Anyone else tired of art that is well rendered but is meaningless?
>>7902372>well rendered
>>7902374You see a flaw?
>>7902382That's your standard mid 2000's devianart render slop. That was the era when soft pillow rendering was experimentally mismatched with early shitty "texture" brushes and visual graphic "effects" like that sea in the background.It was the height of delusional render slop. That pic is a great example of that era.
>>7902372Everyone is tired of it. It appeals to normies because it's in the same brainspace as highly jazzed up cosplayer photos. But that's such a shallow segment of the population, with almost no real care for the artists doing the work as individuals. And why would they? There's barely any individuality shown in renderslop garbage.>Oh I made [specific media character] look like an idealized cosplayer>Generic indistinct background just there so it doesn't look like a VOID>Lack of expressivity in the face, some kind of parted lips duckface or slight smirk are the most commonThere's even professional renderslop that isn't porn. A good chunk of Magic cards and other highly corporatized fanasy art is like that, where it's some uncanny valley shit.
>>7902372overpolishing is the bane of permabegs, a true master knows when to let the imperfections shine
flat base colors > any other rendering style
>>7902372I'm tired of meaningless art whether it's well rendered or not
lmao is that sakimichan ?
>>7902372Oh my god... I want to cum... I WANT TO CUM!! ARH! AHHHHHHH OH GOD I'M CUMMING TITTIES ARGH FUCK YES BOOBS MMM I FUCKING LOVE TITTIES AAAAAARGH!!! YES!! YES!!!! I'M CUUUUUUUMMMMMMIIIIIIINNNNNGGGGG!!!!...So was there any reason to use a pornographic image for the OP? Were you explicitly talking about sexual images?
>>7902468>How being a man 24/7 feels like.
>>7902372Such pictures just always confuse me. It somehow manages to look cheap and impressive at the same time. I don't really like looking at it, but at the same time I have no idea how the artist did it and I couldn't do something like this.
>>7902372Art, by definition, is meaningless. It's just a bucked of self-fellating crabs.
>>7902497Art is a communication device, that's not "meaningless". You're mixing your "definitions" there, buddy. "Appeal and Style" could be meaningless, maybe, if even..
>>7902502>art is a communication devicehttps://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2qe112
someone spends hours meticulously rendering every minute detail and you go and call it slop. Fucking unbelievable.
You answered your own question. Artists like Dave Rapoza consistently get work because his work is well polished while also being exciting. His compositions, colors, and design choices make the image 'pop', which is something the majority of Patreon coomers artists just can't do.
>>7902372And in what differs to a not well rendered but still meaningless?
>>7902543> male artist > female artist
>>7902540>OpposingOpinionSlop
>>7902554> Experience > opinion
>>7902555SemanticsSlop
>>7902557> Being Right > Semantics
>>7902540Looks worse than Ai. It very well could've been photobashed from AI too
>>7902563competent Ai images have been around for 3 years. That particular style is much, much older.Imagine I show you a human-made over-rendered painting in 2015. What would you say? Would you not at least admire the countless hours going into it?
>>7902581Just because you put 100 hours into something bad doesn't make it enjoyable. The standards of what is acceptable shifts with the times. If you render like this in this day and age, people would rather pay an AI photobasher to bash at least a good looking anime girl, in half the time for a fraction of the price.
>>7902540a polished turd is still a turd
>>7902372sakimichan was soulless from the beginning. She has no "Je ne sais quoi". The human embodiment of the AI soulless style before AI.
>>7902372Even as a hormone filled teen sakimichan's art never appealed to me
>>7902598Real Coom slop ain't supposed to be "pretty and polished", but raw and unapologetically daring. That's why that kitschy stuff didn't trigger your lustful instinct in any deep way.I think that's why the "system" allowed her to "get away wit it". It wasn't really gooning worthy material and everyone knew that. It was just some gimmicky slop that resulted addictive to the consumers, just as AI slop happens to be right now. A silly soulless addiction. Raw coom slop at least touches your inner core in a meaningful way, triggering intense emotions. That's worth something at least.
>>7902468>>7902475kek
>>7902543This looks fucking retarded
obligatory scatimi post
>>7902372I mean desu if you want rendermonkey artstyles you unironically can just use AI. The only reason you'd commission a rendermonkey nowadays is if you want the prestige or you really like that artist's artstyle.
>>7902543This looks fucking awesome
>>7902761Hi Dave =)
that phantom ghost nose with asymmetrical nostrils is really bothering me. anime girls were not supposed to be realistic at the same time.i think that this art could benefit from a real background. the artist spent so much time rendering the girl and then just cropped off her legs and slapped an ocean backdrop so it looks uncanny.
>>7902753go back to /g/, sam altman. this is an art board
>>7902540Effort =! QualityThat's just how it is. If it sucks it sucks.
>>7902372that looks like garbage, not well renderedget your eyes checked
Take screenshots from porn then trace it fuck itWhat are they gunna do sue you?Nobody will care
>>7902497>Art, by definition, is meaningless.Wrong. Art without meaning is meaningless.A lot of artists here just make art to try to impress other people rather than to use it to do something creative. They have nothing else going for themselves and drawing was the only thing they were decent at so they keep doing it. Not because they want to use the medium to say something but because it's the only thing keeping their ego intact.RENDERSLOP is simply artwork that is ONLY a display of painting skill and nothing else. It doesn't tell a story, it doesn't get you thinking, and it doesn't evoke any real emotion. It's just there to show you that artist is good at rendering. That's it. That's why most of it is just booba posts. If it wasn't, nobody would actually care.These people are not creative thus their work is meaningless.
