If you are a /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.DO NOT REPLY to crabs, nodraws, retards that whine about how hard drawing is or talent debates and instead focus on posted works!>STICKY:Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/viewNew collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Qw/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view>WHERE to get study materialsannas-archive.org>>>/ic/artbook>>>/ic/video>Want to practice figures?quickposes.comsketchdaily.netcharacterdesigns.comlovelifedrawing.composemy.artline-of-action.com>Post Your Work and give your feedbackWhat can be improved?Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.When receiving a critique, try to provide one in return>best art teachersGlenn VilppuMichael HamptonSteve HustonBrent EvistonMarco BucciAndrew LoomisGeorge BridgmanHikaru HayashiHide Sensei>best art booksKeys To DrawingDrawing With the Right Side of the BrainHow To Draw Comics the Marvel WayThe Art and Science of DrawingFramed PerspectiveFigure Drawing For All It's WorthThe Complete Guide to Drawing From LifePrevious thread: >>7892984
>>7896478The worried duckairplane is soulful
>>7896478What an absolute KINO. Thanks OP
>>7896485You're gay.
>>7896478These OPs are just getting better and better, keep it up
>>7896485its.. its over..
Do artists who dοn't draw faces well end up just learning one face really well (like all the angles) and just copy that?And that's how you end up with sameface artists?
early thread challenge(can someone redline the ribcage here?)
more akekuri>>7896098aiza really grew up well
>>7896478>Tfw the OP is glorious >Tfw I'm actually on itTODAY IS GONNA BE A GOOD DAY
>>7896495sameface artists copy the same few tools over and over to construct heads, it's a crutch to avoid drawing carefully from observation.it's all about how much an artist is willing to expand his or her arsenal of tools by drawing different heads from observation.for tranime, the whole art style of drawing that is basically symbol drawing, with subtle modifications to each symbol or color/clothing providing differentiation.
fixed some of the anatomical errors and tried playing around with line weight. Still a wip. Thoughts?
>>7896503>>7896495Another reason this happens is deadlines and trying to get things done for production. Animating and making manga/comics requires drawing a large volume and formulaic methods help get the work done on time.
tried doing a quick before bath study, kind of shit but it was a nice challenge and I think his arms look nice>>7896493looks cool>>7896496wow another woman in underwear>>7896497nice perspective, rap album vibes
i drew feet before, now im working on vaginas
and here's the ref for a PROPER thread challenge
>>7896511i figure ill make improvement like with my feet drawingsfor whatever reason, doing thousands of gesture/figure drawings didnt improve my ability to draw the human body but if i zoom into one specific body part and grind that out, i can see actual improvementi have no idea why though...
>>7896478Thread challenge face ass
>>7896511
>>7896506I think you shoulder reserve thicker lines for dark areas opposite the light source or objects close to the camera. The crease between his pecs is one of the thickest in the whole image which makes me think there's some weirdly deep crevice there.
Repasta since I posted in last thread when it was auto sliding. This was just a tired sketch, but I rather like the last minute heads I added. I usually try to make all my characters look tired.
>>7896522the ginger guy is pretty, the designs look cool. gj
fatha>>7896511looking gooood>>7896497cool perspective :3>>7896478kino op, as usual now
I don't want to forget it again after waking up. God help me please. I don't want to forget. I fear to forget. So please, God. I only ask you this.Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be Thy name; Thy kingdom come; Thy will be done, On earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil. Amen
instead of working on cross contours/ginger people like i should with proko. i spent my time today making this really cleanbut im tired now, gn!>>7896493its never over!!>>7896497i love the style & posing!! wow! great job!!>>7896524hii! pretty drawings as usual
Why is this board nothing but gooner slop? /h/ is that way.
out of meds again paige?
Someone please tell me I’m gmi or else I’ll kms
>>7896577humans are born to goon, denying that brings all the unnecessary problems and violence in wich we live in.
idk
>>7896576Birdbitch?
>>7896590yea, hi!!also, cause idk if people realized, but i was also doing this stuff last thread>>7895168>>7894573
Pure cοnstruction.
>>7896576stupidly cute, nice work!
More studies. Feeling like I’m making some progress
The hand is a very
>>7896577This. The constant nature of it disgusts me. I understand anatomy and figures and whatnot but goddamn...
>>7896621You talk like if shit here is anything like /d/ or something. Even the /sex/ general in this board is tame for the site's standards.
I am like, really really new to drawing and I'm doing it for fun, but I really want to know what I did with the doodle that made it look actually good compared to the rest of my amateur work
>>7896623I know its my arm but like compared to the rest of the bullshit i draw it's decent
Time to color
Still grinding for the aqw contest.
Study in pencil on a envelope of my kava bartender tonight. She was constantly moving, but I managed to capture her likeness except for the chin, she said. Gave it to her and made her night. Her boyfriend was actually chill as fuck too, which is nice, because It's like bro sorry but your girlfriend is low key the only attractive female in this dump. It's the first night it's been warm here thankfully. Overall, I am pleased with the study. I had a Heyday Kava/kratom shot for 12$. Kratom (an opiate) and Kava (literally horrid tasting, and if you drink it bulk you'll vomit) two substances I vehemently despise the taste of, or at least my gut does. Actually made me shut up and draw for once, go figure. (Kids dont do kava and kratom , I am 33 at this point and have been in 3 car accidents up to this point, do not tread treating pain with opiates, even legal ones like kratom lightly, the addiction potential at a younger 20 something brain could be disastrous) My plans are to convert this sketch into a two color graffiti stencil with some pale green background, grape purple foreground. I already have the spraypaint, and the bristol board, just need to cut it out. Hope everyone has a happy night drawing and god bless :)＼(￣▽￣)/
>>7896478Newfag here. After Keys to Drawing (already did this and currently observational drawing) do I just grind out Hampton and Loomis for figures and heads? Basically trying to get good at drawing characters as fast as possible. If anyone has a good learning path for this I'd love to hear it. I basically have 3 hours a day to draw if that helps.
>>7896693I mean yeah lots of figure drawing is the next step. It’s not gonna be a quick thing though. If you only have 3 hours to draw, focus on doing things that will lead to more progress in a shorter amount of time
>>7896693Some basic construction and perspective first would help. Fun with a Pencil and Perspective Made Easy are good for that. In Hampton's books and videos he tells you that you need to be able to draw 3d forms in perspective first.Then you can get into figure drawing/anatomy with Hampton, Loomis, Steve Huston, Vilppu etc. Try out multiple instructors, videos or books to see what you prefer.Pic related are two of the better learning paths I've seen.
