Capitalism killed art careers
So true
yeah
>>7851189A thread died for this
>>7851189Proofs?
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>>7851189Q predicted this.
>>7851189If that was true Russia would be the capital of art
>>7851205>implying Russia isnt a Capitalist state pretending to still be Communist like China
>>7851189>no one cares about my pre/beg/ art>it must be capitalismwomen are beyond retardation
>>7851189Do you think the government would want to pay for your shitty art?
>>7851218Thats what they do in Canada.
Thank the art industry for siding with the kikes who destroyed it.
>>7851230>T-T-That's what they do in a capitalist country.And what's the standard of art in non-capitalist countries?Again, they wouldn't want your shitty art.
>>7851242I blame the Baby Boomers.
>>7851189>>7851242What exactly is the art industry that used to exist that no longer exists?
>Just act like a jeet staring at the Yamuna river and think it's cool you don't even swim anyway so it's a not a problem :)
>>7851189>no one cares about my shit art therefore its Capitalisms fault
Surely comrade Kaminskiy would pay for my genderqueer Steven Universe fanart>You work in uranium mineO-okay...
>>7851205It... kind of is? Or was anyway.The Soviet Union/Russia had great arts education, mostly as a propaganda thing so the proles feel like they're getting something significant out of the deal. Your average Russian knows way more about classical art than pretty much anywhere else.
>>7851284Magic cards and concept art.
>>7851205Soviet Era Russia indirectly gave us Jucika sooooo
>>7851351and yet, men can't stop drawing them...
>>7851353>womenMan's greatest folly.
>>7851205>"Hey comrade can I draw instead of growing corn">"no"
>>7851402Unironically how capitalism works
Oh my goodness! This thread seems to be discussing various political frameworks, which is off-topic for this board!
>>7851341I'm pretty sure concept art is doing fine. Just look at any 2025 film or video game. The designs are all straight out of conceptart.org or FZD youtube. Those guys who were working hard during the 2010s are now all responsible for the sci-fi and fantasy we get these days. Just look at the recent Dune films. The armor designs are literally mercwip.
>>7851341Also, here's the Predator flick from 2025. They just put the generic concept art right in the movie. The whole thing is pretty much a slideshow of concept art
>>7851189Define Capitalism
>>7851189Life killed art careers. Art is a luxury and not necessary to survive, despite whatever woo-woo retards like to tell you
>>7851189That’s very true. It won’t kill mine tho, yall be easy.
>>7851189More like globalization. I still remember seeing footage of the American animators who made the Lion King on a VHS special feature of the film (we're talking mid 90s or something) it was a memory that stuck with me because I held onto the dream of going to California to work in animation in my childhood, and imagined myself working in an American studio alongside hundreds of animators. That's all gone now. The vast majority of animation and art jobs have since moved overseas where it's far cheaper to hire people. It's not like there wasn't a precedent for this already being established, a lot of TV animation was done in japan, even for stuff like cartoon network shows, with the storyboarding being done by studios in the US. But it wasn't until the Internet economy emerged that the globalization of art went into overdrive. As I was graduating university, my lecturers told me to prepare a portfolio to send by mail to art directors around the country, now everything is delivered by Internet, and the pool of talent an art director hires from is global, and preferentially cheap, which means a lot of the third world does the bulk of illustration, animation, film production, etc. It's also the reason why I don't feel like AI stealing work from artists is that big of a deal. A lot of our work was already being stolen by Indians, so I don't really see the difference if instead of a jeet in some stinky Delhi apartment building producing industry slop it's a digital jeet on a server farm in Utah. It's functionally the same to me, just art directors and the money behind them chosing a cheap content over artistic value. I still managed to make it though. Mostly on porn and social media comms. I put out the occasional book cover or postet or graphic design work when I can get it. But globalization ate this industry alive a long time before AI got here.
>>7851230Why should other peoples tax money be going to fund your hobby
>>7854662Its not a "hobby" if you are being paid to do it.
