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How do i make this more ero?
>>7842103Start over with a completely different pose than standing straight up
>>7842180Standing up is just laying down but flipped 90 degrees.
>>7842103Better camera angle and pose. The pic looks like the result of "make her look as awkward as possible, like a deer caught in headlights".
>>7842180>>7842255I see i'll try to switch up poses
>>7842070bro im on the thread cover that is so epic
This is just a work in progress, so I wanted to inquire on any major fixes I should make on this.
wippp
Oh shit, new captcha?
>>7842070Shouldn't it be /sast/?
I wanna make an erotic comic. Never done NSFW before so I can't really draw sexual poses from my memory. I know it's ironic but I really don't wanna search up straight-up porn as a reference. Where can I get good anatomical poses for a lewd comic and what do NSFW comic artists usually use?
>>7844287>I really don't wanna search up straight-up porn as a referencengmi
>>7844287you sound like you don't have any particular taste in porn, so why do you want to draw them? I mean, you don't have to if you are not interested in them.
how did you guys start getting approached for commissions?
>>7844434By opening comms and stating it in my profile. When people see you are available for comms, their brain connects your art with their comm ideas
>>7844287use stills from dance gymnastics or acrobatis, people bend around a lot and you have a lot of poses with spread legs and shit
>>7842103you'll have to redraw in a new pose like other anons said>>7842552the dead line weight is really killing this for me>>7842562needs line weight variation as well>>7842996make sure to reference hands and drapery for this since i suspect that could be a weak point but i can see this coming out pretty cute actually>>7843038proportions are way off, they're like 10 heads tall, your forms are flat and simplistic. just keep it up>>7843471hopefully this is intended as the rough sketch, distended belly in the final panel is an unappealing shape. breasts at the wrong angle as well>>7844375very nice, only nitpicks are that the eyes are flat and uneven, shadows around butthole are giving it a oddly protruding form, feet look like they're missing the pinky toes, and theshadow line on the breast on the left that extends up the center line of the chest is harsh and could be removed
>>7844375Love how realistic the body looksHere's what I'm working on. Gonna be a fully rendered illustration so its gonna be fun
>>7844375For a while I've been wanting to make a spicy comic story and I wanna try new things with it like NSFW drawings for an example. But I don't know how they're able to draw all those different sexual positions and angles in those kinds of comics.
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>>7847612>But I don't know how they're able to draw all those different sexual positions and angles in those kinds of comics.It's basically the same skill you need to do good action scenes. It's fucking hard. Most hentai/porn artists skimp on that stuff or cheat in any way they can to dodge the need of actually drawing multiple characters in a complex intertwined position.
I don't think I ever git gud.Only drawing porn/ecchi to get validation, its over for me isn't it?
>>7848092It's over lol
>>7846836>hopefully this is intended as the rough sketchKinda. Just kinda doodled something to get back into it after not drawing since christmas, so I didn't really care about making it perfect. You're definitely right on the breast part, I kinda disagree on the shape, cause I really like it, but I may just have shit taste. Thanks for the feedback anon
>>7842070Moving away from twinks and onto big booba mommies
>>7848092Fuck 'em. It's good enough to goon to. Draw the shit you want to see and don't be a puritan pussy. I'd be proud to reach your level.
face study, haven't painted in a while (oops)
>>7848169hag shit please go back
What's the secret to drawing faster?I'm never gonna make it if I take forever between each drawing...
>>7848916Are you diagnosed with autism?Serious question, not trying to be mean.
Started as a little doodle I was playing around with, but it snowballed into something much larger.I know the lighting on the musket is wrong when compared to the rest of her, but if anyone has any advice or critique on how to fix that or anything else, please share!
>>7848994I wouldn't be wasting my time drawing if I wasn't mentally ill, why do you ask?
>>7848994I diagnose him with talent
>>7848994
>>7845541>>7848434i really like how the drone looks.
>>7848092>validationfrom whom exactly? And what is stopping you from exploring? You gotta try to motivate yourself, anon; don't always look for validation for others. Make something for yourself first, others liking it is a bonus.But it does concern what your own end goal is; hopefully progression.
