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>draw in my room where all the distracting porn is for the longest time
>cant focus for more than a few minutes
>finally say fuck it and buy a proper drawing desk
>put it in the garage away from the pornputer
>now i have no choice but to sit and work
>keep music off too as its just another distraction
>proceed to spend more time staring into space than drawing for the next hour
How long until I reset? What helps you guys lock in and focus?
inb4 >youre fucked give up
Any habit can be broken with enough persistence. I'm gonna keep at it regardless but I could use some advice along the way
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Some people do better with music. Though some say lyricless music is better than those with lyrics
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>>7891148
Stop jerking to porn and jerk to imagination. You can still look at porn, just jerk later, it will have less sway over you.
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>>7891148
I don't wait for inspiration I just draw.
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>>7891148
you answered your own question, howie.
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I always save albums and ideas to the point where it makes me excited to sit and draw, always feels new and fresh
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I always like having IRL twitch streams running in the background. If the streamer is not too annoying, then it's good for background noise.

Complete silence majes me uneasy, especially when drawing, but I also have PTSD.
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>>7891148
I liked the illustration so I went looking for it
and holy shit
https://www.universalfreemasonry.org/en/gallery/secret-teachings/
this is essentially the entire art direction and world building for elden ring
I'm tripping balls looking at some of these and reading some of the text
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>>7891283
Freemasons, and other similar organizations, essentially share symbols, concepts, stories and ideas in order to influence the world in a certain direction. They are the original media of the world, of course that history shapes current media to an extent.
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>>7891148
I go to my local library to draw. Solves that problem for me, and you can even socialize if you want
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>>7892473
I might try this this weekend
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>>7891283
>>7891914
bro is just now finding out that the Masons run Video games lmao
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>>7893109
Bouncha bullshiet
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>>7891148
>How long until I reset?
i forgot the name of the doctor that specializes on this shit, but he said that can take an addict up to 4 weeks without their vice to help get clean, and it take up to 2 weeks on other people
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>>7891283
interedasting, thanks for sharing senpai
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>>7891148
>>7895776
That's bullshit, if we're talking about gooning. SEX is an innate structural part of the human species, you CAN'T "go clean", and "get rid" of that. If you're not driven by SEX then you're dead or dying in physiological terms. The diminishing of the sex drive at the end of the life cycle triggers all the rest of function termination of the human body. That's what menopause is, depression, fall of the immune system, cancer, mental deterioration. Testosterone replacement treatment on men helps to reverse that. If you want to life forever, if you want to be young till you die then you have to EMBRACE SEX, YOU HAVE TO BE A GOONER GOD, YOU HAVE TO LET THE FLUID OF LIFE CYCLE RUN THROUGH YOUR BODY LIKE A FUCKING PROPULSION JET FIRE...
The problem with that, is to control that incredible energy, to pull your shit together, and keep it within. All that tantra shit and retention crap, is supposed to tackle that. It is not bullshit, but it won't work in most people who don't understand the core nature of this human trait.
So no, becoming an ascetic, asexual retard won't give you an edge on anything at all, on the contrary it will kill your will and motivation. You may function as some kind of soulless automaton, but the spark of creation wont be alive withing yourself. you will become an empty shell.
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>>7895782
>asexual
we are talking about not jerking of 24/7, don't need to sperg out like that lol
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>>7895783
that also would make one very sleepy and no drive at all anymore. i actually believe if you derive yourself from the climax a little more often, you will be hungrier to do other stuff, excel at your goals because your dick guides you. if you just jerk it everytime you want to "feel good" then why do anything, right?
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>>7895784
>get all dopamine in the morning jerking off
>has none when is time to study
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>>7895786
thats why kiryu is so strong.
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>>7895783
That's why I worte this:
>The problem with that, is to control that incredible energy, to pull your shit together, and keep it within. All that tantra shit and retention crap, is supposed to tackle that.
What I'm saying is not to fall for that "GOON IS EVIL" CRAP. That's like the radiation cancer treatment, killing your whole fucking organism, spirit and everything to keep you from jacking off. That also depends on your age. There's an age when fapping is a fucking unstoppable force, trying to "correct" that can mess up a dude, because a natural thing is running its course and it will find its balance "sort of" around 20YO. After that you better keep that shit on check, in a healthy way. But that recent trend gas-lighting youngsters with "no tits, no pussy, that's sin, read the bible" that's BULLSHIT. Without sex drive you won't have a functioning healthy spirit fueling your brain.
>>7891283
Yeah, freemasons are onto something, the "G" stands for the creation conceptual symbol, "Genesis" "Genitalia", that fucking apron they wear on top of their dicks, it means exactly that, the "tabernacle" housing the sacred god's creating "tool". That's why they put aside women, they believe the creation life force lives on the male Gonads, creating testosterone, fueling the moving force shaping reality in this world through our will.
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>>7891148