>>7896709Thanks bro. Time to grind out forms and perspective then.
your case of emergency
>>7896709am I suppose to do "A smarter way to improve" or that holy trinity one?
>>7896716Just pick the ones that interest you and draw
What do you do if you start a piece and then in the middle of it realise you bit off more than you can handle? Do you just push through and try to finish it or come back to it some other time after some studies?
>>7896729Sometimes, you can repurpose it for something less ambitious. I did recently a thing where I originally tried to make an animation, decided I didn't feel like finishing it, so I just took one of the keyframes and made a finished piece out of it.
I’m don’t think I have talent
>>7896729This has happened to me a few times, and I mostly just push through it, taking the opportunity to do stop the piece and do studies in the areas that are giving me trouble before returning to it.
Why don't you stop /beg/ging and draw yourself sοme bitches?
>>7896755bc I am the bitch
>>7896760are you a female? only females draw these.
>>7896783Mushrouni Kenshin
>>7896783nice
>>7896527Okay... I'm more or less remembering now.
>>7896769no but I am a bottom
>>7896820bottom? I refuse to trust that you're an male. no sane male want to draw men have sex with each others. I recently learned females are more into yaoi "approximately 82-89% of consumers are females." <---- google said that.so my conclusion is you're an female.
How good are you at detailing hair?>>7896838He's a fag, yοu dense motherfucker
>>7896850she is highly unlikely to be a fag. here is some reasons. she draw faces in generic webtoon cute male style. that make sense females want to draw handsome mens. she seems really like to draw hairly men. " many surveys indicate a strong appreciation for chest hair, with over 70% of women in one survey favoring some hair." <---- google told it.so no doubt this is a female <3
>>7896859Your entire theory blows up when you realize xe has posted xer microdick here several times for attention. He's just a disgusting depressed gay faggot on a cocktail of SSRIs with a poopoopeepee fetish among other things.
>>7896815blog?
>>7896859he is a trooning fag i have seen his face
>>7896874>>7896891stop hurting my feelings!!!!!!!!
>>7896838Yaoi is not gay porn, gay men don't consume yaoi, and shotagurobro isn't drawing yaoi>>7896760Holy kino add me on discord bro
Archangel Michael
>>7896941Aquarius
Again gestures
Still grinding.
>>7896512Sorta butchered it. That leg got away from me, couldnt seem to get it right at all. Fun pose though.
CHALLENGE
>>7896496good reference. Thank you.
busy today and tired so i just colored for fun
>>7896999I like the sigils and colour gradiation
Figures are hard man I can draw faces all day but trying to draw a full body from a photo reference and not anatomical/3D model legitimately gives me anxiety
Please redline. I think. My perspective is off.
>>7896527>>7896815I love your drawings! Shit is so good! But what are you talking about?
What do I fix
>>7897038What do (You) want to fix? What do you think it feels off?
>>7897038I feel like you’re drawing a face by just shoving the features there and hoping they look good. The eyes in particular look really uncanny
>>7897038Hair's not aligned properly.
>>7897038something about her face doesn't feel right, probably depth or something
I drew on a 200x200 pixel 1-bit color canvas the album art for Getting Killed
>>7897038she looks flat
>>7896576hihih thanksies c:love ur bunnie>>7896597lovely painting>>7896999oooo i like dis
>>7897064Don’t see much of a difference. Please move on to the next drawing. There is no point in endlessly polishing this
tried doing the keys to drawing pepper practice exerciseidk how someone could spend 40 minutes doing these two, but maybe I just rush too much>>7896933no sorry I don't use discord>>7896941>>7896942the look really cool, gj>>7896965naisu, it's a tough pose and the legs being cut off (not literally) doesn't help
literally everyone in /beg/ is a better artist than me
>>7897096Than quit whining and draw more. That’s your fault.
>>7897096that's alright, we all been there m8
Some quick and dirty McDuck studies
>>7897096post work so I can shit on it and tell you why and how exactly you suck>inb4 its not the worst ITT
>>7896513did you draw the same feet 50 times, or did you do 50 different ones and then just revisited?
>>7897077I felt the same way, but nah, some of those exercises in keys really overshoot the time. As long as things look better with each exercise when compared to the shoes exercise, you are doing good.
before bath doodletried playing slay the spire 2, didn't really like it, went back to slay the spire 1 and didn't really like it eithermaybe those games just aren't for methere was a dearth of gay art for it though so I made some low quality r34>>7897114that's good then, I think by being generous he was maybe going to allay the insecurities of slower drawers but neglected to consider the neuroticism endemic in the wider artist community lol
>>7897038Done turd polishing, and formatted the file to be smaller
>>7897080Thanks, I'm not at the skill level where I can render like that but I saved the images for future ref.
>>7897125alright i know whats going on with yoursit's mostly about valuesyou really need to focus on shading and highlights more, especially because it's very flat and not in a tits-wayyou need more shading, more shit going on for it to not look so flat
>>7897125>>7897137here's what I mean, if you go with greyscale, you can see how in-depth Elena's art is due to shading and highlights
so i did a little bit of the cross contour ginger people from proko definitely doesnt feel as intuitive as i want it to be yet. so ill practice more. but do any of you have like a good youtube series or art books/resources i should look at to learn perspective the proper way that will make it really intuitive?
>>7897145fug yeahLt. Peter Han might have some stuff about perspectivehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Uw9-nlMdDI
>>7897137Thanks for the advice, question, does this drawing of mine also look flat or is it any better in regards to that?
>>7897145I highly recommend the perspective drawing handbook
>>7897147tnx!>>7897162ill look into that. also, ive seen how to draw by scott robertson before, how is that? is it too complicated? the drawing tools it shows starting off looks a little more complicated for intuitive drawing. (like templates, sweeps, spacing divider, etc)
>>7897161yeah, it's a bit flat but it's far better howeverthere's not much going on for shading, it's a bit too subtle on spots like under the jaw, the cleavage and the thighsif you greyscale the image, you can see that theres barely any shading going on for example, Wokada's art has pretty good values with its shading being dark, and so on
>>7897161>>7897166another example
Studies
Abandoned, will fix at a later date.
>>7896976
>>7897169>>7897170Please learn different methods of drawing . I feel that you draw everything the same way because it’s comfortable for you
>>7897014>But what are you talking about?I'm around 5 months studing hands and forgetting about them consecutively because of me getting overtired from my job. So it all feels very RNGish.>>7896888I have none yet.
>>7897207>getting overtired from my jobExcuses. Other anons like senseifag and torulen are wageslaves and also great artists.
