>>7911345
Some western / indie publishers of Manga:

Saturday AM ( https://www.saturday-am.com/ )
> Digital indie magazine, seems to be on the up-and-up
> Open submissions for long-form series; also distributes series currently being published elsewhere.
> Regularly publishes one-shots, making it a good potential outlet for already-finished work.

Oni Press ( https://onipress.com/ )
> Technically indie, but at this point large enough by comic standards to be mentioned in the same breath as other publishers.

Antarctic Press ( https://antarctic-press.myshopify.com/ )
> Longtime large-indie publisher of OEL / manga-esque books.
> Seemingly taking submissions at present if https://antarctic-press.myshopify.com/pages/submissions is anything to go on.

Yen Press ( https://yenpress.com/ )
> Started out as a small indie publisher of original / Korean material, and has grown reasonably popular since.
> As of 2016, it is also one of the western arms of the Kadokawa Corporation, with Kadokawa owning a 51% stake.
> Editorial inquiries can apparently be sent to yenpress@yenpress.com, however, they apparently are not open to new submissions at this time.

Viz Media / Viz Originals ( https://www.viz.com/originals )
> *The* western manga publisher.
> Currently in the exploratory stages of setting up an English label.
> Submissions are open and several books have been announced. However, progress on the label seems to be moving very slowly.
> Still might be worth a shot anyway.

Shrine Comics ( https://shrinecomics.com/ )
> Small indie manga publisher
> Seemingly attempting to make the transition to physical volumes
> Allows crossposting to other sites

Iconic Comics (https://www.iconiccomics.com/)
>A bit like Oni Press and Antarctic Press
>A small publisher with a focus on indie works with manga inspiration

>>7911346
Other open comic publishers:

Dark Horse ( https://www.darkhorse.com )
>Dark Horse still welcomes your submissions, and all submissions will still be reviewed, just as they always have been.
>All unsolicited story/series proposals must have a full creative team on board. Writer-only proposals will not be reviewed.

Image comics ( https://imagecomics.com/ )
>Image Comics only publishes creator-owned material. They do not contract creators; they’re only interested in publishing original content for which you would retain all rights.
>Image Comics publishes creator-owned/creator-generated properties and THEY DON’T PAY PAGE RATES. Image takes a small flat fee off the books published, and it will be the responsibility of the creators to determine the division of the remaining pay between their creative team members.

Drawn and quarterly ( https://drawnandquarterly.com/ )
>Please email a low resolution PDF with at least 20 pages of comics and cover letter to submissions. Do not send dropbox links, scripts, or proposals. Please read our submissions FAQ.

Fantagraphics ( https://www.fantagraphics.com/ )
>submission page: https://www.fantagraphics.com/pages/faq

Top Shelf Productions ( https://www.topshelfcomix.com/ )
>Regarding submissions, we're easy. Just email us a download link of what you'd like us to review. NOTE: We cannot accept cover letters, plot synopses, or scripts unless they are accompanied by a minimum of 10-20 completed pages (i.e., fully inked and lettered comic book pages).

Additional publisher lists:
> https://jasonthibault.com/definitive-list-comic-publisher-submission-guidelines/
> https://writingtipsoasis.com/best-independent-comic-book-publishers/

>>7911347
/mmg/'s very own anon-led anthology: /ic/onography
https://discord.gg/QYnFBves7V
https://forms.gle/d3a2Cwwd44sJYyqv9
(Anthology project is defunct but the discord is alive)

Additional community added Resources:
Mangafonts: https://mangafonts.carrd.co/
Hiro Mashima YT: https://www.youtube.com/@mashimaCh/videos
Ganmo, a job listing board for manga assistant work: https://ganmo.j-comi.co.jp/posts

How (You) can help /mmg/:

> Know about a contest or a publishing opportunity? TAG THE OP and post a link.
> Have a new resource? TAG THE OP and link / mention it for inclusion.
> Don't be a crab
> Have a link / DL for a mentioned resource? TAG THE OP and mention what you're supplying a link for.
> SCREENSHOT / PASTEBIN effort posts that help you for posterity.