>>7846836I think that's fair enough, but I probably won't add any more hours on that piece, but I'll keep it in mind. >>7847156thanks, coming from you is high praise. I had been trying to get the folds in the torso bends because it really gives the volume presence. on the piece, I know you constructed it, but I felt the legs could use some adjustment, for aesthetic reasons, maybe making the thigh from viewer's left longer. >>7847612You don't have to draw a lot of sex positions, unless its actually porn focused pieces, but nsfw comic can be just story and a bit of nudity and vanilla hugging here and there. >>7848434Man, ear fucking is crazy.
>>7848434Do you honestly think kneecaps look like that
>>7849598The face is busted, use a 3d model or smth. The rest has mistakes too but they dont matter as much, it has a nice charm to it, but the face even feels like it doesnt fit the rest of the style. Its also busted, face and whole head actually, just change it please, dont continue, do something about that head. Do it differently, 5 different variants please.
>>7850128That's not how the vastus medialis looks
>>7850521yeah, i defined it a little more but im mostly bullshitting because I havent drawn seriously in a long time
I’m getting my head around in-between cut-out and drawn animation. It’s quite simple when I’m only animating a parent object, but it quickly becomes daunting when multiple child objects have ease in/out, follow through, and drag. I don’t really have a clear workflow for this yet, and while I’d like to keep using Krita, I’m not sure how well I’ll be able to make it work.
>>7850541The perspective makes it look like she's leaning toward the viewer. Picrel is a rough idea of what I'd expect the rest of the drawing's perspective to be to match that.
>>7850831ay gostoso
wtf is with captchathis is just bad
>>7850675blog?
some bullshit i did in like 20 minutes
>>7851985Least Appealing Faces Award
>>7852025>>7851985I don't think it's unappealing personally, looks nice to me
>>7852025I agree, but I prefer to keep my mouth shut about it. This artist draws this kind of face enough that there's no way this isn't an intentional style choice. Since he seems intent on keeping his faces looking this way, there's nothing to be gained by commenting on it.
>>7852025>>7852084>>7852336The crazy thing is that just by moving the mouth a little bit up, and the nose a little bit down, the appeal improves quite a lot, for what it worth anyway.
>>7852502Hot.. b-blog?
>>7853062based sheila
I hate rendering
>>7853340looks better without it
>>7853262Why is her back leg like half the size of the closer one?
>>7853262You fixed absolutely none of the errors other anons pointed out last time you posted.
>>7853968Not true, I defined the leg muscles better like one anon pointed out. I don't have time to rework the whole pose unfortunately as it's due today. I tried to twist the spine to show both tits and ass, i think it would look better if the breast nearest the raised arm was stretched out but alas.>>7853644should be a bit better now
12 hours leftim getting tired already
>>7850844>>7850541El goblina
>>7854247shrunk the nose a bit is this better
>>7854100>>7853262You know this is going to be a polished turd right?
>>7854274okay. thanks.
>>7854100>Not trueI was talking about the botched perspective. She still looks like she's falling over.An anon even went as far as drawing a redline for you.
>>7854292Yes you said "other anons", two people provided feedback, I told you that I took one's into consideration and said that the other one would require too much of a rework at this stage.
>>7854301Why are you posting over 6 instances of your WIP, do we really need to see this much of it?
>>7854509there's a guy posting literal child porn here today, i dont care really
>>7854513I have no clue what you are schizoing out about.
>>7854100Looks like utter shit
>>7854532What's not to understand? There's a guy who posted child porn twice here today (I reported both) and now he's spamming the board with loli images accompanied with random questions. I don't give a shit about the post quality of this board since pixel schizo.gets two full time threads, and the janny here is a power tripping lolicon. So I'll post what I want. That's it
>>7854541Great constructive criticism, very helpful. Wanna pyw or just here to vent?
>>7854548No, I want you to stop clogging up the thread with a trillion iterations of the same polished turd
>>7854544I don't understand why someone else posting child porn in other threads gives you authority to defile my eyes with your goblin lady in this thread.
Fetishy idea I've had for a while.
easily the gayest shit i have ever drawn
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>>7856198>>7855969>>7855671>>7855490low quality slop
>>7856268That's not an appropriate comment to make toward the first guy you quoted. You need a better eye for distinguishing between works that are intentionally simplistic and works that are /beg/. Hint: it's in the forms.
how do i make porn without getting bored 2 minutes in
>>7856363Be genuinely turned on by what you're drawing
>>7856369nta, but this doesn't work either, I get too turned on, masturbate, then I get bored because I'm not horny anymore...
