>stunts a generation of artistsWhy did he do it?
It never seizes to amaze me that people can genuinely recommend this dogshit course made by a man who cannot draw anything that doesn't immediately evoke a sense of disgust. The first rule of any courses regardless of what is being taught is to check the portfolio of the guy trying to teach you. And Irshad only ever made garbage so trusting his advice seems counter productive
>a box huh? i-i could try a box that's not too intimidating..
>>7812589This shit fucking kneecapped me for almost 2 years. Just starting and stopping because I wasn't making any progressAdmittedly a lot of it was my own fault but everyone on the internet was so insistent that Drawabox was the first step. At a certain point I decided I was done with it, that I didn't care anymore and I went straight to figure drawing and anatomy, no more perspective and 3D forms bullshit. That's when I finally started learning how to draw.
>>7812589Draw a box isn't bad. Its pretty great way to introduce people to the concept of perspective. Whats retarded is it basically instills in new artists that the best way to "get gud" is to complete a bunch of meaningless tasks. Most artists aren't actually wired to just do courses 24/7 most people learn by trying to x thing failing and then using resources. Unfortunately draw a box in my opinion hamstrings artists because it conditions unrealistic expectations of learning. Not because its dog shit.
he's indian what did you expect>>7812599not true, while he indeed only draws disgusting shit, he can draw, we can only learn the technicals, what we do with it is on us
Krenz's method of drawing boxes is 10 times better and way easier for an actual beginner to learn without studying perspective.The norling perspective book is everything a beginner needs in terms of perspective.
>>7812599>>7812848To me, Drawabox is a lot better than Loomis, Hampton, Proko, or any of the other beg recommendations.Like most of /ic/, you're only aspiring to draw porn for the instant gratification anywayyou need only walk the way of your own choosing, OP
>>7812589By being brown
Some of the ideas are ok and it appeals to a certain demographic who can't get into drawing without extreme structure. I don't think the guy is a scammer or anything and he seems to continually be updating the material so I would put DaB pretty low on the list art grifters. I learned that I didn't tolerate that kind of structure in my learning very well, which was important for me.
>>7813324You're not convincing anybody If all you post is your practice sheets done in a vacuum. It'll be a lot more convincing if you actually finished projects
>>7812589Brah, this literally made me drop drawing years ago. Just started again last month with keys to drawing and guess what? I am actually drawing stuff. Gonna do loomis next.
>>7812589>Drawabox>Author can't draw an anime girl inside the boxThis is where East Asians win the art race.
>>7812599>e made by a man who cannot draw anythingRossDrawsPikatProkoetcAll western artists are frauds to be quite honest.
>>7813324you can't say that and not post your work. show us your full illustration of characters interacting.
>>7813324>lines meant to define a face are all jank as shitif you laugh you go to hell
>>7813350>says the anon, while trashing drawabox without posting a single piece of work
>>7813345Rajesh, don't turn this into a west vs east fight.Draw a box is still a waste of time shilled by redditors and fat women.
>>7813398You want that anon to post boxes lmao, but why you mad tho defending irshad does he pay you to shill.
>>7813334>average drawabox studenthttps://youtu.be/19Movmhb-gI?si=UnDP3G6hGhoBCyOI
The first couple lessons + the box challenge are genuinely valuable imo. Shit can be tedious but the exercises are simple and straight to the point so there's no way you can get lost.After that everything gets increasingly shitty because the guy has improved his teaching skills but never updated the later lessons, so you're stuck with 10 year old videos of him struggling to explain complicated concepts he clearly didn't understand well at the time.
>>7812589I wasted like a hundred hours on this shit. On the bright side of things I'm really fucking good at drawing boxes.
What I learned reading this thread is that some shit works for some people and some shit works for other people. This has undermined my trust in people's advice and now I'm feeling paranoid over following the wrong advice.
>>7812599Damn, he's ugly.
>>7814329Bro you dont gotta over react. Its worth trying new stuff but you just gotta be aware of when you feel something isnt right for you. Just be smart enough and self aware enough to know that if you try something for a while and it doesnt feel right at first you should trust yourself and drop it and try something else. It shouldnt take years too mind you, you should be able to tell within like a week
>>7812589Erm, is it really that bad? I started it recently and almost completed the first lesson. My main reason to choose this was the structure. It has steps that needs to be followed. And without it I'm completely lost, I don't know what to do.I thought i was a good starting point, though these 250 box drawing challenges looks really intimidating.What better courses I can follow then?