>>7911349
Ongoing contests:

>Inkobon (Ends April 12):
https://inkobon.com/pages/inkoboncup

>MangaPlus/Shueisha (Two Dates Listed- Original Story on May 15th, Prepared Drawing on May 31st)
https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/web_pages/2225/

To any anons who submitted for the contests from March, good luck!

>>7911350
>To any anons who submitted for the contests from March, good luck!
i hate that they're all matching their due date to that. I understand why, but like... man

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I've caught up with your comic anon. I think it's very interesting but I want to give my thoughts on the writing.

I think the main character is lacking a worthy challenge. He sucks at the game but he is learning fast, soon he'll breeze through the speedrun. I think you should add something to really stand in his way.
An idea that comes to mind is... perhaps the guy who initially tricked them into entering the game world sees that he is progressing faster than expected and so enters the game world himself to make sure he doesn't win.

All the game NPC's act in a typical robotic manner, and the main character knows this. I don't think you should change this, I think it's good, but the immediate downside is that there's no real interaction with the characters in the game. I think adding more real characters enter the game world would really spice it up.

If the idea appeals you, I think having a girl also enter the game world would be interesting, maybe she sees the main bad guy enter it, figures out his plot, and then enters it herself to try to save the hero, but maybe she's even worse at the game than the main character and just ends up being a damsel in distress that the main character has to save.

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Which magazine/platform/publisher are you submitting your masterpiece to, anon?
Why haven't you sent your masterpiece to Weekly Shonen Jump yet?
They're desperate for a new Kimetsu no Yaiba.

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>>7911433
>pic
I disagree with this completely
A manga about cows cannot possibly expect to enjoy success without an enormous industry for it to thrive in.
>a rural food manga was later adapted into a remarkably well-crafted and emotionally rich film
Where do you think that filmmaker came from?
These niche titles only thrive where there is already a huge body of people engaging with the medium.

People find the mainstream things first. They find Pokemon, Deathnote, Dragonball Z, etc. These titles have mass normie appeal and create millions of anime fans. Those anime fans then read the manga of these works and become manga fans. Once they have exhausted all the big titles, they move to less popular works, they begin finding an interest in niche things.
Yes there are some people who genuinely find an interest in niche things without first engaging with the popular thing, but that number is so small it cannot support an industry.
Avant garde music bands don't exist without there already being an enormous mainstream music industry for them to thrive in the shadow of.

When a billion people listen to the radio, enough of those peoples tastes will diverge and begin listening to a more niche music band, enough for that music band to be financially successful.
But if all you have on the radio is the avant garde band, then so few people will even own a radio because so few people care about avant garde, and then there will be no industry to even build the radios let alone pay the musicians.

A manga industry in another country will only come about through mainstream titles, not stories about raising cows.

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>>7911444
To use another analogy.

A university founded on the desire to study the resistivity of tin at near absolute zero temperature conditions is something worth studying but is so incredibly niche that you will have no means of finding anyone willing to invest in such a project.

But if instead you found your university on more mainstream scientific research such as researching rockets for the war effort, then you will find your university inundated with billions of dollars worth of funding, and then it will be very easy for a few scientists to slip through the cracks and study the resitivity of tin. There will be programs for grant allocation, panels and committees, in other words, an industry.
But that industry cannot be born from something that so few people care about.

>>7911431
Is your editor forcing you to make it a family duo, Dingle? Because I really have to apologize but I frankly just can't accept that one lady to be the other lady's mom. She just looks nowhere near old enough; they look like college besties if anything. This is my only nitpick with your recent storyboard.

>>7911448
And this is not a commentary on the artistic merit of popular titles or niche titles. But is simply an observation of how people engage with a medium.
They find the things that are entry level. That is why we call them entry level, because that is where you enter. These things are characterised by being bold, simple, very typically shonen.

But if you don't have entry level titles, then nobody can enter your medium, and your industry cannot ever get off the ground.

>>7911454
>Is your editor forcing you to make it a family duo
No?
>Because I really have to apologize but I frankly just can't accept that one lady to be the other lady's mom.
Okay.

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Just finished this, and the missing background on the previous page. Hoping to do one more tomorrow and I'll have 7 pages to dump!

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>>7911444
Looks like we've found the cause of the success of the cow raising manga

>>7911459
It's successful because it's good. Past successes don't guarantee future successes. Look at Masashi Kishimoto.

