>>7845847
Welcome to /ic/.
The one and only.

it's not but to participate in other spaces you have to have to social skills to understand that posting porn drawings of little kids and calling everyone who critiques you a nigger faggot is actually extremely autistic and off putting.

>mom told me not to call grandma a foid bitch, this is literally 1984

>>7845878
I fucked your mom last night nigger faggot

It's just like /lgbt/, you go literally anywhere else and they'll just lie to your face about passing.
That's why we're all stuck here forever.

>>7845878
Ok, so what's another uncensored community?
I'm fine with not calling people nigger faggot, and you seem like a pretty smart guy. Pray tell?

>>7845880
My mom's in the grave you sick bastard your gonna get Zombie AIDS

>>7845847
I’m sure there are some based discords out there somewhere but in terms of public communities this is it.

>>7845878
Or other people could just stop being lame queers?

>>7845847
>4chan was hacked
>Oh, well. Let's see if I can post some stuff on reddit
>"not enough karma, post r/here", "not enough karma, post r/even_shittier_here", " not enough karma, comment and earn enough to post art"
All the other sites were also bad, disingenuous bastards, circle jerking, etc. This place is the only place I can post art, get called shit, and I'll know it's shit. I'm gonna browse this shithole until it's hacked again.

Idk, but I came back for the first time in years and holy shit all of the art in the threads has gotten much worse. All of the "good" artists seem to keep to themselves these days, there's nowhere to post for intermediate artists anymore.

>>7846044
I think it’s just natural generational shift. Internet communities have always come and gone over time. The earlier batch of good artists on /ic/ outgrew it and 4chan is a “boomer website” at this point so fewer young people are coming in to replace them.

>>7845878
The world is so easy to navigate when you're not a pedophile kek

>>7845878
If I can’t call people nigger faggots I don’t want to be in that community.

>he thinks /ic/ doesn't censor art
Can't even post nudity drawing without risking a ban

Wdym uncensored? If you post art on social media and it sucks people will tell you

>>7846131
>t.lsg

>>7846102
Oh yea for sure, that's why everybody pedophile comes with a side of self-immolation

>>7845847
Enjoy your stay and pyw

>>7845847
I mean theres baraag but thats like loli central, but I mean you can post anything you want there as long as its not illegal. If you are an English speaker though you'll find more autists that trek those grounds, it really is better if you can read moon runes

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>>7845847
It is. but it's also the shittiest one.

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>>7846203
It is also the best one!

>>7845878
what a niggerfaggot

>>7846092
Why in the hell youngsters would ever come to this ancient site? having tiktok, twatter, Pixiv, Discord, reddit or even DA to fulfill their autistic needs of expression? Truth is younger generations can't even begin to appreciate what anonymity can provide. They hate that, they want that online persona and that one chance of fame. They are too broken already born in a cucked global culture, they can't let go the ego, they need a profile, a name, a self promoting stage, their own moment of fame and recognition which they will pursuit till the gates of hell if necessary.
They say this site is full of degenerates and dysfunctional freaks, I say is the opposite, they say that to kill this last place of spiritual freedom, people here doesn't care about the ego, and the personal instant gratification of the mainstream social online world. This is a place of evolved beings. New generations are unfortunately lost.

>>7846245
All of those things you named are highly censored, some more than others.
Kids like to say bad words and not get int trouble. There is also a huge folklore grift that content creators on those places make, glorifying this place like it's chaotic good
>The time 4chan solved an FBI case
>Operation Soda Steal
Etc, etc.

Does it really count as uncensored if the pedofags make it miserable for everyone else to exist here?

>>7846319
Better a deado then a pedo

I hope you're forced to tell your neighbors you're a diddler

>>7846297
I don't deny that alluring rep this site gets, what I say is that they just CAN'T interact with this place more than a minute max once they dare to see what is this boring chat box. It's totally alienating to them. This is a boomer chat forum. No colors, no flashy widgets, no gratifications points, no private interaction with other users, no interconnection with other platforms. This is horrible to them. In this place you become no one, and everyone at the same time. The total opposite ideology built in this global society for decades, of ultra individualism, fame and "personal achievement". Some occasional young adult mind may appreciate a place like this.

pretty much. and predictably, it's full of brazen pedophiles and other sexual degenerates.

human extinction when

>>7846386
the open pedophilia doesn't help

>>7845913
reddit

>>7846460
There are more cp in mainstream media and discords than in here

>>7845878
>it's not the only uncensored place but other places will get you censored if you do anything they don't like
are you retarded, illiterate or both?

