when people say "just draw" this is why
“Just draw” is a begtard trap.
What they mean is get good faggot/stop crying/don't care/shut the fuck up
>>7905287Discussing education with academics is painful. They'll babble on about Bloom's Taxonomy but stick 'em in a room with a few kids and they'll get frustrated and berate them for not having a growth mindset.
yet to be refuted btw
>>7905289>“Just draw” is a begtard trap.saying this is a begtrap too
when people say "just draw" this is why i copy-paste youtube thumbnails on /ic/ instead of drawing
>>7905840begtard traps are begtard traps tooyou can never win
A 7 y/o I know drew this, unprompted, spontaneously, honestly. I took a picture because I thought it was cute. So why is this so hard for /ic/?>bu-You haven't done this in literal years, have you? An honest drawing, because you felt like it. A drawing that made you happy.
>>7905287There are also "learners" that want to improve by doing exact steps without exploration by themselves.It's all retarded
Sure, an expert may not be able to teach well, but what about someone who is both an expert and is somewhat talented in teaching?The expert may have blindspot, but the teacher would not.Regardless, I think saying that an expert has blindspot in how to acquire the skills and talents to reach their level, and there the experts advice has no value... is like throwing the baby out with the bathwater.Regardless, "just draw" is still the best advice, but your reasoning behind why that is, is retarded.If you want the best result from your workout, you speak to a fitness coach, or study up on a good routine.Likewise, if you want the best results from your drawing study sessions, have a teacher, or a good book to help with that routine.Just mindlessly drawing, or mindlessly exercising, will often bring suboptimal results.
>>7905855does this count?
>>7905855Do those dimensions make any sense in a larger context?
>tell a beg how to do shit>he flips out because it doesn't yield instant resultsjust kill yourselfthat will have instant results
>>7908601yes, gj
>>7905855a 7yo is already too intellectually advanced for the average autist here
>>7908667>a 7yo is already too intellectually advanced for the average autist hereYourself included, I presume?
>/ic/ has lower cognitive abilities than a 7 year oldcase in point >>7908686
>>7908664:3
>>7908713>Avoiding the question like he avoids eye-contactHa! It's okay buddy. We're all retarded here.
>>7905287This is real. But amateurs who pretend to be experts while being unable to answer questions with any specificity are just as likely to say "just draw.""Just draw" and "just draw this way/just draw it again" are not the same advice.
>>7905855It's fucking sad that kids only draw IPslop now, and then they quit drawingfucking cattle
>>7905287Just draw is real, it doesn't work with you because you are a low functioning retard. People with autism don't count
>>7908775This is not new. What's more surprising is that kids are drawing the same shit that kids drew when I was a kid. It's been Dragon Ball, Mario, and Sonic for 30+ years now.
>>7908736>we're all retarded hereNo, just you.
you can only "just draw" if your life is good. If you're stressed then you can't enter flow state and thus you can't improve or learn.
THERE IS NO FOOLPROOF WAY TO TURN A BEG INTO A GREAT ARTISTIN THE 2000 YEARS SINCE JESUS DIED NOT A SINGLE PERSON IN HISTORY STARTED SHIT AND STUDIED THEIR WAY TO PRO.YOU NEED A CREATIVE SPIRIT AND THE NATURAL ABILITY TO FEEL THE FORM.JUST DRAW MEANS TO JUST DO AS MUCH AS YOU CAN AND HOPE YOU HAD IT IN YOU THE ENTIRE TIME
>>7908849>a 7yo is already too intellectually advanced for the average autist here>/ic/ has lower cognitive abilities than a 7 year oldOh no, he's already forgetting things he's said, he's dementing! Don't worry my retarded little friend, we're all here for you.
>>7908865What you write isn't exactly above the level of a 7 year old.How fucking mad are you? lmao
Everyone, please be patient with >>7908869, he's having a little retard rage moment.
>>7908875>ur le madA 7 year old can come up with better posts than this.
>>7908879>How fucking mad are you? lmao >>7908869>ur le mad>A 7 year old can come up with better posts than this.I agree, only a true retard would use such a banal response.
>>7908860yeah
>>7908889>"no you"Aren't you going to write more fanfiction about me? Maybe i'll get offended.
>>7908896Sure, if that's what you want, let's just do a quick fanfiction (though mostly a faithful adaptation) recap of our conversation so far. Enjoy.>You: Everyone on this board is retarded.>Me: Does that include yourself?>You: Like this guy above!>Me: So you don't deny it! Hello my fellow retard.>You: No, you're the only retard here.>Me: But you said this board is full of retards, which includes you?>You: You're retarded and mad!>Me: It's okay my fellow retard, shh shh, it's all okay.>You: I-I-I'm not mad, YOU ARE! AND EVEN IF I WERE MAD, POINTING IT OUT IS A RETARD INSULT!!>Me: ??? But you just said earlier...>You: REEEEE STOP MAKING THINGS UP! I'M NOT OFFENDED!!I must say, our friendship has been a bumpy one so far! I wonder what twists and turns will test this friendship in the future?
