will AI do what digital did to trad?
>>7862238>creditsLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooHAHAHAHAHAHhahoh I can't breathe hahahahhaa is he paying to ahah aeiieieeee is he paying to have the rights to draw??? HAHAHAHA
>>7862238Holy boring, Batman. I can see how this tech will be embraced for churning out endless gacha games and other low-effort, artistically void slop. But nobody who enjoys drawing even a little bit would be satisfied doing this, so eventually it will be all no-draws generating the images for these commercial applications. A race to the bottom.
Both trad and digital require the same preliminary skillset.
Like I always say, this shit is impressive until you want something specific (i.e. not the most generic androgynous Korean boy or anime babe imaginable). Normals don't get the "it" that is missing, they lack the fire of creation. It's the same reason photoreal images of glass cups impress them.Artists want to imbue their art with character, personality, and specificity. In theory, this could at least be a good reference generator, but I've found it's even bad at that if you've ever had a remotely original thought. The moment you step outside the cookie-cutter template, present it with a novel form or pattern, it shits itself. Grok has been utterly fucking worthless for me beyond being a toy. I'm not closed off to the very idea of it like many are, it's just bad.
>>7862238now do that in a non generic ai artstyle
>>7862251AI criticism started as "it can't draw hands", "but it can't draw consistency" and now everyone says vague criticisms "b-but the drawing feels off lmao" and "IT WILL KILL US IN THE FUTUREEE"If a human can do it, AI can do it too. simple as that
>>7862244>>7862251Tradpiggies y'all are going down in the next 3 years lmao.
Is this thread from 2024?
>>7862320No. The hand thing was always a meme, I anticipated it would get better at minor technical issues like that. My critique has always been that AI lacks originality, vision, clarity, specificity, intent, and understanding. Can do anything a human can? Hell no.It needs to be constantly tard-wrangled via a million knobs, buttons, dials, levers, and whistles just to do the crudest imitation. You can't disprove me on this. I've invited, and you never can produce results. People pissing themselves over it simply don't get this distinction. They quite literally do not understand what art is. They think it's the pale imitation of already existing ideas, evidently.It STILL can't even get Mignola right to this day, and how much data has it been given on him? How is it supposed to imitate a lesser known artist, if it can only approximate th the most generic mainstream styles after millions, billions of data points.
Imagine spending a decade learning color theory, perspective, face proportions, loomis, boxes, lighting, etc, just to be mogged by a person who spent a few months doodling. This is why /ic/ is endlessly seething about AI, and why the rest of the world embraces it. Nobody wants to waste their life grinding "fundies" when they can just have fun doing this.
>>7862326Don't you mean two weeks? Isn't this you:https://youtu.be/9SqM1VX2qlc?si=vr2VkH7iWK7tWMaZ
>>7862372>fun
>>7862320>>7862331It still fucks up hands, and feet. Recently, I was looking at Google image search results for Bouguereau and saw a Stable Diffusion "painting" of a woman. She had her legs crossed, and had two right feet.But yeah, anything complex and it shits the bed hard. It's also uncanny and off-putting.
>>7862320>AI criticism started as "it can't draw hands", "but it can't draw consistency"and nothing changed at all lmao
>>7862238Both digital and trad ultimately require a human to guide the process. Working digitally offloads some of the effort to algorithms, yes, but the responsibility for thinking still lies with the human. This isn't so for AI, so I don't think the advent of digital art and the advent of AI are comparable.
art been exploding thanks to AI, look at the twitch numbers.Meanwhile junnior programmers interest is going downlolai will never overtrake art because it can't create art, the art is worthless. AI can create code though, and it doesn't make a difference if it's AI code or normal code because it's an exact science.
Will stupid threads do to /ic/ what they did to the rest of 4chan?
No, because AI won't put human soul into art. It just steals digital and trad art from a database :(
>>7862320ButIt still can't draw hands.It still can't draw consistently.And it still always 100% feels off.And what AI? you mean LLM text generators?