>>7812589What makes it so bad? I never did it early on and never will, but I hear about it often. pic unrelated
>>7814375Don't make choices based on 4chan shitposts. If it's giving you the drive to put your pencil down and start drawing then it's good. I think the biggest flaw is how long it takes to start drawing things you wanna draw and not just shapes and lines. Other courses get you to start using shapes and forms to build the things you're trying to draw a lot faster whereas DaB wants you to grind out those forms for longer before you move on to applying them.
>>7812848Personally, since I am not mentally handicapped, I am capable of mixing up my internet curriculum. So, some days I continue the drawabox course and other times I study figure drawing or draw whatever I want.But of course, I understand that some people are simply too retarded for this, and that's fine. I. However, am not like that.
>>7813294>indianBoth Irshad and Karim are arabic names...
If you start drawing boxes your gonna quit in 3 days. Better go draw anime tits or something, or Minecraft porn if boxes are easier.
>>7814416I get that gist that dab mainly filters coom-motivated artists and everyone picked it up, learned stuff, then put it down with no issue
>>7814412Indians can have arabic sounding names
>>7814412>>7814445>Arabs != IndiansPotato Potato
>>7814474>Never heard of muslims in subcontinent Dumb nigger
>>7812589He is not the problem. (You) are the problem.Your obsession with finding an easy cure-all approach for drawing is what made him popular in the first place, and the realization it does not automatically fix everything for you is why you hate him now. You'll do this again with the next art-ed fad you find. And the next.You incentivize people like him to over-complicate a small topic to make money off of it. Drawing a box is a very tiny subject. The complexity is in application. You get that mileage, not endless theoretical discussion of it.
>>7813238It’s shit at introducing perspective though. Plop random points, draw lines through them, did you get it? No? Just try another 249 times! Get it now? Let’s move on. That’s not how it fucking works. It’s blatantly obvious when someone followed DAB and stopped there in terms of perspective. Retarded shifted projections, unhinged vanishing points, extreme field of view. Pure cancer.
>>7814375>is it really that badWhen you realize the course is 100+ exercises about drawing boxes in perspective yes
How do you guys do something while doing another thing?
>>7813394kek. I like autists like you
>>7813294HES INDIAN? and a redditor, why dont you guys mention shit like this, im looking at his artstation account, i even draw better than him
>>7814474Indians, Bangladesh, Pakistani, south Asian/Middle East they can have similar sounding names if they're muslims.
>>7817224DaB got shilled a lot by redditors so that's an obvious sign that it's not a particularly useful course. Hell when does redditor know anything about art?
>>7812589Why do so many people on this board not listen to the 50-50 rule he states way at the beginning of the course? Of course you'll burn out if you do nothing but exercises like that. You learn quicker and better when you put it into practice drawing something you like.
>>7813418nigga just kill me
Is he gonna make it lads?
>>7819573He'll be an art youtuber no. 456367
>Kim Jung Gi and Peter Han teaching the same bullshit>/ic/:wooow, respect the masters…>Drawabox>/ic/: ABSOLUTE REDDIT COURSE
>>7812589I dont even know what drawabox really is but I always assumed its something you do 5-10min for warmup before you practice actual art skillsIf people treated drawing boxes as a full program they were retarded lmao
>>7819620“warming up” is also a meme. Do you need to “warm up” when you start the car in the morning? No, your brain already knows how to drive the car.
>>7819620>5-10min for warmup Nope, the 50-50 rule that Drawabox recommends is you spend 50% of your time practicing drawabox and the other 50% drawing other stuff.
>>7819643Warmup is to get into the correct mood
i've never sat down to do a formal study before so the first few lessons were actually really good because they helped me intuit some stuff I never really thought about before but ADHD got the best of me and so I stopped doing it after those lessons. my handwriting and imaginary apple rotation are better now so i cant say it didnt help
>>7817347no one actually reads the instructions for some reason
>>7819573How to stop drawing speedrun
>>7819620Anytime you ask on leddit for a beginner friendly course you'll keep seeing people shilling DaB like it's the next coming of Jewsus
>>7813418the more videos i see like this, the less i believe in the value of hard work.how the fuck do you spend all this time on learning observational drawing, understanding form and inventing figures from imagination and still be so fucking bad at it? maybe i really am gifted, maybe this isn't something any dickhead can achieve with enough effort.