>>7854655also to add to this it's worth noting how different the illustration world before the Internet was. There was a huge volume of work for a big pool of middling illustrators. Artists who were not cultural superstars or once in a generation talents, but competent draftsmen and painters who could earn enough to pay the mortgage on the busy work that studios and art directors were constantly in demand for. This is stuff like birthday cards, labels and box art, posters, prints, signage and lettering, advertising and news media, and ESPECIALLY magazines. It's hard to describe to zoomers how prevelant magazines were and how everyone read them and how they were constantly buying content from artists to publish. Every month you'd have thousands of publications turning to the pool of available talent in YOUR OWN country to buy illustration work to meet their demands for art. And Art Directors MIGHT go abroad to find art, but only if the special circumstances around negotiating that kind of business before the age of the Internet and email justified it. The vast majority of time the production work in every country was handled by a collective of decently paid artists. Illustrators had agencies and talent scouts, they were managed and published in catalogues that were sent to every art directors office, so they could call them and request they draw for some project deadline. Almost every drawing printed or published before the dawn of the globalist art economy was likely a paid work oppurtunity for artists.It's incomprehensible how much more work there used to be. Now the entire industry is globalized cultural mush waiting to be entirely absorbed into a gigantic cross medium AI content conveyour belt system.
>>7854678>>7854655what a depressing, yet informative read. thank you for sharing though.
>>7854655Globalization *is* capitalism, or at least our modern definition of capitalism. Unless you want to go around uprooting undersea cables, it's going to stay that way.
>>7851411You're so fucking retarded. In the Soviet Union you literally couldn't change your job, period, without going through an enormous bureaucratic process to grovel for permission that would very often be refused. Despite being forced to work on pain of ending up in a camp in a very literal sense, there was still shortages of everything; you would need to wait literal years to buy a refrigerator, a car or many of the other things your gay jew ass takes for granted.
So actually capitalism created an untold number of art careers but because they're not going to OP who can't even draw that means it's over. I guess if you don't think people in developing countries are human (based) then you can say that there are no more art careers, but something tells me it's not currency exchange rates alone that's keeping OP from "making it".
>>7851205Modern Russia is not communist, it’s capitalist but with no upward mobility.
>>7854697>Globalization *is* capitalism, or at least our modern definition of capitalismnot really, its quick, short term profits. its actually retarded for a company to make bad products in the long run, because they will have to keep making them and this will eventually lead to a burnout. if you go for quality instead of quantity, you have something that lasts, that is respected and adored. especially in media. i worked for a big fitness company once, they used to be a staple of indestructable products, long lasting spinning bikes up to 30 years in use till they decided to throw that out of the window and make cheap plastic crap that will break every few weeks with improper usage (which will happen either way). now the name and brand is tainted and competitors are stealing customers away just by nature of having the better option. or look at steam for example. retards will cry that it's a monopoly, but there is just not a better alternative. it's a quality service compared to the competition and that creates an almost cultlike worship from their customerbase that will just impulse buy shit and never touch it. outsourcing your art and creative process to inferior, cheaper artists will only mean that the art will be bad. yes, the margin might seem big at the moment, but in the long run it's the worse option.
>>7851540why do you people keep posting this artwork? Is the artist that bad?
>>7851540>The armor designs are literally mercwip.Mercwip is soulful compared to whatever the fuck that cardboard abomination on the left is. What the fuck man kek
>>7854930It's a meme on this board. The more time you spend on here, the more you'll become acquainted with its niche memes and resident schizos/celebrities. R.I.P. Pawell you sweet prince.
>>7851189>Capitalism killed art>communism killed art>degeneracy killed art>religion killed art>ai killed art Just make stuff.
People and browns being scammers and criminals or otherwise committing to reprehensible behaviors is not "capitalism".Capitalism is the practice of being able to capitalize or otherwise transform your own capital; whether it's money or labor or ideas and be able to legally protect yourself by virtue of owning what you produce/sell as long as you play by the rules.Capitalism is what allows your swarthy ass to even attempt to draw shitty anime titties floating in the void or gayfags kissing each other, without the government or your neighbors trying to make you into soup.Maybe what you really want to complain about is just 3rd world shitters not being held accountable for their bad actions and normies rewarding scammers, anti-consumeristic practices and slop because normies just want to consume and never question anything.
