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>>7908410Ingenious, famous, rich, Christian.
>>7908407You guys ever just paint shit until it looks cool? Underrated painting strategy
>>7908407whats the cheapest trad set up for full color paintings?the other watercolor thread kinda disappointed me coz i though you could draw with gouache on regular printing paper just fine :/
>>7908595Probably still watercolor. The paint tends to go farther, and watercolor paper is still cheaper than canvas or boards. You also don't need special medium or solvent, since water does both.
>>7908410A very based and redpilled man.
>>7908546>You guys ever just paint shit until it looks cool?Yes. And you just skip the second part of the equation?>>7908595>set up for full color paintings?It depends on what you mean by that. In a way, there is only one medium that is completely painterly, oil paint basically defines what painting is. Many color effects that are possible with oil are impossible with water colors. In theory, if you are masochistic enough, you should be able to reproduce nearly every oil painting with acrylics, but only in theory really.So in the end it's really rather oil or whatever else.
First attempt at painting
>>7908641Be conscious of texture, for instance these flared brushstrokes invoke hair, likely why you “cut off” the paint there because you knew it looked correct but couldn’t replicate it, but in other places the texture seems to be getting muddled by your own opinions of the paint. Paint does what it wants try to get used to the fact that sometimes, like in pic related it just does what you need it to without having to force it to do so
>>7908672I will take this into account, thank you!
Anyone ever try making their own pens/markers? I'm thinking of retard-ing something later and wanted to see if anyone had any experience.
>>7908684I asked in the last thread. Nobody answered.I need a refill for my yellow posca marker.
>>7908546Anons, is this guy mentally ill?
>>7908684I put a 6 inch section of 12 gauge wire in a 2mm clutch pencil so now I can do silverpoint drawing
>>7908727No, he's an artist.
>>7908727Yes, but we don't talk about that.
>>7908733Shit, forgot to crop.
>>7908727https://www.youtube.com/@briancomforti3890He's even better than mentally ill
>>7908765You just hate me because I have swag and sex appeal
>>7908790No, I meant that unironically
Self por
>>7908803exceptionally poor stylistic choice with the jaw values, it looks like an ayy lmao chinlet
>>7908803I like it but your signature looks like a butthole
>>7908817Thanks. Here's another self por
This general has really fallen off. The last one was utter dog shit as well. Lots of bad actors spewing bullshit. I won't be posting here anymore until the trolls have gotten bored.
>>7908818Hahaha yeah, that's true I suppose. It's the Hagal rune. Copied from lord and saviour Heinrich Himmler, who signed his love letters with it.
>>7908803>>7908819>falls in love with himmler>morphs into an aryanWhat did he mean by this?
>>7908820>I won't be posting here anymoreLol, Brian is finally defeated.
>>7909239Doubt. That is clearly a weak individual with nary a speck of Brian's artistry nor quality of spirit.
>>7908708Well, shit, I guess we're starting up an arts and crafts project.I've been having an issue where a lot of my watercolor pens are too saturated for what I need, so I want to make brush pens that can hold custom pigmented fluid.Yesterday I took some ground-up chalk acrylic and let it soak in water. Not the same, I know, but still good to test pigmenting some fluid, since starting with cheap watercolors ground up isn't going to give me the range I want.I'm going to be picking up some denser foam, a cheap fountain pen, cheap watercolors, and a syringe later to try to construct it this week. Will post the results when I get to it.
>>7909269I tried to figure out, which acrylic dispersion is best for inks, but couldn't find anything.Not sure if you can use airbrush medium to mix it directly with pigment.
Reference sheet, anyone else do these for paintings?
>>7909350As a hardcore hater of yours, your pastels and drawings are better (except the anime porn maybe). I mean, don't get me wrong, it's not a compliment or anything, baka. Your oil paintings are disgusting, they are an insult to art itself. Your drawings are okey.Just put the brush away, it's not yours.
