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You don’t need to be the most skilled for people to like your art/follow you. Appeal is forever king
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>>7890542
so just make goon slop?
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>>7890542
pic not related? literal God level for /ic/
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>>7890542
can you explain the appeal in what you posted?
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>>7890681
I see an appeal in the left and two appeals in the right one
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>>7890542
sure their art sucks and the titties are huge so that's why people follow

but what gets me is there's absolutely no message in the drawing. Lets pretend its not traced AI slop, what is the artist saying with these drawings? Is it something the characters are known for doing? Is it interesting? Does it express what they think of the gatcha or whatever?

If the skill is low, the the soul nonexistent, the message completely empty, what's left? Raw brand appeal?
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>>7890542
The hardest thing about creating is regular and fast output anyway. It's literally the hardest thing. That everything takes so long, and you are never finished. This means having to work constantly, othetwise you just don't get anything done
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>>7890542
How do I grind appeal?
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>>7890743
Depends on what kind of appeal you mean. But in general it's just about taste and paying attention to every detail.
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>>7890542
Anon pyw is already an achievement for /ic/
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>>7890757
I was half joking but sexual appeal I guess as my immediate goal to try making coom bux on the side.
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>>7890769
Literally just copy what millions of other coom artists are doing. It's that easy. Or use AI, the average coomer can't tell anymore nor do they care. AI accounts are getting huge and they can farm like 10 niches at once no problem
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>>7890542
Tits and aassssss
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You’ve already lost if money and fame are your motivation. It takes at least one year of hard work just to get out of /beg/. By then you are still at 0 followers and nobody caring.
You are dreaming of stardom while flipping burgers at McDonalds.
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There's a lot of cope in this thread.
>be /ic beglet
>20 followers on xitter
>heh, I just don't have a bigger account because I don't practice enough, because I don't post enough, because I don't cater to trends, because I don't draw erotica, because I don't use references, because I don't draw fanart
If having followers is important enough to you to complain about those who do, and if gaining followers is as simple as you claim, why not just do those things? Or is it just cope because you know that your art lacks appeal, and that even if you switched from drawing wholesome uwu cat girl OC floating in a void, to sexy catwoman with big tits, you'd still just struggle to pull in those 10 likes per tweet?
Or if you truly believe that drawing this that or the other is the secret to big numbers, and that you think drawing this or that is bad, then there's no reason to give a shit about those numbers and instead just ignore the social media numbers game and whining about said numbers game, and just keep drawing the same stuff you've always drawn, at the same rate you've always drawn it.
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do NOT post your work
i don't even want to see it
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>>7891017
>heh, I just don't have a bigger account because I don't practice enough
This is the opposite of cope though? Taking responsibility and vowing to work harder is good
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>>7891084
No, it's cope, thinking that they'll happen to develop appeal (or even basic improvement) through practice, when the reality is that is very far from a guarantee. It's on the same level as "eh I'll get to it tomorrow" for procrastinators
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>>7891107
might as well say quit drawing, when saying you need to fucking practice is considered "cope".
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>>7890743
You don't. It's something you are born with. "Appeal" is synonymous for "sovl".
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Does my permabeg shit have appeal/soul/agarthan vril/whatever the kids are calling it today
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>>7891911
yeah it does :)
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>>7890542
Todd McFarlane is the perfect example of this... just make sure it looks cool.
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>>7890542
Jace a former sims 3 concept artist is more skilled than 99% of /ic/. Too bad he can't use his skills to make anything interesting. This should give people a hint that godlike art skills is not enough to get popular.
Fucking Dobson got more popularity than Jace likely ever will.
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>>7896492
Pretty sure the patreon meta is dead in 2026, if you didn't get in early you're most likely fucked
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>>7890708
I wrote about this years ago.

I noticed that a lot of artwork is just "look at how good i can draw!" without any meaning behind the actual work. It would feel discouraging because the whole point of the drawing itself is to make you feel inadequate compared to their technical ability. There is no point beyond that.

When I started to look at Kim Jung Gi's work however, I didn't feel this. I know I'll never get to his level but his artwork still inspires me and makes me want to draw. You can feel that he is doing the drawing because he genuinely finds it fun. He's not drawing to mog on other artists even though he could. He's doing it for fun and it shows in his work. And you think to yourself, "hey, I want to have fun too!" and so you go and draw. But whenever you see artists that draw just to show off their technical ability and shit on other artists, you get the opposite feeling.

This might be a schizo take but I believe that every piece of art, whether written, drawn, sang, or played, has an essence behind it. This essence manipulates our emotions to feel certain things. Lust, envy, hate, joy, etc. Thus, when artists post work that are simply a display of technical skill, they are imbuing the essence of envy into their work. Those weak to this essence will find their willpower to draw diminishing while those unaffected by that particular essence remain the same. The more insecurities you have about drawing, the more easily you are affected by essences. That's why artists who are really good are rarely affected. Also, some people have low sensitivity to these things as well so they also might not feel these things either.

This essence is essentially what you'd consider the "soul."
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>>7896498
this is simply not true
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>>7896504
Technical ability is just interesting to look at. The artist is just giving you eye candy. That's not a reason to be offended by it.
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>>7896517
Drawing just to show off technical ability is the equivalent of me using a bunch of fancy words in a book without saying at all. You'd wonder what the point of wasting your time reading it was and you'd immediately feel like the writer just wanted to stroke his own ego. "Ok, cool, you can string a bunch of nice-sounding words together. So what?" It's impressive but utterly meaningless.

This is what I think about so called "eye-candy" drawings. You look at them once and give them little thought. Though I was talking more about drawings that showed off technical ability, not really eye-candy drawings. Those are similar but slightly different.

For instance, pic-related is a FAR more interesting drawing despite not showing off nearly as much technical skill as something like >>7895948 is doing. The spider-man drawing looks technically nice but it's boring and feels like a lot of work just to say absolutely nothing. Pic-related is a much more simpler drawing comparatively that says WAY more than the spider-man image says.

But perhaps it's just my bias. I focus on story-telling more than drawing so naturally I gravitate towards art that actually means something over technically nice drawings. But I will never understand how other artists can care about technical ability. Writers don't tend to do this as far as I'm aware.
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>>7896539
Its really funny how all these eastern artists dedicate their lives to this retarded soulless shit.

The artists themselves will just take one look at the nice anime girl drawings theyve spammed all over social media and then basically throw it in the trash and abandon it, saying it doesn't mean anything and you're an idiot for even asking. So they have no right to complain about AI.
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You want to draw "soul"
Just fucking draw it.

Why give a shit what literal animals bark about?
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>>7896574
AI is basically just soulless art at the end of the day and the only people mad about it are people that have never actually DONE anything with their art. That's why you don't see writers make as much of a fuss about AI as artists because AI can't properly make good stories. It can write well but it can't really do anything creatively well with writing.

The problem with drawing is that people get good at a technical level, stop there, and never learn how to actually say anything with their art. So when something like AI comes around and takes their job from them, they're in trouble.

Anyone who actually did something with their art rather than just generic anime girl on a white background kind of shit has absolutely nothing to worry about when it comes to AI.
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>>7890542
Appeal is skill too, and that drawing surely isn't beg level, and surely too much high for several people already
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>>7896683
Even if you say something with your art, it doesn't mean people will give a shit about it. They rather goon to AI anime gitls with highly rendered pussies.

To really have guaranteed success you need to be highly talented, otherwise AI will easily be better than you



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