>>7911459
I appreciate and respect Boichi as an author, however he does express a little bit of a boomerly ignorance at times. Some of this can be attributed to genuinely not knowing how things function here in the US but some of it is just regular ignorance. For example, he was begging a question "why do people want to join the industry in Japan?" But I want to say, Boichi, you're Korean. You joined the industry in Japan because you knew what you would get out of it! Yes Korea does have traditional publishing industry, but it's not even a question of which one brings in more money and also, more fame. We're aware our comic industry in the US makes such small waves now it might as well not even exist, I don't think they really have the perspective on how bad that is. It's a little silly to me that he doesn't acknowledge his reasons for moving to Japan, also there is one other thing I feel the need to mention about the difficulty of entering the industry. Even Boichi is lucky in many respects because being an established author in Korea doesn't give you a free pass even as someone a stone's throw away. Publishers still expect you to go through the song and dance all over again regardless of how well you've already made it before allowing you to debut. No one really needs to state the obvious, but I don't think it will ever be any different! I accept it, but I wish they would admit they don't want foreigners of any kind to find any place in their industry in any meaningful way.
That's all I have to say about that.

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>>7911472
Yes, but the fact that anyone has even heard of it to even offer it that success was because there were already tons of people looking for it.
If the manga industry didn't exist as the behemoth that it is, then that story about raising cows would struggle to sell even a single copy.

Even as big of a failure that Kishimoto's Samurai 8 was compared to his previous work, it still got five whole volumes out, and can still easily be bought today. Few indie comics in the west make it even half that far.
Without the success of Naruto and the rest of the manga industry, this never could have happened as easily as it did. Kishimoto was undeniably helped by his past success.

>>7911476
>Yes, but the fact that anyone has even heard of it to even offer it that success was because there were already tons of people looking for it.
It's in a commercial magazine. We're not talking about some random webcomic here.

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>>7911475
Looking at alot of his tweets, he seems really naive about the rest of the world. Here he is suggesting that Africa could have a thriving comics industry if they just paid $3 per year. Completely unaware of the vast difference between Japan and Africa

>>7911477
That's what I mean. By putting it into a large commercial magazine, that already has tons of active readers, then even the bad stuff gets a ton of eyes on it. I bet Samurai 8 even has a small dedicated fan base to this day.
But you can't support such a magazine off of only small niche works. Weekly Shonen Jump is the size it is because of heavy hitters like Naruto that brought in millions of people to the medium.

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>>7911478
You can visit many parts of Africa on google streetview and it looks like this.
This is not a country excited to get into manga. I'd be surprised if the literacy rates were even in double digts for much of Africa.

>>7911481
I once got a scam caller from Africa. He pretended to be poor to try to get me to send him money.
But after going along with him for an hour and got him to put on his camera, it became clear to me that he actually was incredibly poor. But he didn't realize it himself. His impoverished state was normal to him and the scam version of his life that he initially told me was something completely different.

At one point I get him to go to his local shop, and he picks up a bag of rice that is half empty and had expired over a year ago. This was what was for sale at the shop and he didn't even understand that this was unusual. He said that to get a bag of rice that's in date you have to be insanely rich. This wasn't something he was trying to scam me on, he just mentioned it casually offhand, this was just his life. And he thought it was normal. The scam was something about a warlord killing his non existent family or some shit.
It was as though if I had attempted to scam someone and I reveal I own a car but it's an old beater, and the person I'm trying to scam is confused why I am using an out of date car. The car wasn't part of the scam.

The point is, Africa's not getting into manga anytime soon. It is laughable to even suggest.

>>7911483
Parts of north, and (especially) south Africa are actually pretty developed, but yeah....much of the continent is usually more worried about where they're going to get clean water and food from, and worried about being pillaged by roving pirates than how hot their manga and comic scenes are.

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>>7911486
Egypt and South Africa are definitely more developed than other parts, but I still think there atleast half a century from a manga industry.

To have entertainment industries such as manga, movies, videogames, etc really demands that your country be functioning pretty darn well. These things simply don't emerge in countries with any amount of significant corruption.

