All the good ateliers have closed and the only academies left do shit like this nowGrim
>>7907760Apologies for the video quality. I had to compress the file to post it
>>7907763Full link here https://www.instagram.com/drawingnowparis/reel/DWY888GgjDL/
>>7907760I fucking hate performance art. I hate it! I HATE IT!!People aren't willing to pay and view your shitty performance on a stage, but somehow calling it 'art' and doing it in a gallery changes people's minds.And fuck the stupid braindead critics and gallery owners who give this shit a pass.I get second hand embarrassment from seeing this crap.
>>7907804I view performance art as theatrical entertainment from people who failed theatre and art.
Art was taken over and sabotaged by the rich long ago. Because their kids wanted to be artists, to take both the fame AND the money, but had no talent or skill, they had to destroy the definition and standard and even meaning of art to fit it to their pitiful abilities and puny minds.Art is one of the last things in the world that can elevate a peasant, and the rich have never stopped seething about the fact that talent requires none of their money, and all their money cannot buy it for them. The recent attacks on independent art through payment processors is just one facet of the war.
become an artist and pull your shit out from these galleries when they do it near your piecesthat's about all you can do against this garbageor maybe you can just wait it out and let it die considering there's like 3 people there
>>7907760Kim Jung Gi died for this
>>7907760im sorry but that's real art.drawing half naked women semi realistically is for low iq people.
>>7907818It's also why the 'AI' slop is so heavily pushed and forced onto everyone
>>7907839How the fuck is that real art?
>>7907760If it's well choreographed and generally high effort and the subject isn't cringey it's a really trippy experience especially with good sounds and music. This one looks pretty good to me, I'd go and watch it.I've paid 15€ to watch this sort of stuff and I though it was money well spent.
>>7907760Would
>>7907760Her work makes a lot more sense when you know what the letters are:A - The space of my handB - The breath between my fingersC - Eye catchingD - Drawing in your ribsE - From my elbow to my eyesF - The flesh of the cheeksG - Butter fingersH - Hips in a line with the heels and shouldersI - Slide along my skinJ - Jump from my head to my handK - Kneel down to touch my toesL - Leg jointsM - The muscles of the jawN - My arms like naked snakesO - ToothP - Play it by ear a danceQ - Queer ischium bonesR - Scratch your eyebrowsS - Walk along the spineT - On the tip of my tongueU - Unstable liquids insideW - Agile wristsX - Forzen extremities of the feetY - The coccyx, the memory of prehistoric animalhoodZ - Dizzy eyes
>>7907921Oh woww!
>>7907864it makes you mad, unironically
>>7907819The galleries would probably support the performance artist and drop your work.>>7907963I'd get mad at watching a shitty movie. Does me being mad now make that movie good? Does it make that shitty movie "Art"?
>>7907963Sounds jewish as fuck
>>7907965>goodnobody called it good, but yes, if it evokes emotion, it's real art no matter how much you cry about ita shitty wojak that makes you seethe is infinitely more art than a super technically skilled image that makes you feel nothing
>>7907965all films are art by definition, it doesn't need anything to make it suchall drawings are art, all architecture is art, all literature is artwords have meaning
>>7907971>words have meaningWords can also have multiple meanings.A wood worker working his craft, his art, may make a table, but most wouldn't call it art - unless it was a particularly spectacular table, in which case we'd say "it's a work of Art!"So there's art as a craft, then there's "Art", as a particularly good display of the craft.So no, not all literature, architecture, or visual art, is Capital A "Art" - especially performance art, which not only is it not "Art", it's not an art either, it's just shit.>>7907969>if it evokes emotion, it's real artNo. Lots of things evoke emotion. If I step on a lego brick, I'm experiencing pain - that isn't a moment of Art.If I step outside into the sunshine and feel good, is that Art?The emotions I feel when talking to a friend, is that conversation Art?If someone shits himself, and grosses everyone out, did he just create some Art in his pants?Using the evocation of emotion makes Art far too broad, to the point that anything and everything can be Art, and also misses one of the core tenets of a piece of Art - being a skilled display of a craft.If I say a movie is bad, and a poor display of the craft, then it's not Art.And like I said above, performance art is neither a display of good display of a craft, nor is it a craft at all, it's just shit.Besides, your premise is flawed; getting angry at it being in an art gallery is not an emotional response to their work, it's an emotional response to the galleries' decisions to have allowed the work to be displayed, which is not the same thing.The problem with all 3 (>>7907971, >>7907969, and me) of our arguments is that art unfortunately has a very vague definition. Everyone has their view on what art is, and everyone is correct in having that view, since art doesn't have a concrete definition. Personally I say art SHOULD be solidly defined, so we can categorise what actually is and isn't art. At least it'd stop this perpetual shitty 'what is art' debate.
>>7908004>capital Anot a thing, fedoracuckthere are 7 arts, deal with it
>>7908021It's a turn of phrase to differentiate the two meanings, dumble fuck.
>>7908032a meaning you conjured up in your leftoid head7 (seven) arts
>>7908050>Quality has never been a deciding factor in whether something can be considered artYou're a fucking uneducated retard.Also I didn't argue that the crafts aspect was incorrect.Suck the 7 (seven) sharts from my ass.
>>7908079>Quality has never been a deciding factor in whether something can be considered artI'm glad you finally understand and hope your homosexuality gets cured soon
>>7908085>Nuh uh, you!How dull. Anyway, open wide and enjoy your 7 (seven) sharts.
>>7907760Islamic Community in France removed all the Realist art academy. You'll have to go to Russia for that.