>>7862238>live generation>and not even inpaintingAnon this has existed since late 2024
>>7862411Nah it'll create new 'job title'
For anime fags maybe
Man, what an absolute pittance
>>7862372>moggedThat's just pixai's live generation canvas anon. It's basically just stable diffusion but low res because it needs to generate in seconds
>>7862372Shitty bait, but I'll make my point on your retardation. People like you will never understand what satisfaction from mastery over something is because you all lack the willpower. You all look at somebody that fails and point and laugh, but the moment that person's failures start to become success, you desperately want to keep them down. Because it reminds you of your own inadequacies. How you've given up on yourself, the entire reason you gain satisfaction from "getting one over the artists". You talk to anybody who's actually somebody, and they'll take the person who's willing to try and fail repeatedly over the people who rather deride from the sidelines than ever risk failing. People like you are pathetic.
>>7862498>You all look at somebody that fails and point and laughWrong, I point at myself and laugh. I spent over 10 years learning all those things, and now I watch someone with zero knowledge doodling to achieve such results. You can cope about how shitty or generic the AI result is, but it took a toddler 3 minutes to do, and this is just the beginning of this tech.This is the worst period to be a non-AI artist. I'm almost 40, too old to learn this stupid shit well. Born too early to take advantage of this. Born just right to waste my life on "fundies" then get absolutely mogged by this horseshit.
>>7862376>>7862498>Hurr durr failure is a stepping stone yada yada>You guys jelly of muh 1000 likes and successAI is happening and there ain't nothin you can do about it, begging your politicians to introduce legislations through propaganda and fake outrage still won't help.lmao
>>7862521And in a world where everybody is "equal" you'll still be trash. It's unfortunate. Lmao.
>>7862521Kek, you probably think people who are fit because they eat right and exercise should be jealous of Ozempic pill-poppers. It's not the same, Rajesh. I draw because I enjoy drawing and love great art. I don't give a shit about AI, it has no bearing on my life, I've never used it and never will, "and there ain't nothin' you can do about it." I think that's what really bothers you — that not everyone is an unhappy fraud like you.
>>7862522>>7862529Nah man just today I made 315 bucks with my anime tampon art you stay poor.Oh I am also working with a writer and a game developer who want my help on a related visual novel, those 10-25 seconds animations from prompts are a boon.While I am making huge money and being successful you guys stay poor and bitter.lmao
>>7862541Based AI abuser. The lesson society teaches us these days is grift hard and grift early. From our president to our politicians and influencers, historians will look back on this period as the age of the grift.
just a reminderuse any means to get what you want in artand ignore the losers
>>7862550not even joking when i say left looks better
>>7862320I've shared Mozartanon's criticism from the very moment this shit became available AIjeet. It's what made me actually get serious about learning art, shit was too infuriating to use, no matter how detailed the prompt, it never got remotely close to what was in my mind, so I decided to do it myself.
>>7862331Even if it eventually gets good at replicating other artist styles, that's all it ever can aspire to, replicate. You can recognize any mignola-style image, or frazetta, or HR Giger without being told its theirs, because they developed a unique style and visual language in their work. AI is by design wholly incapable of coming up with a never before seen style.
>>7862552and I will not stop until I get what I really wantfuck the haters, fuck tutorials, fuck the fundies and fuck artist
>>7862541Oh yeah, well I just made 315,000 bucks on a comm for a rich furry in Monaco. Eat shit and shit on the street.
>>7862238whats funny is the same subhumans who try using these LLMs who cant be bothered to learn how to draw, can't be bothered to learn how to effectively learn how to use them without making them look obviously LLM generated.They encounter the very same problems they always had, and hope you are as stupid as them not to notice.
>>7862563soul vs souless
>>7862520>10 yearsthen you must be an accomplished professional right? why would a professional (which should be anyone with your claimed experience unless they are pawell) laugh at themselves?>just the beginning of this techyou niggers have been saying that for 5 years, it still hasn't taken off, and if anything all it's gained is more pushback from the masses>I'm almost 40, too old to learn this stupid shit well.which is it, 10 years pro artist, or 40 year old can't learn? pick a lie and stick to it>Born just right to waste my life on "fundies" then get absolutely mogged by this horseshit.oh ok so you really are just some retard who drew boxes for a decade, then yeah, slop is right for you
>>7862563>fuck artistGOOD MORNING
>>7862568pyw
Oink oink tradpiggies.
>>7862568>it still hasn't taken offRetards like this will cope till their death. This technology has advanced significantly in the past few years, to the point where /int/s can now masquerade as pros by photobashing AI. In case any aspiring artists want to grift, check out civit.ai, learn how to use Lora models and filters, and start mogging all these coping troglodytes who still live in 2020 that pray AI will disappear after the "bubble" pops.