But sorry to other anons here, I ranted too much and shitted up the thread with pictures of Africa and twitter screenshots. I'll stop now.

>>7911491
It was a good rant, a lot of anons seem to have a lack of perspective when it comes to our luxurious little hobby here.

very cool, I really like how you do double page spreads, looks nice

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hows my inking look? Anything i need to work on? Yet to color this yet

People will discuss why comics dont work in africa and then plug their ears and sing when someone brings up that manga can't work in the US either.

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>>7911504
these are the 2 guys ill be focusing on in this chapter too. any critiques with my artstyle rn?

>7911506
Correct. People don't want to listen to retarded, baseless nonsense.

>>7911504
You have been improving anon, keep going

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>>7911504
Simplify the hairstyle for the character with the short black hair. You draw so many individual strands that it gets the buzz saw effect and stops looking like actual hair
Like you got this drawing here >>7911507
where I count about 15 strands for his bangs, simplify it by like 7-8 strands
Like look at pic related. Im not asking you to change your characters hairstyle(its the closest non-animu character that had this hairstyle in my head) but look how few strands the character I posted has for his bangs and how it has a clean and graphic look(perfect for doing a a pure black ink fill) and since theres so few hair strands it looks like hair and not shark teeth or scribbles.
Like even if your character doesnt care about his hair canonically from a drawing point of view keeping it to a few strands looks more pleasing and you can keep drawings consistent between panels.
Also since I've mad complaints about it before let me say that yes you have gotten better with inking, good stuff anon. Looks like you put way more care into placement

>>7911507
Too much "real" not enough crazy. Consider going pedal to the metal, fly off a cliff and see where you land.

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>>7911507
>>7911511
Yo actually forget my last example I do have a better character to look at that has the hair you should aim for
It's not black hair so you would mostly end up filling in the details with pure ink but see how this characters strand count is actually around 7 for his bangs? But still looks scruffy and messy?

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alcoholic markers messed my shit up

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>>7911519

So I tried again

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>>7911520

I think I did better

>>7911519
You gotta treat it like watercolor and use the lightest shades possible at the start and be conservative with using the darker and more pure colors.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9jGxLwAeIs
Looks like you went straight in with markers that were heavy in hue and shade for their values.

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>>7911521
WIP comic page

>>7911521
Trippy, very nice
However I think you need to fix that fairies face, its not very well defined and the eyes dont stand out as much and get lost. I think its still possible at this stage to fix it, this looks like colored pencil so if you darken in the mouth and maybe erase the area where the whites of her eyes should be and use a white colored pencil it can still work. Also define the actual eye shape a little more cause thats just one very thin line, its hard to see, like your other characters in this piece have their eyes well defined but not the fairy

I believe this is technically the best work I did thus far. I am so happy I got 200 bucks for it.

For my autobiographical comic >>7911523
, I wonder how I should proceed. Take more time and do the greyscale process digitally? It's one angle I am exploring

>>7911433
I don't want to sign over the rights to my creation to some company and then have them axe it whenever they like.

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>>7911525

forgot to attach the image

>>7911478
Not to be racist or anything but Japanese people tend to be incredibly optimistically ignorant of how the rest of the world is outside of east Asia.

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Do you guys usually read classics or more modern series? Here's a tier list I made btw

>>7911491
Don't feel bad, I think those will be good references for the guy drawing the post-apocalypse story.

>>7911504
I'd pay closer attention to line weight, i.e. why you choose thicker lines vs thin, and when

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Trying something out

>>7911534
I must confess I don't actually care much about the stories for most manga. I read alot of classic literature and have become a snob.
But I've skimmed through many of these in appreciation of the art.

>>7911538
I really like how you drew that face/mask on the bottom-right panel. Looks great.

>>7911529
He's not japanese.

>>7911538
It might not be a problem if it's just this one page but you might want to vary the angles more on subsequent pages... it gets a bit boring if every character just stands there staring directly at the viewer. A common trap to fall into.
Character faces are useful for directing the reader's gaze from panel to panel and you're not really making use of that.
The drawings themselves are nice

>>7911561
He's from Korea.
Japanese will insist they're different, but really it's like distinguishing between India and Pakistan. They're close enough.

