I regret becoming an engineer instead of an artist
something something greener
>>7816395I have a degree in industrial design, but I do illustration for a living. You are just making excuses.
>>7816395i'd kill for a engineer title
>>7816395I wish I was an engineer so I could make enough money to comfortably live while doing art on my own time
unless you are absolutely old as shit, changing careers is an option. if you are starting from square one artistically it will be a long and arduous path, as it would be if a career artist who'd never done math or science past high school decided to become an engineer. but that doesn't mean it's impossible.If you are committed, passionate, and have the time, basic skills, and intelligence necessary to learn something new, you can pull off a career change.
>>7816395You can use what you learned abiut blueprints to draw better. And you chose right, you have a real job with money so you can afford to learn to draw in your spare time. As opposed to an artist that has no money…
>Be me>CS degree>Get a programming job with good salary while still living with parents and just saving/investing most of my money>Quit after 7 years with plenty of money to live off of/still grow and pursue art and other hobbies as I please with no financial pressures
You say that, but most of the people who choose stable careers take up things like art later in life and become proficient, some even become great. Choosing a creative career is ALWAYS a gamble. While you did choose the safer route, you also don't have the noose of AI around your neck or other miscellaneous bullshit.
>>7816511I did the same thing but just ended up broke anyways. Guess that's the difference of doing something with a plan and doing something thinking it'll be a stable income.
no time like the present
>>7816395being an artist IS being an engineer. except if you want to be a successful and popular artist you have to constantly "invent" new amazing things.
>>78163951980s manga had to power through Engineering school before drawing their Shonen/Loli works. Skill issue
>>7816395Both can't pay the bills lmao
>>7816395Be both, scrub. Skill issue. >be engineer >use tech industry knowledge to invest>financially independent goof off and draw what I want
I went to university for computer science, 2 job 2 years. Livewith parents on savings, i have about 6 months before i am physically forced to get a job.
>>7816395dont underestimate the advantage in being an engineer, it's huge if your intention is to design things like props, mechs
>>7816946scoliosis
>>7816395dude you can just draw anyway. unless you are in an industry that requires like 70hrs/wk, you can draw on your free time. it's just harder to motivate yourself because there's less time and energy for it, which is actually better because it weeds out nodraws instantly
>>7816946Now that's my position. Even did traditional after seeing the rise of AI. Except I hate gooner bait.
>>7816395I know you are a larp because if you really were an engineer, you'll be thinking of ways to speed up your art progress.
>>7816395I am both. But I gave up social life for that
>>7816511You're assuming you'd remain the same person in your 23's and in your 30's. And assuming you are absolutely gonna make that money and not get lifestyle inflation. If you're making good money chances are you'd get a nicer car, nicer house, and later on get married and having kids.
>>7817013I try not to make them too much gooner bait, the brush pen i use works only well on nude women
>>7817034I like that much more. Is your issue that you have no artist friends and all of them are hyping up this getting replaced by AI? That's my predicament.
>>7817036We wont get replaced by ai soon, the ai isnt good enough, my worry is about making an income, when im working im so drained that i cannot draw. The top paid illustrators are who make the generic woke shit. Its all clique and reputation. You can make shit art but market it will with influencers. Theres this idea though, ai art only hurts the digital artists, so i think there will be a big return to traditional art . What im going to do is make a website where you buy the drawing for your, and so not doing prints. Anything so i dont have to die in a job
man this reminds of the people who were into drawing and asking what do for work and they said software engineer its like there soul vanished should people just abandon stability and being responsible if it means staying close to what they truely want to do
>>7817040>We wont get replaced by ai soon, the ai isnt good enough, my worry is about making an income when im working im so drained that i cannot draw.Agreed and I'm in the same boat as you. Namely I realize how shitty the job market is even for tech so I figured why not actually do my passion instead of just being unemployed after a year again anyways.>The top paid illustrators are who make thegeneric woke shit.I'm learning how much connections matter when getting things. Almost matters more than the artwork itself. I was only very recently able to get a glimpse of help from one of my friends at work and I'm just praying it'll take me anywhere.
