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Why you should not trust youtube shills:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH1WEYF8rlA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twy5Wo8m284

Do not worry pressure levels. 1024 is more than enough.
Remember to ignore all chinese shills. They often post paid twitter promos from random artists. It's all shilling, ignore it.

Recommended tablets:

>Screenless:
Used Intuos 3, 4, 5, Pro, One by Wacom

>Display:
Small (10-11"): Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 Lite
Medium (12-16"): Samsung Galaxy Tab S8/S9 Ultra, used iPad Pro 12.9" Gen 1-5
Large (22"+): Cintiq 22, Cintiq Pro 27, used 24 Pro, 27QHD

Avoid:

>XP-Pen, Huion, Gaomon and every other Chinese brand making Wacom imitations
Poor build quality, pens with wavy lines, wobbly nibs, broken tilt, issues registering light pressure, terrible customer support, uncalibrated displays. All Chinese brands have the same problems. Check out the webm to understand how bad they are.
Do not be fooled by myths like "Chink companies are just as good as Wacom now" - they've been saying this for over 10 years, nothing has changed.
Chinese companies have also been proven to shill on 4chan. You will see dozens upon dozens of posts in this thread by a chinese schizo shill, who will either be bitching about the OP, gaslighting as a Wacom fan, making pointless spam posts or giving terrible advice (like recommending Huion). Just ignore and report him.

>New iPads
Massively overpriced and overhyped.

>Microsoft Surface Pro
More optimized for palm rejection than good quality drawing. Wobbly lines when drawing slow and straight.

>Cintiq 13-16"
Completely outclassed by the Galaxy Tab Ultra & iPad

>Lenovo
Worse than Samsung in every way.

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>heck out the webm to understand how bad they are.
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is this thread a falseflag against wacom or something
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>>7864031
I'm still loving my Tab A8 with a capacitive stylus, as bad as that sounds, a good capacitive stylus with a matte screen protector is pretty good if you're on a budget.
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>>7864068
The OP is Aaron, a failed youtube artist who's also a Jewcom shill (he does it for free)
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>>7863595
anyone?
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>>7864444
Parallax? Check the drivers to see if you can calibrate your screen. That shit never goes completely away, it's barely noticeable in mid-high high tier screen tablet but those costs way more than 50 euros. Yeah you constantly fight against the monitor with digital, you just have to live with it.
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>>7864459
Yea I did calibrate it few times but still looks a bit off in certain positions
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>side buttons on tablet pens
do you actually use these? if you use a lefthand device or a cheap macro pad or something these buttons seem redundant
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>>7864476
when you calibrate it, hold it the way you want to and in the position/angle you use it in and it will be slightly better
but older/cheaper tablets are always a bit off, especially towards the edges of the display. on some you can hardly click on UI elements in the corners
>>7864532
mine has two buttons so I use one for right clicking, helpful for UI/menus. second is alt+right click, then you can drag to change brush size/softness in photoshop
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>>7864532
I abuse the undo button.
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>>7864551
It is kinda annoying, but I guess I can work around it by focusing on a cursor' point instead of pen's
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I have a cintiq pro 13 for a while now I am considering a new cintiq 16 or a larger used one mainly because I want one that works on a vesa arm instead of the shitty tablet holder arm im using currently
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>10+ year old screenless wacom tablet chads
Calibration? Laminated vs not laminated? Bulky cables?

I don't know what you mean.
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>>7864949
Same. I'm considering upgrading from a 2017 Wacom One but I don't have enough space because I still use the same desk my parents got me when I was like 12, I'd have to also get a new adjustable height desk with one of those fancy robo arms for drawing tablets but... is it really worth it to drop 1k on just the desk setup? Eh.
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>>7864031
Reminder that OP is a faggot who doesn't even draw, paint, or sculpt.
He literally only lives for making these retarded threads.

He's the equivalent of a basedddit moderator.
Wasting his life a way. No actual skill, no talent, no real passion, nothing to look forward to, except for that dopamine hit of "managing" his personal thread.

Professional artist here. I've been using a Huion Kanvas Pro 24(4k) for a few years now, no problems so far. I really like how the pen feels, and both pen tips types feel good imo. I usually use the plastic one for whenever I'm using Zbrush, or painting, and use the other for whenever I'm drawing or sketching.
Would recommend it, better than any of my previous Wacom tablets, but I have never tried the Cintiq, but from what I have seen, I don't think it would be worth the extra money.

