Are there just some artists who are unsalvageable?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TPDkaG0ecA
Yeah, me.
Only the ones that don't want to learn, take advice from people better than them, and/or try new ideas.
>>7851885Me
Justdrawbros.....................
is this the reverse howie
Guys I'm so fucking scared of becoming someone this its not funny
>>7851913Question yourself literally every step of the way. And by every I mean every. Do it so much you feel psychotic. Self critique is an ability that arbiter wolf doesn't have and that's why his work looks the same after like three years of this "journey."
>>7851885Unfortunately, yesFortunately, it's very rareI think it has something to do with autism. Because they like routine so much, they refuse to experiment with their approach, so they end up making the same mistakes over and over again. Think Sami Ways.
>>7851967sami ways is schizokino though. the guy in the op is just pitying and sad
>>7851927I really think he's just an extremely elaborate troll at this point
Arbiterwolf thread... unfettered soul. Can anyone find a better version of his reference. I need to pay the Arbiterwolf tax and PMW before I can criticize him
>>7852289Nvm I got it. I'll try to get it done after work
This guy keeps doing the same thing over and over again, which is pure fucking insanity to me. It's 100% digital construction-based drawing with the same fake brush and the same subjects repeatedly. There isn't evidence of a single attempt to draw something other than pretty anime women or to try a different tool. You're supposed to realize you're doing something stupid after like a couple DAYS, and then immediately try something else. That's how you trial and error your way into insights that move you forward, but this guy will keep up his Sisyphean self-flagellation forever or just quit. Mileagefags are genuinely retarded.
>>7851885That's me and the guy you posted
>>7852344how is he supposed to know hes using the wrong tool? He's using the same brushes as the pros. You keep saying he should "Try things" well whats the correct answer? You don't knowI do, though. Its to not use construction, but every guide says to use construction so this will never end.
>>7852430>He's using the same brushes as the pros.complete gobbledygookEverybody works differently. If something is repeatedly showing no results or feels unproductive, you try another thing. Don't just stay on a sinking ship like a dullard.
>>7852344Look through the comments. You can tell him this exact same comment word for word and he'll comment back saying "Yeah they're things I really need work on" and then continue stagnating for another year.
>>7851885I think his main problem is that he draws too little. Drawing for about one hour a month is almost nothing—real improvement usually requires at least an hour a day.Right now, he should focus on understanding how to make his drawings look better instead of following a rigid structure someone else made. From my experience after four years of drawing, learning to spot and fix issues is key. If he can’t notice things like hair looking strange or understand how to make it look soft and natural on the head, he won’t improve.
>>7851885>Remember seeing a thread on this guy from at least a year ago now>He's still exactly as shit, doing the same retarded mileage exercises, with not one iota of improvementHe really just has no idea. Some people are just so utterly, irredeemably ngmi that it's just painful
>>7852430>whats the correct answer? You don't knowexperiment, observe, invent. just fucking be creative. people like arbiter wolf are not creative people. they never will be.>>7852640not just for mileage, but also skill rust. leaving such a huge amount of time inbetween your drawing sessions means you're essentially starting over from scratch every single time. if he only draws one hour a month, i outpace him in terms of raw mileage in 2-3 days AND i have a higher ratio of retention. he's just fucked. you can't approach art casually like this and expect anything to happen
>how does someone get better at art>hee hee I wont tell you, its a secret~>but also learn the fundamentals
>>7851885either bait or this guy has no developed taste
>>7851885This is what you get when you try to learn from construction instead of doing one to one copyingIt’s like telling /beg/ to learn by z-brushing a 3D sphere in their mind
>>7853450what an absolutely retarded post
>>7854096seethe permabeg
>>7854096CopyGODs own you
>>7854096Explain why. I'm not trolling, I'm genuinely curious as to why you think so.
>>7851885May be because I'm autistic as shit, but bro doesn't look that bad (wouldn't fap to any of it if they were the last images of woman left though)_
>>7853450>It’s like telling /beg/ to learn by z-brushing a 3D sphere in their mindi unironically learned more drawing while using a modeling brush and wasting dozens of hours per sketch than copying 1:1
>>7851885i love this little nigga
>>7852640>Drawing for about one hour a monthDoes he actually? Well I feel a lot better now
>>7856817Every video he uploads is the entirety of his drawing time since the last video.
>>7854097>>7854112>>7854115>brainlets don't even know what construction isSeems about right for you braindead weebs
>>7858207if it worked there wouldn’t be a bunch of /beg/s calling themselves talentless
new kino is up
>>7851909that's not just draw, if you look at his channel, he's an animu loomis autist
>>7858207Arbiter wolf is literally trying to draw anime using construction and failing terribly because of it
>>7858207Please explain what value lies in using construction when this retard cannot even copy something accurately. Or did the cubes rot your brain too much for you to comprehend the issue at hand?
