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this is like the 2nd time i attempt to make a vtuber model to myself, the 1st didn't even debut tho, probably this would stay like an oc for a while
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>>7864230
it's actually pretty cute, the chest area feels kinda empty, eigher add some shadows to implying the pecs, give her a necklace, a shirt or something whaever
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>>7864230
The world needs fewer vtumors, not more.
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>>7865617
why?
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>>7865878
Vtumors
Majority of them remained as vtweeters
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Face proportions are fucked, don't be autistic, use your ingrained facial-recognition software and mess around with parts until it looks balanced.
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We have this amazing technology for creating real time animated avatars for streaming, and all anyone does with it is bloody anime girls.
Why not create an avatar using classic doom guy's pixelated head?
A terminator styled robot?
An actual dragon, and not a fucking 'hawt dwagon bwabe' anime girl?
A Spooky Skeleton streamer?
A Looney Tunes styled streamer?
Fucking anything with an ounce of creativity?... PLEASE!

As for your anime girl avatar OP... it's cool, I guess.
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>>7866211
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>>7866211
>Creativity is when you do unpopular thing
Unironic retard
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>>7866229
>I love derivatives and purposely misunderstand people!
I'm sure you also love isekai and ai slop, dipshit.

>>7866228
Good luck with your 'plane that has chickenpox' vtuber, anon.
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>>7866211
be the change you want to see
jk i know you can only complain like a bitch
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>>7866282
>"Umm, having opinions on media and art is... actually le bad"
Just how many times did your mother and father drop you on your head for you to turn out this stupid?
Do I need to become a director before I can give my opinions on movies too, faggot?
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>>7866211
I want you to go to twitch and look at the vtuber tag sorted by viewers ascending (or go to /asp/ on /vt/). You will find tons of generic anime girls and guys, but you will also find examples of many of your suggestions- cool knights or robots or animals or rubberhose cartoon characters. And none of them have any viewers. Why? Because at its core a vtuber is not actually a cartoon character. A vtuber is just a streamer and does the same things a streamer does like playing video games and talking to strangers online. Does it matter if it's some irl guy with a beard on his webcam playing an fps or if it's a cartoon robot animal on the bottom right of the screen? So vtubers succeed or fail for mostly the same reason normal streamers succeed or fail- the charisma of the streamer.

The exception to this are pretty anime girls (and guys) because they can play an character and convince the majority lonely nerd male audience that they are cuter, cooler, prettier, than they could if they just turned on their webcam and showed their tits. Because of these conditions larping as an anime girl is the only real innovation in this sphere. An anime vtuber is enough of an exaggerated fantasy to provide appeal, but close enough to an archetype that exists in reality- an egirl- to be convincing. That's not the case for something more cartoony.
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>>7866594
>You will find tons of generic anime girls and guys, but you will also find examples of many of your suggestions
I mean, that's really the beginning and end of my argument. I'm sure it's kind of a cyclical problem where the only successful people are people with avatars of hot anime boys and girls (and peanuts apparently), which causes the audience for vtubers to be the kinds of people only looking for those things, but that still doesn't change my outsider perspective or criticism.
The fact that you agree with me in the quoted line shows that it's obviously true, I don't know why people get so defensive about it.
If you like your anime girl and boy avatars, all the power to you, but I just think it's creatively dull.

Also, I decided to do exactly what you said and take a look at twitch, as you're right and I haven't really looked at the breadth of what's out there in some time... after scrolling down for quite a bit, there was only a single stream without an anime character (some painterly looking knight squire dude), the rest were all anime boys and girls (and just regular cam streamers just using the tag, I guess).
So, hate to say it, but my opinion really hasn't shifted in slightest here, in fact I've become more entrenched in how correct I am - could have been a time zone thing though, and I just looked at an inopportune time for your point.

Regardless, vtubers are overwhelming hot anime girls (and boys), we both agree on that. Where we split is our feelings about it, where you're seemingly ambivalent or happy with it, I find it dull and creatively bankrupt.

(the point about guys using girl avatars is noted, but kind of a digression)
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>>7866792
My point isn't really about being for or against anime. It's that the appeal of streaming is pretending you're hanging out with someone and having a creative avatar doesn't change the experience that much, and this explains why streaming doesn't select for creative avatars. For example, I once saw this guy who onetricked Yorick from league and had an avatar of yorick at the bottom of the screen, and it was pretty cool but at the end of the day if I were to watch him play league for hours on end I would do it because he's good at the game or because he's funny, not because of his avatar. The reason for watching him would be the same even if he had no cam at all. And it would be the same even if it were a mecha or a dinosaur playing league in the bottom corner. It's not something that affects the medium. In streaming personality matters more than looks.

This is different for anime girls. Most dudes watch egirls stream because they flash their tits- for their looks. However by putting on an anime avatar she creates an exaggerated feminine fantasy and gets viewers to focus on her personality instead, albeit an artificial one. From her end all she has to do is pitch up her voice and play video games. From the viewer's end she fulfills the fantasy of being a gamer gf in a way a gamer dragon or robot can't. It's something that elaborates on the medium.

If you wanted to make a creative avatar work with the medium you would have to break away from the 99% of vtubers who play video games and present your creative character in a creative way that innovates on the medium and allows people to play pretend the same way an anime girl avatar allows people to pretend she's their gf. This would involve maybe something like roleplaying as the character or elaborate skits or some 3d tech thing. Most people would probably find this cringe, and it's probably beyond the creativity or budget of most aspiring vtubers.



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