>>7909378My artistic forefather is Edgar Degas who also could barely paint relative to his drafting abilities. Coming to painting later means you can never rise above drawing with the paint. Painting is for women anyways
Ok, so I finally started using my light table now, and while it's really fun to use, I now have the problem of not knowing which paper I should use.It's not the best light table. There are probably ones with brighter light. That's why I prefer using transparent paper on it, because like this I really can mirror the drawings well.However, drawing on transparent paper feels a bit awkward. It's more slippery than normal paper.And when I try to ink, I currently just put copy machine paper over it and trace. Copy paper is not good for inking tho. When I use thicker paper I can't see the lines shining through very well. So I am not really sure which paper I should use now. I really like drawing with light table but the paper situation is a bit complicated now. Any recommendations?
>not jewish>master painter>muh forefatherLol, what did Brian mean by that?
>>7909435Thats the problem with a light table, never got used to it.
>>7909289I'm probably going to try that next if the water doesn't work out.My issue is that I don't have an easy way to get/cut nylon for a proper brush tip, so I'm just using felt/foam. I need something that can move through that. Alcohol would be perfect for the texture on the tips this would make, if I wasn't concerned it would melt the tip.
>>7909445Do you think maybe buying a better light table could fix it? I'm sure there some with brighter light. Mine is really not the best. It's not even evenly shining light. There are brighter and darker spots on it.
>>7909444There are four accepted schools of painting that stem from the Renaissance: Da Vinci, Michelangelo, Raphael, Durer.Raphael leads to Degas, which basically means draftsmanship over painting but not to Durers level. It’s a bit hard to research and the distinctions can seem arbitrary sometimes but all modern art styles do trace back to the renaissance. Gauguin and Picasso are also Raphaelites. Basically anyone Dutch before 1900 traces back to Durer including Van Gogh (inspired by Millet)This is where terms like “Pre-Raphaelite” originate because most academic schools reject Raphaelite painting as stylistic and nonsensical compared to his older contemporaries. Raphaels work is also much more erotic than the other Old Masters
>>7909450On a brighter light table you would have to cover everything but the piece of paper, otherwise it will blind you. I have a bigger copic light table, and light leaking on the sides is the most annoying aspect of using it.
>>7909456What? I think you are mixing stuff up.4 painting styles: sfumato (Leonardo), chiaroscuro, unione (Raphael) and cangiante (Michelangelo)And two basic styles of drawing. Raphaels soft, realistic drawings, with an emphasis on the outlines. And mannerism, drawing style with a lot of movement and Greek proportions, Leonardo, Michelangelo, Rubens and a lot of other people drew like that. French academics followed Raphael's drawing style. Today Vilppu for example teaches mannerism.
>>7909289>>7909269i might be telling something you guys already know but this is an important distinction to have you head wrapped around when trying to make pens.theres a big difference between ink (coloured using a liquid dye) - usually mixed in alcohol, and acrylic 'ink' (coloured using a pigment). to my knowledge dyes dont have pigment codes the same way powders do and im pretty sure many of tthem are sourced from entirely different raw materials. while pigments can be blended using both alcohol and water, but need a binder to keep the particle slurry glued together (both as a workable product, and for a non-smudgy/sticky final result) . dyes dont (i think) as they are already fully liquefied, and fully penetrates paper/fabric - fusing with the surface as it dries.
>>7909477>theres a big difference between ink (coloured using a liquid dye) - usually mixed in alcohol, and acrylic 'ink' (coloured using a pigment)Nonsense, ink is originally just soot in water, later iron gall which isn't a dye either, but chemically causes paper to darken. Dyes fade, they're not suitable for writing
>>7909485>ink is originally just soot in water, later iron gall which isn't a dye either, but chemically causes paper to darken.historically yes>Dyes fadeyes, some more than others>they're not suitable for writingtell that to biro, pilot and parkerlodge a complaint with copic while youre at it
>>7909501Fuck off, ESL retard
>>7909504sorry if this information upsets you lolnever wondered why your copic markets dont have pigment codes or light fastness ratings?
