Since a lot of you seem to shit on different courses, learning methods and books. How do you recommend actually learning art? What do you believe is the best way to actually become a "good" artist?
I just do a drawing practice exercise over and over again
By drawing. A lot.
truth is the art courses are valuable. Like 90% of them are valuable. Truth is /ic/ doesn't like the idea of having to actually sit down and practice/read stuff. It's why somehow they're looking for sources caue they suck at art, but somehow understand enough to completely disregard and dismiss entire courses/careers of artists that have been in the game longer than they have.
>>7836248I was going to post a wall of text on my thoughts about this but you know what? Rather than letting SEO point out the frauds and disrupt the natural order of the universe or some random taking my post to post on reddit again to wake up the sheeple things should just be the way they need to be.
>>7836253What
>>7836254it’s nothing.
>>7836225you draw alot. Then use the drawing manuals to correct your drawings.
>>7836256???????? just explain if you disagree with that anon or not.
>>7836225It's important to narrow your goals at first. Define what you actually want to do. Do you want to draw anime/cartoons? Do you want to paint portraits? Are you inspired by concept art? Or are you solving practical problems, like industrial design? Despite the fundamentals being largely the same, you do have different priorities. Like an RPG, you have to allot skill points into abilities differently depending on what type of character you want to be.The most pragmatic tips and methods are often the most divisive, because they apply to specific industries with specific demands. It's like when Luther Vandross declared that you should never "pet" lines on a Proko episode, only to retract later for animators.Don't fall into the trap of debating learning material on /ic/. Be aware of the context, take what works and advances you toward your goals, and move on.
>>7836263My main goal is to be able to turn the stuff in my head into drawings on paper. I want to be able to take all that foggy stuff in my head, and bring in front of my eyes clearly.So to reach about this level of art, I mostly like drawing different kinds of creatures, but humans as well. Secondly would be a landscape to go along with that.
Just learn to draw from observation
I need a book I can study that will make me better without hving to draw so much. Something that can unlock my skill from inside you know? I hate drawing and I would like to minimize how much I have to do it.
>>7836225It depends on the individual, no method of learning or method of drawing is one size fits all.For me, learning from books is perfect, and learning to construct the figure from basic shapes is what works for me, but as others one this board often let us know, that method is not for everyone.So whatever method, whether for learning or for drawing, catches your attention, give it a go and see if it works for you.
>>7836248It really is this. You have to understand that going through a course doesn't take that long, these aren't college classes, they're more like individual book guides. Even if the course isn't immediately helpful you can just do another afterwards, and another, and another, and that variety of ideas is ultimately what makes you flexible enough to be able to execute a cohesive vision, let alone have one in the first place.If you can't make it through a single course, or are wrought with indecision on which to do, that's really no one's fault but your own. Stop being weak willed and just do literally anything but sit there and cope. Stop planning, planning is useless here. You cannot plan if you don't even know what paths are available to take yet.
I'm not one to shit on courses, because they actually do work but not to the extent you'd want it to (without repeating them over and over) there are common pitfalls in courses though one of the biggest being people who are watching the artist try to explain a concept in a short period of time so they use shorthand and the students tend to adopt whatever shorthand they use I call it the krenz effect due to him trying to explain how he does his perspective tricks using inaccurate and wobbly lines and the idiot weebs copied him verbatim leading to an Accuracy course being made.Ultimately learning is about what you can stomach at what time, there are times you can get yourself to push through certain ones, but without deadlines/accountability or peer pressure you're not going to do your best work and that's why there are so many cynical little crabbies
>>7836248>>7836921>they're more like individual book guides.I haven't used many drawing courses myself yet but I'm planning to go through some ones I already have on hand. I think the issue is that /ic/ is full of begs but 99% of good art guides are for improving a very specific domain (backgrounds, composition, anatomy, production flow, etc) so they're only meant for people at an intermediate or better drawing level while begs want a book of generally useful advice that applies to everyone, but that's not really a book that exists so the stuff that gets recommended is either dogshit and/or not actually useful for the average beginner
>>7836964The problem isn't that the courses are too advanced, it's that people go in expecting to come out with everything making sense. But that just doesn't happen. The process is just way too interdependent for that to ever happen. Everything depends on knowledge in some other area. That's why FWAP starts out telling you to just bullshit everything and draw the best approximation you can. Things aren't going to really click whatsoever until you get very far in, and you just have to deal with that being the case. You do several classes/books/whatever so you stop relying on what the teachers say and learn to be able to say what needs to be done with your own words, and then is when you can actually understand what you're doing.
>>7836964People are just retarded and can't conceptualize how a course that has them drawing and shading and apple now will help them draw anime later so the think it's irrelevant. They jump right into figure drawing and think, "oh wow this really not made for beginners!" No shit, a true beginner figure drawing would start with drawing fucking apples and bananas
>>7836225in roughly equal parts:copy your favourite artistscopy from lifedraw from imagination thats it