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Trying to draw 5 pages a day

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>>7911518
>>7911511
yeah i like how those look. Ill try a few different hairstyles, but i wanted him to look like the main protag in A Bittersweet Life in picrel, also got another character incoming with hair like>>7911518 so Ill probably stick with just pure black

>>7911512
yeah when i started i didnt really create intereesting character designs, I want to now, but im pretty far in, so I've just figured its more inline with the story for the characters to get more distinct as the story goes on, and more supernatural elements get introduced.

>>7911536
Yeah lineweights the main thing Im struggling with, dont really know how to improve it, other than trying to learn more through studies

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also to go along with above, heres the page colored, hows it look?

>>7911619
Colors are boring
Seeing the bing bing wahoo shit automatically turns me off whatever story this was supposed to be

>>7911619
I think the colors are alright since its a night scene, the paper effect you put on it is kind of too much, there might be other subtle ways to do it. Or at least tone it down, you want to add texture to the art but you can do that with thicker lines and darker black shadows (like putting black shadows between hte trees).

I bet it would look much better if you took where you added shading and just made it black like pen ink or heavy hatching.

>>7911619
I agree with >>7911632 about the texture.
I think a noise texture can add a nice touch to a digital piece, but it's too noticeably an applied texture in yours. Keep trying!

>>7911433
I am drawing a fetish manga so I doubt it will make it to shonen jump lol.

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>>7911556
>>7911570
Thanks guys
>if it's just this one page
Right now I don't know what it is. I'm just copying Dorohedoro pages with my own twist, and other things. But yeah, I will have to try out some more dynamic pages to feel confident about it.

>>7911506
No, I believe it. I'd say it's mostly culture that's putting the cabosh on it in a sense. Older people who probably have the money to put into this style of publishing probably have set in ideas about how to run it, set in ideas about where the money should go and who should keep the rights. It's not even as though we don't have enough artists- but they likely don't know where or how to find them. Honestly if I were tasked with it I wouldn't either. SatAM found some success by appealing to black weebs, but beyond that i'd say you're going to have a pretty hard time. Japan has an easy time because they're... y'know... homogenous, So you can easily divide things up by typical demographics: girl, boy, mature, and so on. Logistics are another issue (though I don't personally see what's wrong with throwing books at the checkout lane other than convincing stores to do it) In general when we're talking about how to appeal to a group it's an extreme mess.

Give it another 20ish years, you might see something just due to interest in drawing manga really hitting a stride. I just wouldn't expect anything great.

>>7911659
Ah, if a professional mangaka did it it's alright...
Yeah idk a lot of mangas have cheaply done pages that's not a secret lol. That's one way to save time and hit the quota. At least this time they drew actual backgrounds. AN actual background.

>>7911694
I think it looks good either way. Also, this is just Hayashida's style of... I don't know what to call it... cinematography? You can't really judge pages well in isolation like this it's somethat uncouth. Different if most pages feel the same with no variation.

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>>7911691
>checkout lane
This is a very old fashioned way of thinking. You assume young people go to the supermarket and look at what's on sale these days. They don't. They go in knowing already what they want to buy, and otherwise have their heads glued to their phones.
When it comes to buying new things, their decision is made on the internet. They don't look at billboards or flashy sales offers. Infact most young people don't even go to the checkout lane at all, they go to the self checkout, which doesn't even have a shelf of cash-grabby good likely because mostly young people don't buy it.

It's like if you have a failing circus and you think the best advertising strategy is to put 12 posters in the window of the closed down carpet shop down town.

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>>7911885
coint
If comics thought their problem was soley an advertising issue, then their solution is staring them right in the face, a big 100000 users a day solution, pic related.
Buy a comic, get bonus xp, or a cosmetic skin? They'd sell more comics in a day than they have in a year.

>>7911887
I think its more fundamental than that in the west. In order to enjoy comics you need to be capable of reading and understanding stories. That alone is a tall ask for american youth due to the double whammy of the government obliterating education and media corporations taking over culture.

It doesn't really matter if american comics are good or bad because the systems put in place two do things.
1. Discourage youth and young adults from reading or enjoying art.
2. Artists are discouraged from creating or finding success due to the forced slopification of everything.

