Do you think forcing yourself to draw when you don't feel like it is counter-productive? I'm honestly starting to think it is. Even though I'm here with tablet in hand and Krita open, I just keep on not drawing at all.
>>7830648>Do you think forcing yourself to draw when you don't feel like it is counter-productive?no. at best, that's an ignorant view, and at worst it's pure cope. even if the quality of your study in such a case is less than that of when you are up for it, you still have the opportunity to learn and get better; you're ultimately prolonging your progress. and as you repeatedly and deliberately get through those sessions, you will come to deal with them more easily. if you only want to draw when you feel like it, by all means, but you only have yourself to blame for your delayed progress.
>>7830652I've been forcing myself to draw since forever. It doesn't get any easier. Even though I know it will only take me like 10 minutes to finish what I'm doing, I keep on delaying it.
I always stop when I'm bored or frustrated, and sometimes take whole days off. The upside is that I know I'll get back into it easily once the motivation returns (day or two at most). If you feel like it's constantly work to even doodle, something deeper is going on that you need to face.
>>7830655>It doesn't get any easierit necessarily does, that's basic biology. but easier =/= mean easy, and there can still be (and likely are) other ways you are hindering yourself.
>>7830648do a study
It's not about forcing, it's about learning to remove yourself and all the hangups and neurosis society forces upon us from the decision making process. Why are you going to draw? Because you're an artist and that's what you do.
>>7830652you can study forever, some of us are trying to make finished works that are good. Amazing, even.You can't just force yourself to draw something amazing when you don't want to. It doesn't get easier because when you have a lot of knowledge, you use it to draw something that should be THE BEST THING YOUVE EVER DRAWN, so you're always putting in 100% effort no matter how good you are.OP, if you dont want to draw, try to build up the desire by sketching or drawing other things until that spark appears. My post will anger third world artists that think they're anime characters and they can just force themselves to do anything no matter how painful as long as have a strong mind, but art is about being creative and inspired. If you're not feeling any of those things, you won't draw anything creative or inspiring.
>>7830670>you can study forever, some of us are trying to make finished works that are good. Amazing, even.I should've been more clear in my OP, but the idea applies to art generally, not just studies.>You can't just force yourself to draw something amazing when you don't want to.this is already moving the goalpost, but still wrong - certainly if by "amazing" you simply mean "the best thing you've ever drawn". in the most literal sense sure, you can't just snap your finger and necessarily want to do something you previously didn't. but OP is expressing ambivalence: there's clearly some desire or consideration in spite of a strong aversion. and it's a simple matter of fact that you can work through such aversion and apply all the knowledge you possess into your work.>when you have a lot of knowledge, you use it to draw something that should be THE BEST THING YOUVE EVER DRAWN, so you're always putting in 100% effort no matter how good you are.this is simply false. plenty of quite knowledgeable artists don't always put in max effort/max knowledge - even for a "serious" work.
>>7830648It can be, but you need to make sure that's just a temporary feeling, like you're tired from a busy day or something, and that you're not giving in to procrastination or just avoiding your studies.If it's the later, then no, you need to push through and train yourself to draw through those feelings; if it's the former, then yeah you might as well not force it, because either it won't be productive, or it'll be counter productive - you'll gain little despite the effort and stress.
Im depressed so if I dont force myself to do anything then I'd never leave my bed
>>7830648You only have to force yourself until it becomes a habit. Also >>7830669
>>7831289I'm not sure if forcing yourself will truly turn it into an habit. I've been forcing myself since I started and while it does help once you start doodling, sometimes it just doesn't flow.
>>7831289habits dont work for intelligent people. I have to have a good reason to do anything so the moment it stops making sense, I stop doing it. Most people can do things withoutout questioning it but not me, I need to be convinced to shower.
>>7830648it is when you try being productive. doing a copy/study or other practice is never lost
Probably should if you want to make money but I'm ngmi so what do I know
>>7830670>You can't just force yourself to draw something amazing when you don't want to.That's kind of the name of the game specifically for drawing something amazing. Talk to any professional artist and they'll tell there's times where they think they're making the most amazing thing and then they come back to it after a day or week and realize that it's pretty shit and other times where they went through the motions and was pleasantly surprised. That's in terms of amazement- what you want ultimately is consistency and you're not gonna get it if you only draw when you feel like it. You won't learn what works for you or how to navigate challenging situations if you're always waiting until you're ready. >try to build up the desire by sketching or drawing other things until that spark appearsthat's a good way to have momentum, but it's the same with saying if you don't feel like working out put on your gym clothes and start stretching... without having a gym routine, you need some form of curriculum to keep you from staring at a blank page and wasting your time. There are seemingly near infinite possibilities and artstyles so if you don't focus you won't build the momentum to get where you want to go.
>>7830648If you wait until you "feel like it" to do anything then you're not going to get anywhere in life. Getting good at anything means showing up even when you don't feel like it, some people have less resistance to this than others but it comes for everyone inevitably and being able to deal with it when you get tripped up is an invaluable skill in all aspects of life
>>7830648>Even though I'm here with tablet in hand and Krita open, I just keep on not drawing at all.So what, are you really just staring at an empty file with pencil in hand and absolutely nothing in mind you want to draw? Or is it that your brain is already begging to reach for your phone to doomscroll? Or make shitty threads on 4chan?There's no such thing as "not doing anything", you're always performing an action. A majority of your actions a day come from force of habit.You should decide what it is you really want to do with your life. The feeling of "forcing" something into your life is literally that, breaking habits your brain built because it only knows to do things that's kept it alive before. Yes, the feeling sucks. Nothing you can do about it. You know what the endgoal looks like, its the artists you look up to. If you want it that bad, force the habit. If not, go do something else with your life.
I'm always afraid of not forcing myself to draw. But now I think is best to avoid drawing if you're not in the mood for it. Drawing while uninspired could only result in uninspired, half-assed art. If the piece your working on doesn't excite you, you might as well drop it and start a new one. Literally just listen to your instincts.