>>7907760The Gobelins are doing anatomy workshops.You can't find ateliers ? Ask to artists living in Paris if they know one, ask Joel Person for example.If you think nobody in Paris is teaching realist art you haven't searched much. You just use your ignorance to justify your rant.
>>7907965art doesn't owe you anything.once printing press became a thing people realized that you could train any old fucking monkey to draw gay portraits of pedo royals and by 20th century you had so many of these artists that doing something like full scale animated movies became economically viable so people started to explore edges and fringes of art.thats why its real art davinkis are irrelevant in 21st century.
>>7908513Sounds like you need to forget everything you have ever read and start over
>>7907760the answer is always the jews
>>7907804Gay art like performance art and symbolism was the original ragebait. It wants you to have this reaction and it considers itself a success if you do because it made you feel something which is allegedly better than nobody caring about it at all. This goes for the broken urinal and the tape banana. The intended reaction is "THIS ISN'T ART!" because it's cyclical logic that your adamance it isn't art makes it art. TL;DR artists should be slaughtered
>>7908345This is the artwork of the professor teaching anatomy at gobelins
>>7908786yet I can't paint a giant swastika
>>7907818>the richdon't fool yourself. Leftroons are fully supporting this. To them it was classic academia that was 'the rich' that needed to be destroyed, and they were successful. Where are the remnants of classical art now? More in rich old peoples houses than in anti-capitalists, so much is true
>>7908862those "rich old people" aren't capitalists, retard, capitalism was the usurpation of the ruling class by the merchantsit were those capitalists that destroyed classical academia, and the deed was done long before """anti-capitalists""", ignoring the fact that the monarchists that actually enabled and facilitated that classical academia were staunchly anti (((capitalist)))dumb fucking mutt
>>7908801You have to be retarded if you think that's a valid argument. It's dreadful that you have the right to vote.
>>7909110why pay money to learn from a permabeg if you can just visit this board? again grim
>>7907971>all literature is artAh, so my post is art as well, correct? In fact, all the posts here are art, yeah?...Guys... GUYS!! We're not wasting time posting here, we're actually making art!I'm argh... I'M AAAHHHH.... I'M MAKING ART, OH GOD, I'M MAKING ART FFFFFUUUUUUUCK I'M MAKING SOME GOOD ART, I'M CREATING, I'M CREATINNNNNG, I'MMMMM AHHHHHHHH!! CUMMMMIINNNNNNNNGGGGGG!!!Whew, making art is hard work.
>>7909216art can be shit, retard, it's a category of things, not a measure of quality
>>7908573no im not dumbing myself to your level.>>7908862>Where are the remnants of classical art now?in some gay museums normies go to also in auction houses where rich fags dick measure each other.
>>7909240Nice art creating bro, pretty shitty result though.
>>7908786The real problem is that we don't have a richer class that is worth a shit anymore. Elites in the past were skilled and relatively fragile and one shithead kid could destroy your entire legacy. Rich people now are poorly educated whore addicted idiots who are rich because daddy was rich, not because they earned anything. Look at the fucking Epstein emails, it's a bunch of cultureless swine jerking each other off with infinite money. But things have been made so safe for the rich that it's impossible to fuck it up. So you can now afford to have entire generations of nepobabies who produce nothing of worth because they can take a shit on a canvas and make 100 million anyway. I am not against elites but the people at the helm right now are a giant fucking tumor growing on top of humanity which is tumor on its own right.
>>7909248yeah, your replies lmoa get rekt shartist
>>7909261My art isn't for everyone bro. Some people just have no taste.
>>7907760>GrimThese schools used to be the gatekeepers of knowledge. They got to dictate who made it, who doesn't, and the price. But now every secret they held is online for free, or offered at a very low price by individual professional artists. Companies hire self-taught artists based on their portfolio, not their degree. How can these schools compete?They cannot. What we're seeing is capitulation. The institutions have remade themselves into rich people scamming other rich people, because they no longer have a monopoly on knowledge. Who cares? No normal person does, and neither should you. It doesn't affect you. Just laugh at them. Or sometimes laugh with them, as trolls and comedians take advantage of these snobs while they lose all credibility and relevance in the public.
>>7909272poo in the loo
>>7908513You're retarded
>>7907830Right after he took the vaccine.
>>7908843I'll never understand why "transgressive" is exclusively applied to sexually offensive art but not offensive art in general. It's brave and stunning to show a BDSM rape bestiality murder orgy but if you disturb the comforted with anything besides genitalia you're suddenly fair game to censor and nobody makes the "it could be us next" argument. My best guess at the rationalization is the kind of people who believe this also believe we currently unironically live in nazi germany so drawing a swastika is conforming to the establishment and thus anti-art or something.
>>7907760Why is it always women who do these stupid things??? Even at feminist marches, they claim to be making protest art and then they do these stupid things or stand naked and hairy, they call any crap art or try to give it a non-existent artistic meaning.
>>7909528>Why is it always women who do these stupid things???Attention seeking? I think women want attention on themselves moreso than men. Both men and when want accolades and prestige, but I think a quite happy with being looked at just because.Consider picrel, which is a observably true phenomenon. I think bullshit is similar; making actual art is difficult, but making YOURSELF the artpiece? That's not. So it's easy attention.(and before some moron whiteknights, keep in mind that men are more likely to spurg out and murder someone - pointing out differences in behavior isn't sexist.)
>>7909604>Both men and WOMEN want accolades and prestige, but I think WOMEN ARE quite happy with being looked at just because.Why do I never notice these mistakes before I hit post?
>>7909528Because they're mental midgets lmaoIt wouldn't be a problem if they weren't also such tslef centered vindictive creatures but here we are
