If you are an /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.DO NOT REPLY to crabs, nodraws, talent debates, howies and instead focus on posted works!>STICKY:Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/viewNew collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Qw/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view>WHERE to get study materialsannas-archive.org>>>/ic/artbook>>>/ic/video>Want to practice figures?quickposes.comsketchdaily.netcharacterdesigns.comlovelifedrawing.composemy.artline-of-action.com>PYW and give your feedbackWhat can be improved?Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.Try to reply to someone as you post your own work.>Cool teachersGlenn VilppuMichael HamptonSteve HustonBrent EvistonMarco BucciAndrew LoomisGeorge BridgmanHikaru Hayashi>Cool booksKeys To DrawingDrawing With the Right Side of the BrainHow To Draw Comics the Marvel WayThe Art and Science of DrawingFramed PerspectiveFigure Drawing For All It's WorthThe Complete Guide to Drawing From LifeLast: >>7838201
Hey all, here's another study that I just finished. Turns out, drawing the general outline and then working on the specifics was a good idea.We should start telling people this!
G pen is so fucking ugly
It's really very difficult, I don't know without irony how you can draw these heads so easily, academicism seems easy
Four days late with this one
thread challenge
>>7841622You were hopeless from the moment you decide to study/trace over AI slop. Grim
>>7841614Good details. Make sure to keep the face proportional, it's the most important part of any character. Both eyes being the same size will go a long way.
>>7841631I won't double-check every frame to see if it's in the anime
>>7841614Isn't she evil? I never watched it however.
>>7841614Forgot to post source: https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/56692785>>7841636Thanks for the advice; I'll keep working at it.
>>7841639She is the embodiment of Magical Girl Lucifer but Lucifer in the sense of a Supernatural Slash Fic Lucifer
>>7841639Only one way to find out, anon.
>>7841637You really don't see the AI glitches? I can see them even in that severely downscaled picture. Looks like it was over for you before you even began.
>>7841636Hey anon, is it better to focus first on drawing heads only or drawing full bodies?
>>7841643Her hair was hanging strangely under her dress. I was looking at her head and not her body, and the slops are no longer distinguishable
>>7841648>and the slops are no longer distinguishableIf that's what you think then go generate slop and fuck off from this board.
AAAAAAAAAA
>>7841652you're fine
>>7841629Cute style! Your lines have lots of stray eraser bits in them. Don't be afraid to erase and redraw a line to make it look steadier.
>>7841655No I am not. I spent the last 3 days sick and couldnt draw my christmas piece and now I have to go back to work and I cant finish my christmas piece which is already mediocre as fuck because I cant make the image in my mind real....AREEEEEEEEE
>>7841644Both are important and it depends on what you want to draw. But I would practice heads first and then progress outwards from there. People's eyes flick to a face first, and that's the place where small mistakes make the largest difference.
>>7841660get back on the horse, make an effort, you'll be alright
The patron saint of begs has left us todayPress F to pay respects
>>7841660You will not be alright. Failure is inevitable. You've missed your window to complete your Christmas piece and it's over. No one was going to like it anyway.
I will continue copying that book tomorrow but I just want to say that from all the stuff I bought to play around this year, this clipboard was the most significant one. It makes such a difference to have a solid surface I can move around and adjust it to my posture.I fear having to buy an IPad or something to have this same comfort in future.
is this actually an effective way to learn to draw? copying and redrawing stuff in different angles? idk if it's clicking. the nose on the dog is already enough to confuse me, where to place the ears, the perspective of the parts, how it all connects and wraps around etc bonus blender egg since I don't have an egg to reference
>>7841664AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>7841665looks like we're on the same path. how are you finding it?
>>7841668Basically, what i said at >>7840621I still suck terribly to draw even these simplified hands though.>>7841666I think you're drawing the same face at different tilts and not really different angles (as from frontal perspective or from profile). I believe you should try doing it too if you're going to draw the same guy multiple times.
studied russian bröthervery fun>>7841614keep it up
>>7841609thanks for this OP collage!Alas, didn't make it in
>>7841663FI too, am impatient. I wonder if I look to others as she does to the world.
>>7841628gorgeous thread challenge.... too bad i am proportions-illiterate wtf
Thread challenge
>>7841658Thanks for the help, anon. I really appreciate.
>>7841667/a/ is laughing at you again...
>>7841683haha cute..
>>7841705This is not what you should've been studying.
>>7841707What do you mean?