>>7897181Bro if you're gonna give him advice at least be less vague. What's holding him back and what could he do to correct it?
>>7897211Yeah. I'm just coping through the fact my own irresponsibilites are causing me irreversible issues and that maybe I should have alzheimer in future and now I feel sad but yeah. I just want to feel like I can draw a hand or two and get over it but I'm always zeroing...
How the fuck are you meant to paint landscapes, man.
>>7897212I wasn’t being vague. Like I said, they need to learn different methods of drawing. I think that they need to study from other artists and learn different approaches because as of now, like I said, everything looks very similar. Forearm muscles drawn with the same triangular shapes, breasts look the same, elbow bone always drawn similarly- it’s a style, I understand that. However, a style needs more variety and movement in order to favor the artist. I think that the overall style is nice but it’s being held back by the repetitive decision making. I think that they should study some masters, other artists, hell even random drawings on Pinterest- literally things that make them more uncomfortable and are new. THEN take what you’ve learned from those artists and drawings and then apply them to your style in a way that makes it more interesting and makes every drawing more unique. There’s a lot of potential but they’ve been posting similar pages of studies that take the same approach each and every time. I want what’s best for them I just want them to be doing more to give their art more variety and more of a unique flair
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqN1vLPX-no
>>7897224+ draw from life more. Drawing from life teaches you how to truly draw organically
>>7897223All hail Remina-chan
>>7897224pretty gud advice ngl>>7897223i dont know but that looks sick
Can you even call this drawing?
>>7897241I can't imagine this vastly improving anyone's workflow. Seems like bells and whistles for nodraws purchasing software οn behalf of others.
>>7897248Supposedly it is a really big deal that Procreate artists have been using for years.
I know this is 3D but /3/ rarely if ever gives commentary on facial proportions, I need to know why these faces look wrong. I think the left top most face looks like fetal alcohol snydrome, but I dont know how to fix it
Offering a snek sketch. hope u like it. I didn't spend as much time on accuracy as I'm trying to find the right balance of time to spend drawing. 6 hour weekend grinds while barely doodling the rest of the week seems like a good way to burn out. Anons who mog me: what is your typical mix of rough sketching, refined sketching and 3+ hour 'projects'? >>7897254i draw in procreate and never use it (same with the hold for straight line). Feels like cheating myself for someone so new.
>>7897276fug yeah good shitthe 'mid-body' does feel a bit too static/straight, but the rest is sweet as fug
Where are Toru and Doll?
>>7897267why does she have a pig nose
>>7897299I wanted to make a pig kemono
gesture slop
>>7897302figure study slop
>>7897302>>7897305are they even useful? honestly seems like a timesinker
>>7897308what do you suggest?
>>7897330draw what you love most and figure out any issues you have by studying the parts you're weak at i'd say
>>7897112latter: revistedthere no way i could muster the willpower to do the same drawing 50 times lmao>ignore the cringe writing please god its so embarrassing, but im a writer first, artist (lmao) second
>>7897350>>7897112>>7896513for reference, these were my first couple of attemptsthe more i drew feet the more details i saw and so the more accurate i was able to be
>>7897308I did thousands of Gesture / Figure Drawings and didn't improve in the slightest even though they are marketed towards beginners. It depends how you define beginner though.Gesture / Figure Drawing might be useful for people who have already been drawing their whole life and are looking for a way to improve their already pretty decent or good art. You could call this a "beginner" because they've never had any formal training previously but this is completely different from, say, an adult first learning how to draw.For the latter, Gesture / Figure Drawing aren't helpful because you don't yet have the ability to copy like the former does. Thus, the whole time you're not only struggling to learn the concepts but also struggling with the proportions of everything as well. You just end up with badly proportions drawings while not properly understanding the purpose of all of it.Of course, I can't really give you advice on what REALLY works as I haven't yet figured it out. I can make a best guess but I still need to figure it out myself. However, I can tell you what doesn't work so you don't have to waste hundreds of hours like me. That's Gesture, Figure Drawing, Anatomy, Portraiture, Perspective, and Form. I know this sounds fantastical because all the good artists say you have to have these fundamentals but even after hundreds of hours and thousands of drawings in each of the categories, I simply did not improve. The only time I see actual improvement is when I isolate something very specific I want to draw and just do it over and over again. That's why my feet drawings saw improvement. Granted, all I'm really learning is how to see more clearly and measure proportions correctly. That's basically what I notice artists doing all the time.I could be completely wrong but at the same time, after years of taking other people's advice and not improving, I've just decided to figure it out on my own. Maybe this helps you, maybe not.
>>7897356>I've just decided to figure it out on my own. Maybe this helps you, maybe not.yeah, I'm extremely new, I'm about to get my 24'' screen maybe tomorrow, and I'm super well aware how true this stuff is. The whole study is COOL, and maybe earns you a few likes and such, but it's nothing more than just bragging rights if you're doing like 50 of these. From my time on pixel art, I simply learnt a lot as a fucking tard with 0 art knowledge by learning through watching people, committing errors on projects that I love working on and searching thru on how to fix them. Landscapes, monsters, and so on. Still, I do think that such things like drawing boxes, circles and lines is just completely unnecessary and unfortunately a huge timesinker. Not because you don't really learn anything, but due to a likelihood to burning out. You're doing something that you may not like and forcing yourself to it.
I CAN'T FUCKING CAPTURE ANY PART OF THIS CHARACTER THE WAY I WANT HIM TO LOOK AND I'M LOSING MY FUCKING MINDTHIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A FUCKING SILLY ASS DOODLE BUT I'M GETTING CAUGHT UP ON EVERY GOD DAMN ASPECT OF THIS MOTHERFUCKER
>>7897356If you don't understand why gesture needed then you should not learn gesture
>>7897358>Still, I do think that such things like drawing boxes, circles and lines is just completely unnecessary and unfortunately a huge timesinker.This is the best thing you could have figured out as a beginner. I got stuck grinding straight lines because good artists like Peter Han said it's necessary but I CONSTANTLY see artists who draw as good as I want to draw and they can't draw boxes or straight lines for shit. Made me realize MOST artists DO NOT know how to teach absolute beginners which is why I struggled so much following their advice.For instance, pic related is a realization that took me years to find out which was later confirmed by Glenn Vilppu himself.>Do not copy the model.Yet, I made a thread years ago explaining the concept of NOT copying the model exactly (but still using life as reference) and it was a huge flame war where people ended up proving me right in their attempt to prove me wrong. Of course, everything I said was bad and wrong because I didn't post my work even though I literally quoted Glenn Vilppu.>>7897381This sounds nice but how is a beginner supposed to know this without being told so?Beginners are always told a hundred different things and one of those is to learn "gesture." Another is to "Draw a Box." Another is to learn "form." Another is to learn "perspective."Drawing is so incredibly difficult to learn, not because it's especially difficult compared to other skills, but because there is no consensus for what fundamentals beginners should be learning. This is because the VAST MAJORITY of artists started as children so they completely skip over the necessary fundamentals. This is a problem you don't see with musical instruments, a foreign language, or even writing. It seems like a problem unique with drawing where people can't figure out what the fuck to tell beginners to help them improve.Of course, /ic/ artists will never admit this. They never like to admit they don't understand something about drawing.