>>7909501...do you think copics are lightfast? do you sign documents with copics? what the fuck are you talking about, copics are fugitive and fade in like 6 months, they're made for throwaway reproductionsdye based writing inks aren't lightfast either, that's why everyone buys carbon and nano pigment inks and you don't see documents written in ballpoint pens in museums, you fucking retard
>>7909513>>7909504
>>7908641Second attempt turned out quite disastrous. Oh well, I will keep trying
>>7909527what are you even trying, you can fit an entire head there, you can't even judge the values against that background
>>7909532I’m trying to learn the structure of different facial features you silly billy
>>7909537that's something you do by drawing, stop acting like a retard
>>7909539It’s practice, to become comfortable with the medium
>>7909514>>7909514>...do you think copics are lightfast?ofc not>dye based writing inks aren't lightfast either, that's why everyone buys carbon and nano pigment inkswtf are you on about? are you trying to tell me everyone is using a fountain pen? >and you don't see documents written in ballpoint pens in museums, you fucking retardmost people arent writing something down they need to exhibit in a museum. dye based pens are suitable for everyday purposes and its what 99% of people have at hand. black/blue will fade in sunlight but its not about to fucking disappear off the pages of your notebook anytime soon
>>7909531wut? pigmas are called pigma because they're pigmented, you can buy them anywhere, only the shittiest pens use dyesmost basic fountain pens will take pigment and iron gall inks, it's just the fancy engraved ones and the like that are iffy
>>7909544lmao imagine shameposting and still not knowing your run of the mill drawing pens are pigment basedsad
>>7909540you're not "getting comfortable with the medium" when you don't even know what you're attempting to shape the medium into, retarddraw before painting, you're spending 10x more time on a single /beg/ exercise for no benefit
>>7909544>wtf are you on about? are you trying to tell me everyone is using a fountain pen?Anon, I...
>>7909548I attempt to shape da medium into da nose :-)
>>7909550>get basic advice that stood the test of literal centuries>hurr durrstay permabeg
>>7909551Actually I spent the day sketching noses and ended with a 40 minute attempt at painting one
>>7909545>>7909547funny you say 'drawing pen' and not 'writing pen'if you asked a stranger on the street if they have a pen you could borrow, do you really expect them to whip out a pigma?the majority of people have never once seriously considered the chemical make up of their pen and why should they? cheap, mass produced, dye based pens are ubiquitous and entirely suitable for everyday writing
>>7909556>cope intensifiesink means pigment, dyes are a historical fad that is already over and not used for any archival purposes in first world countries and was never used for art by a white man>but hurr durr drawingyou're on a drawing board in a thread about traditional art, get the fuck out with your chink water slop
>>7909558>chink water slop>bought Iroshizuku ink last month>quite expensive>by arrival found out its not waterproof and not lightfast>to lazy to send it back>havent even unpacked the bottle jet
>>7909556The majority of "people" are retards whose writing will never matter to anyone, there's a reason there were only like 2-3 presidents that used ballpoint pens before switching to rollerballs. In the history of ink, dyes are a footnote, stop acting like a retard because you said something stupid 3 hours ago.
>>7909565That is why I only use premiere French chink ink. If I can't see the bump on the paper from across the room, basically your ink is SHIT.
>>7909569I wanted a thin, wet ink with shading effect. My sketch ink is too dry.
>>7909558>ink means pigmenthere are some quotes from wikipedia to make this easier for you retards"Ink is a gel, sol, or solution that contains at least one colorant, such as a dye or pigment,"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InkA dye is a colored substance that is soluble in some solvent; by contrast pigments are insoluble or nearly so in all solvents.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dye>>7909567>The majority of "people" are retards whose writing will never matter to anyonebut youre not, and your shitposts matter. you deserve to own a fancy pen, like the one trump has.
