People who started at 23/24 completely self-thaught while still working full time jobs or going to uni, did you manage to reach an actual pro or at least higher int level by the time you were 28-30?
>>7869880way too specific bruh
>>7869880kys
>>7869880I started at 27I could have done better if only I wasn't so damn lazyHopefully, I'll be pro level by 35
>>7869893Regression if I’ve ever seen one.
>>7869895Crab
>>7869880Yes
>>7869880Weak faggotI started at 20I am still drawing even after having full-time job with projects that requires me to be on standby on weekends (paid of course)
>>7869880Started at 22, graduating this year at 24 (been drawing slightly over 1.5 years daily). Doing a tough STEM degree.Now that it's finally ending, I realized that having a job and drawing at the same time (attempting to reach a serious level with it I mean) is just a fantasy, except if you're willing to sacrifice everything else and let your life consist of a massive grind for years if not decades. Just do the math:weekdays: working 9-5, go to bed at 11:00, so that's 6 hours. Still need to eat and commute, 1 hour for that, need to shower, goon, shit, whatever, that's at least 30 minutes. So in reality 4:30 hours for working days, and that's kinda a high estimate. Then there are other time consuming things, outside of daily routine, that are unavoidable, like shopping for necessities or whatever, so on average it will be less than those 4:30 hours.In the weekends in theory you do have the entire day, so lets say 12 hours * 2, but we all know that's it's going to be closer to at most 10 * 2, because what person can actually wake up -> draw -> go to sleep two days straight.Summing it up to a week is 4.5 * 5 + 10*2 = 42.5 hours weekly. This doesn't sound bad, sounds like a lot actually.BUT there is a massive caveat, namely you will literally do nothing but grind in your life. Even if you are capable of following this routine for years without fail (most probably would fail after a few months), your life would be FUCKING EMPTY. A family? No time, gotta draw. A girlfriend? No time, gotta draw. Friends? No time, gotta draw. Going outside? No time gotta draw. You will wake up X years later with drawing skills and I guess moneys on the bank (since you have nothing to spend it on except drawing utensils) and notice that everyone has moved on and gotten somewhere, and you've spent your life slaving away.tl;dr You either go all in on art and accept the risk/poverty, or choose for no life at all and go insane, or just become a nornie.>pywno
>>7869880I don't draw, have a job or go to uniI'm just 23 years old and I'm getting older and older.
>>7869924Oh poor you. My life was founded on insanity and emptiness, and both my degree and art journey have been crawling at a snail's pace because of it. I have all of the drawbacks but none of the payoff.
>>7869979It was just summing everything up. I've already made my decision to go all in on art. If your life is so miserable, do something about it or just kill yourself already
>>7869979>degree>not dropping out to focus on art>not dropping all your hobbies, contact with the outside and every other aspect of your life to work on art>not making the journey of mastering art the only reason to stay aliveThis thread is full of NGMI. You'll never be artists
>>7869880>describing meNo. I am stagnating for 2 years. I will never reach int.
>>7869924Bro, just spend 1 hour a dayHonestly, I sacrificed my doom scrolling with drawingNever felt prouder of myselfAlso don't forget to workout to get rid of stress