AWOOOOOOOOOO
>>7841708I've seen your work for a while and you've been stagnating pretty hard. Anatomical studies are not what you need right now. You should continue studying figures but focus less on construction and try not to stylize the shapes too much, I think that has really been holding you back. You can be both more accurate and gestural with your figures.
I'm kinda confused, whenever I saw videos where people draw heads, the horizontal line going through the circle is basically exactly in the middle.I'm checking out hamptons head construction course and his lines are always slightly higher than middle, as seen in pic related.Does anyone know why? Is it just a personal style / construction thing? Or am I being a dumbo
No clue how to add features, im struggling here
>>7841720It's arbitrary, but this one refers to the eyebrows.
>>7841667Do women really draw naked? That's so hot.
Those disgusting wererats
>>7841724women don't draw
>>7841718Thanks I appreciate the feedback, I've been doing gestures but had the habit of mixing anatomy studies because figure drawing kind of feels mindless.I'll focus on figures but not sure if I'm practicing them correctly.I know you mentioned less construction but is drawing it like this still viable?
>>7841722I see, thanks anon.
>>7841721These are great SHUT UP
>>7841732Not really. You should draw what you see and not what you think you see. Those construction shorthands you are using are not a replacement for what the actual body parts are. Of course you can still use guidelines, but you should try to capture the original shapes from the reference. And do not try to stylize too early because you're starting falling into some kind of symbol drawing.
study
>>7841737I gotcha. Can you provide an example of how I should draw it? Like something done in a way that I should focus on?
>>7841738Ass needs more squish. Very sexo tho.Got the original?
>>7841721What model did you reference?
>>7841741From memory.
>>7841737pyw
>>7841739Like this. Not super far from what you were doing, but with a greater focus on capturing the figure accurately. Not my art because this is a better example to learn from.
>>7841740https://files.catbox.moe/2byhvc.jpeg
>>7841748HOLY I could cum to this.
>>7841738I thought this was ai slop so I didn't click on this, but it turns out it was a study of ai slop lmao. You can't remove the slop out of it so easily.
>>7841751Yikes.
>>7841626The white space on the left was annoying me
>>7841748vague advice imo. don't suggest things until you have tried them personally. and the advice doesn't make sense and is not useful
>>7841751AI straight shota retard GOD
>>7841760You can ignore me and keep stagnating, I guess. I have no obligation to mentor you.
>>7841760Tracebro...
>>7841763That's obviously not the same anon, retard, considering he literally replied to you earlier.
>>7841762how can you tell its a shota just from the head, it never occured to me that its shota
>>7841763most of your advice sounds like a beginner's idea of how to improve without actually using the advice themselves. it's a common problem.
>>7841751>AIslopreally nigga
>>7841771What's your idea then?
There is something deeply wrong with me because I have no spatial awaraness, no observation skills and I have only gotten worse this year. My permabegness is terminal.
pyramid head >>7841769ppl itt will call anything shota
>>7841683>>7841700finished it
>>7841778Do you still have fun
>>7840682Dollfag, How much measuring do you need to do your studies?>Ref right at the side to sight size>Constantly overlaying to check differences>Just rawdogging it staring at it occassionaly from another windowI am struggling a lot with mine...>>7841783No. I am constantly compared to way more talented anons and it hurts me.I found out one artist I admired is a 34yo manchild living off porn comms in his parent's basement methed out of his mind to be stuck to his screen 24/7 and it is making me reconsider life.He is min-maxing life and throwing his health away to pursue his career. Can you call anything other than that trying?
>>7841781should be a guy
Hello, I would really appreciate some critique/advice. I gave up on this drawing but its almost done anyway, you can tell the parts that are unfinishedI posted here sometime in december last year, tried figure for a week then gave up bc it was extremely unfunPosted again september this year and since then I started drawing/painting with more consistency but idk if i've really improved or not (hopefully this made sense)
>>7841788Kill yourself, Paige.
>>7841798who?
