If you are a /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.DO NOT REPLY to crabs, nodraws, retards that whine about how hard drawing is or talent debates and instead focus on posted works!>STICKY:Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/viewNew collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Qw/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view>WHERE to get study materialsannas-archive.org>>>/ic/artbook>>>/ic/video>Want to practice figures?quickposes.comsketchdaily.netcharacterdesigns.comlovelifedrawing.composemy.artline-of-action.com>Post Your Work and give your feedbackWhat can be improved?Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.When receiving a critique, try to provide one in return>best art teachersGlenn VilppuMichael HamptonSteve HustonBrent EvistonMarco BucciAndrew LoomisGeorge BridgmanHikaru HayashiHide Sensei>best art booksKeys To DrawingDrawing With the Right Side of the BrainHow To Draw Comics the Marvel WayThe Art and Science of DrawingFramed PerspectiveFigure Drawing For All It's WorthThe Complete Guide to Drawing From LifePrevious thread: >>7912791
Draw this
just had wisdom teeth removed so havent drawn yet. maybe later today.but the other day i received my first commission.im still fairly new (havent even studied anatomy yet) so i was surprised someone wanted itbut any thoughts on what to work on for next time? also, good ways to really grow my following online to get more?
I'm still looking for critique and comment on my post here >>7915665 it would be very cool. When I get home today, I am going to draw more May probably.
>>7915791So repost the drawing here instead of someone else's art.
>>7915793Lmfao
Little doodle of my gf
>>7915784Cute
>>7915782Im 2 weeks into /beg/
>>7915822you're ngmi
>>7915822there's potential, but if this is your slop of choice, I advise you to buy a tablet and learn digital ASAP.
trying to get used to tablet
>draw traditionally>can hang my head over the paper and draw like that with no discomfort>try to draw on my ipad>discomfort in my upper left back after like 10 minutes trying to keep my back straight
>>7915849I don't wanna draw porn lol, though I am interested in using a tablet. Can I just hop to digital or should I work on fundamentals with paper and pencil
>>7915877I am sincerely impressed by the quality of your work but I have so many questions. In any case do you have a blog?
>>7915888Thank you very muchHere is my blog https://x.com/_NoConcession_
I am so uncomfortable doing values, especially with markers. I'm gonna spend the next few days pushing through and fucking it up
>>7915875Screenless?
>>7915887It's significantly easier to learn on paper and then transfer to digital unless you're spending big bucks on a good screen tabletAfter a month or two of paper you can reasonably start digital or just deal with the increased difficulty by bashing your skull open (even more than normal)
It took me 6 months to get used to digital.
>>7915767after 5 months of studying this im still awful at drawing. its over. goodbye.
>>7915912pyw
>>7915912Based.
>>7915911I am attempting to learn both at the same time by doing exercises twice: once on paper, once digital, to hopefully avoid this.
>>7915791You seem to be practicing multiple different parts of the body which is great but id try focusing on one part at a time until you feel you are better at it. For example that backshot looks really good but the head and face could look better. I’d recommend focusing on practicing portrait shots like you are doing there more
>>7915912Good. Prove everyone right. You're a failure. You're too weak. Go back to the cage, wagie.
>told to stop sketching in museum special exhibitlonghoused again. hard to find good sources for life drawing
Tried to make some studies more interesting
>>7915958wtf bro awesome ??
>>7915958what did you use to color?
>>79159583head lol. cool tho
>>7915965>>7915967>>7915975thanks guys :> just all different materials: Ohuhu marker, colored pencil, bic pen, some white gouache, and the blue splash i drop some ink from a height to get the splash effect, it did leak under the masking tape but tried to integrate it
>>7915958Great work, very impressive
finished this
>>7916003I like the color choices. Especially for eyes and hair combo.
>>7916003The sword seems super out of perspective compared to his hand
>>7916009No it doesn't.
>>7916024it actually does, the hand is turned in a way where the sword would come straight down and not to the sideor else the grip would be incredibly uncomfortable
>>7916025At this angle of the hand the sword would actually be pointing more toward the viewer.
>>7916030yeah, thats true
>>7916024It does. The sword is flat despite being under the horizon line for your drawing. We can see the bottom of the canisters (?) on his hips because that’s above the horizon line, so We should see the top of the sword and it should be pointing towards us since it’s beneath it
I got some nice paper but I'm scared to draw on it now
>>7916037So get some shit lined paper for babies and scribble on that until you get mad at the shit paper
>>7916037It's important to get good materials to help you take it more seriously. Good job. You should take a break and play video games for the rest of the day.
>>7916040That's what led me to this point
>>7916045You're not mad enough. Back to the baby paper with you for three more weeks.
markers
>>7915984At last, a real rival (someone as bad as me who also draws traditional)
>>7916048Nice hand and gesture.
>>7916050I'm getting better
>>7915958this is awesome! >>7916050thats a decent hand what are you talking about?