OP, this is the Chinese century. Get used to it, faggot.
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>>7865495
>the Cintiq
Cintiq Pro*
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>>7865393
Getting new shiny equipment won't magically give you skills. Retarded permabeg
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I have pic rel and it was good on my 1080p monitor, but now Im using 1440p monitor and when I slowly draw I can see wobbles (especially in adobe animate), so I want to buy new tablet.
Small size is cool because I don't have enough space and I don't like to move hand but idk if it does matter? Does tablet size matter more or LPI? Is getting same size tablet with more LPI fix the issue?
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>>7865603
Surprisingly, I really enjoy my large intuos pro 3, I believe is the generation. It's a comfort thing, and at first it can be exhausting to move your arm so much. After a while, I got used to moving my shoulder more, while made my lines much more consistent. I was lucky, and I got mine for 50 usd and a compatible pro pen for 30, so 80 usd total, plus a 2 dollar micro USB cable I had lying around. If you can, I'd definitely advice going for the the largest size you can manage, and if that's a medium, then get that.
Also, don't buy a screenless wacom as new. If I were to buy a brand new screenless tablet, and it's not wacom, I would consider buying an XPPEN's Deco Pro Gen 2. In my case, I'd buy the largest option, but you'll probably want the medium, if space is a priority. It's seems really good, and the pen looks very comfortable, which a lot of not-wacom tablets struggle a lot with.
The smallest one is slightly larger than the Wacom One you're using, but I'd try to make space for something bigger. Your wrists will thank you in the long run.
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>>7865638
>XPPEN's Deco Pro Gen 2
b-but op told me ony wacom is good..
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>>7865642
They are, which is why I bought a used one, but a lot of people online swear by the Deco 2 series, so take it with what you will. Reddit seems to like it, and they are notoriously obnoxious. I'm getting one soon, if that's a consideration, though I'm still saving up for one in my hobby budget.
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>>7864340
holy fuck, this explains everything....
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>>7865495
Damn, what a sad life...

I've been using the Huion Inspiroy Giano G930L since release and so far i've never had a problem with it. I mostly do drawings, but recently i started sculpting on ZBrush.
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>first stepping stone in getting into the hobby is a thread made by a looneybin who doesn't even draw
nice humiliation board, /ic/ucks
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>draw nice with pen tablet
>draw horrible with display tablet
wtf, it's over?
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>>7865777
Pen Tablets are superior in every way, so it's understandable.
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>>7865786
pftthahaha

Don't worry It's ok to be poor (not it's not)
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>>7865788
Sure, enjoy your chronic neck pain. lol
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>>7865777
>>7865786
>>7865788
I wonder what's the ratio here
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>>7865791
We're making out later.
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>>7865788
I use a (then) roughly 400-500 usd intuos pro tablet. It's a workhorse, while every single display tablet I've had has had input lag, no mater the brand. It's like comparison a computer mouse to touchscreens. For me, minimal input lag is everything.
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What's your opinion on Wacom One Creative Pen Display (13.3")? Does it have driver issues? I like that you don't have to charge the pen and it's cheaper than cintiq 16, at least where I'm at.
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Xp Pen Deco 1 v3 good?
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>>7866145
Sure. It seems good enough from what reviews I can see online. The pen looks fine, which is the only thing I really care about. My previous Gaomon tablet had a slim pen, and it was completely shit. The Deco 1 v3 generally seems much better.
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>>7865790
>>7865788
The Kanvas Pro 24(4k) display tablet is actually both. If you turn it off and disconnect and reconnect the cable you activate its secret function of acting like a pen tablet instead, to turn it back into a display tablet you only need to press the power button again.
Pretty neat.
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>>7864031
Are the FE variants of the S8/S9 tablets good enough?
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I had the next tablets through the years:
Wacom Intuos CTL-480.
Wacom Intuos Pro M PTH-651
Huion Kamvas Pro 16 (2019).
Huion Kamvas Pro 22 (2019).
Wacom Cintiq 21UX.
Wacom One 13.
Huion Kamvas 13 (2020).
XP-Pen artist Pro 16 2nd Gen.
Huion Kamvas RDS-220