>>7851189
>X THING KILLED ART OR SMTH O ALGOHEY YOU RETARDED TALENTLESS NIGGER CAN YOU PAINT LIKE PICREL????HAVE YOU STUDIED ENOUGH COMPOSITION, GESTURE AND LIGHT&COLOR TO MAKE SOMETHING THAT LOOKS EVEN REMOTELY AS GOOD AS PICRELHAVE YOU SACRIFICED COUNTLESS HOURS OF YOUR LIFE FOR DILIGENT AND DELIBERATE PRACTICE OF YOUR BELOWED CRAFTHAVE YOU E V E R MADE ANYTHING THAT ANYONE WITH ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY WOULD PAY FOR?OFCOURSE YOU HAVEN'T, CAUSE YOU'RE AN AUTISTIC NIGGERFAGGOT WITH AIDS WHO WOULD RATHER SHIT UP THE CATALOGUE OF THE ONLY PLACE I COME TO FOR ART RESOURCES WITH HIS RETARDED NIGGER BABBLE WHINING RATHER THAN MAKE THE NECESSARY MISTAKES TO SUFFER AND LEARN FROMKILL YOURSELF
>>7854973sleep well little oinker
I can only draw when I'm inspired and happy, but I have to draw on a regular scehedule too. It just doesnt add up.
>>7855507sleep well little oinker
>>7851189capitalism ruins everything.
>>7854973Sleep well, little oinker.
>>7854970>Those are the only economic systems mentioned Feudalism/serfdom/Mercantilism/slave economy bros...we won
>>7855159reminder that 'zetta literally has a large hidden stash of blacked.com porn he himself drew (naturally he used his wife as the female-being-fucked model there)
>>7854973>Capitalism is the practice of being able to capitalize or otherwise transform your own capitallol wtf>capitalisim is about capitalize your capital
>anon can't tell the difference between the verb and the nounYou should capitalize on your own ignorance and go back to schoolor just use google, retard
oinkerising is about oink your oinker
unbaconated tho
>>7851335You also forget to not that not just anyone was allowed into art school. Your career was largely decided for you by bureaucrats. That's just what has to happen if you want your planned economy to function.
>>7854697No. Capitalism is just private property. Globalization is a modern trend that is more than economical and would happen even if the USSR had won the cold war. In fact, competition does not disappear with socialism. The USSR still had competition. Not everyon could be an artost, a doctor, member of the elite. You had to prove yourself in some way and usually compete quite viciously with others for the same position. Ultimately, it came down to the decisions of a few bureaucrats.
>>7856237>Capitalism is just private property.no is not.
>>7856239That is how marx defined it. Private ownership of the means of production. But most today just reduce it to private ownership and all the laws that accommodate it. Typically involves a market economy of some degree, at least I can't imagine private property without some means to sell it. Wouldn't really be private if that wasn't allowed.
>>7856241No one cares how Marx defined it. The reality of free market capitalism in a world with nearly free and instant communication, cheap global shipping, and massive wealth disparities is Globalism. If you enact government control to stop the globalism from happening, you do not have capitalism anymore, that is a planned economy.
>>7851189Communism starves you to death. We dont want that, do we fatty?
>>7851189Unfortunately, when art is used to survive, it becomes a product regardless of your political or religious ideology; profiting from art is a concept as old as humanity itself.
will we live to see capitalism abolished in our lifetime or will the jews nuke the earth first
>>7856612lmfao. Does a faggot love cock?
>>7856612And what will replace it will be a lot worse than communism and capitalism.
>>7856545>you HAVE to want communism and the failure of agriculture if you dont want Capitalism
>>7851189i know a guy who does globohomo illustrations freelance for companies like google. he considers himself an artist.