The amount of seethe that the 250 box challenge causes is glorious. Dab is worth it just for that alone. >The path to artistic success is littered with the bodies of those who were filtered by the 250 box challenge. t. anon
>>7820585We should all thank Irshad for unintentionally filtering permabegs
I fell for this beg trap when i started and wasted time so everyone else must also do the same, there is too much competition anyways, if you end up getting filtered by this you were ngmi anyways
>>7812589Why would anyone listen to this poopjeet lol?
>>7813294>>7813331>>7813407>>7821488Dumb anglocuck asspie "man"-CHILDREN seething over the fact that they have to learn from an Indian MAN. Who also mogs them and rake in more cash then they can ever dream of.Bet they are even shorter than him and Indians are not know to be tall.
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>>7821488>look at the tree brush strokes>look at the grasses>look at the way he paint the cleaver>look at the way he painted the beltsWhat the heck I didn't realize I could already draw like this. Fuck I guess I'm brown now.
>>7823819That's quite a low bar to pretend to be able to pass.
>>7812589There’s a reason the common wisdom was that it’s only worth doing until lesson 2. Once you know how to draw a box or cylinders you can move on
>>7823551cope Timmy, Irshad at least did something to uplift himself. Something you are incapable of!
>>7823839Why not go through construction?
>>7823839the box drawing is the most damaging one though
>>7823960>damagingYou just draw a bunch of fucking boxes and move on with you life. If you don't like it you stop early. You faggots are so fucking dramatic
>>7823839>>7823958There are more efficient way of learning construction. Dynamic sketching, The Art and Science of Drawing, Fun with a pencil and How To Draw Comics The Marvel Way don't take 5 months or 2 years to finish. At most it's 2 months, but I work under the assumption you are studying them 2-4 hours a day.How Irshad manage to sell his bloated course to the masses and compete with the mentioned books is a mystery.
>>7823962it is, if you have no reference. if all you encounter about perspective is from dab your understanding will be severely impaired.
>>7812589drawabox is stupidhere's how you learn how to draw>observational drawings: spend 50% of your time looking at the subject, spend 50% of your time drawing (use a marker on glass instead of pencil and paper for efficient results)>contour drawings: spend 15-30 minutes doing blind contours of your subject>draw upside down: take your photograph or picture and flip it, then draw what you see>tracing: print out pictures and photographs, and trace them with tracing paper or with a marker over glass>cognitive/memory drawing: look at the subject, then look away and draw it from memory - then draw again while looking at the subject, and repeat (for best results, repeat 20-30 times)Do this, and you can draw anything.
>>7823962That anon is just doing everyone a favor by warning everyone to not start DaB at all.
>>7823970>The Art and Science of Drawingboring book with the same meme exercises like "draw 250 circles then 250 squares">Dynamic sketchingto be quite honest if feels like a shallow meme course>Fun with a pencilhas a horrible start with all those ugly old dudes, also doesn't explain how to get proportions, angles, symmetry etc right>How To Draw Comics The Marvel Waycompletely useless meme book
>>7812589You don't need more than this
>>7824785wish someone made a modern/PC version of this
>>7824767what the fuckhow did you learned draw then?
>>7812589Its good up until he asks you to draw like 1000 boxes with no regards to perspective. Im thankful I dropped it there.
>>7813324Drawabox is not better than Loomis, like at all. Loomis is not only a better artist, but he is a better teacher
>>7825021who is this Andrew Loomis guy anyway? I never seen his artworks. Is there any gallery or portfolio or something idk i just want to see his artworks.
>>7825039This has to be bait lmao
>>7825050wot
>>7812589i got a box addiction from this guy. now I can't stop drawing boxes. I only thing about boxes. box is life.
>>7825052I didn’t think you were being serious because Loomis is so well known. Look up the Loomis method, his name, and here’s a pdf to his books . He is a highly well regarded and well respected draftsman, most known for the Loomis method of drawing the head. Proko has a video on it https://www.alexhays.com/loomis/
>>7825055just saw his few finish artworks of him.damn, they're so good.
>>7824977I did learned to drawed by observed the natured worlded
>>7812589When I first started drawing, everyone was saying "You have to do this first or you will NEVER be good". It's a sound way to make you understand perpsective and some concepts, but done in a vacuum it's utterly meaningless. This guy and every shill of his managed to make people believe that to be good at drawing you have to spend 100 hours doing chores instead of having fun.
>>7819573>6 views How do you find these guys?
>>7819573awful pen grip
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