Figures
>>7841803How long each? I think is good but also kinda funny, some of the faces are very wikihow-esk to me. I love the guy trowing the ball, is honestly good enough to be a meme in my opinion.
fuck it that'll do for today. having a reference open in blender helped with the eggsidk if this is even gonna help me learn to draw. I just really want it to click to the point where I can draw simple stuff from imagination, the aha moment where it feels like I can draw and place things in imaginary 3D space
>>7841774great
>>7841805Like 10 mins and yeah I need to practice faces
>>7841814>this good in 10 minsSomebody kill me
>>7841781i like this
shogun is supposed to hold a sword>>7841726>wereratsanon help>>7841758thanks :3>>7841803ooo nice figgies
>>7841827why does the guy on the right have tits
>>7841806>I just really want it to click to the point where I can draw simple stuff from imagination,If what you are doing doesn't start to make sense, try just doodling random overlapping forms (similar to the fourth step at the top of the page) for a while. For me at least, seeing the results after I carelessly doodled them made me think "oh, that looks like it could be x!" and it started getting easier to do it intentionally.Not sure if it will work for you, but it won't hurt to do it as a warmup.
>>7841829because i like to imagine sword saint isshin with tits(he keeps his original face
>>7841809Thanks, mate.
wipI think the "bra" is funky and looks flat
starting out is brutal...copying from comics is funbut this shit looks middle schooler tier man...
>>7841847Are you interested in drawing gay shota guro rape by any chance?
>>7841851>>7841851sorry no thanks
>>7841755didnt think it was slop study at first until he said it, i thought it was just a bad drawing imo
Does this look better?
>>7841851why are you so obsessed with GSGR?
I'm trying to get used to drawing on my new tabletMy circles are so misshapen I feel like I can't use them to draw faces. So I've just been drawing extremely simple stuff in krita
>>7841886this is why we need spoilers on /ic/. how the fuck am I gonna sleep now?
>>7841861Profile pic worthy.
>>7841665
what ARE the fundamentals?
>>7841683
>>7841896If we are talking purely drawing, it's basically these in no particular order:>Observational skill>Line control>Shape and geometry>PerspectiveThen comes construction, anatomy, and more recognizable objects such as buildings, vehicles, things, etc. These should be easy to draw, once you've got a better hold of the former from the list.
>>7841896Talent.
>I'm getting filtered by cubesI'm ngmi
THE CUM
>>7841900need to do 10 schizoscribbles to calm down after trying to color this fuckng shit
>>7841912Show
>>7841916show what
>>7841918>schizoscribbles>>7841917
>>7841921i havent drawn them yet
>>7841922I think it came out nicely. For some reason the palette reminds me of early capeshit.
the finale comes out this wednesday and its almost certain shes dying so i drew her in heaven reunitied w her best friend to cope.
i tried to do scaled study
>>7841924>I think it came out nicely. For some reason the palette reminds me of [...]shit.interesting
First time drawing furry and I feel like I've opened pandoras box
>>7841935Early american comics. I refer to them as capeshit endearingly.
>>7841683quicky
>>7841946I love you raxav
>>7841947I.. I love you too!
>>7841882the problem is these bodies don't look like bodies, they dont look organic, and you have big problems in drawning the pelvic area and legs.
jugs
>>7841882I think they are great. Maybe try build more elements on top of your figures? You seem to have your figure drawings in a good spot. I really enjoy portraits, but at some point, I'll have to move on to other subjects.>>7841806You seem to obsess over a singular bear. Have you tried working purely with simplified forms?>Our system thinks your post is spam.Bro, I wish. What's up with this? It only happens on my pc.
>try to think of cute cartoon robot girls for reference>mind goes blankthere had to be some >>7841975what is this a reference too?
Got absolutely filtered by this one but I am still having fun with copying Morpho's. I am starting to suspect that copying Bridgman twice is actually an effective way to improve seeing how much progress I've made in my observation skill in only a few days. Thanks for all your recommendations and advice so far Purpleanon
>>7841980>there had to be someI tried to think of any but the only one I can remember is EDI from Mass Effect. Not a cartoon, though.In such cases use the booru related tag search. You might have to do some digging to find characters that actually look like robots, though.https://danbooru.donmai.us/related_tag?commit=Search&search%5Bcategory%5D=Character&search%5Bquery%5D=robot_girl+
Quick sketch :)
>>7841980magical drop 3 on the neogeo. it's a good game.
WIP portrait
>>7841990nvm, wrong picmeant this one
>>7841993recent figure sketches
>>7841994
Where do you find out if your good enough to draw I’ve read fun with a pencil but I don’t think I’m ready yet is there a test or form to complete
>>7841997you're supposed to draw-along in Fun with a Pencil. Draw those blooks, there's tons of em.