>>7897411ref used
>>7897411my working understanding of it is that trying to convey how to depict forms with lines by using words to describe it is also very difficult. A person can be told things like>there are no lines in real life>don't copy the reference exactly>avoid symbol drawingbut it's ultimately something has to be learned first hand. I saw some video a while back about drawing some old brick building, how beginners will put a lot of lines and boxes and then it looks terrible, while more experienced artists can draw a lot less while also better conveying the forms... I'm sure I'm describing it badly and I'm not to that point myself.
>cat girl supremacy>>7897356>>7897411>>7897421Everyone just needs to draw more. But Its kinda a paradox where if your shit at it your not very inclined to draw a lot. Yet once your better at drawing and conveying your ideas It's a lot more fun. Honestly most people are shit at drawing cause they don't care enough. Some people put so many "useless hours" in and get nothing in return. But I understand that some begs just don't know how to properly use their time to improve at first.>>7897305>>7897305good stuff, make your lines more confident with less strokes with stronger shapes. For gestures use c and s lines with a repeating motion Instead of giving everything a bubble wrap look..
>>7897411i didn't get far with vilppu myself, but that one quote you mentioned>we don't copy, we analyzehas stuck with me a lot
>>7896478Looking good, right guys?
>>7897480red left leg looks dislocated and perspective on the pose seems off
Aiza!
>>7897411when you're low IQ, all advice is bad for you because you misinterpret it.
>>7897504This is just an excuse to deflect criticism for being bad at teaching.If a student doesn't understand something, you reiterate. You put into different words. All of /beg/ can't be low IQ. That's like saying all women reject you because women are the problem.The job of a teacher is to make sure the student understands.Blaming the student is a common deflection tactic I see used all the time (outside of drawing too) to avoid admitting that they simply do not understand the subject well enough to teach it.Just because you can do something well doesn't mean you can teach it just as well. Both are very different skills.If a student misinterprets "all advice," the problem is the person giving the advice, not the student>>7897441>Everyone just needs to draw more.Half-truth.You need to draw more but the kind of drawing matters.If you were like me and tried learning Gesture / Figure Drawing as a beginner when I couldn't even get my proportion right, you'll waste thousands of drawings getting nowhere.That's why advice needs to be more nuanced. It can't be more nuanced if artists don't understand how to improve at drawing at a fundamental level. It's not necessarily because everyone needs a very specific and unique path.>Everyone needs to learn how to copy accurately.That, to me, seems the most accurate.Most artists I have followed can't draw a box for shit, a straight line for shit, or wrap contour lines around cylinders.However, EACH and EVERY one of those artists can copy something very accurately. That's the fundamental skill above all else.In addition, they didn't draw from life. They copied other artists. They learned how to stylize. Only AFTER that previous step did they start to "draw from life" and at that point their drawings weren't even that bad. I see this a lot when people explain what they drew as children.>>7897421Half-truth, I think.For instance, with symbol drawing, that can be explicitly shown. Doesn't have to be learned.
>>7897241Shit like this is why I only use a pencil and paper. Such a lame shortcut.
>>7897510Most teachers suck, that's true. Teaching drawing to all kinds of different people is 100 times harder than learning it. But some students have special needs, they need a specially trained teacher otherwise they just slow the rest of the class down. We don't dumb our standards down just because 1% of /beg/ can't keep up.
>>7897484I spent 2 days trying to get the perspective right and it is still wrongScrew it, hope that they don't notice
>>7897512The good thing is that /beg/ isn’t a classroom and we can absolutely slow down to make sure everyone catches up. That’s the neat thing about image boards compared to a traditional classroom.However, I do notice the same mistakes over and over again. Sure, part of it could be their refusal to take any advice seriously but I want to make sure that, at the very least, the instruction given cannot be to blame. Currently, 90% of the board still thinks “just draw” and “Loomis” is proper advice to a beginner who doesn’t know what the fuck they are doing. Sure, some do it ironically or just to troll but a lot of artists genuinely believe those two things will somehow do anything but burn a beginner out. You can’t draw enough blooks to get good at drawing not to mention beginners don’t want to fucking draw blooks. They want to draw big fucken anime titties.The point I’m trying to make there is that there actually is good advice beginners can follow that’s not always mentioned on here and thats>draw what you like, not what you think you have to drawYou’ll improve significantly faster that way than grinding any blooks ever could.
>>7897503sex
lol it’s not like you crabs have any intent to teach
Your observation skills suck more than you think.Grid copies of simple objects or animals is the most basic form to train this. Copy bridgman later on as a next step. Not "read" bridgman, literally just copy the drawings. Would recommend to gradually increase the gridsize up towards a 2x2 or 2x3 to make the individual squares more challenging. Even later on you can get away with just marking things like "top of the head, bottom of the heel, bottom of the crotch,..."
>>7897517This complain is useless.
>>7897517No that’s how people stagnate like Pawell.
reference
>>7897546I'll second this.Grid Drawings are like "Training Wheels" for artists. It lets you get to a final good result without grinding 100 bad, soul-crushing copies first. And observation is the number 1 skill that /ic/ tries to hide from beginners but try to allude to it to pretend like that's what they meant the whole time with "just draw" or "muh Loomis." If you can't accurately measure proportions, you'll waste your time like I did with my thousands of drawings.However, I did find Grid Drawings to be a bit dull as well but maybe that's just the subject matter. Certainly beats doing the drawing itself without a grid and being guaranteed a bad result though.I'm attaching a link to my Grid Drawings archive that contain references and the side-by-side grid I used so you can put any image next to it.https://mega.nz/file/R8plUQLC#2fUdcZW7yke4zoyhBtXqrB9rgg3jgce574vIsElMM70
>>7897546>>7897564I did try a method I coined AARR (Attempt, Adjust, Redo, Re-analyze) or the Iterative Feedback Refinement Method while doing Grid Drawings but I honestly didn't see it yield much positive results than just doing the whole drawing first. The AARR method is when you do a small portion of a drawing and then compare it to the original behind it. Then you hide the original and attempt it again.Sounds good on paper but it didn't seem to yield any practical results.