>>7852339Oh that's right, I did this and never posted it because it was crap, but I might as well nut up and get used to showing off things im not happy with
>>7858098goddamn, that makes so much sense
>>7859319looool
>>7860030Post your attempt! I don't mind learning from people better than me
>begs and nodraws thinking they'll ever reach the pure unfiltered SOVL of arbiterGOD
>>7851885My answer for normal people is no, they just have bad habits that they need to break out of, or they're not really putting in the effort in the correct way.But of course there are irregular people, like chris-chan, who no matter of help or effort will ever be able to draw well.This said, some people will just pick things up more easily than others, which gives the illusion of a natural inability to those who are progressing more slowly.
>>7859319Based.
>>7861867Nuclear take, my friend.
>>7852339>>7852339Better or worse than op? Tried to do it without erasing and I was reusing paper sorry >_<
>if you don't practice and study you won't improvesay it ain't so
Me too.
>>7861934Someone has to be brave enough to say the controversial things.
>>7859319You somehow consider this embarrassing or something you didn't want to post when this mogs anything I could do, have more faith in yourself
>>7861951Good job. You're definitely seeing the features better than ArbiterWolf. I think it's worth it to do a couple portraits where you spend longer than usual being very anal about your proportions. I didn't do it every time, but I know I've given myself a much better base to work with when I've spent an hour making absolutely sure all the proportions are exactly how I want.>>7862045It's a moggy mog world. Thank you, I'm sure your stuff mogs someone who's hoping to be as good as you one day
Who's man enough to take this week's ArbiterWolf challenge?
>>7862318And your reference
>>7852640i do exactly that and i still can improve and experiment somewhatno fucking excuses
>>7862319Damn, shading is HARD. First time i managed to create an fully-shaded face without it turning into a complete travesty.I know you set out a value scale and assign it to your surfaces, but somehow i always mess it up and just YOLO that shit...Gave her too much cheek i guess, and the nose and mouth are pointing in different directions, but whatever.>>7862045You can do it, maybe try a different method if you struggle. I've been banging my head against the loomis method for months - actually now i'm feeling might be a bit of a beginners trap (as a /beg/, you're gonna be happy if u can draw a box in perspective, much less sculpt an abstract head shape).~6 weeks ago i pirated the Watt Atelier's Head drawing fundi course and Brian Knox's approach (simplified Reilly method) is much more forgiving for portraits.
>>7851885Maybe. I've been drawing for years and im still beg. I decided recently to do one last push of studying art to see if i can get good, and if not im calling it quits.I'm not quite as bad as that guy, but i should be much better than i am. Just stupid i guess.
>>7862318>>7862319I might be!
>>7862319I liked her moles so I used this mole constellation construction to grasp proportions and distancesIt wasn't a complete waste of time at least
>>7863310What the fuck
>>7863310I fucking love science
Oh no, he is improving, owari da....
no no no no no this can't be happening
>>7863310How can I learn such powerful incantations
>>7861719This fucking killed meWhere can I find more of it?
>>7863616>>7863617>>7863720This is no different from using the tip of the pencil to measure distances while copying a live subject
>>7863755retard
>>7863698yet another win for tradgods
>>7862478Is the course and approach useful for "creating" faces and heads or just for drawing portraits with a reference?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8UEx8Rtg4IWOOOOOOOOOOOLFBROS
>>7865373He is actually showing some progress, isn't he?
>>7865373He's still in the contour drawing and copying phase
>>7865373>He is TRYING to draw at least 15 minutes a dayInsane. Genuinely insane. How can a man not realize the sheer absurdity of this statement? Almost two years in and he still cannot understand that you cannot improve at something if you do it for less than ten hours a month? Some people are beyond saving
>>7851885that would be me, yes.
>>7865373Unironically the most progress he's ever made it looks like. He's still drawing the shitty almond eyes though
What's the 1000 hour neuroscience guy up to these days
>>7861719What did he mean by this
Occasion calls for /BEG/ino
>>7866864https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64hMgJiuswc
>>7866894Brings me back to the NG days when we were all just shitters fucking around with these new toys.
>>7851885the reason the guy in this video doesn't improve is literally in the video, he does all this tracing of the realistic face, then ditches it all and draws from memory, not retaining anything at all, he's not thinking, "hmm, ok, the eyes go here anda re this size cause of this, or that"he just eats his vegetables and then goes right to ice cream, learning isn't just copying, is rationalizing why this is like this, or why that is like that, what works, what doesn't, what could i try differently, do something for a while, hate it, change it, get feedback, start all over, but don't stall, don't go back to square 1
>>7861960this is very nice, feels alive, i'd love to see it inked/clean
