complained that they felt their reach have been debuffed, you know something is wrong with the platform.
>>7806327Big accounts like to rest on their laurels. NSFW artists are especially lazy. They're too used to everyone frothing at the mouth over giant tits to gauge what a reasonable reaction to their work looks like. After the shock value stops being a novelty they're donezo.
>>7806327>10 gazillion account engagement drops by 0.5%>"wow gaise im shadowbanned gaise pls reply"come on man, it's obvious that's just engagement farming
>>7806327images like these should really include the artists' art as wellbecause literally all of them are low quality porn slop or some variant of soulless renderfagging
>>7806327ok lets see their full most recent art posts>Zaphnart NSFW account so penalty by default 13k/16k/23k likehis works are decent but aren't great>Handplug NSFW account again11k/36k/17ka bit better than Zaphn but not that greatSound like they are doing ok. They reach their glass ceiling for their skill level
I mostly always see NSFW artists playing the victim in everything even when they're in the wrong.What is it with porn that attracts the most deranged, unhinged individuals that are unable to conceptualize the existences and thoughts of other people?People not wanting to gaze upon your loli furry cuminflation vore futa fat fart vomit fetish is not people being "puritans"
>>7808476Money.
>>7806327because they're hardcore botting with fake followers.
>>7805134they won't let you filter checkmark users since those faggots pay them
>>7808476Dont forget to go to church this sunday anon
>>7806341So art should only be seen if you're producing a ton of new stuff to post every day? What about hobbyists who might only get a chance to draw something every few weeks, does their art not deserve to make it to their followers? Corporate bootlicking mentality. Your art should make it to your followers regardless of how often you post. The platform shouldn't punish you for not being the top content creator by volume.>>7808476Bsky actually gives you the ability to tag whether your post is nsfw or not, a very basic feature that for god knows what reason twitter refuses to implement. They just blanket hide nsfw accounts from searches and restrict their reach which is stupid and unfair. Bsky also lets you filter out keywords you don't like. Just give people moderation tools and no one gets exposed to porn if they don't want to. This is a failure on twitter's part, not nsfw artists.>>7808459There is absolute garbage that makes it to huge numbers, it's just randomness and luck. Look up the artists like Choklit11 and try to figure out why they have 100k+ followers. Equating these things to skill will just drive you insane.
>>7810261>So art should only be seen if you're producing a ton of new stuff to post every day?I mean... yeah.You have to put in effort to make things people are interested in. Why do you think you deserve pity follows for NOT taking it seriously?>Equating these things to skill will just drive you insane.If you're a self defeating retard and fixate on outliers, sure. But the vast majority of big accounts are big because they provide consistent value to viewers. If you're not getting followers, it's probably because people don't like your work.
Twitter shitty algo remains a fact though no matter if your art is shit or not
>>7810270You've moved the goalpost from "skill" to "value". Lowest common denominator gooner slop and engagement bait served up daily is more value by the metrics of social media than infrequent posts regardless of the time investment and care taken.
>>7810286And this matters how?
>>7810287Explained in the second sentence of the post.