>>7909667thanks bro, here's one for youhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust
>>7909548>>7909550They will say this to you and then, when you can draw it with a pencil after drawing in pencil for 8 years and you try to paint it they will say "This isn't done in a painterly way, you need to learn to paint properly it looks like you're trying to use the brush like a pencil"
>>7909683What the FUCK are you even talking about, retard? What does "the structure of different facial features" have to do with "done in a painterly way" and "trying to use the brush like a pencil"?
>>7909688toxic fag is mad again, lol
>>7909676>try to explain theres a difference between pigments and dye to help an anon with his DIY project >ESL!>Retard!>Jew!idk why i bother
>>7909693Can you stop projecting for 2 minutes, retard? Answer the question, what does understanding the STRUCTURE, ie knowing what the fuck it is you're drawing/painting, have to do with the stylistics of the rendition?Fucking Michelangelo did drawing studies before painting, but you're too good to know what a fucking nose looks like before trying to paint it?
don't fall for the drawing trap
>>7909695the implication was that something being on wikipedia doesn't make it real, not that you're a kike, you esl retard
>>7909696thinking that painting is the same as coloring a drawing is such a low iq thing to do, even Brian knows better
>>7909705Nobody's talking about coloring a drawing, retard, do you even know what structure means?
>>7909708>do you even know what structure means?no, im a painter, not a retard like you, i paint light, not structurejesus, imagine being more retarded than Brian
>>7909527>>7909705>the average skill level of a brian decrieroh nononono ahahahahahahabrian bros we just can't stop winning
>>7909711>i paint light, not structureLight on what, retard?
>>7909713Nose bro here, please don’t drag me into your boring drama
>>7909700oh right, the great lie that inks, dyes, and pigments are different things. beware, its not just wikipedia shilling this nonsense, every other website seems to be in on it too. dont let them get to you though, you might be the only one who sees the truth.
>>7909716esl
>im a painter, not a retard like you, i paint light, not structure
>>7909721>1774099103162089.jpgEdgar Degas?
>>7909717sorry, i didnt realise i was speaking to one. which sentence did you get stuck on?
>>7909727>realisethirdie, pls
>>7909728>what is british englishthe american mind cant comprehend
>>7909731>what is british englishsomething spoken in countries where you get arrested for posting about the roving gangs of rapists in your neighborhood on the internet before you're stabbed by someone called muhammad lol
>>7909733migger mad
>>7909733also spoken in nz, where that doesnt happen.
>>7909737ah yes, the first world country where half naked brown people with facial tattoos do tribal dances while shouting about eating people and shitting them out before going home to die of bronchiectasis like the first worlders in africa, very first world
>>7909696Where is this psychotic hostility coming from in a traditional painting thread? You're basically screaming like a retard at a bunch of geriatrics in a calm atelier. Quiet down, or I'll call the police.
>>7909744how new
>>7909746>It's a time honored tradition to act like a nutcaseFuck off to /b/
>>7909749lurk before posting
>>7909749Nigger, the main tradfags on the board are Brian and illastrat, acting like a nutcase is what started the thread
>>7909749>newfag telling someone to go back
>>7909751>People have been calling me a new fag since 2007Some things never change.
The problem with traditional art is that you eat paint and become insane
>>7909758...problem?
>>7909761*tradition
>>7909733>only one first world country on earth and its muricaonly one first world country with school shootings, no healthcare and a fentanyl epidemic, thats for sure
>>7908821stop drawing himmler you fucks
good morning!
how the fuck you paint with this much detail? brushes arent small enough even
Good morning sars!
Got a set of sable brushes from a kickstarter I backed. They're all small sizes so I mainly intend to use them for inking. How do I care for them so they don't get ruined by the ink?
>>7910211Traditional paintings who look really detailed and clean with filigree lines, they are usually painted on bigger canvas. If you try to do something like this on just A4 paper, you will most likely fail, unless you are some really talented miniature painter or something perhaps. It has to be at least A3 paper.
>>7910211paint bigger, dumbass
>>7910250You maintain brushes usually just by washing them with soap after use and keep them air tight
Doing copies
