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Maybe but not from dragonball
>>7881837Yes, but copy from life. Copying from photographs is even limiting as technology cannot perfectly capture perspective, value, or color yet. Copying cartoons is useful at later stages though because it teaches you a lot about expression and line work.
>>7881841Here's a tip for still life studying: Pick something fun like toys and dolls and action figures as your subjects. You can even pose them and make little scenes out of them. Toys can actually teach you a little bit about cartooning.Still life doesn't have to be boring.
>>7881837Copy until you reach its limitations, become frustrated, and crave another solution.
To teach himself writing, Hunter S. Thompson would type out the works of F. Scott Fitzgerald and Earnest Hemingway, just to get a feel of their narrative flow. To the same extent, one could try learning how to draw by recreating the works of artists who inspire you, learning their underlying structures that make up their imagery. To a point. Eventually you must make your own spin of what you learn.
>>7881837master studies are a thing, yes
how did you learn to speak english? or your mothertongue? did you just know it or copy your peers and parents? if you knwo the answer then you know how to be a good artist.copying others (artists and life itself) is what makes humans so dangerous. we adapt, we copy, we learn.
>>7881837I learned PHP by copying.
>>7881837https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ShuhariYou copy, then innovate.
>>7881837Copying is the best thing for beginners, yes, since they need to train their hand eye coordination and to break the symbol drawing barrier so they can draw what they see. Or for those of higher skill, it's to learn a particular thing from someone else (like mimicking a style).After a certain point, though, you have to start learning theory and delve into the abstract to make any real progress outside of getting better at copying. Even in a primarily observational school like atelier drawing/painting, things like copying Bargue plates are only a beginner exercise before moving on to progressing through life drawing.
>>7881837When starting out, it is an invaluable tool. American culture has a complex over copying/tracing as a learning tool which is why the gaps in technical skill are so large when compared to France or countries in Latin America or East Asia.When it comes to drawing time, 50% of your time must be spent having fun, and that means you should be free to copy and trace from real life as well as photographs and cartoons.Here's some specific help for you anons in the thread:>Grab your subject and feel it in your hands. Do this intently, and make sure to feel it with your eyes closed too.>Place down your subject, then prop up or hold up a sheet of glass to draw the outline (or negative space) of it with a marker. You may also use a mirror or window.>Do several contours (blind, modified, continuous, etc) of your subject. Follow the outline and edges with your eye - coordinate it with your pencil.>Look at your subject for a select amount of time, then take it away. Draw it from memory. Put the subject back and draw while looking at it. Then take it away and draw from memory again.>Look at your subject for a select amount of time (30 secs, 1 minute, 5 minutes, 10 minutes, etc), then take it away. Draw it from memory. Put the subject back and draw while looking at it for a select amount of time. Then take it away and draw from memory again.
>>7881837not sure if it's the best way but why copying bridgman twice works.
>>7881841in my opinion you should copy from literally everything. why limit yourself at all? and what i mean by that is beyond drawing from life, cartoons, machines, buildings, animals etc also study designs or fonts or tapestries or anything that you find appealing and inspires you. they are all valid and bring something different/unique to the table that you can learn from that will add something special and unique to your talent/style
>>7882071>50% of your time must be spent having fun, and that means you should be free to copy and traceI don't have any fun doing that.
>>7881837Copy but deconstruct. But the latter part requires some knowledge, but thats how you learn.
>>7881837The best way to learn is to do a bunch of different thingsBut people don't like that because you can't put that in a youtube thumbnail with the title "I became a MASTER in two years: here's how"
>>7884629>>7884654These>>7884649This too, but copying for the sake of copying still has its merits, in that you will improve in your ability to accurately observe relations between shapes, lines, and proportions.
>>7881837No, you need to learn construction. I recommend draw a box. I’m still a beg but I’m much better than I was a few months ago before I started. And I’m only half way through the course
> Is copying the best way to learn?No, blindly copying isn't the Best way to learn. The best way is to analyze what you learn, simplify and answer the hard questions>What went right?>What can I fix?>What is a bad habit that I tend to do the most?>How can I incorporate this into my styleA few copies along with drawing on your own to see if you can get the essence of the person you're copying from while drawing from imagination Is the best way to learn to draw. The most scalable way is to learn the fundamentals like simplifying things into basic shapes, working big to small so you don't get caught over detailing one part of the picture and all the other ones (value, composition, light shadow, EDGES, perspective, etc). Even those who do master studies tell you that you don't have to create a finished piece, you can try to get one aspect of said master down
>>7881837i'm /beg/ and still trying to figure out how to learn this shit. however i think yes but with the caveats of >needing fundies down in part >going in with a plan like, let's say i study backs right? i do a rough anatomy study from a proper anatomy book and it looks like shit whatever. but i do have some knowledge of the muscles now, where they go on the bone, etc. and i like how this artist simplified backs. so i try to figure out how they might've used the fundie knowledge i just absorbed to draw this. i'm learning stuff i find appealing and re-contextualizing what i studied
