How could we be miserable about something we don't even do?

>>7905936
Yeah . I just play video games all day

all boards are shit for their main purpose because fags who fail at enjoying the main board function will haunt it and shit it up because other people not failing is seen as an insult to their ego

Why do we need to turn everything we do into a public spectacle?
If you liked drawing, you'd do it even without the prospect of an audience.

>>7905935
I enjoy drawing. But I also don't post here much because fo all the doomposting and general bullshit.

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It's fun. Misery only comes from combining your ego with your work.

>>7905973
based
>>7905935
You are part of the problem you pretend to decry

>>7905935
You can't determine if drawing is fun or not from some random message board on the internet. Go get your own evidence.

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>>7905935
Ignore the board. Just look at the artists you like and reflect on what inspired you to draw in the first place and let that motivate you. Here, I'll help you get started.

>>7905935
Drawing is very hard, so it just becomes something you constantly fail at, if it goes well, for a decade.

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You can just draw memes you like. :)

>most active thread is a software war between nodraws
it's best you just don't look at this board.

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>>7906002
anon it's at the bottom of the top 8 posts/min and it's just two autists going "nuh uh" at eachother
this dogshit nodraw meta thread on the other hand

>>7906007
this board also has severe autists that read every word to its literal meaning, so it's extra best you just don't look at this board.

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>>7905935
Anon, just doodle and try to get better each day. This board is filled with either people have given up and get off to the chance of making someone give up as well, or actual artists that try and draw everyday.

I enjoy drawing even though I suck imo.
Doodled picrel and screwed up based on the ref pic. Perspectives and forms all messed up. Did I have fun though? yes. If u got the same keep drawing, rooting 4 u.

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>>7905935
Yea, I fucking hate drawing.
The worst thing that ever happened to me was finding out that drawing is a "skill" and that I MIGHT have been able to learn how to do it.

If I was lied to and told it was a talent, I would've never done it. It would've solved 100% of all of my problems. My quality of life would've improved 10x. Probably be married and have kids by now.

Now, I just draw because I hate myself.

>>7905973
Sick

>>7905935
survivorship bias
people who have fun drawing, draw
people who don't, post

>>7905940
this is sad but true

I only come here to vent inbetween my drawing, so I spew negativity or troll and then go back to drawing.

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>>7905940
This is true for any educational pursuit.

When I had studied Japanese for 2 years, and fallen for the common memes, I saw Heisig being shilled in a Reddit thread. Naturally, I went into the thread and gave my recommendations and said to avoid Heisig as that's a trap.

You wouldn't believe the amount vitriol I received from these Redditors. They were clearly only months into studying Japanese and didn't really know what they were talking about yet they had the gall to insult my intelligence and wanted me to prove that I could speak Japanese fluently or some shit.

From that day forward, I realized that in order to learn something, using things like Reddit and 4chan are the worst possible ways to do it. The only reason I didn't improve in drawing for years was precisely because I tried using /ic/ to learn how to draw (after Reddit just ignored my drawings). If I just did what I did with Japanese instead, I'd be far ahead where I am now instead of being stuck in /beg/ for years.

>>7905935
oh look a nodraw having a melty,''shocking''

>>7905935
Llearnin to do it better and pushing your limits is miserable, but it pays off

I mean, it takes some struggle to get to the point where you can create things that not only impress others but yourself. Until you get to that point it's not really fun. To top it off, unless your bar for excellence and expectations for yourself are always increasing as your skill does. This is the perfect cocktail for being caught in a loop of misery. You need to balance the grind with fun. It's why you hear so many master artists talk about how it took them decades to learn to make art like a child. Once you've developed your skills, it becomes harder to just let go and play with the things you've learned. When you're playing, that's when you're most creative. It isn't even pseduobabble, it's backed up by studies that show the flow state is somewhere in between play and focus. That flow state is where the magic happens. When you make art you look back at and go what the fuck? How did I even do this? That's what can take decades to learn to tap into at will

>>7905935
it was fun, when I was 12

>>7906020
composition fail

>>7905935
>most of you
You mean anyone who doesn't accompany their post with their own art, right? If you ignore any post that fits that criteria this board automatically becomes 1000% better. I realize me saying this is ironic but I'm not showing any of you bastards my awesome art. You're unworthy.

>>7906031
Anything is a skill

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A certain level of misery is to be expected in any craft that one wishes to learn I think, when you run into the limits of your current skill level and realise how far you still are from your goals. The trick is to understand that it's part of the process of improving, and if you've come this far you can go furhter still. This place, or internet in general, just has the unfortunate effect of amplifying the frustration people feel about their inadequacies. The solution is unironically touch grass.

>>7905935
They hate drawing for some reason

>>7906031
You know what? Yeah, took the words right out of my mouth. I pretend I still try and get better because I'm clinging on to that shred of hope, but in reality it's out of sunk cost fallacy. There are heights some people will just never reach but they still insist on looking up and fantasizing about the view they *could* have if they did.

>>7905935
how many people here are thirdties going all in on drawing as their ticket out of poverty? These people have ruined digital art and /ic/ while honest americans like us can only draw for the love of it because it will never be sustainable.

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>>7907533
im not even a thirdie but this is a shit take
if you can make art that actually means something, no third worlder will be ableto compete with you
if all you can do is technically nice drawings, then yea, youre replaceable