>proceed to spend more time staring into space than drawing for the next hour

Real talk, you actually just needed to stare into space. You spend too much time overstimulated and you need time to Do Nothing for a while, to let your brain rest. Imagine only inhaling and never exhaling. That's what you're doing to your brain when you're always doing Something all the time.
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>>7891168
Source?
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>>7892473
>what're you drawing anon?
no thanks I hate people
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>>7895828
Do you ever sleep?
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>that recent trend gas-lighting youngsters with "no tits, no pussy, that's sin, read the bible" that's BULLSHIT
Actually true. I was born in the internet age and am highly concerned with the idea that we all lived as sexless protestant pilgrims in holy union with God and the universe until the evil jews invented internet pornography in 2001 after 9/11.
People were always INSANELY horny and even surprisingly kinky too; almost any deviant fetish that doesn't involve a contemporary character had documented historical analogues. I would argue that we have simply moved all of that sexual energy online instead of in person.
Instead of people having to deal with each other in person to get sexual/emotional/physical/financial gratification, we can do it from the "safety" of our homes.

I think that it's not wrong to feel suspicious of pornography because it is a supernormal stimulus by almost every metric, and people certainly can get carried away, but we need to distinguish between a genuine addiction that impacts normal life functions vs something that almost borders on OCD about porn use or masturbation.
I recently saw a vid on yt from a late teen-early 20 zoomer recounting how he failed nofap one summer at 17 because he saw some hoe while scrolling insta and couldn't help himself. He was depressed because he broke a 6 month streak at the time. This is absurd. The level of willpower it would have taken me to not do it once in 6 months at 17(!) is fucking insane. The man deserves a medal, not depression.
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>>7895795
These zoomers have got it into their heads that some as natural as having a bowel movement is the root of all evil and a moral failing on their part. Very much like shitting, there are times and places for it, and if you can't go out with friends or hold down a job because you are always running to the bathroom (for either reason) then you have a problem, but if you are like a "normal" person that spends like 15 minutes a week on it, then you are not defective or weak or morally bad in any way!

Don't forget that for the OVERWHELMINGLY vast majority of human civilization both men and women paired up and started to form families as literal teenagers (inb4 I'm a pedo for telling the truth; no, almost all people seem to pair up with people around their own age and I intend to do the same). People didn't live that long in a world were an infected paper-cut could be a death sentence, and because of high infant mortality, they had to have loads of kids just to keep replacement rate. As a result they had to start having kids young and have loads of them before they died at 25-30. The contemporary path of becoming a girl boss CEO project manager and MAYBE pairing up and having a kid at 38 or 40 or having to become a roided out crypto-dropshipping-brazillian-jew-jitsu billionaire former navy seal with 20 pack abs before you can be worthy of a girlfriend at 50 (I guess) is just completely the opposite of how we evolved. Being interested in sex in your teens/20's is COMPLETELY NATURAL! It would have been your primary objective at that stage in life at literally any other point in human history except for this contemporary neo-liberal neo-modern neo-capitalist ne0-H3LL we find ourselves in. Porn and masturbation is just what we do to sate our most important drive. It's men (and women frankly, just look at romantasy novels lmao) drinking water to stave of hunger pains because we live in a broken society that has failed to satisfy our core functions as human animals.
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nigga calm down no ones taking the porn away
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>>7896120
Ask the brits.
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>>7896042
The Internet has done untold damage to pornography by making it an antisocial institution. It’s solely about intimacy and other people, but people growing up in the internet age think that it’s the opposite of that.
Anyways, porn is literally not supernormal. Anything produced with a camera can be just as well be seen without one, and anything produced without is directly projected from the mind into the medium. You’ll see the same stuff while having a wet dream. It wouldn’t break your water fast. There’s quite literally nothing there that could be meaningfully different from caveman times.
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>>7896043
TLTR: PLANNED DEPOPULATION.

Interesting thoughts anon.
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>>7896135
>The Internet has done untold damage to pornography by making it an antisocial institution. It’s solely about intimacy and other people, but people growing up in the internet age think that it’s the opposite of that.
I kinda see your point a little bit, but largely I disagree. If you were interested in weird degenerate kink stuff (or were gay) you had to network and have social groups etc. Being into weird kink shit irl is quite pro-social in my limited experience. On the internet tho? I think the screen changes things a lot.

>porn is literally not supernormal. Anything produced with a camera can be just as well be seen without one, and anything produced without is directly projected from the mind into the medium. You’ll see the same stuff while having a wet dream. It wouldn’t break your water fast. There’s quite literally nothing there that could be meaningfully different from caveman times.
Okay you are probably some imagination gigachad who can see the apple in full 3D rotating around in full colour in your head xD
I think that the reality is that most teenage boys today have seen more naked women then ancient emperors and pharaohs have. Plus we have editing and photoshop, not to mention half this board is obsessed with drawing porn, most of which is quite supernormal i.e. exaggeration and and outright fantasy (impossibly large busts, genitals, copulation with mythical creatures, furries etc.) All this on 90% adobe SRGB monitors and high resolution. Just the sheer variety alone accessible at virtually any convenience is alone enough to make it supernormal.



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