Like, I've seen a lot of people calling the course, boring as hell, and that they almost quit drawing because of it. Umm, hello 50% rule?! plus improvement isn't supposed to be fun. Improvement is not something that you would gain overnight and having fun in the process as well. It is just simply work. “His art sucks though, therefore you can't learn from him because he sucks at art" Well, even peter han has admitted in the past that some of his students has surpassed him in terms of art. But they're still necessary because of the important fundamentals that they teach. The products from the artist do not matter. What matters ks what they teach.
Least retarded drawabox bait thread
>>7902624do we really need a drawabox thread every week?no one actually reads all the instructions and does his course like he describes.the type of person that wants a course like drawabox wants safe guidelines to follow so they are "learning to draw properly". they often have nothing to draw for the 50% rule and "just drawing" as a complete beginner is very hard.basically, the course isn't designed well for the people who are attracted to it so it's doomed to fail most of the time.
>>7902633What makes you say that? Are you speaking from experience?
>>7902634from 100s of anons complaining about the course but never actually reading it and following it
>>7902635The problem with drawabox is not a in ita course, but rather a problem with how you use the course.
Yeah, this course is underrated. Ngl. It should've been much more popular.
>>7902641if most people use it wrong, it was designed poorly
> /ic/: gets filtered by the 250 box challenge> me, shortly before quitting:
>>7902789What's the point of spamming shapes like a retard? You won't learn to draw and you're just delaying your non existent progress.Do permabegs really think that drawing boxes and slop like this will magically give them skills?
only like 5% actually complete the course and those people are the people who the course is designed for.
>>7902834Autists with a penchant for drawing cubes?
>>7902817Counter argument: What's wrong with practicing boxes? Boxes are great for a lot of things because they tackle multiple fundamentals all at once. Even a lot of great artists today and in history admit that boxes are the kings in the shape kingdom.
>>7902850They're good for flying doghouses, maybe.
>>7902850Practicing boxes is great if you actually make use of them in your drawing process, and need them to be better. It isn't going to do much good for a clueless beginner who doesn't even have a coherent drawing process yet.
So draw a box or Peter Han?
>>7902624I think the first 3 lessons are legitimately good.This was one of the first courses I took and it helped me a lot to eyeball boxes while drawing figures.
>>7902789you are doing these wrong, the gradients don't show any form as the shadows are too vague. and messy, the texture studies here are a more strict version of peter hans textures iirc.pay for the direct feedback or look at other peoples work.>>7905770I completed it except for the 100 chests challenge and I can appreciate the milage it gave me in construction I wouldn't have done outside of it and yeah holy shit, massive improvement in eyeballing everything, especially cylinders and box proportions.this shit doesn't make you good at drawing at all but goddamn does it help.
>>7902624it would help if the guy who wrote the course wasn't so fucking wordy. on the very first page he even says he's wordy, so he KNOWS he has a problem, yet chooses not to fix it. it's such a slog to get through and a waste of your time. i literally fell asleep because i spent the day reading through shit instead of actually doing anything.and the fuckwit insists on using a pen with paper, one of his non-sensical reasons is to prohibit the use of undo. but you know what happens when someone completes this course and then goes onto doing digital? they're going to rely on undo because they haven't been conditioned not to because the stupid course insists on using traditional medium, and they aren't going to develop the familiarity of working with digital.
What is the alternative for learning dynamic sketching? drawabox is horrible, but otherwise the options seem to be Peter Han and Charles HuPeter Han barely explains anything, in both his book and his courses. Charles Hu does longer courses, but 3/4 of those are him reviewing students work. Then he spents 20 minutes explaining new stuff in his broken mandarin-english which could probably be condensed into 4 minutes.Also, these two guys have the shittiest technical setup i have ever seen. Peter Han routinely blocks what he draws with his head and Charles Hu cannot for the life of him get the camera to focus on his paper. Every /beg/ on youtube manages to produce better video.Who manages to learn anything with these guys, what the fuck??
>>7906669>one of his non-sensical reasons is to prohibit the use of undo.But this is a good thing in the sense that you can see everything that you've done, especially the mistakes and work fasterThat's the other point of it iirc
>>7902789250 boxes can be done in 2 hours @ 30secs a box. what's the problem
>>7902624Because DaB is a free art courseBut an art course is something you kinda go through it instead of doing it on regular basis.So the target audience for DaB is usually going to be the people who want to get better at drawing as fast as possible, and tends to get shilled by people who dont really draw that much but heard about it whenever beginners asked about courses to improve their drawing.This leads to burnout where people just burn through the course rather than learning piece by piece while they draw things they want to draw. So you have people who's more into getting better at drawing without already into the drawing process. Honestly if you want a laser focused course or learning how to draw just find things like Peter Han or Loomis or somethingDrawabox, Ctrl+Paint, or following art edutainment youtubers like Marc Brunet, BoroCG, Saito Naoki is more for people who are already drawing but just want to do some exercises or learn something new on the side.I think it's the mindset of people and difference in expectation that give DaB a bad name (and tbf the creator of DaB's own portfolio doesnt really scream he knows much what he preaches).
>>7906774just don't use undo??? whatever benefits he claims can also be found in digital. and if you're gonna end up doing digital, start from that so you gain the familiarity instead of wasting your time on a medium you'll never use again.he doesn't need a whole frickin' page explaining why you should use what he demands of you. just let people choose what they're comfortable with and quit wasting their time with your arbritrary non-sensical rules.the real reason he insists on using a pen is because his stupid website sells them. guy's a grifter. just learn basic construction and perspective elsewhere, you'll save a ton of time.
>>7902624>Do you guys think that drawabox is simply just misunderstood hereI feel it's the opposite. Some people understand it too well. This is just a repackaging of long-existing knowledge, simple concepts that have been explained by better artists much more succinctly and applied with greater virtuosity, with an added dose of modern day self-help scam energy. DAB is a guru, like many others on the internet, who took a fundamental but small topic and expanded it beyond reason to make what he does seem more important.If it works for you, fantastic. Good for you and good for him. But stop coming here and pitching this sugar water as a cure-all, and most definitely stop attaching his website to this.
>>7907210It's insane to me that people here try to get good at drawing without drawing on paper with pencil and pen. Digital art has mindfucked a generation. I mean it's fine to do digital but to never draw on paper or canvas or something real just makes no sense. You're taking on a handicap at a critical stage in the learning process for no reason. You should definitely be practicing with pencil or pen regardless of what some shitter says to do in his course, it's just so basic and ubiquitous and teaches you fundamentally transferable skills.
>>7905825yeah it's pretty bad. this is where I got filtered because I fundamentally do not understand how cast shadows as a concept. I just powered through the rest of the excercises for lesson 2 and decided to move on to somewhere else, someday I will come back and actually do this properly
>>7907241most people cannot see the value in drawing a thousand boxes, let alone being proficient at multiple mediums.like holy shit, drawing with ink has made me draw and sketch faster digitally.
>>7902624there are some good nuggets in there but it's obvious that a lot of how its designed is to extract maximum patreonbux from retarded redditors