>>7845847
thats 4chan in general. You can get banned for any random reason but you can still post your thoughts or shit on something. The internet outside of 4chan is controlled by people too scared to even visit 4chan, thats how bad it is. And no, I'm not saying 4chan is a scary or dangerous place, I'm saying that's what they THINK it is.
games, movies, any hobby, any craft, they're all hugboxes outside of the internet. the notable exceptions are trades and hobbies that are very physical and hard, those people tend to keep it real.

>>7846203
>>7846212
the duality of man

>>7846554
Doesn't really matter when most of those things are hidden in some way or another. All you have to do on /ic/ is open the catalog

>uncensored
what does this even mean at this point
if you spam gore and write endless walls of NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER on 4chan you get banned just like you would in literally any other place

>>7845909
Are you sure it's not just the fear of being attacked, threatened, or fired from their payed job by being honest, and not *censorship* per se?
>>7846044
Most good artists are having their shit scraped by AI, so they're mostly in discord servers that're sometimes locked behind patreon tiers.

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tbqh even outside of 4chan it isn't that different
you just get the whole contrarian redditors, astroturfers, wannabe social engineers, autistic porn addicts, third world kids and unfunny trolls constantly trying to bait any and all replies and trying to piss people off 24/7, then calling you mad and seethingcopemaldingschizoleftistchudnazicommunist or otherwise just spamming insults without the racial slurs, simply for posting literally anything anywhere

It's also why most people are not using social media that much anymore since it has become impossible to talk about anything substantial without attracting a bad actor or a genuine nutjob
Everything will just degenerate into senseless twitch-chat-like spam until no one but bots will remain.

To me it's just genuinely insane that millions of people will scour the internet for any posts and just spam insults or try to get a rise out of anyone constantly non-stop 24/7 as if they're actually doing anything and if you even ignore them, they'll just say you're angry or anyone else will take their place on any other part of the internet

I'm not arguing for a hugbox, but goddamn most "people" just should not be on the internet and the more you observe, the more digital IDs would be a fucking godsend
im so tired of this shit that i dont fucking care about muh freedom anymore or arguing about it
just let me talk about my hobbys in peace you unfunny fucking retards
>inb4 nb-b-b-but
i dont care anymore
just shut the fuck up it's all your fault

>>7846678
Pointing the patterns out like this make me realize psychology's "The Dark Tetrad" is really just explaining the four corners of the internet.

>>7846676
>resets router behind you
>unsheathes airplane mode
lol b&

>>7846678
>digital IDs would be a fucking godsend
>im so tired of this shit that i dont fucking care about muh freedom anymore or arguing about it
holy fucking slave mentality batman

What doesn't work and never will is many-to-many "public square" idea. Blogs without commenting and one-to-one conversations. That's it. Anything else breaks the human mind and will end up in what you described. We don't have that because it's hard to monetize.

>>7846319
loli/shota porn has been against the rules since the site's inception because it's against US federal law, never mind that it's damaging to new user acquisition because 99% of people don't want to see that shit. skirting the line has always been the game played by your kind. your presence is tolerated on technicality, not welcomed.
>>7846131
>*lies*
sorry your bullshit lolicon diaspora is subject to laws while literally everyone else on the board does not have this "problem", even the furries

>>7846737
That turns them on. You’re literally….


…you people are arguing with dudes who get off on this very taboo of legality and not being welcome. Everyone else on the board is not subject to “this problem”? That turns them on. You think they want their kink to be widely respected?

>>7846739
fair enough. DNI is probably the best policy

>>7846682
All the problems of the current internet come from "people" who cannot appreciate anonymity, but just exploit and abuse it.
Then when the shit they threw hits the fan and sprays all over them in the form of actual government control, they'll just say it's the fault of the silent majority (who stay silent for self-preservation).


