I have 3 days off to draw

>>7821687
are you drawing every day?

>>7821692
not in the past few days

>>7821703
what's your normal schedule like? even small adjustments for 15 minutes first thing/early in the morning can have big effects long-term.

>>7821652
>Been a while since we had last one of these
Yeah. I had pent up shit to say and now I just forgot most of it.
I kind of remember one thing.
https://youtu.be/FdDsnwp1e1o?t=790
It was this video, it's worth watching it through its entirety. It made me think about how you can see art and engage with it with the same love he does for cooking. It feels like it should be obvious to think this way and how to relate with nature and to respect it, to be a vessel to communicate your experiences and what it says about you. There's a lot that art can do for you if you're willing to let it enrich your life, it's a mistake to think it's just about the end result or being proficient at using a tool (and no, that thing you're thinking about isn't a tool, not all gaslighting in the world will make it true), a small change of perspective can permeate how you perceive life, it should be easy, but it's even easier that our ego dilutes our understanding of it.

>>7821652
I made a thread about asking the relationship between SMV (person's attractiveness) and his chances of being GMI but the tranny mods deleted it.
I still have the doubt.

Do you really think an ethnic, pajeet/latino, brown, short, balding, with acne and fat subhuman incel who is also an IQlet and talentless is able to he GMI?

Just look at Pewdiepie and how he went from /prebeg/ to /pro/ in a quarter of the time a permabeg spic is still struggling with Draw a Box
And the chink /pros/ are MTN (in their countries)

>>7821791
Also keep in mind that the permaprebeg latino/jeet is KHHV and never had kissed/hugged or held hands with a foid

>>7821791
It's just access to resources and proper inspirations.

>>7821792
>>7821791
Just create something people will love. Stop worrying about what you can't change.

>>7821791
>>7821792
You must have quite a few mental illnesses if that's how you talk about yourself. You will never make it with that attitude, so why are you even asking?

>>7821842
And it's not because of the "attitude" but your looks, you silly troon

>>7821879
And your life is shit because you're hideous? That's the retarded attitude I'm talking about. Just fuck off already. I bet you haven't even tried to actually draw yet.

>>7821791
>Do you really think an ethnic, pajeet/latino, brown, short, balding, with acne and fat subhuman incel who is also an IQlet and talentless is able to he GMI?
I don't think everything before IQ and talent matters here, but for the latter two I'm agnostic. I don't think people who are affirmatively optimistic about average/low-IQ people necessarily being able to make great conventional representational art have the knowledge they claim to possess in order to say such things, but at the same time someone who is high enough functioning to move his limbs, put down a mark on a canvas, write coherently enough, etc.: it's not obvious that they're doomed just because they have no talent (which is quite a nebulous term itself). if you haven't exhausted your options, you can't say you know your lot is hopeless; and just because you fail something 99 times doesn't mean you'll necessarily fail the 100th time.

>>7821791
not really, some ugly motherfuckers have produced beautiful artwork
it's more a matter of taste and IQ

>>7821879
>And it's not because of the "attitude" but your looks, you silly troon
no it literally is, i genuinely have no idea how you look, but even if you were a 10/10 androgynous twink with the perfect body and sense of style i wouldnt touch you with a 12 foot pole because even minimal exposure to your utter dogshit personality already gives me all the information i need to avoid you (aka: you are so fucking miserable i dont wanna be near and end up being caught in one of your fits of uncontrolled rage)

Of course it's the most dipshit ragebaiting post the one that gets people's attention.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKTWOVQ2Uk4
Here's some trad artist struggling with perspective, humbling himself through the process of coming with a painting of his own using the methods he acquired, it's quite nice to see his progress.

>post work
>thread dies for like 6 hours
>another anon posts
>thread revived and gets 5 (you)s
>my post is ignored
I'd rather have a bunch of crabs tell me my work is dogshit then be ignored :(

>>7822687
jace just has that power over anons. but count your blessings that you are not jace

>The couple for whom I have been writing and drawing a short comic have decided that they would like the events of the last page to be spread over two more
So close, yet so far away... I hope I can get rid of this fucking couple before the end of the year.

I really have not been feeling art lately. I still doodle like I always do but I don't think I'm going to bother going out of my way to finish a piece anytime soon. I'm just so bored of my art, and practicing is so mind-numbing; I'm not getting anything out it and none of it sticks to my regular drawings.
But I don't have anything else to do, maybe I'm just screwed.