>>7916055>>7916058I didn’t mean to imply you were particularly bad, simply that A) he is roughly at my level B) this is the beginner thread, which we are both part of
>>7916053thanks! there are some glaring errors but movie stills are such good practice for natural poses>>7916003this pose reminds me of solo-leveling for some reason>>7915958these colors are beautiful
>>7916032i agree with you (original poster of the drawing), i'm not the guy you're replying to
>>7916058try getting a boyfriend so you can draw your male characters more attractively
>>7915812I did some logos
>>7916124Very /nodraw/ crab advice.You need to study anatomy and other artist to get good at drawing attractive males.
self portrait
>>7916124what is attractive to youand noi cant cheat on my hand>>7916129this>>7916062i hate to say it but you kinda did by saying >as bad as me>implying
It's okay my feelings aren't hurt. I know I will get better at drawing.
>>7916132i dropped this:this is beautiful <3
>>7916062/beg/ and /int/. And to be honest, the monkeyfaggot looks to be at least /int/. At least.
Taking the time to make accurate studies is just too tiring, you know?
>>7916159its soo cute :) i just wanna fart on it<3
was not feeling the best today, so i only did this really quick sketch so i can at least get a small feel. not a huge fan of how it turned out. will def try again tomorrowthis is the proko gestural architecture project.
>>7916128>>7916153>>7916154based morrowindchad
>>7916166
>>7912920gotten around to drawing these still lifes like anon did last thread. it's soul-sucking and profoundly unfun. how come his ones look more interesting? and that wooden texture on the bottom ball, how the fuck do you paint something like this without making a mess. everything smudges everything
>>7915600fun sketchin again today, imma jump into the actual artwork soon enough i think
>>7916193>how come his ones look more interesting?He used brighter colour
I've have been drawing for several years now and have finally made a piece I am satisfied with.If anyone wants art advice, feel free to use this post as an anchor.
>>7916193>it's soul-sucking and profoundly unfun
Damn. Nice drawings on OP pic. I like the soldier the most.
I don't know why I bother anymorenothing I post to socials gets likesI said I'd do it for a year but now it's been two and I'm still a nobody and make the worst art everI still draw for myself, but I don't want to be a nobody forever, I don't know what to do anymore
>>7916212They'll all be so jealous and feel bad when you get really good and famous. They will regret treating you like a nobody.
learning to paint, really happy with how it’s going so far
I'm finally getting good and learning how to draw. It's crazy what you can do when you stop talking yourself out of success and start doing the hard stuff you were avoiding. It turns out you can do more than you thought.
>>7916205damn you went for the perspective with the hand, respecti hope this helps brother
>>7916218ignore the arrow below the bony cheekbone text, idk why i drew an arrow there
>>7916218Omg we draw/write our a's the exact same
>>7916212It won't get any better my friend. It's not a (You) thing, the world is going into a weird soulless direction faster and faster, and they don't give a fuck about you. Best thing to do, is to enjoy art drawing whatever the fuck you want while you still enjoy drawing. Trigger people, go all out, put tolerance to the test, it's fun to know that you can say whatever the fuck you want in this particular period of time and nobody will give a FUCK, because everyone is too high on infinite doom scrolling trash dopamine. You could be screaming at the top of your lungs the most outlandish SHIT and no one will listen to you or care.It's a moment of absolute freedom, that it will not last too long, and it will not be repeated. The future will not care anymore for artists as it once did in the past. Society and cultural platforms in the foreseeable future will be alien to the people of today (us). Enjoy art now. Do whatever the fuck you want NOW, tomorrow you won't care anymore, same as the rest.
>>7916172>im ready to settle down
I haven't posted anything here in a while, but all of this progress is thanks to CasyTay who's helped me.
>>7916235I saw that.
>>7916003Did you use a 3D model on this?It matched the default pose almost exactly.>>7916024Perspective is definitely off. The only reason people are nitpicking something like this is because of the level of effort. If it was lower effort, the perspective mistakes wouldn't matter but because it looks like this was a lot of effort, the perspective mistakes stand out a lot more.
>>7916235I can see you improved a lot
>>7916237You could overlay a 3d model over so many illustrations and it would look close because the poses are so common.
>>7916237>doesn't even matchyou guys just wanna see that people cannot draw a decent figure. Go to /fig/ for a heart attack
>>7916243That /fig/ thread is fucking awesome, best thread in the board right now.
>>7916242Granted, it was just jarring that I barely moved the model and it already matched closely. This is also my absolute first time using the model in CSP.>>7916243Oddly defensive for a pose that supposedly doesn't match. It is also immediately obvious, so pointing it out explicitly just makes you look guilty. What's stopping you from changing the pose slightly?Mentioning /fig/ is doubly weird because the first thing you're supposed to do is gesture and this lacks any gesture. If you were to actually to do this pose, the shoulder would move too. This pose seems too stiff.Again, all of this is only mentioned because of the effort you put into it. Nobody would care if the stiffness was accompanied by a quick sketch or something like that. Not a completed drawing.