>>7862575OH NOES!!!MY STILL DRAWING IS COMMING TO LIFE!!!I... I MUST....I MUST COOOOOOOMMMMM!!!
>>7862576LOL. no argument. Just advertising. Go fish your grandma out of the Ganges nigger.
why is this thread allowed on this board?
>>7862520>I'm almost 40, too old to learn this stupid shit well. Born too early to take advantage of this. Born just right to waste my life on "fundies" then get absolutely mogged by this horseshit.Tell the class how many hours you wasted playing videogames and jerking to porn vs hour many house you spent completing drawings each week. I got a feeling you are just like every other NGMI on /ic/ that has all the time in world for bullshit that isn't drawing.
>>7862568>pushback from the massesYOURE MAKING THINGS UP THIS WHOLE THREAD. GET WITH THE TIMES YOU ARE THE REASON NEURAL PLASTICITY GETS A BAD REP.TRY NEW THINGS SON.
>>7862238Nigga, do you access twitter? There's a massive movement agains't AI, this MAYBE will only be a problem for those who draw to corps If you use AI you'll get canceled and get nothing from it
>>7862583>THIS WHOLE THREAD.I just opened IC for the first time this week and made one comment. Are you poos incapable of conceptualizing this website has more than one person in it who disagrees with your propaganda?
>>7862576>/int/s can now masquerade as pros by photobashing AI.and immediately get found out by the lowest IQ youtubers like katliente and get cancelled/bullied out of the internet.Also real companies starting to do in person testing, so your poo-covered hands can't land a real job with your grift.
>>7862575>tradpiggieswouldn't that only refer to people doing trad art? as in, non-digital?I assume your intent would be to make fun of non-AI users, if so, tradpiggies isn't it. Ask your canaanite wranglers to come up with a better insult.
>>7862238>what digital did to trad?Digital did nothing to trad, so yes, AI will do nothing to digital.
I thought we were past these shitty AI threads
Show me an AI gen that compares. Until then, STFU.
>>7862599Show me your AI gen that does this.
Can you niggas show me an AI gen that shuts the fuck up?
>>7862602Come on, I'm waiting for your AI masterpieces.
>>7862607Where are all the AI "artists"?
>lolitard is a AI userWhy am i not suprised. You are a failed artist.
>>7862608Still waiting...
>ai nigga posts the lolibro, you're not funny and you're not even shocking anyonethe whole shit is sad
>>7862615>Must falseflaglmao you Bitchmadefaggots are so pathetic.
>NOOO ITS LE FALSEFLAGcome on niggamaybe tell your discord tranny admins to draft new scriptsabsolutely fucking pathetic
A realnigga is never ever going to use AI to prompt sakuras. Shameful dispray
>>7862576funny how you mention masquerading. You seem to lack the self awareness of LLM niggers entire grift being "masquerading" as being among the creatives. As if you understand anything about creativity, and wearing creation as a skin suit, in an attempt to demoralize those you mutants have always coveted.You never be creative. You have no vision, you have no inspiration, you have no muse. You are hypernigger twisted by consumption and vanity into a crude mockery of the gift of the gods.All the "validation" you get is disingenuous and vapid. Behind your back, the same subhumans compete with you. They shill your same LLM models while optimising that algorithms over you. They laugh at your patheitc attempts at relevancy while reaching far above you.You will never be successful. With every shill post you make, you shed a tear, telling yourself it will all be OK, deep inside you will never stop thinking of the inadequacy, flourishing, in spite of every generic, flat, idiotically over-rendered image that appears, one after another, silently, desolately, on your hard drive, crushing you under the unberable weight of your undeniably uncreativity.Eventually it will become too much to bear. You will fail to compete. You will give up, and surrender to the cold abyss that is wage cuckery. Your peers will find you broken, demoralised, just as those poor /begs/ that you preyed apon once before. Though still relieved, they no longer have to live with the shame, and aggravation, the completely obvious astroturfing of their field. You will step onto that #15 bus into downtown, straight on to that McDonalds, a tear running down your smiling face, every passerby for the rest of eternity, never knowing your name, your face. Only a statistic; the man who fell for the AI meme. Demoralised, destitute. Never knowing what it means to create.
