My art is not improvingMy understanding is not improvingI feel cursed watching other artists make strides with ease and seeing my skill stagnate on the basic level of just understanding fundies
my art is improving even if at a slow rate. i ask myself questions and i find the answers. i take notes on what im doing wrong and i aim to correct them in my next study. i will not self pity myself or give up. its better to go slowly than to not go at all
>>7909472Are you focusing on something very specific?The reason you're not seeing improvement is probably because you're taking on some monumental task without getting really fucking specific about it.If you want to learn how to draw faces, your goal shouldn't be:>I want to get good at drawing faces.That's too broad.Break it down.What SPECIFICALLY about faces you do want to learn?Get really specific and then draw that very specific thing enough times to be comfortable drawing it. Then tackle something else specific.It's hard to give any specific examples without seeing your actual work though.
>>7909472>stagnate on the basic level of just understanding fundiesIf you understood fundies you would not be stagnating
>>7909472Just copy from your favorite artists and see how they do it. >>7909500>Get really specific and then draw that very specific thing enough times to be comfortable drawing it.That's not how it works. No matter how many individual noses you draw, it doesn't mean that you will be able to ad them to a good picture.It's a different thing to draw a whole body or scene than just drawing individual body parts.
>>7909472productive artists dont post on boards or reddit. improoving artists dont doomscroll. they are busy working
>>7909472>watching other artists make strides with ease and seeing my skill stagnate on the basic levelThere's your problem, unironically
how are you studying? when replicating what you've studied, do you compare it to the original subject? after study, do you create a picture where you attempt to incorporate what you've learned? when you've finished a picture, do you attempt to analyze it and take notes on which aspects turned out how you wanted vs aspects that differed from your intentions? are you curious about the world you live in? do you attempt to find inspiration from a diverse range of impressions? has there been any changes to your life recently? have you tried any new experiences you normally wouldn't? do you read? do you research topics? what message would you like to send to your audience? what sort of prose would you like to express that message with? do you post your work?
>>7909472Without talent, there will be no improvement. The problem with drawing is that it requires talent.I've been trying to learn to draw for 20 years now, to no avail.
>>7909472Post an early image and a more recent image of yous. Let us be the judge of whether or not you're actually stagnating.
>>7909842This is a classic case of non-advice and the fact that you didn't elaborate shows me you didn't think this through long enough before formulating this idea in your mind.>That's not how it works. No matter how many individual noses you draw, it doesn't mean that you will be able to ad them to a good picture.This implies you have to already know how to draw well (good picture) to learn how to draw well (learning to draw noses). This logic makes no sense.>It's a different thing to draw a whole body or scene than just drawing individual body parts.This implies you should be able to draw the entire human body before focusing on individual parts. This also makes no sense because how the fuck are you going to learn how to draw the whole human body if you struggle with the individual parts?I'm not saying to arbitrarily study noses.I'm saying to break it down into specific parts.This means learning proportions, the human skull, the planes of the face. All of that is far too difficult for someone to be able to handle if they've never done it before. So you focus on ONE thing specifically, lets say proportion, and you try to improve at that ONE specific thing. Doing this will solve the problem OP is having of not "not improving" because it's likely that OP is trying to take your advice and draw the whole fucking human body with little understanding if it's individual parts.
>>7909472sketch
>>7909472what do u mean by watching first of all.... do you mean actually watching how they draw or are you just looking at their numbers going up, because with the former you could easily study how they do it but the latter is plain self harm
>>7909957The most important thing to improve is to just draw what you liek drawing and having fun with it.Drawing individual body parts is not very fun, especially if you have no clue how to draw.If you are actually able to draw and can draw cool hands, then it can be fun, but otherwise it just feels too much like work.
>>7909472You gonna cry? Gonna piss your pants maybe?
>>7910179Already did, whatchu gonna do about it
>>7909472Not OP, but how do you actually improve your tridimensional understanding? I am in the fundie hell since always...
>>79102283 dimensional understanding is a consequence of all fundamentals combined. You need perspective to understand how 3d space works.You need construction to understand how to draw something into 3d space.You need to be able to create form in 3d space, ie drawing good proportions.You need to be able to draw somewhat clean lines, so that you actually can hit the right proportionsetc
>>7910032I can't draw what I like, and even more so I can't have fun with it. Fucking how?
>>7910500I have the same questiondesu it sounds like an advice to homeless man to go and buy house
My problem is >didn't know fundies>work is flat, lacking energy, gesture, anatomy etc>learn fundies>suddenly know how to make form, gesture, anatomy etc purely by intuition >keep drawing for years>base intuition doesn't improve, it's not on a complete rookie level but it's not intermediate either >spend 6 months copying and analyzing the work I aspire to be able to make every day>able to imitate the styles I like with lots of analysis and referencing >baseline still not getting better For example here are stylized hands I drew before the 6 month copy period just by looking at real hands, and ones I can draw now by intuition I hoped that with 6 months of everyday analysis I'd be able to absorb some of the style into my intuition but it just hasn't happened After learning fundies it became physically impossible for me to draw a pose without form or gesture, I want that sort of ingrained knowledge for other things as well, what do the artists I look up to know that I don't
>>7910500>>7910615If you have no clue how to draw, then you have to simplify things somehow.I would care less about anatomy then, and just focus on perspective and construction.Maybe also just draw thumbnails. Drawing bigger is harder.
>>7911029What does all this mean? What should I do and how?