>>7897560Stagnation is preferred over burnout but that's not the point.The idea of drawing what you like isn't an end-all-be-all point, it's just one of many.When a beginner is trying to learn how to draw, he should focus first on what he wants to draw. After he enjoys the process, then he can actually spend time learning how to draw.I did this backwards and ended up associating drawing with hard work whereas artists who drew as children associate drawing with play. Guess which one is going to spend more time drawing in general.The good thing that came out of it though is that I can hyper analyze ever single process and explain exactly why or how to do something which is something 99% of artists can do--hence, why the best they can do is say "Loomis" or "just draw" or only critique intermediate-level artwork. Those don't require an autistic understand of the process.I'll give an example.The best way to get used to your drawing tablet with the minimum amount of resistance is tracing. However, the mistake most artists will make is zooming in to make sure each individual line is accurately drawn. This is inefficient. The most efficient way is to trace the entire drawing while completely zoomed out. This will force you to hit lines in specific, uncomfortable angles compared to zooming in and staying within your comfort zone. A typical artist wouldn't be able to explain any of that to you. They may say that tracing is a good way to get used to your tablet with the least amount of friction but they won't be able to explain what the best way to trace is to be the most efficient.That's the thing I notice about /ic/. Besides not being able to take criticism of their advice, like this anon >>7897555, they cannot explain, in detail, why you should do certain things. This is why I always say that teaching is a separate skill from drawing. There are A LOT of good artists out there but a VERY, VERY TINY amount of good art teachers. They certainly don't exist on /ic/
>>7897564I used to assume that copying stuff is just something everyone has tried to do, and Loomis assumed that too. It may be some generational thing, I guess in the current day people just don't draw, like everyone used to.You open some old book written in the 19th century and you have scenes where these random characters just sit down and start to draw. Or they sing and play instruments or whatever. It was just something people did to pass time.The whole internet should be detonated.
>>7897517>don't just draw>draw what you like, not what you think you have to draw, in other words, just drawhmmm. btw how do you think a lot of artists got good as kids? did they just draw or have some enlightened teacher such as yourself teaching them. i think they just draw'd
>>7897574all the examples you used I've seen explained here multiple time before, stop generalizing so much
>>7897575I'm approaching it from the perspective of an adult artist who never drew as a child.The problem with most art instruction is that it already assumes that previous "copying stuff", you mentioned, as a given. Which is why books like Loomis don't actually work for beginners. Experienced artists swear by it and can't understand why beginners are unable to grasp something as simple as FWAP but that's because they're assuming that this person already has copying experience. Without that copying experience, you're essentially starting from zero, and teaching these people how to draw is extremely difficult. My goal in drawing is to be able to teach these people. It's a personal project to learn drawing to it's minute detail so that beginners no longer have any excuse as to why they are not improving.
>>7897580>in other words, just drawYes, it's called nuance, which is what that is."Just draw" doesn't mean anything to a beginner so continuing to say this or "Loomis" is just bad faith at this point. A beginner is a beginner. How would they know "just draw" entails all these very specific details? That's something that needs to be pointed it out.It's as if you told me you wanted to learn guitar but instead of teaching you scales/chords, I just told you, "just play guitar, bro." It means nothing to a beginner because they're a BEGINNER. They're not supposed to know anything.>how do you think a lot of artists got good as kidsCopying other artists and enjoying the process, above all.This is something largely ignored by /ic/ in favor of fundamentals that beginners will not benefit from such as Gesture, Anatomy, Perspective, etc.Time and time again I see artists online who are really good at drawing but can't draw a fucking box. If "Draw a Box" was so useful, how come these people who can't draw a good box draw well enough to mog /ic/?How come after a thousand boxes I can't draw the big titty anime girls I want to draw?It's because I'm wasting my time drawing boxes instead of fucking tits. Yes, boxes will make my tits look more 3D but if the tits I draw suck, no amount of cube drawings will make them look good. No amount of straight-line exercises will make them look good. And no amount of circles will fix your shitty observation skills. This is something I had to painfully learn after thousands of drawings that all wasted my time. Literally reams of fucking "exercises" for fucking nothing. They have their place but they're not for beginners. Beginners should be focusing on observation above all. Fuck all the fundamentals. Learn to copy first and don't waste thousands of hours like I have.Of course, it's a little more nuanced than that but this is as much as I can fit into a single reply.
>>7897582>they're assuming that this person already has copying experienceHoly fuck I thought I was retarded when I first started and I couldn't figure out loomis. Thanks for the confidence booster.
>>7897590>Copying other artists and enjoying the process, above all.yes so why do you think that the /ic/ "just draw" means doing boxes or some shit instead of meaning to go draw what you want? just draw runs counter to a structured autist draw a box approach, you go draw and see what works. and this does work with anything, even playing guitar i'd assume. you do an action, see whether it matches what you want and adjust accordingly. the brain is literally built for this and that is why it's redundant to try and teach someone that doesn't do the prerequisite of learning to draw which is literally just fucking drawing. now, there are cases where a person has faulty hardware such as pawell but it doesn't mean the learning methods of normal people are wrong. i agree that observation is king for beginners and i also share a similar experience with beg traps like draw a box but honestly if i had applied just draw and gone through it i would have improved all the same. there is a lot of talk about draw a box but i've pretty much never seen anyone get further than the box challenge lol
>>7897574>They certainly don't exist on /ic/As I understand it, the critiquers here saw the movie Whiplash (2014) and took from it that being an asshole = being a good teacher.