>I GOT CAUGHT FALSEFLAGGING LET ME INVOKE DISCORD TRANNIEEESThis whole thread is you being mad, while some of us know AI potential and ain't afraid to use it.NGMI
>NOOOO DISCORD TRANNIES ARENT REAL PLEASE BELIEVE ME YOURE LE FLAG OF FLASE NGMI AMIRITE FELLOW ARTISTS LOL LMAO UR MADpeak discord tranny post
>NOOOO IM NOT GOING TO DRAW BECAUSE I NEED TO SHITPOST ABOUT AI IN THE ART BOARD PLEASE PLEASE NGMI ART DISCORD SKIBITOILER NO LMAO INVOKE DISCORD REEEEEEE
>YOU'RE LE NODRAW NOOOO STOP MENTIONING THE DISCORDS!!!You know, in the end lolis are a depiction of children and no one will save you from public judgement.
>>7862632>>7862634>>7862637>>7862638
>its le womanyou loliniggers really say the same things over and over
7862640>aifag is jeetgrim
>>7862629>>7862638nice sliding nigger
Sliding what? AItrannies don't read, and they feign ignorance to not kill themselves.Anything over an IQ of 78 is wasted on them
>>7862629>>7862646you posted 4 times in the span of 4 minutes kike. go suck your mom
>you posted in X amount of timesyou literally got nothing substantial to sayalso sucks to be a phonefaglmao
discord groomers really uppity they ain't winning today
>>7862629>>7862652stop shitting on my streets, poo in the loo
Maybe you got the wrong Anon, retard.
>>7862660your AI wont fix your shithole country, Poo
who is falseflagging now, faggot?
>>7862652>jeetspacing>mentally ill behavior
>breathing>starved for attentionme noticing you must be the highlight of your life
>>7862485>instead of programming something that works in 200 hours, you will spend 500 hours debugging some vibemaxxed jeetcode that uses 9 GB of your 12 GB of ram ($3000 dollars worth btw) to run office 2026kek
>>7862238
Funny how everyone talks about vision and creativity and then you look at art on this board and it's 99% generic anime girls and porn
>>7862238AItards will never have their own recognizable style. No one will look at their work and say "oh it's aitardv983209 art".Sad pathetic attempt at mimicking human artist. Just fucking draw.
I don't understand the appeal of sloppa. it's a pretty picture, but it's not really your own expression and therefore not really art.
>the only real trad artists out there are the ones who paint using their own fingers and feces after skillmaxxing for 15+ years. Usage of brushes, blowing, pipes, pens, sticks, artificial paint of any form or any tool automatically makes it not art.>also pls let oligarchs have copyrights over culture and implement ID policing on the internet thx byethis is you right now
>>7862814funny how you think it being porn somehow exempts it from being creative. why are you here? don't you have a bible study group to attend?>>7862852weak bait, try harder. you didn't even mention using an eraser is cheating.
I don't understand. Trolls aside, why are people actively sucking on corpo cock? Do they not see the writing on the wall? They're not part of the 0.000001%
>>7862238Let's be real for a second, AI, on a technical level, is good enough or almost as good as any digital artist. That's a fact.BUT the rate of adoption in most industries is stagnating. Do you want to know why? It's simple; no copyright. That, and it's not efficient enough to replace traditional pipelines. Nobody, besides this board, is discussing 2D AI art on a serious level because it's not improving at a rate compared to other types of AI, like text, code or video.Give me one example of how 2D AI art can legitimately improve further in order to completely replace artists? Slight upgrades in rendering? Some adjustments in order to improve accuracy? The better 2D AI art becomes, the less corpos want it for serious work, because the only threat it truly poses is to replace stock photos and stage 2 of concept art, right after the initial sketches, and even then, it's gonna have to be 80 percent edited because (and say it with me) it can't be copyrighted.The only ones that are excited for AI art are either grifters that got filtered during the learning process of drawing/painting or, for some inexplicable reason, Indians. Like, seriously, even the Chinese, one of the most productive countries in the world, knows AI is a gimmick. The only reason Indians like it is because it can replace a lower caste's work, because India is fundamentally a lazy and disgusting place, both physically and artistically. They haven't had anything of artistic impact on the world stage, a country with a population of roughly 1.5 BILLION people. You'd think there was one with some artistic backbone, but no.Prove me wrong, I beg of you.