>>7903929>It doesn't tell a story, it doesn't get you thinking, and it doesn't evoke any real emotion.I see you have an interest in literature. How's your novel going? BTW you're probably lost, this is a board for people who draw pictures.
>>7903945cope seeth mald
>>7903945How's your most recent drawing of an anime girl in a void going?
>>7903945>this is a board for people who draw picturesNo, that would be this board:>>>/i/This board is for people who talk about drawing, not actually do it.
>>7902418THIS
>>7902372This thread encapsulates that none of the opinions on this board matter, the opinions of the people who draw and the opinions of the people that consume drawings are too opposite , and in the end no one really cares about "the integrity of art" other than the "artists".Before AI Sakimichan was popular for a reason, her shit was appealing to normalfaggots and thats it, no amount of "it looks empty" will change that, thats why X character in a white void still reigns supreme amongst normalfaggots.A pretty drawing will beat and technical prowess or style any time of the day, thats why AI is so popular and thats why it will continue to be popular, normalfaggots realized that the fight no longer generated clout and good goy points and decided to accept it.What a pointless thread, pretentious on so many levels it stops being funny and becomes annoying.
Is that Bremerton?
>>7902372tits hav -9999 meaning
>>7904963there are 9999 normies in the room
>>7902418You guys are losers and you hesitation to learn how planes and edges work is exactly why no one will remember your name.
>>7905310yea...lack of shading, thats itthats whats holding back artists from becoming well known...
>>7903872I agree. However: Effort = artistic worth is equally true.Think about it. As a consumer, and especially as an artist looking at other artworks, you want to see effort. Look at something like Puparia. That 3 minute short took 3 years to make. He could've gotten help or do it quicker digitally, but he decided to do it alone and traditionally. That's true art. But skill level doesn't even matter. Even works with low skill but lots of work put into them are seen as 'soulful'. Meanwhile, work with low effort is disliked by everyone. Even the average person has realized that modern art without effort is worthless. Someone paints a single colored triangle onto a white canvas. That takes no effort. It fucking sucks. Same with AI art. it doesn't evoke effort - therefore it's artistically worthless. That's the hidden currency.
>>7906114>Same with AI art. it doesn't evoke effort - therefore it's artistically worthlessIt looks pretty though, and thats what people want to see, pretty shit. In the end what matters are the results.
>>7902540This is so gay and corny and wasn’t made by anymore with even a drop of testosterone in their system. Violencefantasyslop
>>7906126I can only hope posts like this flash in your mind when the shit YOU enjoy discussing about get ruined and mangled by people who have zero interest in actual discussion and only live to shitpost.
>>7902372Do you feel lonely anon?
>>7902540Friendly reminder that violence is corelated with low intelligence and ignorance.
>>7906152If you really think that violence only involves physical contact then you are the one that is low IQ here.
slop is just a funny word to say and it perfectly encapsulates the essence of what it is referring to i.e. something low brow, kitsch, appealing to the lowest common denominator, brain dead, tasteless, etceteraIt's not even a new wordalso yeah that comic is corny as fuckit's so corny it ends up being a self-own.. but what would slop eating piggers even know about self-awarenes? lol
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>>7902418I'll kind of agree, but only in so far that it's a deliberate choice, and not a crutch because you actually couldn't render realistically if need be.>>7906057Comics are kind of a different medium, if we're talking purely about pictures/illustration.Story, characters, and jokes, are able to make people overlook some truly dogshit art - not that Peanuts has bad art by any means (though I prefer it in black and white).
>>7906176Where exactly did I say this, mr walking fallacy?
>>7906275artists on here shouldnt even be trying to be "the best of the best" artist, thats an impossibly difficult taskjust get good enough to be able to draw in the medium you want to work in and get good at other things besides drawingpretty pictures are cool and all but if thats all you can do, ai can do that just as goodwhat ai cant do is be creative with their work, it can only match technical skill, which means nothing on its own now
>>7906531>artists on here shouldnt even be trying to be "the best of the best" artist, thats an impossibly difficult taskWhile I agree with the overall sentiment, we should all be aiming to be the best we can be. Simply saying 'this is good enough' is going to lead to stagnation and laziness, if not regression."This is good, but I can do better" - Is the mindset I think we should have.
>>7906610its more important to determine your actual goal not really to be better than you are nowif what you want to do is Peanuts shit, learning how to accurately draw faces in every possible angle with perfect proportions is just a waste of time even if you could get better at themits only a problem when you need to get better for a specific medium but you choose to allow yourself to stagnate
>>7906531>ai can do that just as goodnot really.
>>7902677>>7902761The duality of man>>7902852Another weird ass problem with the nose is the lack of subsurface scattering. It's avsent in a lot of places so she looks even more like a lifeless blow up doll, but it's especially apparent in the nose area.
>>7902372Well I think that there is no such a thing as meaningless art at all. Even if you paint a random generic grass, well why that grass? You liked it so much so that you thought it would be a nice art. Same with the big boobed anime girl with a slop background. The artist likes it > emotions was put into it > not meaningless
>>7907854this is just imposed meaninga banana taped to a wall has no meaning no matter how many times you try to astroturf