>>7848605developing a NEET girl OC
>>7848916HOLY FUCK SOCIALS PLEASE I BEG
>>7856589hot af
I know there's probably a lot, but what can I do better here...?
>>7842070What's looking wrong so far? Need to know mistakes before I finish it
>>7857589right arm too long, lower back too lowpinterest.com/pin/420805158949626029/look up cat cow poses
>>7857589Thank you for showing me that adequate shading is crucial to portraying sexual appeal
>>7856431Your sexual energy is literally your creative energy just hold it in and coom through your drawing hand onto the page
felt kinda bad for bakushin after I finished it
Do any of you have experience getting your art taken down from porn sites like Nozomi.la or Hentaiera? I have some old shitty art in there and I'm too technologically stupid to understand how to contact their support. Nozomi seems to be some kind of a mirror site but that doesn't really help me.Would appreciate a kind anon's input.
>>7857320@monosuccsI'm not really posting anything on there tho.
>>7858692I hope nobody helps you. People like you who are the reason why my bookmarks stop working are the worst.
>>7858727If there's anything imageboards have taught me, it's to save instead of bookmark.
>>7857929i feel you. i feel bad when i r34 characters, too. it’s a pretty nice draw, though.
>>7842103work on the legs a bit more. especially the areas where clothing and skin intersect
How do I escape the "character in heaven" zone?
>>7859990Stop thinking with your dick.Start thinking with the dick in your soul.
>>7859990You learn how to draw backgrounds.
>>7860566took me a few seconds to get what it is because of the rotation
crossover
made a fan art of the label from NikkeAlso, 7861191, this drawing is really good, looks professional
>>7861590>whatsapp>cant quote postsfuck off pajeetourist
>>7861191Nice, it's cookie run kingdom.
>>7861632Bro, mistakes happen. Also, what's wrong with WhatsApp?
>>7861667It's Bat to the Heavens
>>7842070
>>7842070Some bait-chan I did for /i/
>>7850541This drawing is from Sun1Sol.
There's a imminent sex between Dreamy Pride and Woman Goat. The goat released the dreamy pride as a joke, but little does she know what the monstrous cock has to offer her.What you think it?
>>7857929Baku baku bakushin bakushin shin shin shiiinn!!
>>7862268I think there's no point giving any specific feedback to pre/beg/s, you just need to practice moar
>>7862076>>7862075
>>7862926
Can this be considered loli, I mean for the boddy type and proportions? When sr.fbi would track my ip for drawing lolis?
>>7862981I think you're seeing lolis where there aren't any anon... but the FBI might start looking into why you're seeing them everywhere
>>7862075>>7862076>didn't make a version where the dick is a hookwasted meme potential
>>7862981You are mentally ill kek.
>>7862927What character is this?
>>7863337Bait-chan
>>7862981If I had seen that pic without your question, I wouldn't have been thinking them being loli/underage. Now that I know the context I can see youngish propotions that I would have at first glance brushed off as anatomical errors or stylization.To be completely honest with you, if you have to ask or you have second guesses, you know you are doing something wrong. Maybe there's something in your mind you need to work through. I am not judging, art is art and drawings can't hurt anyone. But I'm thinking you yourself are not completely cool with it.
>>7863610>if you have to ask or you have second guesses, you know you are doing something wrongI didn't even know that I draw lolis, before I got banned for the first time
I also wanted to draw gay stuff, but I'm not gay, so I decided to stop. >>7863610religious people can kill you for your art, they don't care about your feelings.
>POV>I post SFW drawing on Pixiv.>A week passes, barely 100 views.>Then I post one NSFW drawing.>300 views in a day.>100 bookmarks.>Followers I didn’t have yesterday.>Same artist.>Same effort.Is this really what my art needs to become to be seen?
Idk monI'm just doing it for the love of the game
>>7863642I doubt teligious people have super powers knoeing who some online artist is in real life unless the artist is dumb enough to reveal their identity
>>7863678>anon finds out that normies only care about pornyou discovered air>same effortyou even could have put way less effort in itporn is that easy
I think last time I posted in this thread it was /sex/, now we're back to /salt/ again lol. Here's some recent WIPs from me
Is this immortal?
>>7864029 inking this comm tonight. >>7842552>>7842562>>7844375>>7845541>>7847156>>7848169Superb work, blog??