>>7862868Holy based
>>7862855It's almost morning and this jigaboo is still seething, his pedobait falseflagging didn't make the redditjannies delete the thread lmao.>muh buybile study groupWell you are the one who is on wrong side of history.AI = Printing press.Tradpiggies = buybile thumpers.
it's 2026, how much of a fucking loser you have to be to still come rage bait post after 3 years in a board that has always been border line dead for a very niche interestunironically get a life
>>7862864subconcious enslavement, lack of imagination, tribalism, ego driven madness etc like ther was a guy on the other thread to whom the idea of publicly owned data-centers and publicly owned AI was more outlandish than tolkien novels >7862868>BUT the rate of adoption in most industries is stagnating. Do you want to know why? It's simple; no copyright.what do you mean? expound on this corpo shill.
>>7862550>>7862563Fuck off Cris
>>7862868Cool toy, wish it didn't jack my DRAM prices though
>>7862868>AI, on a technical level, is good enough or almost as good as any digital artistYou know what that means right? That means AI is pulling the ladder. It's not helping retards get even, it's fucking over the people that are on the journey.Anyways didn't read, mucho texto retarded jeet.
>>7862964>Anyways didn't read, mucho texto retarded jeet."Welcome to 'Spot the illiterate american'!"
>>7862968brevity is the soul of wit. Maybe try to type something interesting next time player
>>7862969Bold of you to assume I'm the same anon, american.
>>7862971 you are autistic or actually retarded, 0 emotional intelligence. Hey grats.
>>7862964>That means AI is pulling the ladder. It's not helping retards get even, it's fucking over the people that are on the journey.That's literally the point of all AIs, not just art. Eliminate learners so when the knowledgeable boomers die, everyone is hopeless and reliant on it.>Anyways didn't read, mucho texto retarded jeet.He's literally anti-jeet if you bothered to read.
>>7862974Good, fuck zoomers Based ladder pullerers.
>>7862973At least I can read past one sentence, and I understand how to use commas, retard.
>>7862964I always view of AIsloppa in art the same way AIsloppa did in programming as in it makes people who aren't really competent think they're more competent than they are, but the moment it's being put into the stress test it and the people behind it immediately crumble and you have to find someone else to come in and fix everything, like picrel >>7862485
>>7863001
>>7863003>industry still wants people that know how to do their jobWut.
>>7863003>Need experience to get a job>Need a job to get experienceCorpos are pure bollocks
>>78630051 seasoned veteran doing the work of 1000 grads. The industry doesn't want new people, fuck them, "young" zoomtards wanted AI so welcome to never having a fucking job, don't like it? Blame it on the zoomtards, they ruined your future.
How is this thread still up?
>>7863008>zoomtards gets fucked up because of AI>somehow manages to twist it into ruining existing industry workersAIshart isnt sending their best
>>7863023containment thread for nodraws and /g/tards, aka a zoo exhibition
>>7862238Make it a highly valued skill that is worth a considerable amount of money and often hung in museums? Unlikely since ai content sucks.
>>7862240shut up, you have a problem with credits but you're fine with needing to buy paint and use it in order to paint? Its literally the same thing!
If you want to generate pictures with AI, go ahead. Nobody's stopping you. Literally nobody cares what you do on your own time, just dont pretend it wasn't made with AI.
>>7862256do?
For me it's simple, I like drawing. I don't like using refs, 3d models or AI. I don't need to pop out 50 pieces per day to being noticed. If anything will get me mad it would be some retards stealing my stuff without transforming it much, but that happened before AI and sience i draw orginal stuff I can just use DMCA and move on. Most of you act like you don't like drawing at all and I always said that pushing it without passion will make you miserable.
>>7863023"Artists" are really bad at letting go and actually drawing. Most artists spend way too much time complaining about things that allegedly get in their way of drawing
>>7863753What you’re referring to are nodraws. Anons who love the idea of being an artist but do nothing except procrastinate. AI is just their latest excuse not to draw. If it weren't for Ai, they would be talking about asian genes, neuroplasticity or not being able to afford a $5000 Cintiq.