If you doubts about those models, I'm open to your questions.
>PYW
Here's my stuff:
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>>7866717
Middle slut looks like a prostitute I fucked once
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Are drawing gloves important for a tablet?
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someone asked but I need to know too,
wacom intuos small or xp pen deco 1 v3?
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>>7866984
The Wacom tablets feel closer to using mice, in terms of latency. I used to own a Bamboo tablet, and I've used a few non Wacom tablets. All other makers of screenless tablets have had a small amount of latency. Not much, but some. I can't speak of newer tablets, though my Gaomon MK10 pro was just plain bad, a relatively new-ish tablet. I'd bet that +100 USD tablets are closer in feel to the general Wacom tablets, but my old used Intuos Pro feels as zippy as ever.
I'm biased, though. I don't like screen tablets, mostly because of latency, even a miniscule amount is unacceptable for me. It feels like I'm guiding the brush using a rubber band or a string and it's trying to catch up, instead of the brush following my 1:1 with my input, if that makes sense. Even on my m1 iPad Air 4, it's unbearable after a while, and my Cintiq 13HD had the same feel. I sold the latter after a week of use.
I'd also go for a medium, but that's notably more expensive. Also, Wacom tablets are much cheaper used, and unless it has large amount of scratches, you won't notice it.
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>>7866960
They're important for drawing on paper.
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Newfag here; I got a HUION Inspiroy H640P and I'm trying to learn how to use it.
The issue I'm having is whenever I put pressure down to draw something it opens up this circular menu and it's so fucking annoying since I can't make small details without it opening.
Do I need to change the pen tip or something? Do I need to disable a setting or something?
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I can't get used to both Screenless and Screen AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>7867232
That's the drivers being a bitch. Go the HuionTablet program then find the Software Diagnosis button. Click on both repairs then try again.
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>>7867232
That's my only complain with Huion, the drivers sometimes simply stop working, for not reason, and you need to reinstall them.
But other than that, everything is smooth sailing.
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This is the start of my fourth year of drawing, and I always drawn on a one-by-wacom small, but I'm thinking of buying Picrel for drawing. Is it good?
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>half the thread started on a one by wacom
kek
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>>7867232
It's a problem with Windows, it thinks you're using a touch tablet and trying to right click.
On windows 11 go to Bluetooth and Devices in the settings thing, Pen & Windows Ink, then make sure "Enable press and hold to perform a right-click equivalent" is not checked.

similar setting should exist for win 10 if ur on it
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How many professional or accomplished digital artists use tablets without a screen (like Wacom Intuos)? Are there people that get far and do great work with these? Just curious, I'm somewhat of a beginner and mostly draw traditionally.
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>>7867818
a lot of pros prefer them to display tablets
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>>7867818
iirc Peter Mohrbacher doesnt like using screen tablets, i think he uses an intuos.
He did a sponsored review for Huions screen tab once on instagram and basically just trashed it lmao.
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>>7867818
Craig Mullins, one of the first artists to use digital art in the entertainment industry, made art using not only without a screen tablet; he made stuff like the pic using a fucking mouse. Screenless tablets are just another tool to make art digitally, and there are many people that prefer them over screen tablets.
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>>7864033

Are these products even on the market anymore?
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I bought a intuos I didn't realize the intuos S was so small. I'm not used to such a small drawing tablet. maybe I should get a bigger one instead
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anyone uses a macropad? I just got one of these for dirt cheap and I quite like it, although I think those multiple nobs are not very practical as I thought they would be, it is still quicker to adjust configs with the sliding bars with the pen, if I use the knobs too frequently the back of my hand hurts
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>>7868750
all of these are 5 year old models I believe, I do own one, and the only issue I have is that the pen tip misaligns with a cursor when I change how I hold my pen, which is pretty annoying desu, hopefully they fixed that in newer models
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>>7867909
i know this story but there are clearly strokes with pen pressure set to opacity in there. mouse is binary
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I've got a Galaxy S8 and no idea how to mount it to be able to draw on it without being hunched over. Any suggestions?
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>>7868773
How'd you get one for cheap? I've wanted to play around with one of these for a while
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>>7865603
I got this one two days ago, im a complete begginer with drawing tablets and mine already has scratches, is it normal?
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>>7871182
No is not normal bro
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...whatever
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>>7864031
Is the mix of android tablet+wacom screenless too retarded or does it work ok? Theres some strong tablets that dont come with good pens or dont have pen support that are cheaper than an s8 or better than an s6 lite but i understandably dont see much about it, any input on this weird combo?
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>>7864031
I wish Samsung's Lite and FE tablets had HDMI output... crazy how it's a "premium" feature only the flagship models have.



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