"No, porn is never going to get banned"
Amirite, /ic/? Or do we also pretend the last year never happened?

>>7846774

You have plenty of time right now to download all the porn you can before the market goes underground. Porn will be the new crack cocaine and you’ll be rich selling it under the table.

>>7846737
>it's against US federal law
lol no. the us isn't as bad as some europoor shithole yet

its the only mainstream one. you can find discord servers, friend groups, forums, etc but it takes a rabbit hole to find a place worth your time

>>7845878
> posting porn drawings of little kids and calling everyone who critiques you a nigger faggot is actually extremely autistic and off putting
That's what he means by uncensored, Anon

>>7845913
You can try some alt chans but they're not as active

>>7845847
/ic/ isn't even uncensored. What are you smoking?

>>7846147
Tell that to the entirety of every countries government

>>7846335
I hope one day I can round up jews and minorities with served squadrons.

>>7846638
> Doesn't really matter
jew

>>7846245
I mean I want a name and a profile too, but I also love coming here. You can do both.
Zoomers are just fucked in the head and can’t appreciate 4chan culture. They grew up in a hermetically sealed bubble.

>>7845847
Nothing is stopping you from making your own site. Ah, but you want someone to make the platform for you, and you want easy access to a large in-built audience... but you're going to bitch and moan about those platform's rules?... that's fucking weak, dude.

>>7847907
Yes, artists want the audience that comes built-in with large popular sites, because what they’re interested in is making art and not building websites and distribution channels, are you retarded?
Do you think artists in the 1800s all made their own galleries?

>>7848665
>Do you think artists in the 1800s all made their own galleries?
The cool ones did, by renting halls and having their exhibitions that way, or even by displaying on the street.
Also, you seem to be missing the context about following or breaking the rules - you can't complain about a gallery or website banning your work, when they have a strict policy that you are flagrantly ignoring.

Yeah no shit the gallery that bans obscene nudity isn't happy to show the painting of the woman spreading her pussy while masturbating for the viewer. So go cry a river somewhere else about not having access to the gallery or website's in-built audience.

Want to break the rules? You don't get to suck on the tit of 'the man', depending on their larger platform, whilst doing so.
When did artists go from being punks and hippies to being retarded weak dipshits? And why do we have retards enabling this, like you are right now?

>>7846245
I am a zoomer who is here and agrees with you.... MOST of mine generation are retards who want to have fame.
Mine generation hate this site becouse they do not understand nor appreciates it culture nor beauty.
It hurts me deeply becouse I resonate with many of you here.... insane freaks.

>>7848671
>to show the painting of the woman spreading her pussy while masturbating for the viewer
Even though they are okay with a woman spreading her pussy while masturbating for the viewer and defecating all at the same time. Weird times we live in

>>7848712
>Even though they are okay with a woman spreading her pussy while masturbating for the viewer and defecating all at the same time. Weird times we live in
Hey, it's their rules, even if the rules are... shit... heh.

>>7846460
You mean the one that is explicitly against site rules? The one other anons dogpile against? Shut the fuck up lying nigger

>>7845847
Depends what you want from the interaction, doesnt it? I've been to irl places exist where some don't lie to your face. Seek out a mentor, look at his portfolio. He will teach and correct you.

>>7845847
They’re on discord. Start joining big communities and be cool and got eventually get added to smaller cooler communities as you make friends.

>>7845847
Its the only PUBLIC uncensored community.

>>7846044
>All of the "good" artists seem to keep to themselves these days
There are unfortunately people who come here that actively perpetuate the psychotic bullshit otherwise outlined in this thread. Because it is public, anyone can see what is posted here. And that includes bastards who will match art to accounts elsewhere in order to to stalk and interfere.
Thus, a lot of the people who are better have a financial disincentive towards posting their work here. They might still yap and lurk though.

>>7846191
Nobody actually comments on baraag. It's a bit like pixiv in that it's mostly posting with quiet likes and little feedback.