>>7862238What app is that? It seems fun
>>7862238you WILL have a gun in your drawing>b-but I want just a facyou WILL have a gun in your drawing>o-oh ok i-t was my idea all along ill draw it in...
>>7863023Nodraws and AIsharts.
>>7862238It's funny how the more control you want over your prompt the more you just end up drawing the damn thing yourselfIt reminds me of high school me spending literal days creating paper slips of every possible argument instead of just fucking studying
>>7862566The first sculpture is objectively more impressive god even fictional Hitler is a /beg/
>>7864140Again that was the problem this Machine Learning crap was always gonna have. EVERY FAGGOT(even the ones who hate AI) always say the same "Its just a tool" fucking line but the reality is when I use my pencil to draw I know whats gonna happen. I know when I mix paints I am 99% sure Im gonna get the right color. But whatever the fuck AI decides to do no matter how many fucking paragraphs I write for a prompt its all beyond my control. The only ones who dont see that as an issue are the users who are literally FLOODING the internet with all this fucking garbage content cause their goal isnt art their goal is to get on eyes on whatever the AI Garbage machine shits out cause if they get like a trending slop video on Youtube or Twitter thats like 10 pennies an hour that they get in their pocket. All that "In 5 years bro theyre gonna make full length movies with this shit dude" and the reality is no matter how good the technology gets at this point the trend will always be the same which is creating something that requires the least amount of effort with the maximum amount of profit.Hell in that hypothetical 5 years you wont ever get those big fucking AI movies, what you will more likely get is 10 hour long Youtube vids of cats dancing or celebrities shitting their pants.
>>7864101>>7864140>>7864177The AI's "interpretation" seems rather arbitrary. How does it know the user didn't mean for the red splotch to signify blood dripping from an eye that's been gouged out? How does it know the green dot isn't meant to be a glowing, electronic eye implant? And yeah, where did the fucking gun come from? Doesn't seem very useful. It's a toy for bored people.
>>7864177It's a tool for people that are not in the 1-10%.A master of the craft or field can immediately tell AI is garbage and a detriment for more serious industries.Mister Farmer doesn't care, mister farmer can draw big gothic booty anime girl with a single text line. And that's a good thing, i hope every commissioner fucking dies when people realize that they are buying traced art, pure scammery.
>>7864184With text aka a prompt. You simply type "blood dripping from eye" , that simple.
>>7864168lol. okay dude that stretch is a bit too obvious
The only thing that matters is keeping threads with “AI” in the OP on the /ic/ catalog for as long as possible. Every day those threads stay up is a win for them. Quit getting ragebaited into arguments with bots.
>>7864190So you have to draw it badly, AND type it? Not very efficient. Maybe you can invent something that turns your thoughts directly into images, but then people with horrible taste (all AI users) probably still wouldn't be able to get a satisfactory result. Oh, well.
>>7864214>So you have to draw it badly, AND type it?if you want it to be more precise, you don't need to draw it at all.
>>7864190the prompt doesn't mention the scar, though>jacket, neck tattoo, aiming gun, holding gun, serious face, closed mouth, smoking cigarette, cigarette, black gloves, black pants, looking at viewer, short hairit seems like he drew the scar just because it was already in the image and it was smoother than getting the ai to drop it, his drawing didn't do anythinghe also spent an inordinate amount of time getting it to recognize the ears and took the pen off the second it recognized he was drawing ears as if it's exactly what he wanted, then the ai changed them again as it was lagging behind the input
>>7862868I'm not indian saar, but saying that India had no sense of art is stupid. Indians were parts of major civilisation for most of their existence. I know modern pajeets ruined the reputation of their ancestors, but let's not ignore history.
>>7864280Just like AIIndians cannot get the number of hands right.
>>7864280>India had no sense of art is stupid.bwah
>>7862550>big toe is triangularRetard
>>7864280Rome used to be the capital of the world. Now it's infested with scam artists, niggers and thieves. What's your point? The past can only define the present up to an extent. Greatness is impermanent and must be continually cultivated. The jeet culture is a husk, no, a complete disgrace to what their ancestors used to be.
>>7862629tl;dr
>>7862320Nigger this shit has sucked since day one and it's still bad, you fed it billions of korean faggots and it barely manages generating THAT in bust format WITH HUMAN ASSISTANCEhave your (You) now go learn what plateau means
>>7865440lmao