Guys have you heard new drug that’s supposed to reverse aphantasia it’s called pilideo and should be hitting the market in a couple of years but a friend of mine is in the trials and he says it’s improved his ability to draw 100x can you imagine that?

>>7822796
>can you imagine that?
not with my aphantasia.

I can't plan what I draw more than 90% of the time. I just doodle what's most fun and then I have to suffer the consequences of my actions when of course there's no composition to speak of and I can't figure out what goes where. I'm trying to force myself to do thumbnail sketches but it's just not fun. Maybe I can try to experiment by drawing what I want in the moment then shrinking it down to thumbnail size and figuring the rest out from there?

>>7822713
This troubles me, when you do commissions, where do you draw the line on what you're not willing to do? I've always felt like people would be willing to ask you things that would be out of your scope, it's not like you can name a list of things you won't do, but I assume they would be adjusted enough to look at my work and not ask me something that isn't far away from that.

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>finally have a long-term goal of making a video game to tell my stories
>now whenever I'm not doing anything related to the game I feel guilty and like I'm wasting precious time
I enjoy drawing my OCs, I like having a long-term goal I want to work towards...
But I hate this nagging feeling of guilt over every little drawing

It's been hard to get myself to finish anything that isn't a character sheet or something.

>>7822940
this is me except i don't even feel guilty. "productive" procrastination is fucked up

>>7822940
Maybe it's cope but I like to think I'm continuously soaking in inspiration. Sometimes I see something new or a design I like. I read or watch something new and find out that I actually quite like it. But I hate passing around the same character concept pages or making new ones sometimes. I really want to make a new illustration. I'm trying to convince myself to make something cool about my ocs because they'd be even better introductions than a character sheet.

>>7822924
It's a problem I've had to deal with for years, and it's caused me a great deal of trouble. I'm planning to take certain measures to avoid these problems in future, including getting rid of these troublesome clients by completing one final job for each of them. I don't think this is the best solution, but if you find it useful, here's what I'm planning to do:
>create a price list
>create a list of things I really like to draw
>create a list of things I refuse to draw
>ask the client to define their ideas before starting work on their project
>help them with the above if necessary.
>ask for an advance payment either before you start or after you show the first sketch
I know many of these suggestions are painfully obvious, but when I had no experience of dealing with clients, I accepted their offers out of politeness and got a lot of these annoying ones. If you're known for creating comics, be especially careful. Those kinds of projects tend to cause all kinds of problems, especially with people who expect you to write, illustrate and paint a page for twenty dollars. Don't expect the things they ask you to do to resemble what you usually draw. In my experience, the vast majority will ask you to do things that have little to do with your usual work.
I wish you the best, anon.

clip studio paint takes so long to open, like almost a minute sometimes. it kills my motivation to draw since I have to sit there in silence alone with my thoughts while waiting for it to start up. My brain uses that time to come up with reasons to not draw.

>>7823417
Photoshop takes longer to open when you start to accumulate a lot of brushes. Could that be the same cause?

why does it take years to draw at a half decent level (and even longer for most) yet anime is animated by hundreds of people who are underpaid and overworked?

Are all these animators secretly god level artists and just choose to be animators? Make it make sense. How can they draw so well as a job while I'm here constantly CTRLZing.

>>7823697
there are lots of average artists in animation, and i dont mean beg just not the pros you see blowing up on twitter/big names. they often need their work corrected by people higher in the pipeline such as animation directors who are usually getting closer to the god tier artists. they have to redraw a shit ton of keyframes, naturally this leads to way worse burnout even if you're a god tier artist, for example the chief animation director for frieren s1 recently stepped down due to the overwork

>>7823697
I think it's a Disney issue. Tons of artists are taught to worship The Brand and gaslit into thinking they want to slave away on some dumb corpo shit like it's a big privilege.

>>7823709
so the anmation director actually draws? I always thought they are just directing the animators and giving them references and stuff. That's interesting that they have to fix all the animations from their team.

Just turned down a free $3000 because the guy messaging me about it was a Brazilian who had dollar comm sheets

>>7823697
Every unskilled animator is this close of being outsourced to a vietnamese sweat shop where there is no shortage of relatively competent drawslaves. And I say unskilled because in spite of being really good, it takes a lot more than that to ascend into the kind of elder god they put in charge of keyframing, correcting etc. So they get paid and treated like shit until they learn enough to be difficult to replace.
This causes another huge issue: most new animators dont make it 3 years into this industry, which aggravates the shortage of GOOD animators required to teach them the ropes. Pair that with the fact that the industry is spread extremely thin over way too many studios and productions and you got a recipe for disaster. Im honestly surprised that it gasnt collapsed on itself yet and that the nip government isnt addressing this shit at all if you consider how much of a cultural juggernaut anime is, and that china is now threathening to take its throne with impressive productions post 2020.