>>7864036apparently 4chan thinks my post is spam if I ask for too many blogs at once??? gj gookmoot>>7848605>>7848916>>7853062>>7853262>>7853340>>7858714>>7862927Blog?Also I'm gonna tackle the rest of this leviathan of a comm (it's in the queue). Wish me luck boys
>>7864041too much effort, you should listen to this >>7863976 "porn is easy" anon
>>7864041holy shit
>>7864572>shitthat's right
>>7864041Your skill is really impressive, but I find the style and especially the way you draw faces repulsive
>>7842070Guess this goes here, I would like to hear your opinions.
>>7864216its what the brief called for. This particularl comm enjoys detail. Here's another one I did for himfull res if you're interested: https://files.catbox.moe/k6822q.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/eo8scw.png>>7864216its a lot, but the pay is good and I like the detailing. It's one of my artistic joys >>7864809still working on my faces, they're a lot better than they used to be. These ones are on model tho.>>7865033I think the concept is good, but I'd think about the perspective and composition. The figure feels a bit flatly position in the frame so the angle is a little stiff and lifeless. You may have to play with proportion and foreshortening which can be hard to do, but that's where references can be a great help. here's a similar pose at a more intense angle: https://cdn.donmai.us/sample/0e/f7/__raiden_shogun_genshin_impact_drawn_by_mino_minori__sample-0ef74e3017edb61a3437823ba567b97c.jpg
>>7857596Das right. I did make the right arm shorter but it was too late to change the back in the bottom. Hopefully next time I will make less mistakes
>>7865072Your work is genuinely unreadable.
>>7865291nice butt, but that's a boy isn't it?
>>7865292yes. are you disappointed?
>>7865299a little.
>>7865299>>7865324>and i’m hardcore charmed>goddamn i love your work so much. it’s glorious.>(magi’s really cool too)
>>7865291is this the guy from that size fetish shota sailor moon game?
>>7865072I think it's really cool>>7865098To add on what this anon is sayingYou seem to be engaging in some penrose stair tomfoolery when deciding what image sits on top or behind.Maybe its intentional to fill space as efficiently as you can, but this combined with the size/perspective differences of each scene sort of leads to a mindfuck at first glance.
>>7865412if we are talking about the same than yes.
>>7865437>penrose stair tomfoolery lol I actually like that. I made this piece by looking at an artist called thirty8ght, he also likes to play with the size/perspective of each scene It's definitely gonna be a matter of practice to fill the gaps in my skill level thoughhttps://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=thirty_8ght&z=1
Do you guys just use artists you like as refs or 3dpd porn? I want to start drawing coom but real porn is disgusting.
>>7865072Thanks for your feedback and resources! Tried shifting the pose around to make it more interesting. Was about to scrap the whole thing but I liked how this is looking. Might see to finish it.
>>7865996>too mentally weak to use porn as referencesNGMI
>>7866184It's weird because I fap to the most degenerate 2d/3d hentai but 3dpd porn grosses me out. Guess I'll just have to suck it up and deal with it.
>>7865996I use a mix. I agree that real porn is disgusting, but referencing it helps to keep your art grounded.
>>7865299no, do NOT listen to nay sayers
>>7865072>>7864041>>7864036>>7864029I've seen SO much more grotesquely disgusting artwork before, anon. Yours might make a few people turn up their noses but by /salt/ standards your work is fairly appealing and wonderfully craftedVery happy to have you here
>>7866055Ended up doing a little foreshortening to spice things up. I believe this is the first time I straight up finish an explicit piece, feels kind of weird.
>>7863072underrated
>>7864041>>7864036Your shit is crazy good, really interesting to look at, I'm flattered you asked for my blog, it's @venucake on twitter/bskyWhat's your blog?
>>7867086post bugged out, didn't post my text, i haven't drawn in a long time i feel like i wouldnt produce the stuff in the quality i did before
>>7866971>>7866516>>7865402don´t worry. i know everybody loves traps. they are just afraid to admit it.
>>7866812I really like the idea, but I think you would benefit from watching more magazine covers and thinking more like a photographer. The main issue for me is that the angle shot of the limbs doesn't match the one of the torso. The torso looks taken on a straight on shot and the limbs look more like a 45 high angle shot.Take more time sketching and playing around with the idea.Here are some ideas great job
>>7867163Amazing feedback, thanks a lot!
>>7865412I'm going to need to explain and provide source
>>7867549promising start
>>7867549The body in the middle looks mutated. There's a lot of fat and sagging where I don't expect fat and sagging to be. What's your reference?