>>7841758>>7841626Gave it a background
>>7841998I was scared too what if I sucked at it
>>7842000just draw the blooks, bitch nigga
>>7842001STFU JEW
>Still not in the collage. Well fuck you, too, faggot! I’m glad I didn’t post in the last four threads and I’ll continue not posting as long as you elitist shit eaters gate keep this retarded general!
>>7841981I should really start copying morpho again
>>7842010You should. It's pretty damn fun all things considered and you can learn some anatomy too I suppose
>>7841683Here's mine. Not my best, but I like how the hands turned out.>>7841980It worked. The robot is cute.>>7841981Filtered? I think you did pretty great. I did try out Morpho's stuff, and I've even bought two of his books, but I haven't read them in detail. How are you finding the material?>>7841995Great studies, anon. Keep at it.
>>7842020you barely even drew the hands, where are her fingers? i like the shoes most, they look nice
>>7842020>How are you finding the material?Everything except the faces is amazing in my opinion. I think I am slowly beginning to grasp the ever-mysterious "feel the form" thing by using the book. I'm not really reading anything though and instead just trying my best to copy his stuff and understand the logic behind it. Definitely recommend the book to anyone interested in anatomy though keep in mind I'm a pre-beg and this is more or less my first time studying an anatomy book so take my advice with a grain of salt
>>7842026you accuarcy is insanely good for a so called pre-beg
>>7841946>such a good anime headFuck, I'm so tired of it all
>>7842023A stylistic choice, though I can see what you mean. At a second glance, her left hand's fingers seems a tad undefined. I'll see if I can refine it a bit more next time, and I'll leave it as such as a reminder. Surprisingly, I rushed the shoes, but thanks for the compliment.>>7842026The faces are off, but everything else seems solid enough, yeah. I do find it better for construction rather than as a anatomical reference, but I see what you mean. It's definitely a series I'll keep an eye on. And don't talk badly about your skills, it's very accurate in comparison to his drawings.
>>7842020This is really good. The only thing is that without the reference or knowledge of the character I wouldn't be able to tell if she's wearing gloves or just has rings on her arms.But I don't know how you could do it without introducing new values. Maybe add wrinkles similar to the boots?
>>7842030It's a result of>Draw a chunk of the full image>Compare it visually and try to spot mistakes>Correct them if you spotted them>Overlay the images and see if you were right>If wrong move the drawing to the side and go back to step 1Every drawing takes me around an hour as a result but I don't mind since I'm specifically trying to train my accuracy and observation. Again I'm only 6 days into this so take this with a grain of salt but I've noticed obvious improvements in my ability to accurately copy angles from the first try as a result. Curved lines are still a pain but there's still progress on that front too
>>7842037Thank you, anon. I should definitely have added a bit more details on her lower arms and hands, as they seem flat. Some slight wrinkles and overlapping lines might have worked? I'll see how I can do it better for the next drawing. That's what studies are for, I figure.
>>7842041>I should definitely have added a bit more details on her lower arms and hands, as they seem flat.I meant more the texture. In the ref they are smooth so I get why you did it that way, but with only two values and no lighting there's no way to differentiate her skin from the white gloves. So I thought since the material is the same you could "make it up" with the folds.But now that you mention it being flat, the legs don't have the little hatch marks you did on her arms. What are those, by the way? Where did you learn to to that? They look good but I don't understand.I really like this limited style of drawing but I find it really difficult to fill in the details on bodies.
>>7842049The small marks serve multiple purposes. In my regular sketches, I usually use them as markers for light and texture, which will help me in the long run for when I start painting. It's about identifying shapes and depth. For this drawing I used them to define shape, but I must admit, I was lost when it came to defining smooth clothing. I usually let wrinkles, however much defined, show form. If I were to draw it again, I'd probably try to add some on the underside of the thighs and such, as it could hopefully be interpreted as part of shadows. I like the shapes, and I know the anatomical placements, but it's not a really clear drawing.
>>7841609>picked the drawing where I fucked up the footasshole
>>7842052If it's shorthand then it makes sense. Thank you for the explanation.
>>7842054:P
>>7839584fixed him
>>7842058He's so kawaii
>>7841847You'd probably like How To Draw Comics The Marvel Wayhttps://archive.org/details/HowToDrawComicsTheMarvelWay
i think it's pretty cool how i didn't make any progress this year
Not feeling great lately!
>>7841980mlaatrAstro boy
>>7841985luv u
>This is really good. tell me you are a discord troonie without telling me you are a fucking retard
what's up guys
>>7842043Reminds me of Mona Lanius
>>7842043>>7842085caca>>7841912caca>>7841900caca
More Morpho's
>>7841683>>7841580if you draw the thread challenge you will be in the next opget to it
>>7841993there are girls here?