>>7823790
animation director and director are different things, director is the one you're thinking of. animation director has to correct everything so it works together basically. animation directors are almost always insanely competent in both drawing and animating. directors dont animate but they usually can draw and storyboard and arent beg even if they arent known for it, see hideaki annos ancient animations.

I think if I have any talent for art, it came at the cost of being able to do anything else. Beyond my art, I'm nothing.

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>Burnt out and hate my art
>Just want to relax and draw characters I like for fun
>Can't draw them accurately or in different poses
>If I want to draw them better I need to practice fundamentals
>but learning fundamentals is equivalent to torture and is insanely boring and I never get anything out of it
>only pick at it slowly and remain mediocre for as long as I live and never draw characters as nicely as I want to
Aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh how do the japanese do it. I wish my head would simultaneously combust already I'm so sick of this shit.

i took a fucking art break because i was DEPRESSED AS FUCK and now ii can't remember how to draw a fucking SKELETON. if this keeps up i'm going to BLOW MY FUCKING HEAD OFF.

>>7825028
put up a mirror so you can see the skeleton when you do so

I'm trapped in a loop of staying up all night too awake to sleep but too tired to draw and then falling asleep in the morning and waking up in the evening so I'm too depressed to draw.

I came up with an even better variation of my art name I was shocked it wasn’t taken except 1 Japanese guy who seemed to put a number at the end leaving it wide open for me. Now I don’t have to have be confused with another faggot. Thank you Japanese man.

>>7825174
neet?

>>7825174
Me too. I have all the time in the world to develop my talent and I squander it

>>7825219
I make money drawing, but I need the perfect conditions to draw.

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I woke up today and apparently lost all my skill. Literally my head drawings regressed to like 4 years ago. This year I finally felt like I could draw pretty good heads and today it's gone. I suppose I had a minor stroke in my sleep, or something like that.

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>>7825370
F

>>7825370
no biggie, just do some basic practice

It's really so embarassing when my social media posts flop. Unironically what part of myself should I discard to remove this feeling?

>>7825618
What is a flop to you?

>>7825619
0 likes.

Is gesture drawing a meme? I just don't get it.

>>7825658
No.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=somnWjrj1og

>>7825663
Ty

how the fuck do people just draw at the drop of a hat... its a 2 hour commitment MINIMUM for me, I have to psych myself up all day before I can draw.

>>7823482
I'm not sure, but it doesn't take literally forever, just a few seconds longer than most other programs so that friction makes it hard to start drawing.

>>7826094
Doodle a lot. Have your tablet or pen and paper ready to be used at any time. You want to train the muscle for sketching

>spend hours on a turd
>see a much better drawing done with 1/10th the lines

name a worse feeling

>>7826310
you’re not ready to hear the worse feelings

>>7826315
give me the suicide fuel, I'm ready

>>7821652
How to do 600k traffic? How to draw things rotated to be as correct as unrotated? How to use http://tululoo.com/ to make modern games? Or is there template that solve maybe the backbone of it? So I can just, read,learn, and recreate through it???

>>7826310
Goodnight(you are(insert age))

how did the internet turn into digital india so quickly

>>7826406
We are Charlie Kirk

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>>7826310
A skilled artist makes it look impossible when it's not
A master artist makes it look easy when it's not

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>>7826094
This is me except I spend a lot of time looking for references or thinking about what kind of drawing to sink time into whether it be a study or something for fun. It feels like I have to spend a lot of time in order to get something to look good even though I know for a fact I've gotten faster. I feel like I can't just "doodle".

>>7826439
kozeki... just draw

>>7826442
who?

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>>7826442
I just wanted to share my thoughts. Forget that this ever happened.

>have the entire day to draw
>do all my chores instead
>house looks clean for the first time

>busy day
>too worn-out to feel like drawing
>fall asleep early
>wake up and get the urge draw at 1am
>end up drawing till 5am
>day off
>plan to spend most of it drawing
>procrastinate the entire day instead
>try to start drawing till 11pm
>doesn't work
>fall asleep
>wake up at 1am
>urge to start drawing again
>draw until the morning
?????????