>>7867572Lol thanks >>7867644First one is the ref but I wasn’t drawing straight from ref, I looked at it and drew it from memory so that explains the disproportionate elements
>>7867649Did we ever find a source for that image?
>>7842070How do I draw "close up" perspective properly?Like a pov getting a close up look at a certain body part or looking up at a person.
>>7867650Lol I’m not sure. Just did a reverse image search and surprisingly got 0 results so there’s no telling where this came from. Probably from some obscure art book
>>7867650>>7867656Are you guys seriously suggesting this isn't AI and you are trying to find who these women are IRL?ROFL
>>7867664No, dumbass, we're trying to find more images like that
>>7867669>calls other people dumb>can't figure out how to use AIkys
>>7867781wowza do you have a blog?
>>7867664I had no idea it was AI
>>7867781Very nice
I have decided that this thread isn't gay enough. Also, I need help with backgrounds: I don't like drawing them and anything I do sucks. I want to try my hand at making simple, abstract backgrounds for my characters. Anyone got tips?
How do you learn to live with the shame of drawing sinful things?
>>7868185backgrounds is NOT your biggest problem
>>7868195NTA but at least don’t be so predictable with your trolling.
>>7868193https://youtu.be/BzsmciMNAGU
I'm slowly losing my libido.This might be the end of my journey as a hentai artist.
I have to do a commission, but I don't want to. Have a Risky.
>>7868196so backgrounds are his biggest problem?
>>7868251What does “biggest problem” have to do with anything?
>>7868244I came here to bitch about the same thing. I'm really struggling to start any new drawings because I don't even know what I want to see anymore. I've had to had drawn my waifu 100+ times now
>>7868266That's generally how you improve
>>7868269lol. Don’t pretend like you give a shit about improvement. If you did, you’d give advice on backgrounds, like he requested. Instead you chose to be a snarky little bitch.
>>7868274>if you cared about improvement you'd tell him something that wouldn't help him improveOK
>>7868185Your background work is so great that no advice could improve it. Kudos! >>7868281
>>7868244hop on test
>>7868779Fictional women can’t consent so this is literal fictional rape you need to go to jail. Real jail.
Joann AKA BlackBird gets dick
Gup
>>7842070Anything looking wrong so far? Obviously, face with hair got 0 shading right now
>>7869080No curvature to the spine makes the pose extremely stiff.Rear leg is a lot longer than the front leg, it looks like you drew the legs on without considering the angle of the hips.The breasts look like they connect to her shoulder bones rather being attached to the pectorals.Torso proportions just off in general, wide shoulders but literally no hips despite having a big butt.
>>7869147I disagree radically regarding hips. I don't understand what hips you expect to see with a pose like this, the hips sink into your body in an any arrow-like position unless one is a skeleton. I am no anime-girl but when I do anything like this my hips disappear
And just for lulz
Flat color for my character. Need to have her in a better pose
Gonna rework her belly area but I’m starting to like this one a lot
>>7859630I really like this
>>7868819>>7869370>>7869371>>7869417>>7869753You draw like a child.
idk why but I like drawing cocks
>>7842070Advice on improving the pussy on the penetration closeup? I want to redo my sketches before I continue.I know I should avoid chicken scratch sketches - I was drunk when I started drawing this, after a month of not drawing.
>>7868799>multiple nipples on one set of boobsThats a good idea, I like it much, much better than multiboob
>>7870016pure trvke
>>7869917latent homosexuality
>>7869917something like 8% of kids do it
>>7869917You don't just draw like achild, you have the brain of a child.
trying to draw a character and style consistently
>>7871362Good stuff.
Am I posting at the right thread? Looking for some Critique for my WIP.
>>7871425awkward composition. zoom out
>>7842070Why are you guys still drawing sexual/NSFW/porn art knowing that it's already been proven to be devastating to your life.Just asking.
>>7870495>>7870691
>>7871439>Replace y axis with hours spent watching kid's shows>Replace x axis with age.>Watching kid's shows literally make you younger.
>>7871439I am not sure how true is that, but artist and whores always have been close, in relationships, in business and in the arts. I think we should be a bit more open minded, instead of thinking it as consumption, we create.