>>7911885
i overheard some kids making fun of some other kid for having Prime, So i really don't know who the audience is for lmao

>>7911900
I don't think you need to be intelligent to read comics/manga, infact I think they're pretty much exclusively designed to be easy to read and every comic/manga writer repeatedly stresses the importance of making stories easy to read.
I think any story is about communication, and making that communication more difficult through the use of unnecessarily complex language is stupid.

Young people are the biggest demographic reading manga. Yes they get there exclusively through anime, but the fact remains, they are reading manga. Even in the west. The numbers are high enough to support the sales of huge numbers of manga tankobons in the west.

I'm not sure what you mean by your second post, do you mean that people aren't becoming artists at all, or that artists are pressured to make only slop?

But actually I think the problem is far simpler. I think it's very simply that the actual contents of these comics that aren't selling just aren't very good.
I think the reason why Marvel isn't taking advantage of its massive advertisement platform of Marvel Rivals and the MCU to advertise its comics is because they've determined that actually it would be a liability for them to do so, that the comics are so bad that even attempting to display them in their other products would actually harm those products.

>>7911907
The world moves fast for young people. Perhaps Prime is now last year's fashion and the kids who were gobbling it up before are not mocking it.

But the point is, nobody bought Prime because they saw it on the shelf. They bought it because they saw it on the internet.
It's the same thing with the Pokemon trend, people didn't suddenly decide to buy Pokemon cards because they saw them on the shelf at the store, they heard about it online and researched where to buy them.

>>7911913
>every comic/manga writer repeatedly stresses the importance of making stories easy to read.
As much as I wish this were the case, I don't think this is a common sentiment among "comic" authors. Manga, yes. Comics, not really. Probably helps explain the failing industry.

>>7911913
you are underestimating just how cooked america is on a reading and education level.

>>7911917
Yes I agree, but I mean to stress that, one of the causes of people not reading comics is not that people can't read, but that the comics are unreadable, by comic standards.
I expect a philosophy textbook to be hard to read, but I don't expect a comic to be hard to read. If an average teenager can't parse what's happening in a comic, that's the comic's fault, not the teenager's.

>>7911919
If those same Americans weren't actively reading manga by the millions I'd accept this as a cause for comics not selling, but it's very clear for all to see that Americans are capable of reading, they are simply choosing not to read comics but are reading manga instead.

>>7911921
I agree with you. And I believe >>7911919 is exaggerating. We're talking about literal picture books here brother. People are stupid, yes, but le brainrot is different from the actual medical intellectual disability you'd have to have to not understand clear enough pictures.

Actually can we stop this. A comics vs manga debate like this will swamp the thread and it's really not the place for it. We should stay focussed on the creation of comics/manga

>>7911927
I like the dark humor, it makes me want to see these guys get killed later and hooks me into her fate

>>7911926
I agree this is lame.

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>>7911927
we're so close to bridging the gap to the fight scene i drafted like a year ago.
>>7911937
Ta'

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>>7911885
You know i'm certainly not going to dictate what the solution is here cause I really don't know! The point still stands that people feel very lost when it comes to the where and how. Even animation studios are in a fit throwing up their hands facing a similar issue of their own. Times are uncertain.
My will to draw continues even so, here's something from my last chapter.

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>>7911927
>>7911939
I love your art man but when are they gonna fuck?

>>7911953
Nice man. Have you considered applying to a magazine before?

>>7911953
Yo! This is so dynamic and clean. Great stuff

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>>7911538
I did the mask totally wrong, it should have been simple. But I still need to figure out how to do midtones and transitional values in a way that looks good, even though I kinda like this calligraphy look. Either that or go heavier on the blacks.

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>>7911979
You lost alot of taste in the lines going from sketch to inks.
It could be many things that cause this, but one common thing is doing the inks with the pencils carrying too much of the weight of the picture, that is to say, the pencils look good, you add a few inks over the top of it and it sitll looks good, but once you erase the pencils, suddenly it doesn't look quite as good. It was the pencils that were still making the image look good even in the inking stage.

You have to make sure that when you are doing your inks, you are judging it by the inks alone, because once the pencils are gone, ink is all that remains.
The style of the pencils shows alot of very nice hatching, you should incorporate this into your inks.
One strategy is to deliberately draw less when doing the pencils and make more executive decisions with the inks. So the pencils will be just rough outlines of where lines need to be, but it is the inks that are the real drawing.