>>7897596>you go draw and see what worksNo.What people will end up doing isn't copying other artists, it's doodling from imagination and then wondering why they can't improve. THAT is what they will assume "just draw" means. They see other artists draw off the cuff and think that they need to just grind imagination drawing or some shit and after months of making literally zero progress they realize that's not what it means. Since no one explains anything (because they are incapable of doing so), they try to learn from tutorials.They will go online and see a "How to Draw an Eye Tutorial" but that's just a demonstration. There is no tutorial. So they learn nothing. Then they fall for the Mark Crilley meme because maybe I should do Chibi first because its simpler and that will transition me to drawing anime. But that doesn't work. So let me see some Proko then. Oh, the BEAN METHOD. Let me grind BEANS all day!! Wait, why am I not good after 100 beans drawings? I have to do 1,000 bean drawings??? What? Maybe there's a less soulcrushing way, there's no way actual good artists put themselves through this torture. Then they learn about Gesture / Figure Drawing and grind that but after a ream of printer paper wasted they learned FUCKING NOTHING. They try portraiture but because portraits are fucking boring they try something else. Etc. Etc. Etc.>this does work with anything, even playing guitar i'd assumeNo, it doesn't work with guitar AT ALL.I'm not trying to be an asshole or anything but I can tell you haven't deliberately learned many skills outside of school because you would know this isn't how it works. Every skill requires SOME instruction and SOME knowledge to get started.For instance, if I wanted to learn BLENDER, I CAN just pull it up and figure it out myself but that would be stupid and highly inefficient. What people do instead is watch a few tutorials, learn the basics, and THEN they "just sculpt." They don't do it with zero knowledge.
>>7897590>NOO AHHH YOU ALL WRONG "JUST DRAW" DONT WORRRKK YOU GUYS HIDING THE TRUTH FROM ME AHH
>>7897596>observation is king for beginnersYes, and my whole point is to say EXACTLY THAT while explaining why and how to properly learn observation. "Just draw" is simply too vague and means absolutely nothing. Not to mention it's always a hand-wavy advice given with no explanation. It's lazy and ignorant and assumes too much that shouldn't be assumed.>but i've pretty much never seen anyone get further than the box challenge lolThat's because it's fucking useless and doesn't work.Most people on here just want to draw fucking anime. It's like most people studying Japanese just want to watch Anime w/o subs, just like I did. But dumbfucks on Reddit want you to fall into traps like Remembering the Kanji by Heisig WHICH IS FUCKING USELESS and they're fucking arguing with me telling me that I'm wrong and downvoting the fuck out of my comments. BITCH, YOU DON'T LEARN KANJI LIKE THAT. ARE YOU STUPID? I realized most of these communities where people go to try to learn things have the most absolute god-awful advice. The stickys are all fucking traps, the resources are all traps, and everyone secretly hopes you fail. Maybe this is a waste of time but if at least a few Anons avoid the fucking bullshit I had to deal with just barely make improvement after almost 6-8 years, that's honestly worth it.>>7897612>NOOOOOOO YOU CANT JUST HAVE NUANCE IN YOUR ADVINCE!! YOU HAVE TO BE VAGUE SO NO ONE IMPROVES!!!!
>>7897609>What people do instead is watch a few tutorials, learn the basics, and THEN they "just sculpt." They don't do it with zero knowledge.what they actually do is first downloading the blender for the first time and messing around with the program a lot.
>>7897618me on the left.
>>7897621>what they actually do is first downloading the blender for the first time and messing around with the program a lot.No, this is plainly false. The vast majority of people do not use any software without first looking up a tutorial/manual on how it works. If there are people who do what you are saying, they are in the vast minority.Again, this works for every skill. I used to make music and I still needed a tutorial on how to use FL Studio. After like 2-3 videos I kind of had what I needed figured out and started messing around after that. Using a DAW is significantly easier than learning how to draw though so 2-3 quick videos isn't going to cut it for most people.>>7897618nice legs!
>>7897623good luck searching a beginner tutorial in youtube or else.
>>7897625i mean in blender
morning bath studywas nice
HELP MEE I CAN'T SHADE HAIRR ALL LOOK SHITTY FLATTY HELPMEEE IN EEED A TUTORIALL OR GUIDE OR WHAT EVER SOMETHING SOMEONE DO INTERESTING HAIR SHADINGGG
>>7897637Hair is one of those things where less is more. You don't need to overcomplicate the shading, in fact you can get away with just using flats and a highlight.I personally just use two tone flats and one tone highlight when coloring hair.
>>7897618holy fucking sovl
>>7897618Anon with his ASMR Vtuber girlfriendhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OzIDQybEFY
https://x.com/mr_guy_man_t>>7897096i like the picture of the dog
>>7897618Fire as fuck
>>7896576patriot>>7897038vampire>>7897061a scared man>>7897267eugenecist>>7897441next level
>>7897675
>>7897675do they fuck?
>>7897675he's really hot, reminds me of Hugh Jackman
Critique please. Rate my figs.https://files.catbox.moe/wwbpx9.jpg
>>7897687>he doesn't know how to post an image on an imageboardSAD!
>>7897689>imageboard>block a whole fucking ip range from posting imagesCool "image"board, faggot.That on top of the retarded time-consuming captchas. This site is so fucking shit, the only reason to be here is that it has more people both from its fame and its antiquity. There are much better imageboard alternatives.
>>7897692how stupid are you that the captcha are time consuming
>>7897693The retard is you who think the captchas are IQ tests and depend on intelligence. Compare the previous captcha with the newer ones.Before:>align the letters with the slide>type it outAfter:>compare 3-5 different sets of picture to find which one has a different element>compare 3-5 different sets of pictures to find the one where all arrows point to the next button>compare which set out of 3-5 has a particular element in a pool of similar elements>repeat 3 to 4 timesWhich one is more time-consuming, you absolute fag? Being smart won't make solving them faster. Being dumb won't stop you. The only thing it does is waste your time so that only retards who like wasting time and paid shills will bother to post.
>>7897694Not to mention that you have to solve the captcha EVERY TIME you post. EVERY POST you have to do this shit.Compare that to imageboards like 8c h a n for example, where you only have to solve the captcha once and then you can post all you want.
>>7897411can you explain why it’s wrong to copy the model? is the trick to sense the pose and communicate more what you feel than what you see?
>>7897694the comparison takes much less time than the previous captcha though, overall it's much faster than scrubbing through trying to find the thing to type out, then having to type it and all thatthe pattern matching is much quicker>>7897695skill issue, I get verification not needed a lot
>>7897061Careful with this direction or you might create a face that isn't completely repulsive
>>7897241With the 3d models, instant perspective grids, ai features and this bullshit we are getting so close to the ignorant normie's idea of how digital art is made.
>>7897334What if he's weak at gesture, mr clown?
>>7897698>Our system thinks your post is spam. Please reformat and try again.Ohh fuck off.