>>7908917>literally making things up inside his headyou even got the reading comprehension of a 6 year oldlol
>>7908929>literally making things up inside his head>Aren't you going to write more fanfiction about me?It's the fanfiction you asked for, you silly retarded and dementing goose. I must say, I didn't expect you to lower the age of your insult by one, that's quite the twist. Don't worry, our friendship maintains!Don't worry, no matter how much you spurg out, or how mean your words are, our friendship will persist! I'll always be in your heart.
>admits it and owns himselfman, if only you had any capacity for self-awareneslmao
>>7905855I've literally never done that, and don't really know how to start. That 7 year old genuinely has a better understanding of drawing than I do.
>>7905855I did this today, I self inserted my oc into something someone else animatedhttps://files.catbox.moe/0illx2.mp4
>>7905287Kek and you will fucking screech when the experts tell you that you need to po practice fundies.
>>7905291Lol calm down incel
>>7905360Lol true sometimes
>>7905855all adults lose the ability to do this due to capitalism and goyslop changing us.
>>7908788>This is not new.It is. They only draw IPslop because they're creatively bankrupt by the time they can hold a crayon. Fucking deep fried in the brain. They can't even think of something original or creative. When I was a kid I drew shit I saw in cartoons but also a lot of random I came up with. Kids now only draw IPs they don't even watch
>>7905855I don't have time as an adult to draw "honestly" i have to make money. All jobs are inherently dishonest because you are doing it to get paid and would rather just take the money for free. I enjoy drawing, don't get me wrong, but i also need to eat and pay rent. If that 7 year old had to draw a sonic that was good enough to prevent his parents from divorcing, then we'll talk.
>>7909249I assume you enjoy your job more than you would other jobs, because it's an art job - so I don't see how that could be seen as dishonest.I think the whole line of arguing that 'mindless drawing' is somehow more honest than drawing with reason and intention behind it is stupid.Cool, the kids doodle when they're bored in class because that's all they can do to entertain themselves - this is honest compared to someone who intentionally chose to draw when they could be doing other things because...?
>>7905860Not that guy, but my problem is to get people to even start drawing.
>>7909224Kids are not looking over their shoulder trying to impress idiots on the internet. A throwaway Sonic drawing is infinitely more honest than trying to be original for its own sake. You're seeing what they actually care about.>>7909249So then be miserable.
>nu/ic/ literally mindbroken by a 7 year old's scribblethe absolute state of this third world underage autists infested board
>>7909357>literally mindbrokenIf we're going to be hyperbolic and use the word 'literally' wrong, then sure, I guess we are.
just draw doesnt mean mindlessly draw with no iq or thought it just means stop fucking making threads on ic, making excuses of why you cant draw or improve, and just put the hours in and study up
>>7909406>"You thought that "just draw" meant "just draw? What are you, stupid?"
>>7909901nta, but yes, literally. Are you stupid?
>>7909406>just draw doesnt mean mindlessly draw with no iq or thought I mean, when I just draw mindlessly with no thought into my sketchbook, out come entire worlds and stories. It can't be that difficult, right?
>>7905287If you want real advice, you have to pay me
>>7909935>erm, actually, I was just pretending to be retarded!!! i actually know how to teach!
Nobody comes to fucking 4chan to "teach" fucking lmaoYou don't think real artists have their own projects to work on?
>>7909959>nobody uses the critique board for critiquing, what are you, retarded??crazy how people admit to not using the board for it's indented purpose and dont get banned but i get a warning for making an /ic/ meme, funny how that worksreminder that /i/ exists if all you want to do is post your artwork>b-b-but nobody uses it!exactlythat's how little people actually care about your artpeople come here to learn how to draw, not look at your artwork, nobody cares
>>7909964BTW "critique" isn't about masters teaching begs it's something actual artists do to help each other improve.It's pointing out mistakes so they can be fixed. How you go about fixing them is your own business and no one's gonna hold your hand.Ain't nobody got time for howies who don't know how to hold a pencil.
>>7909975Again, if you're here, either you're giving critique or you're receiving critique. If you refuse to give critique and you're not here to give it, why are you on this board?Don't answer that, I already know: /ic/ has more eyeballs than /i/. Because you want more people to actually see your artwork, you maliciously post artwork into the critique board as a ruse to get compliments with no intention of taking or receiving critique.You making a dumb fucking excuse about people not being able to hold a pencil is giga low-iq and shows you don't put much thought into the fucking garbage that piles up inside of your brain.
>HURRR Y U NO POST WORK????porn "artists" come here to advertiseif you're not shilling your subscribestar dog nigger porn page there is no reason to post content on 4chanthe only result is you will 1) waste time engaging with potheads, shitskins and trannies 2) train the AI spambots flooding the site 3) get doxxed or stalked by the local mentally ill autist
>>7910049>3) get doxxed or stalked by the local mentally ill autistThat's me by the way.
>>7910049couple years ago posting this (factually true statement) would've gotten you 10 million butthurt repliesnow this has become so obvious not even the autists and the pornfags can attempt to disagree to damage control
You can't "just draw", you are limited because what you draw has to have good composition, say something interesting, include something you care about (which is passion/soul) and it needs to be somewhat original. There's only like ten different compositions that are even worth using and maybe a hundred unique poses. When you draw one, you can't draw anything even close to it if you enjoy drawing, you'll want to do something in a completely different direction, so your choices are even smaller.