>>7826425
Kirk isn’t an injun name.

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>Try drawing something for clout for the first time to see if making a hit post is as easy as I think it is
>Only 200 likes on Plebbit
>Completely ignored on X
>Not even 20 favorites on DA

Fuck my life. So it's NOT that easy huh?

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Man I hate this fucking fleshbag I'm forced to live my life in
There's always something wrong, something inflamed, an injury, stomach problems, impingement, sleep...

I'm so fucking tired of suffering through a workday and clinics and doctors just to go home and sleep because I'm too tired. Only to go to work the next day.

I just wanna, that's all

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>>7826950
Instead of going for one of the ebin trendy current things (like Chainsaw Man, E33 or any of the trendy gacha games right now), try repeatedly targeting smaller, more recent fandoms, they're gonna retweet your post like neanderthals passing a torch around the fire. That's how you have fun "farming clout" until you have enough followers to target the REAL trends without getting buried.
>>7826914
>>7826891
>>7827094
kek stop being so real anons
It feels like my own brain in particular is working against me. That unless I trick it good, it's gonna keep working with the rest of my body to make me feel tired and like doing jackshit. Even though I like drawing, even though I think my art got really good recently, and whether I'm NEETing or not. It makes me feel so guilty and "lazy" even though it's probably very normal.
I wish I had an answer to that but I've only made marginal improvements over the years.

>>7827141
Hmmm So you're saying you still need a fanvase for that? Fuck. Well, then I might as well just draw whatever I feel like.

Sometimes I think about sharing my art to family and relatives and every time I have to shut the urge down as I know it'll be used against me in some way. I'm no longer NEETing and holding myself up well but the resistance sticked.

>>7827230
ahaha wait a minute, I think I was about to get scammed. Neeevermind. The jeets almost got me good.

how do you draw at max power for longer? I can draw for 5 hours a day but only the first hour is productive and the other 4 I'm at 50% efficiency just tired and miserable.

>>7827238
ramune...

>>7826950
If you can hit 200 updoots you can hit 2,000, it's just a matter of timing and the zeitgeist. But reddit won't get you many followers or a fanbase unless you get cozy with the mods like the big guys on /r/comics

>>7821652

i've been learning to pace myself, which has been improving my overall work output. i've been drawing exactly one room on my supeisushippu once per day. i don't get burnout as much and progress moves a lot faster than staying up all night and crashing out for 48 hours trying to catch up on sleep.

>>7827275
Take breaks. When I feel my energy slowing down, I will hop on the internet, have a drink, or even lay down and listen to some ambient music. Just a quick recharge, then jump back to your art.

Its good for your eyes to take breaks too....you can get eye strain and blurryness if you are staring at your art constantly. When you take a break, look at objects that are farther away for a good 30 seconds, it helps with you focus for your art.

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In the year of tumblr eve, 2013
I went to the Oracle at /ic/ and asked "Who is the greatest artist on /ic/?"
>(you) are, Anonymous
"Surely not! This cannot be so! I must browse /ic/, surely there is someone who is far superior than I! I shall post my work!"

At first, I proclaimed my superiority over all, and nervously watched my art get trashed. I was fine with it, because my blood, heart and soul was poured into my artwork. It was my "Artistic Ego" that needed to take the hits. Hits it did take. I was the worst artist because I stopped drawing. One post by one post, one bad drawing at a time, I had actually surpassed the ones I once idolized in at least one way or another. I wanted to be a digital concept artist so badly I hadn't realized I hated digital art.

I did the monthly memes and whored myself for cash, until one day, I looked around /ic/ and saw all those I had once idolized were long gone but not replaced to me. The crabs sadness compounded. They had forgotten to learn to take the lesson of /ic/ with themselves while off the internet as well, for now the internet was everywhere. It had invaded their minds. I watched them believe the same thing I once did, throwing themselves for the approval, of someone, anyone.

I looked at my old art, at what I had poured my entire internet self into vying for the place where I had abandoned all hope of making it. Ye who enter /ic/ leave hating /ic/, until you realize everywhere else is just a worse version of /ic/.
Today, I realized the truth: I wasn't the "great rendering machine of digital still lives" I wanted to be, but I had gotten to a place where I even began to think the Oracle was right, I just had to burn through myself until I could finally reach the place where I can say

I made it.

>make time to draw
>body decides its time to sleep