>>7816468>i have a degree in drawing but i draw for a living
>>7816395Engineer to Artist Chad here. This is my progress after spending like 2 hours on Keys to Drawing Chapter 1 from never drawing before. The best advice is to literally just "draw" it doesn't matter what book you use. People recommended about the Drawing on the Right Side, but the author yaps about esoteric occult stuff which I am not saying is bad, but I prefer reading actual esoteric books for that stuff.Keys To Drawing gives you fundamentals to actually judge your own progress, while you progress. I am planning to do Loomis next.
>>7816395You'd regret becoming an artist ten times more.
>>7817114Nah, an engineer reads books created by others, gain knowledge discovered by others, work for others, etc. An Engineer is paid, to be extremely monotonous, replaceable cog in a machine, you are not allowed to express any individuality because then you are a cog that cannot be replaced.Meanwhile, Art is a mirror inside you.
>>7816395Im an electrical engineer student, i always draw while in class when im bored and sleepy and i look at tutorials on youtube when im motivated. I dont wish to turn this hobby into soulless work and end up ruining the fun.
>>7817116>Art is a mirror inside youAnd then no-one cares because you didn't cater to them specifically, or repeat the same jokes everyone else told, or rip of other artists, etc.
>>7817131>And then no-one cares because you didn't cater to them specifically, or repeat the same jokes everyone else told, or rip of other artists, etc.Because you don't know the "big" secret. This "secret" applies to every single media, including arcade games, movies, novels, comics, etc.And it is... Human beings are not rational animals, as Edward Bernays proved. Anything that earns money, will be a target of industrialization, followed by conditioning. Casuals are retards that make you rich, while living a casual life. https://youtu.be/vr20hbn_kekThe challenge for you as an intellectual human being is to farm these casuals, by giving them whatever poison they want, doing commissions, following the trend, etc.And deliver your peak for your target audience that actually care about what they consume. This requires having faith in your abilities, ideas, etc.
>>7817137oops forgot the timestamp on the radio, 30:15
>>7817138>radiofuck, its video
>>7817047Even OpenAI realizes the AI 'revolution' isn't as disruptive as they thought it would be. It'll just be another dotcom bubble where tech companies overinvested on the infrastructure for AI when there isn't enough demand for the large scale universal AI LLM processing.And the dotcom bubble was more than just companies invested in some domain names. There's also infra companies like Cisco building in the backend / infrastructure of the early internet.
>>7817180Do yourself a favor and watch this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxkUvXs-hoQThe guy literally btfo every AI shill, ray tracing shill, etc. proving how these bubbles work and even provides proof about how this AI bubble is not new.
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>>7816395I'm an engineer. I love art but it's not my only personality, being a nerd doing tech stuff matters to me too.I get my fix of that at work. Then I come home and draw to my content.I'm planning what >>7816511 is doing though. If my investments work out I could earn a reasonable amount per year (adjusting for inflation) until my death.I'll still be living with my parents... But I don't mind it.>>7816986I work on engineering drawings every day, trust me it's not creative. You're just meticulously digging through something before you send it off to the manufacturer.Having a detailed apple imagination from art helps... but most people here are at level 0 so no amount of describing will help them understand, you'll have to do a model or something.(1/2)
>>7817020>lifestyle inflationthis is really key, actually. My solution to controlling that is to budget, count, and note-down every penny. I only spend within my budget, which is my target investment income MINUS savings. Any bonuses I get (which are kinda paltry here), half get thrown in the investment fund and the other half I get as "extra" in case I want something special like a video game but that's it.>>7817116Most the projects here would screech to a halt if an engineer or two quit, you really don't know what you're talking about>>7817114All the artists I know are working dead-end jobs. They all had huge follower counts, great skill, started at an earlier time in social media so it was easier...Ones an office worker, the other is a waitress.I just don't see how artschool would have benefitted me like OP implies.(2/2)
>>7817245>Most the projects here would screech to a halt if an engineer or two quit, you really don't know what you're talking aboutokay jon, back to working on your game
just be both, like all of us
>>7817101oh wow!!!! your gud!!!!!