>>7846386
Retard this site is more individualist than anything. All those other public places with your name and shit attached? It ENCOURAGES clapping along with whatever social standard you find yourself in. Here you only have the posts. That's all. You can kind of get when someone is "the same person" but its all ephemeral. There is no group obligation, no social points gained for speaking your mind.

The worst people online are the conformist shits who you can see follow every single trend in their social circles over a decade, with their real name, face and place of work (if it's not "online grifter") attached.

>>7846678
The people you are referring to also want digital IDs, you're an idiot. They want to be able to actively gain social credit like they're playing a videogame, that is why they do the things you outlined. None of it has to do with "pissing random people off", it's individuals acting as soldiers for whatever hierarchies, microcultures, and causes they identify with, attacking people who they see as either "ingroup but acting out of line" or as part of the outgroup.

They will not let you talk about your hobbies in peace unless you make it actively difficult for them to attain some measure of dopamine from fucking with you.

>>7846774
>All the problems of the current internet come from "people" who cannot appreciate anonymity, but just exploit and abuse it.
No it comes from people who actively DESPISE anonymity because they are the exact types of people who want to be able to lie, manipulate and rally others to burn people they don't like at the stake, and then receive congratulations for being a good little soldier.
It's like the kinds of retards who are ridiculously pro-copyright. They want control, and they want to maximize the amount of opportunities they have to gain something from hurting people, with the full approval of others around them as either the main or a side benefit.

>>7848671
Yup, the issue is moreso that the places that are better are, for the most part, ignored. Neocities exists as does nostr and several other places. But because the internet is "global" and geolocking websites isn't even in the public consciousness, every large site is subject to stupid rules meant to appease retarded europeans/commonwealth subjects and nanny-state thirdworlders. If you make a site that is only accessible to IP addresses in countries with full free speech laws then suddenly you're no longer bound by retarded payment rules. But you also don't have the massive growth in pajeetland, and almost all these platforms are VC-funded.

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>>7845878
You are retarded or a globohomo lawyer, because in our current landscape, there's mass censorship, and even if you don't use coarse language but speak about certain inconvenient topics i.e the blackpills and women becoming hypergamic sluts, you don't only risk your accounts banned but also blacklisted by some glowniggers

If they can persecute just for words on a screen, it´s going to be worse with visual media; especially art.
So no, you can only draw what (((they))) allow you to draw, listen what (((they))) want you to listen and think what (((they))) want you to think

>>7845878
So many words just to say "yes".

>>7845847
what do you mean boorus and gurochan exist
>>7846678
>the more digital IDs would be a fucking godsend
actually kill yourself
not only that doesn't solve a single problem youve outlined, not only its a "solution" that already exists and has been proven to be ineffective, but also a "solution" that makes the problems you outlined worse

the solution is for people to learn oldest rules of the internet namely:
do not be a troll
do not feed the trolls
this means to stop using social media coz every single one of them is designed for trolls by trolls to make money (or fame) off of people by exploiting their goodwill, honesty, dignity and innocence
most of the scumbags of 4chan are actually from twitter the website that mastered the art of baiting they get high off of (you)'s
>>7848665
ah okay well lets wait for mr zucc to make you an artist only platform (humans only btw) that will not go wrong right. idiot how the fuck do you think otaku/impressionist/furry/etc movements even began? people build their own houses and grow their own food and create their own culture.

>>7845847
comparison between 4chan and your living room;
4chan:
>hosted by glowies
>developed by glowies
>wiretapped by glowies
>filled with glowie users
>subject to every law of every country
>anyone can post
>anyone can report anyone to any police force
>can be spammed to death
>can be taken offline by hackers
>can run out of money and disappear purely on its own terms
>can go offline because some retard trips on a wire
>can be archived by anyone
>can be corroborated with all of everyone's other public activities
>NEW: everything you do will be assimilated into the artificial chtulhu

your living room:
>it's just one room in one house
>you can control who's allowed in and literally kill anyone who enters without permission
>the front door is locked and there are only two keys that open it in existence
>you can close the curtains if you don't want anyone to see inside
>subject to one legal system and cops need a warrant to enter and you still have a mechanical ability to shoot at them
>people can come and go without anyone from the outside knowing
>even if you don't pay for utilities or taxes it still won't go away
>can host just as many regular visitors as /ic/
>you can shred a drawing to make it not exist anymore
>intrusion is prohibitively expensive to anyone who isn't already in your city
>NEW: AI doesn't have access to it

>>7846678
If you specifically and in particular had your government ID attached to your posts, that would improve /ic/ 1000x without anyone else needing to do the same. You'll never understand this, but your experience of the internet isn't universal. It's particular to you, because you specifically cause it.

