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Why is it impossible to find good color and value resources

Every single recommended resource I've looked into turned out to be either yet another light resource, or a physical paint mixing resource, when all I want is to understand how to put together pleasing and cohesive color palettes in a digital painting
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>>7860764
>pleasing and cohesive color palettes
You need color theory. Charles Bernard does a good job teaching this:
https://onlineartacademy.com/adacess.html
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>>7860776
From what I see those are still the very basics covered in most light resources

What I'm looking for is
>how to chose a nice local color (in a digital color picker) for each object so the scene looks harmonious
>how many steps to take while making them lighter/darker toward the highlight/in shadow
>how much saturation to add/take away and how much to shift the hue (depending on season, time of day, mood)
>how to make sure the values work for individual objects but also the whole scene
>ranges of saturation and value to stay in, sudden changes to avoid
>when to illustrate detail and when to allow it to disappear and how
>with examples of how it's supposed to look right and why it looks off when not done that way
>etc
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>>7860807
I think that's mostly it as far as guides go desu.
After that you have to figure it on your own, try copying and emulating art/photos you like and try to analyze how they do those things.
Most of these things are already in stylization instead of fundies so there's no clear answer.
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>>7860807
you're retarded
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>>7860807
80% of that is basic color theory, the rest is basic composition
you're legit low IQ if you've read about optical complements and color gamuts and still don't understand the answers to those questions
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>>7860816
There should still be some sort of agreed upon conventions of what works best, like how music has established chord progressions that sound good even though you're free to play however you want

Pic related is still technically following all the rules of light and color theory, but the ranges being out of whack makes it look like even more shit than before, there should be objective guidelines on how to get it back on track
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howie thread
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>>7860764
Did my best to remove the ''Digital'' look
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A lot of what people call color theory is just learning how light interacts with materials and surfaces (seriously once you learn this beginners gawk and think you're a color god thinking you're pulling these colors out of your ass when its just basic lighting) and knowing your color values well enough to keep their luminosity within their respective value ranges. If you have shit value control, no amount of color theory will save your art, your art will just look like a dog ate a pack of crayons and ate it.

>>7860831
This is a really good example of how creating a large gap between your lightest and darkest values creates an overblown effect and an example of how bad value control can fuck up colors that look good in theory. If you tightened the value ranges up and brought your darks closer to your highlights in value, this would be more of a brighter nostalgic summer scene, but also a value range that isn't typical of a show like pokemon.
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resources, you need not.
paint you must first. then see if colours pleasing are
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>>7860836
yeah, he's learning though and not shoving everything in the OP anymore
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>>7860764
I struggled with this forever until I actually bought a set of gouache primary colors and started painting and color matching. It all just suddenly makes sense. Im guessing the vast majority of good background artists are pretty skilled and experienced with traditional painting.
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>>7860831
There is, at least in the industry. It's why a lot of professional illustrations can tend to look similar since there are usually pipelines and creative directors people adhere to that will remind them of these principles. Specific colors, values, etc to indicate moods, settings, etc. Whereas you're a lot more likely to see amateurs freestyle shit, and there are a lot more amateurs than there are professionals.
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>>7860764
Fucking hate the egg rodent so much for blocking misty's tits the rest of the series.
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>>7860887
I like it but I think the shadows would be darker
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>>7860996
nice, how and where did you did this, CSP doesnt not help me.

I really like the final result, beats the original or my edit, i really DONT like how overly contrasty and bright anime backgrounds are right now
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>>7860764
>digital
>bother about color theory.
Color theory is just a sumary of what is good to minimalize the amount of paint used. With digital, just learn some basic techniques and experiment with color to find your own way.



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