>>7871439Most modern studies suffer from not being able to be replicated, or a lack of peer review in general.Many studies related to behavior or the brain are not trustworthy, with researchers "shopping" for sample groups that will give them results supporting their employers agendas.Many older studies on topics like pornography and sex have results skewed by meddling from the overly religious.Correlation != causation, meaning people who are predisposed to watching large amounts of porn regularly might do so because of the preexisting lacking grey matter, or there could even be some additional tertiary thing tying them together.Finally, developing the skills to draw pornographic material and exerting those skills is not the same as passively consuming porn.Hope that answers your bad faith bait sufficiently.
>>7869911SamiWays went from being a meme to looking like an average poster on the board. Insane that he even looks less unhinged than some here
little shading test
What a fuckup this turned i to. Didn't realize the giant legs at all.Sadly scrapping this.
>>7871425Where can I masturbate to more of your work?
>>7871832@hardroundlinemasturbation is not as fun, find a partner while you appreciate my art.
Please salvage this smoldering corpse that is my art; its supposed to be a floating thicc bunny girl in a void that I decided to just stick on a stripper pole. i didnt reference anything either so ugh
>>7871826works perfectly fine by making the head slightly bigger and adjusting perspective.
>>7871428How about now?
>>7871958Thanks for the redline but i can see your legs are still shorter. Perhaps i'll come back later to this. I realized i really can't draw heads. I need to do some practice drawings specifically for the head now. I make eyes way too far apart.
>>7872093I think composition is the least of problems. Focus on improving light values (not right now, cuz you can't improve it within a day), even without colors those tits would look flat as hell, you don't actually imagine them as a 3d object in your mind
>>7872327still waiting for the next page of your comic
>>7871826Love his haircut and outfit in general
>>7872327hnnng. . my weak gay heart. . .
>>7872156I have checked the values with my blue, what is wrong with the value? How to make it better?
>>7872402whoa, awesome
>>7872496I did not say you can fix it in a day. Just move on and study later. You don't know how to apply shadows right now, you can't draw 3d objects, you have to draw and paint either real-life stuff or study much better artists with good values to learn their ways
>>7872508nta but pyw
>>7872508Dude just tell what's wrong..>>7872496Other anon here, values look ok to me. But there are issues with inconsistent soft and hard edges when moving from light to shadow. Consider if a shadow is a cast or form shadow (+ is it sun light, a studio light etc.). For example on the right boob the strip of cloth is casting a hard shadow which is correct but the actual form shadow should be soft, like you've done on the guy's thighs. If you want to render further check if you have all the basic light information on each of your forms (picrel)
>>7872510Learn to read or something. I attached what I work on in the original post >>7872156And here I am as well >>7871663 and here, too >>7865090>>7872511Values are wrong. You don't study values by reading shit, you study values by practicing.
>>7872513Just give the explainer I'm actually curious now lmao. The background?
>>7872520Light values = shadows. You struggle with shadows on characters. There's nothing else to explain, the only way to improve here is to produce actual copies and understand technique through your own muscles, not absorbing theory and sitting on ass. Here's an example of flat shading by an experienced guy. He has better understanding of shapes, hence why his shading will be better even if he uses only flats. And the picrelated guy is still far from pinnacle, there are very high pros who can achieve excellent depth on a picture using only flats
>>7872528Mm so you mean the anon isn't properly describing the form with choice of values used i.e shading? I guess you could say that but it's very nitpicky, usually when values are discussed it's about the relation ship of the shadow and light families. Something good to understand as well is that the terminator decides when something is in shadow or in light. Even if a surface is at 89 degrees it's still lit by that light source. Your pic also has very by-the-feel shading, it looks nice but the lighting scenario isn't "correct" similarly to anon's art, which I think is totally fine but kinda undermines your point. Also if that's far from the pinnacle and you know some master, just use them as an example, no?
>>7872535I don't consider it nitpicky and I don't understand what else there is to discuss and why you are wasting my time. The guy asked for criticism, it was given, a blind retard asked for my work, it was attached as well, end of story.
>>7872537Don't talk about wasting time when it's your personal choice whether to engage in discussion, lol. Anon delivered with a good improvement on composition and you basically berate them with shitty "crit" with no explanation of what is wrong. I had to pry it out of you and still you didn't even give a concrete example. It's laughable really, no one here is /adv/, you can say that everything is incorrect and probably be right but obviously there is no value in that. You could have just said nothing.
>>7872546Values is a concrete example enough for me. You don't fix values by changing one thing, you fix them by studying, I repeated that several times and your autistic ass refuses to read that.