>>7816395Mechanical engineer hereIt didn't stop me of trying to draw anime titties
>>7816395Pursue art as a hobby, be an engineer professionallyI had no idea how hard it was to be an artist for a living, sure you can get up to $10k a year but $50k? And most of the time you end up having to draw things you don't fully enjoy to get that bag
>>7816395>I regret getting a financially stable job instead of getting a useless degree and ending up as an elementary teacherJust draw on the side man it's not that hard
>>7816395i regret you were born too
>>7816992Did the wings
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>>7817244We have a lot in common, anon. I have seen many of my artist friends struggle to make a living, even going into menial jobs to sustain themselves, and I'm glad I chose the path of engineering to sustain my hobby. You also discover a lot about yourself, new interest and outlooks from studying and exploring>>7817295Those are some good titties anon, keep it up
>>7817673> I'm glad I chose the path of engineering to sustain my hobby.I wish I could find something sustainable on the local end for me. I went under the computer science route which meant all my jobs were mostly corporate, highly competitive, and mostly soul crushing. I feel really, really dumb.
>>7816483you would make enough money to live quite comfortably, but you wouldnt have time or strength for a hobby anywayits a very time consuming job, not to mention the knowledge you need, money for all the tools and stress from dealing with all the administrative shiti just work for an engineer and i wouldnt want to be in his position at all, just being an architect is already a pain in the ass, especially the paperwork
>>7816395I also relate to the engineer/computer science people in this thread since I'm in the same boat. I've graduated recently but before I enrolled in computer science I was stuck in some other biology-related field which I hated. I got lucky transferring programs because if I didn't get into computer science I would have seriously considered art school despite all the advice against it here. Maybe it wouldn't have been as bad given programming as a profession hasn't been doing well. I worked hard to have a job out of college but with the same amount of work I'd probably be doing fine as well pursuing art... maybe.
>>7817116You’re thinking of technicians, not engineers. Engineers are paid for their designs, technicians are paid to put them together.
>>7818246Bruh those are Architects or Designers, they design Blueprints, requirements, etc. Engineers are the ones who memorize X,Y,Z, to figure out if it is possible or not. And built that shit using the recipe they learned while wasting years of their lives. The truth is simple, Engineers are "cogs", easy to use, replace, maintain, cheap, etc.
>>7816395Engineering is a art. You literally make stuff.
Holy fuck, engineers are trying so hard to cope. Just accept it, you pushed yourself into the industrial pipeline, only to become a wagie that is replaced every few years.
>>7817116holy envy
>>7816395designing art using an engineer's skillset and attention to detail is the proper way to do art. everything must be on-model and consistent.
>>7817799>WOTC artistsIt's worth mentioning Kopinski is mostly self taught afaik, probably RKF as well purely going off of how insane his style is. Art school will at best teach you some of the basics but you need to just DIY if you want to stick out
>>7818315High engineering, like an MRI machine is 20 000x the art your shitty doodle ever will be. Engineer GAWDs spawned every single luxury in your life.
>>7818665>spawned every single luxury in your lifeYeah, I love eating microplastics.Yeah, I love consuming over dramatized slop.Yeah, I love playing muh video gaymes.Yeah, I love consuming generic digital media.Yeah, I love how CGI becomes more homogeneous every year.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUw55rnjoe8Lmao, keep coping.I don't care about any of your "luxury". I am a ink/paper guy, everything else like converting it to digital, etc. are things even a trained monkey can do.Its funny how "engineers" love their "progress" so much.But you are still ignoring my fact. Engineers are designed and educated to be a wage slave and replaced.
>>7817244As a guy who is really passionate about art, my father is a organic chemist/chemical engineer, very STEM gifted in terms of thinking outside the box, I'm just, pretty pictures guy. I appreciate engineers and your image made me lol this is some of my art
They teach drawing fundamentals in engineering. Just practice.
>>7819298You do in fact love the existence of plastic, movies and video games. Engineers made all your art toys too, digital and physical. You're just conceited and disingenuous, such a shit personality.
>>7819499Yes, king I really love eating microplastics, I love drinking fluoride. I love consuming the latest trendy slop movie/video gayme, etc.
>>7819501You consume anime so yeah, you do indeed like slop media for the lowest common denominator.
>>7816395Me too.>>7816483I don't even have a job.
The fact that you’re posting shit like this tells me you’re the type who’d get laid off cuz there’s a new model that can do your job faster. What kinda faggot tries to humble brag on this board?