>>7846780
>>7850417
Did it occur to either of you that the only reason that retard can summon the symbol of abusing anonymity is because he's doing it? He can't name a problem he isn't the cause of.

>>7850992
You're an AI don't you

>>7850996
FUCK YOU, does having a profile, logging account or ID improved any of the other shit socials out there? No and that's why everyone HATES social platforms, all of them. All of them are SHIT. The ultimate Billion dollar ID social experiment FaceBook already tanked, while this site with zero money behind and negative levels of rep in the mainstream media keep going unaltered since the mid 2000s.
You scum of the earth can't have enough don'tcha? You want EVERYTHING, you can't leave out a single space of liberty, freedom of expression and thought.

>>7851031
>>7851041
please become sapient before posting

>>7850592
Anon people post that stuff under their real names on normie social media now and nobody except redditors care. It's not 2016 anymore.

>>7846845
europoor shithole here, lolicon was ruled legal two decades ago because it's not real

>>7852818
This is america. You're in america here

>>7851041
>you can't leave out a single space of liberty, freedom of expression and thought.
The government CAN already track you, idiot. Anonymity is basically a formality at this point. Even using something like Tor is just a bandaid, as the government has already cracked how to operate that since the late 2010's. At this point, it's government funded. The only reason you'd not want to associate your ID with the web is because you're ashamed of your own opinions, and you're a coward for that. This site is the same shit as any other place, no different from using Facebook except branding and a few rules. Don't believe that just because you don't have to log in to 4chan that the glowies can't get to you. You're only anonymous to other users, not to those whom actually matter. It's been documented countless of times.
At the end of the day, you're a fucking pussy.

>>7853568
>government CAN already track you, idiot
That's not what I mean, EVERYONE KNOWS HERE that this place is being monitored by feds 24/7, and THAT'S WHY, I feel safe here. I don't post shit, just like most people here, the vast majority of the users in this site have nothing to hide from the "Boogie man", specially in this board. I don't even touch pol/ or /b. I trust this site more than ANY other site out there. But Supra powers of control, (above governments), those want TOTAL CONTROL. That's why monsters like Disney buys everything they can buy, same with google, or Meta. So by owning the people they get leverage on government and state-public institutions. I wouldn't be surprised that Felon buys this site, he already say it once. That would be the end. So people wouldn't even have the liberty to type "retard" or "Faggot", not even in a forgotten corner of the internet like this.

>>7853568
>dude we're all doomed anyway so just be a good little goy and comply with everything the overlords tell you without even trying to subvert it!
Sure thing buddy. Does your last name end with -stein by any chance?

>>7853568
>He doesn't use a VPN with 4chan pass paid with crypto from a non custodial wallet
Embarrassing

>>7846618
Which are what?

>>7846733
You sound like a bootlicker.

>>7846739
No we want it to be accepted.

>>7848671
Punks and hippies want the government to take over and be socialist their for making private property illegal so their would be no rules.

>>7853577
What felon are you talking about? Elon? He let's us say retarded now.

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>>7846678
a week later it just confirms what i've posted
the absolute state

Digital IDs are coming anyway and it's genuinely not my problem
I just am not going to use anything that requires me to use my ID anymore
It's pointless anyway to use the internet since everywhere you look and read, you clowns seem to be everlurking to post the most brain dead dogshit autistic contrarian lukewarm piss takes ever witnessed by mankind.
Yeah yeah, you're trolling bro, sure, keep telling yourself that when you're surrounded by bots and must use your ID to chat with- epic troll them and make them heckin mad and seething.

>>7845878
>Mom told me to not call grandma a foid bitch this is literally 1984
This