>>7872548>your shit sucks, go studylmao kinda valid but don't make it out to be more than what it is, a shitty quip
>>7872548As an outside observer if you're going to be so laconic and rude with your feedback you should at least do a quick paintover. Part of the reason people are confused is because you're misusing terms. When people say you need to work on your values, they usually mean compositionally, like light groups and dark groups. You're talking about shading and 3-D structure, which is a different thing altogether. Anyway, I think the biggest reason the left breast looks flat is because the clothing isn't draped on it properly.
>>7872556>>7872549Fine, whatever, apologies if I came off as too rude, that was not my intention
>>7872508>>7872511Thanks for the feedback.
>>7872093You could try resetting your main light, then mark areas of interest into three tiers of priority, then use that as your basis for where to cast the light. Doesn't even have to be realistic, as long as there's some kind of logic behind it.
>>7872567That’s a really shitty apology.
This is vanilla or whatever I guess
>>7872691Very nice, thanks.
Next time somebody says "try before you buy" I'mma break a pool cue up their ass.
>>7872402That's gay.
>>7872852do you see the balls touching? i don´t think so.
>>7872918hahahaman i admire your elegantly gestural interactive anatomy skills though. /so cool
>>7872358I hate it I have to start over
>>7872850I'd love for her to break a pool cue up my ass, ojisan.
>>7871958I worked on it some more legs probably still too long but your redline helped a lot
>>7842562stop using AI as a reference
>>7873944Good one anon! I assume you did this on drawpile. Would love to see more refined works of yours here!
Can any anon help me out with this pose idea? I know the leg perspective is off but every time I've adjusted it, it seems like I make it worse. I also feel that the ass orientation could be off. The reference I had on hand was a woman seated with her back/ass exposed it was zoomed in a bit you could partially make out the leg position, so I tried to fill in some stuff on my own.
>reading a lewd manga>shows a character half undressed in a miko outfit>author writes that he couldn't find authentic lewd miko pictures so he bought the outfit, wore it himself, and traced the reference photos>now I can't help but wonder if I'm gooning to male bodies with tits drawn onHave any of you guys ever done this?
been searching for an unique style, thoughts ?
I really hate coloring can't figure out the pattern every tutorial i watch is more like draw the owl shit...
>>7875816Can you post the reference?
>>7875905I can post it side by side with the drawing tomorrow, currently at work. I know I definitely deviated a good bit from it.
>>7875191why? 10k likes on twitter +comms with every post
>>7875191>AI steals from artists>artists steal from AIget yo lick back
>>7876181I love it. This is amazing.It just goes to show having skill in appeal is far better than over-rendered garbage that i make. Do you have and account that i can follow?
>>7876431Your stuff has appeal as well, what you're missing is understanding the concept of "less is more".Google it.
>>7876456Thanks will do. Hopefully I can find some exercises to practice it as well.
>>7875816>>7875905Sorry for the wait, I sorta mixed these two references for my attempt at a pose.
>>7876799kino
>>7876181whoa, a master has appeared.
>>7876474I think it comes mostly from experience while drawing. It's just building confidence through practice. At some point it clicks that your audience imagination fills in the gaps that you purposefully leave out of your art in order for that to happen.
>>7876181>>7876431guys i love your OCs. this board needs much more of your work.
>>7877069Damn man you drew my char way better than i did (cat). I love that you made him way more softer and rounder than what i drew. Amazing kiss expressions as well. Way better then i can do. I'm going to have to legitimately unlearn my style that i keep falling in to and relearn something new from scratch.
evil hoe
>>7877442>relearn something new from scratchthat sounds horribly complicated. i like your lean characters. just use longer brush strokes and more dynamic poses and you will be fine.
>>7878037Oh man this looks amazing.I wanted to ask you this for a while nowI remember you mentioned you used Joel for inspiration and it really shows in your art. Can I ask you how you practiced his art style?Did you copy his drawings/poses or did you just do your own drawings and just tried to apply his style while you draw?
>>7878063i never copied his drawings (that might be a good exercise though). i tried to take elements that i like: the exaggerated arched back, simplified hands, strong foreshortening and manipulating perspective.
>>7877836soul
>random flop I tweeted ages ago that got totally ignored gets 3 RTs and 23 likes out of nowherefate smiled upon me
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>>7872402>>7865291>>7878037>>7877069I KNEEL, homo-sama. .