>>7897411>This is the best thing you could have figured out as a beginner. I got stuck grinding straight lines because good artists like Peter Han said it's necessary but I CONSTANTLY see artists who draw as good as I want to draw and they can't draw boxes or straight lines for shit. Made me realize MOST artists DO NOT know how to teach absolute beginners which is why I struggled so much following their advice.Yeah, let's not mention the people that literally tell you that as a beginner you shouldn't use references. Fucking retards. I had a few tell me this before, ''do not use references'' and when I used references, my beginner art turned out to be ten times better and more sensical. For some reason, people give the worst advice to beginners, from 'PLEASE DRAW 50 BOXES IN ONE SITTING' to just not using references at all. Hell, even tracing is fine if you just get hard-stuck and get to learn a thing or two from it.One thing for sure is that the Loomis method for head drawing is fucking impeccable to me.
>>7897698You disingenuous fuck, how can doing a captcha-challenge 3 or 4 times be faster than doing a single one? How slow do you type that typing 4-5 letters feels like a chore? "Scrubbing through", as if it was that hard.You're either a retard or one of the paid shills I spoke of. It's weird how defensive you are on this when most 4chan users don't like the new captchas. You constantly see people complaining about it."Pattern matching". Is that why you think yourself smart for wasting time with these retarded captchas? Kek.
>>7897708It's not as simple as do or do not use reference. I don't you can make a rule of that 100% always applies.Referencing is totally fine for production art. There's no question of that. Nearly all the pros do that.But... sometimes you end up with better looking art if you don't use reference or only subtly use it. Assuming you're skilled enough...Then studying is an entirely different thing. You will learn TONS by trying to construct things from imagination, even if you fail.But then, studying from reference is also legitimate, and will teach you things construction and imagination based drawing won't.When you study from reference you should try to get as close to 1:1 accurate as possible, as this makes the end result easier to judge.In contrast, when referencing for production (or "real work") you often want to hide the fact you used reference, and change things up.But pithy one-liners presented as universal truths are easier to type and easier to digest than all of this nuance.
>>7897697>can you explain why it’s wrong to copy the model?I've attached a page from Robert Beverly Hale's "Drawing Lessons from the Great Masters." It explains one of the downfalls of copying exactly what you see.Artists rarely ever copy the model. They interpret it. Think of it like a language. When you translate something from Japanese to English, you don't translate the words EXACTLY. Why? Because it sounds off. It doesn't sound right. Even though it's technically CORRECT, it still comes across as bad because the medium (the English Language) abides by different rules than Japanese.The same is true for drawing. Real life abides by different rules than art. Replicating it exactly will only lead to frustration. You can see how in the image on the reply you responded to, copying the model exactly gave a strange, uncanny look even though I literally copied what I see. But it wasn't until after I INTERPRETED what I saw (make stylistic choices as to what to remove/add/manipulate) did it come out looking decent. Now, how do you learn what you SHOULD draw?COPY OTHER ARTISTS.When you copy other artists, you learn how they draw different features of the face. You practice over and over trying to get their rendition down and THEN you move onto life to practice different orientations, the whole time using reference to artist's work for assistance.You certainly can just bruteforce your way through and figure it out on your own by why reinvent the wheel when other artists have already done that hard work for you?
How do I get away with making the shadows darker without shitting everything up?
>>7897715>When you study from reference you should try to get as close to 1:1 accurate as possible, as this makes the end result easier to judge.I speak from fuck-ass experience and skill, but I use references with a lot of images in them, not just one to make a 1:1 accurate work. I use PureRef for them and it's pretty damn cool, especially because you get plenty of ideas and do your own take on them.
>>7897723Yes and that's good but studying a reference is a different thing.
doodling some OC
>>7897708>For some reason, people give the worst advice to beginnersIt's primarily done to protect their ego. They don't like the idea that there is something they don't understand about a medium in which they spent their whole life in. That's why vehemently push the idea that everyone on /beg/ is just low-iq or has a mental disability. They simply can't accept the fact that their advice just sucks. Most of them stopped giving advice and they actually admit to me that they don't even come on here to give critique anymore--you know, on the critique board...I use Tracing primarily to learn a drawing tablet or software but I haven't personally found any practical use outside of that. I find that I end up using Tracing as a crutch if I try to use it while studying so I avoid it as much as possible. It is useful though if you're struggling getting a specific line down and you want to feel how it's like to draw a particular line. Other than that, I personally can't think of any practical uses.
>>7897726>TracingOh yeah that's another bit of nuance... copying a reference and trying to get as close to 1:1 is only effective as a form of study if you're not literally tracing it.Tracing should normally be avoided but sometimes people conflate that with "never use reference never ever"I think studying from live models is often recommended because that eliminates the tracing vs drawing by sight confusion.
>>7897710it's fastjust look at the things and you have the answer. mucho rapido
I tried to draw bigger, I usually only take up some of the sketchbook page, I like how this one turned out
What are your goals as an artist? I think having specific things you're working towards beyond "getting good at drawing" is a good idea
>>7897754I just wanted you to stop calling me a stagnated permaprebeg. Sadly nothing was ever good enough for you. Now I’m dead.
>>7897546>>7897564Does copying a few hundred drawings with a grid really improve your accuracy when you're drawing without one? Do you just unlock the ability to lay grids over everything in your mind, like you unlock the ability to imagine boxes over everything if you grind them long enough? My accuracy is ass a lot of times, but I don't really wanna waste a few hundred hours grinding grid copies if my accuracy still ends staying shit once I stop using it.
>>7897762grid method virgins
>>7897762You can gradually reduce the number of squares in the grids you use, to get closer to simply drawing without a grid. I mean, the smallest possible square grid is 2x2, so basically just two lines, horizontal and vertical crossing over the image meeting in the midpoint.This *should* allow you to ease yourself into not needing grids, or so the theory goes, this is not how I learned ever but let me know how it goes.
some random drawings>>7897441Amazing>>7897239March
>>7897719Have confidence and darken the SHIT out of them. I really like the light that you've established, but that means the shadows are gonna be DARK. particularly where the back building meets the ground, by the robots crotch, and in the sheds interior.You will get away with it. Try it and see.
>>7897771funky style
>>7897239yess :3>>7897675indeed>>7897704gonna rectify that in the picture after this one
>>7897618sovl <3>>7897771yesss, cool faces>>7897704here, gotta uphold my reputation <3
>>7896478Made this painting
>>7897783i pay homage 2 the monkes
>>7897787i love it <3his tit looks very beautiful
>>7897786Pretty spooky!
>>7897762>>7897764>>7897766theoretically but they were pretty soul crushing imoif you're an absolute beginner sure but if you're just a regular beginner, i think just single cross should be your only training wheels until you eventually get rid of it
>>7897794>>7897766>>7897764>>7897762after doing about 15 grid drawings and unable to bear it, i made up an exercise called ZOOM ZOOM where i zoomed up really close to an image and copied thati had more fun doing those than grid drawings
>>7897796>borders provide flat, straight lines where the other lines meet>not intimidated by the whole drawingThat's kinda smart.