>>7842099we got a handful
>>7842066thank you.i tried it but dropped it cuz it wasnt teaching as much in detail as i wanted.after finishing the loomis drawing the head and hands book, im now trying to copy bridgmans conplete guide to drawing from life.its hard to try and apply what i see in my own drawings or in other copies but i really like his style.and for fun as a break i copy from comics sometimes too.
>>7841889Why?
I did hatching first but this grey ruined it haha
>>7842100fuck this gay earth
>>7842058Great drawing, anon. I really like it.>>7842081Kek, sure.>>7842085This is really cool.>>7842087Fantastic linework. It reminds me of the concept art for MGS.>>7842094Cute! I like it.
>>7842115what method/artist is your head construction based on?
>>7842115thanks teachernondont listen to the crab
>>7842104Don't worry, it was a misclick.I was aiming for the post underneath yours. Anon had the correct trips. I like your drawings.>>7842109Don't worry, the grey doesn't matter when the drawing is this good.>>7842100One can only dream, I guess.
>>7842117I started with Hampton, which is my main inspiration if you've seen his work, and there's also a little Bridgman and some slight amount of Rielly. I tried Loomis in the beginning, but I figured it was a meme. I didn't work for me, but I've seen others make great use of it.>>7842118I mostly find it funny, don't worry. Anyone working as a teacher can tell you that you'll encounter a lot worse than meanies on the internet.
i wish i knew how to render :(
>>7842122>hamptonmaybe i should try and go through his book again. i got up to landmarks chapter but still felt like i didn't really understand the whole gesture portion of the book yet
>>7842123Add more light to face and left arm should also catch some. Btw can you draw Roswaal from Re Zero?
>>7842125>light to facefair, the ref was wearing a cap so i assume this fucked up the lighting on mine>left armah ye i fucked up a little there, shadows are too dark and there should be some light on the hand>Roswaalask me again in two weeks i've got like 3 drawings on the backlog right now. but he looks nice so i would like to draw him eventually.
>>7842124I recommend it. I'm still not finished with it, but I also remember that the beginning of the landmark chapters was like pulling my own teeth out. I made it through though I had to redraw a lot of times before I finally succeeded.>>7842123I like it. Besides the arm, maybe make the shadows warmer? The light cast off (area between light and shadow) hints at a warmer tone.
challengeI think I'm just doomed to kms sure to being visually and perhaps cognitively impared
also tried the other thread challenge
>>7842138Dude, how old are you? Unless you're over 75, 1 to 2 hours a day of pure studies is enough to become really great at drawing in roughly 5 years. Don't beat yourself up about it, I've seen worse. Much worse. Just keep at it, don't spend more than 30 minutes on drawings, 10 minutes on smaller studies, and never become attached to any drawing you're making during your studies. You'll see improvement in no time.
>>7842138erase the evil in your soul and get rid of the racism
>>7842141I've been going for almost a year though and while there has been improvement, it feels lackingI bought a couple of drawing books to see if they may hold any helpful insightsI'm also 32 which means I'm legally in old age and so learning is tougher >>7842142idgi I just drew what I saw
>>7842143Same guy as here >>7842141 . This was me in december 2024, and I'm at >>7842115 now. I do draw as much as I can, roughly 4-6 hours scattered through the day, but it is possible. I'm halfway to 30, and I'm not worried. We can make it.>>7842139And this is good, too.
>>7842145Forgot pic.
>>7842145ty anon, you're doing great. we can make it together, it's just easy to get depressed sometimes>>7842144far be it from me to be critical of others but idk something about this feels off compared to your normal stuff
>>7842149ik it was quick and low efforti redrew mangasis' post from last thread
>>7842077O-oh, t-thanks
>>7842152oh based now I can feel good about myself bc I could tell that it was different which means my eyes are getting better at seeing
>>7841792ok maybe i should have included another example but this is smthing i made september. i just want to know if there have been improvements and what should i do better, since i always feel like im fucking something up and have mixed feelings abt my drawings
>>7842145>Yeah dude just look how I made it in a year bruh>Nothing but hard work and no talent bruh>Everyone can make it bruh even without talent like me bruh>Did I tell you I have been drawing for barely a year? Yeah with no talent btw.You only come here to brag.