Whatever the case is, I think your pencils looked much better, you should try to bring that energy into your inks.

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Finished a 30-ish page dump
Current page count is 83(technically 89 but I had to combine my double spreads for convenience)

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>>7911992
I made a mood board of what I'm going for, but I can't decide which way I want to go yet. I think I either want it to look like very cartoony and linear like Wind Waker/this Bonk art/Hajime Ueda, or hatch-y but still graphic and linear like Jiro Matsumoto and Carlos Nine. Basically torn between hatching and a "paperdoll" look right now. If you know any artists like either or somewhere in between, I'm always looking for more inspo. Thanks for the detailed reply.

>>7911885
>actually using "self checkout"
Imagine doing the cashier's job for free

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>>7911887
This isn't some novel idea you came up with there... they make tie-in comics for video games. Overwatch in particular has an in-game browser and viewer for them. And they just recently launched a webtoon tie-in.
Honestly though I have no idea how big of a percentage of their users actually read this stuff, especially the material you have to pay for like the webtoons.

>>7911979
It looks like the paper you're using is very small. A sketchbook page from the looks of it? Inking, and particularly hatching tend to be easier when you use larger paper surface.

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last page of my next update.

>>7912026
stuff like this is always shit and boring though. That's my problem with comics like this. They might have good art but who cares about the story? There's manga that people commit murder over. Manga that people will literally base their entire life around, and the mangas are in black and white with nothing but gesture drawing and some screentones.

any time I see a fully colored comic like that image, my first thought is its boring and no emotion or soul, because they spent so much time making it look nice to give it value.

>>7912045
Sure the writing sucks but that's just an issue with Overwatch as a whole. The actual target audience laps it all up, I imagine.
I don't really know how important color is. Western publishers seem to be hell-bent on always having it there, out of inertia maybe, but at the same time the rip roaring global success of manga, in my mind, proves that the actual readers don't really care about color. I tend to opt for no color in my own projects as it's just another way to make it faster and less work and I like those really old black and white comics from like 70s and earlier anyway.

>>7912045
nta but I'm assuming the comic in >>7912026 is a comic made after Overwatch, featuring its characters and lore?
If so, then to me, this completely lacks passion.
When a mangaka makes a manga, it's not just a job, it's a story that resonates with their soul, it's their passion project. If their manga isn't popular and gets cancelled, the heartbreak isn't because they're out of a job, but because their baby has been killed.

And this isn't exclusive to manga, this applies to any form of creative endeavour where the person making it has pretty much full creative control.
But a comic like this.. this is just merchandise, no different than a tshirt.

>>7912052
>When a mangaka makes a manga, it's not just a job, it's a story that resonates with their soul, it's their passion project.
That's... an incredibly naive thing to say.

>>7912052
>When a mangaka makes a manga, it's not just a job, it's a story that resonates with their soul
>When master ping-pong sen-sei folds the entertainment product thousand times over he infuses it with the yo-kai of the ten thousand years baka desu!!
*doubt

>>7912057
99% of manga are someoens original idea, even if messed with by editors, they are reflecting that artist and writer's mind. Stop being pedantic

>>7912065
It's not pedantic to call you silly for assuming that mangaka as a rule are working on their passion projects. Some are. Some aren't. It's just incorrect to paint in broad strokes as you are.
If anything I'd wager a hell of a lot more of the western comics nowadays are pure passion projects, because there's a snowball's chance in hell of ever making a living from this shit.

>>7912070
If they're not working on their passion project, then what are they working on?

>>7912073
A commercial manga. For a living. They're making what sells, the alternative is just being unemployed.

>>7912075
And what is the content of that "commercial manga"?
Also nobody gets into manga for money, you literally make more working at mcdonalds

>>7912073
porn

>>7912075
you can have multiple passion projects of varying specialness

>>7912076
The content of that commercial manga is not what they're really passionate about. Again, it's naive to assume that because they're making it that they must be passionate about it. At the very least you should apply your own logic to western comics too.

>>7912079
Then the same applies for >>7912026