>>7897788ty yes praise god smoke crackrocks and love oneanother yeeeeeaawwww
when do you guys draw humans what part do you draw first? torso? head? nose? eye? legs? hands? what part and why?
>>7897821sometimes the eyes or mouth draw first desu but also sometimes just throw those shoulder/hip angles lines down for that contraposta thing or bubble in some potato sack torso or ribcage, hip bone. thats how i saw some pros doing it.
>>7897821i was meant say what do you draw first when drawing humans
before bath drawings again>>7897825joker looks like he already has AIDS, rip
>>7897834WHY ARE YOU ALWAYS BATHING?WHY DO YOU DRAW IN THE BATHROOM?You're the cleanest anon here, jesus christ.
>>7897836mogs me
>>7897834ya jokeyboi a sicko. thoughts n prayers etc.that middle torsos is p gud. decent muscularity anatomically etc. dying of cock starvation relatable n so on n so forth
>>7897836idk I maybe like 1-2 times per day someone's up to like 4I like really hot baths, it's like self harm but without all the fuss from other people, plus it helps me feel less defiled sometimes if I'm feeling that wayit also offers a consistent space to practice, with enough of a limit on time to make sure I don't dilly dally, but not so much that I can't get something productive done. Also, tying drawing something to an activity I do daily ensures the momentum of habitual practice keeps me drawing at least a little bit every day
>>7897836because he smells like blood and vomit all the time
>>7897695>>7897694SAAR PLS DO THE NEEDFUL CAPTCHA
>>7897821eyebrows>>7897805skibidi yeehaaw>>7897836honestly good for him, he will never be smelly>>7897851how rich are you
How do you even mess up a ref this badly.
>>7897871>how rich are younot rich
>>7897877dude from cancerslug makes a gud wolverine ref. keep going!
Been obsessed with drawing anatomy lately. Ribcage are really hard.
>>7897241>csp updates >open drawing>use eraser tool on a line>smart shape erroneously activates completely by itself and messes up my eraseWow, great update. How do I turn this stupid shit off?
I feel sad.
>>7897905SHUT UP
>>7897903Preferences > Tools > Scroll to the bottom. I'm genuinely unsure where I would ever use this feature considering how it fucks up my control over lines
How far along is too far along to make a correction is this different for trad vs digital
>>7897356>>7897718rare sane person to be found in this generalit's imprtant to highlight, though, that copying an artist won't make you draw like that artist. it's harder with digital, too, since a beginner wouldn't know the brushes, the layer setup, the workflow of a person he's copying>>7897441if you can't give any advice besides 'just draw', don't even bother
>>7897356>>7897910PYW
>>7897907It's probably the type of tool that you either use all the time or never. Since it's baked into CSP now as a default setting I guess newer artists will be more likely to get used to using it.
>>7896478
>>7897915why would that matter. you didn't attach any drawings to your post either
have donut
Teach me how to draw anime girl faces from any angle RIGHT FUCKING NOW.
>>7897908It depends a bit on what kind of trad you're talking about. An oil painting in canvas is surprisingly forgiving, you can make corrections rather far into the process if you're willing to properly match colors, shading, and commit to a few extra layers, not to mention you can also glaze a little to correct the colors, although glazing works better when you want to darken a color rather than lighten it. An ink drawing on paper is a pain in the fucking ass to correct, and you're better off setting up a good pencil sketch that you're happy with.Digital is much more forgiving, especially if you're mindful of your layers.
>>7897929Either become spiritually japanese or become gay.
why do the hips + thighs look off
>>7897935I can't tell if you decided to embrace Japan's ingrained suicidal ideation or the homosexuals penchant for self-destruction, so you are probably on the right track to become a successful mangaka.
>>7897928>>7897932Saw this on /fit/.
>>7897938eyy thx
I HATE colorsAND eyesand twinks
Progr#ss update to poorer
>>7897938>>7897941yep it’s a thing, i have this, on me a little sharper following the outward jut of the hip bones but distributed similarly to the first diagram.there should definitely be a lot of variations around, but i don’t really see other people’s unclothed hips so, um.unsure if it’s a thing for guys, too.
>>7897949https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViXSzU8UjbI
>>7896735You'rm right about that.
this general is a shell of what it was a year ago. the hack really did a number on this site. don't even recognize anyone anymore. maybe that's a good thing, there were some serious faggots here before.I have hit another plateau, though for once it's not as much a lack of skill as it is a lack of ideas. at least I tell myself that. been going hard on getting better at working from imagination, as well as trying to up the volume of drawing per day. working on traditional and digital at once, which is probably a bad idea but whatever. I will spare you the stupid number of boxes I have drawn
>>7896735Why are racist chuds always so talentless?
First attempt at pixel art. Something about it doesn't feel right. Tips?
Sketch
>>7897972I don’t think that worked right tut I can’t try again as you can see it’s coming along nicely though.
>>7897938Hip dips can look extremely hot if done right
I CANT FUCKING DRAW. I AM DOOMED TO BE FUCKING PERMABEG.
>>7897978I got used to being a permaprebeg after a couple of years. >>7896735
>>7896478This anatomy shit is like crack to me
>>7897871Why is his head so small hahaha holy shit
>>7897679How big is his doggy dick? Awooo! ;-)
i need feedback, (i know i need to refine the lineart already)
>>7897754>What are your goals as an artist?Honestly, the biggest goal or dream for me, would be to either work as an artist for boxart in tank scale models, or just get to draw very bleak or dark fantasy content and work in Digimon TCG. That'd be pretty neato. Otherwise, a more realistic goal or dream would be, just create dark fantasy art that looks badass and really good enough. Knights, dinosaurs, monsters, etc. and draw them in such detail that'd be really fuggin cool.
>>7897967Cute>>7897965Too small>>7897995Use a reference. Rendering is muddy as fuck>>7897751Very cool
>>7897960are you that red blob guy that draws little girls?
>>7897679Love this, like a LOT. Love how organic and purposeful the lines feel. When I try to use thin lines it always looks retarded but I love when other people do it>>7897751Drawing big is so hard, looks great especially considering you went out of your comfort zone>>7897786Super cool, was there any specific inspo?>>7897895Woah. Having a hard time figuring out whats going on but I think that adds to it>>7897944I enjoy this, post when doneAnywho ignore the face, the purpose for this one was to figure out where his scars are and get more used to drawing his body type & clothes
