Any artists/artbooks you can recommend following and looking at?I have a hard time searching for them because any related terminology is very overloaded.Also is pic related still the only decent book on related techniques?
yeah most ink techniques books or video courses are just people retranslating that book for 2026 audience.
>>7908484Alphonso Dunn also has a book but I don't think it's as good as Guptill'sCheck out Franklin Booth and Bernie Wrightson
>>7908484It's not the only good book/course but yeah as the other anon said: most (if not all) other resources rehash what is already in there.That is not inherently bad, but the other way around it means Guptill is never a wrong choice.
>>7908484(Seinen) Manga Artists are obviously also a good choice.Unfortunately their artbooks often focus heavily on colored illustration, which really sucks.Also take care not to confuse screentone usage with pen strokes, though those can still obviously serve as good inspiration for pen/ink rendering patterns.
>>7908484>Also is pic related still the only decent book on related techniques?Pretty much every other book since has been some regurgitation of the same information. The only book I've seen that covered information not in it was How to Draw Manga; Pen &Tone Techniques, because it went over some manga specific things like radial bursts and splatter techniques that aren't covered in Guptill's book iirc.>Any artists/artbooks you can recommend following and looking at?Obviously, manga artists. There's about a billion manga, all drawn in ink, so you should be able to find something you like.You can also look at golden age illustrators like W.W. Denslow, in the days when book illustration was relatively common. Franklin Booth and Ernie Wrightson are worth a look too.
>>7908484Try artist editions of comics - I believe they tend to have the colours removed so they it's just the inks that remain>Also is pic related still the only decent book on related techniques?There's The Art of Comic Book Inking by Gary Martin & Steve Rude.I know Joe Kubert had a course on inking as well (a video on youtube, and a booklet), though I haven't seen it, so I can't really evaluate whether it's of decent quality, but people praised his schooling, so it can't be too bad.
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>>7908598>Obviously, manga artists. There's about a billion manga, all drawn in ink, so you should be able to find something you like.I dunno. I read my fair share of manga, and I've seen some damn good art in some, but I'm drawing a blank on any that made me go 'whoah, the inking is great in this!', like I have with western comics.Could just be a matter of taste, but given the amount I've read and seen, surely a few should have aligned with my preferences and also wowed me? So it could be like finding a needle in a haystack trying to find spectacular inking in manga.But to further make my point, there's western comic artists who are renowned for their inking abilities, like Wally Wood, Terry Austin, or inversely a infamous inker like Vince Colletta (who people say ruined the works he touched). With Manga we hear about great artists as a whole, and maybe assistants, but no particular role is praised like inker, or background artist, or the guy who put down the screen tones; whereas the west has famous letterers, colourists, and of course inkers, outside of the main artist (the pencilers).I wonder if these designated separate roles just created a higher standard for inking, or again, is this just a matter of my taste.(I'm sure someone is going to post a bunch of great manga inks now to prove me wrong, haha.)
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>>7908657>but no particular role is praised like inker, or background artist, or the guy who put down the screen tonesBecause mangaka do all of their shit. There's no need to distinguish between the "roles." Mangaka might have assistants, but the perception is that there is one artist directing the ship. Whereas America has always had this assembly-line process.I prefer the Japanese aesthetic in comics. They go for graphic appeal and big shapes over detail and what I would frankly call clutter in the worst of cases. You do have to look for the all-timers, though. Your average teenslop has a shelf life of a decade maybe.
>>7908657Mangaka and their assistants don't have those kinds of fixed roles.Manga artists often start fully solo, then later get assistants and what kind of work they give them differs.Some will give them whole panels to do, others will give them certain background details while always drawing the main characters in full themselves. Some will let assistants do only screentones. Some will let them do whole inking etc.It's been a while since I watched Manben episodes but it doesn't seem to be uncommon that Mangaka only let their assistants do very minor things and/or only have them work parttime.