>>7916239>>7916236Thank you, I'm gonna try developing my own art style. I want to try experimenting with different ones. Anyone know a good resource?
>>7916255>Oddly defensive for a pose that supposedly doesn't matchI'm not him. As dead as /ic/ is, we're not alone here. The thing about /beg/ that really irks me is that they always see 3d, traces and AI. It's a bad cope. Your own picture doesn't support your suspicion.Ofc I'll look real stupid when he comes out to say he did indeed use a 3d character - but he wouldn't need to.> it already matched closely.you people...
>>7916270the next thing is gonna be references being unethical
>>7916270>heThat's a woman artist. I recognize her style from other things she has posted in /wao/.
>>791627399% of /wao/ are men in skirts
>>7916276I didn't realize they did a census.
>>7916278Shame you missed it else it would have been 99.6%
>>7915812>>7916127Gib feedback
>>7916282I don't like it. Something about the first one especially feels off, but I can't put my finger on it. Sorry I can't be of help. It comes naturally to me to feel a good work and I'm getting an off feel for yours.
>>7916127>>7915812>>7916282This is good shit. You have talent, Escape this board while you still can.
Bossu
Today’s life drawings
I miss believing that if I did enough practice I'd eventually be able to draw
>>7916297
>>7916296hot>>7915782why
How does one make porn art more INTENSE and like sloppy/intimate? Does it just come with time because I feel all my NSFW just feels like two people vaguely interacting esp when it's supposed to be post-nutWhen I go on rule 34 for ref they always seem freakier than what I make and idk how they do it. I tried to replicate what I saw with the nut, the tears, the breath, the sweat the whole 9 yards and I still feel it isnt doing what I expected
>>7916303
>>7916212Post your socials
i notice too late the proportion of the torso was a little bit off but meh
>>7916324The proportion of something else is a bit off too…
>>7916325...the left foot?
>>7916326I was referring to his gargantuan member
Fuck you fuck you fuck you you god damn asshole mother fuckers your thread is stupid and your stupid and I hate you
>>7916297This one's pretty cool, something about the posing, how you defined the shapes and framing all make the scene read as calm and cozy.
>>7916327yeah i know anon i was fucking with you
>>7916324the leg over the other that way looks really damn uncomfortable for someone that looks comfortable
>>7916329Hey man fuck you too >:(
im the worst artist on this board
>>7916336no joke i thought this was AI
>>7916333for being the first time ever drawing a pose like that i expect it to be worse
>>7916338lol it does kinda look like that
>>7916341yeah, i hate being a cunt and all, the issue is that there are some inconsistencies and odd details, for example the legsif we compare the legs, one is correct, the left leg, but the right leg is completely odd when focusing on the kneecap and the ankle, the ankle's detail made me think this was AIthe kneecap on the right is very odd and that made me think that the knee was facing the other way away from the camera lmaothe hands are off proportions with each other, the left arm/hand should be 'fading' into perspective, so it'd look smaller compared to the right, but it's the oppositebut dude, you got something going, you got the style and the art doesn't look bad at all, just some details are off when putting your eyes on it, it's some inconsistencies, even with her heels design being sort of different with eachother for exampleit's very assymetrical, even the wrists are different because of the bracelet
>>7916345thats what happens when i just follow the arleady schizophrenic sketchI think i should play into it though
>>7916347That’s right there’s no one close to being as bad as he is he should kill himself to death asap
Tips for mimicking the painted cel look digitally?>inb4 /asg/This board is ded and that shitty general is even more ded. My first thought was hrb but it's too sterile.
>>7916330Thanks anon, that’s exactly how I want them to make the viewer feel
>>7916129Retard, you learn the best from drawing from life. Unironically you can learn from drawing your partner naked posing for you than some random tutorials online as long as you know how to use your damn eyes and brain.
>>7916373Yeah but you look at a man differently after he’s cum all over you.
>>7916373No u You retarded I dont need a girl friend in order to draw attractive females.
>>7916383Very true. But what I said was the ideal case, in many cases you can seek out statues figures etc... Most of what people struggle with is perspective and form, so drawing something with actual 3d form into 2d is the best practice IMO
I drew naked raidenI wanted to practice doing the abs and upper body so I kinda phoned in the lower body and Idk really how to draw the legs yet.This was fun though
>>7915912Did you try drawing for fun even once during those 5 months of studying, anon?
>>7916257Developing your own style is an emergent property of copying things that you like. Find two or three different artists and imitate their work regularly. Make sure you are aware of what you like specifically about their work and actively integrate it into your own. For example, I like Gege Akutami. I copy a lot of panels from JJK for fun between studies. Over time, I notice I've picked up the messy, scratchy nature of the lines used by that particular artist that they use to define forms at times. Pic related.>>7916312You'll find more success trying to tell short stories with your work. Most NSFW art isn't particularly interesting in a vacuum unless the composition or rendering is striking. Try expanding your ideas to 3 or 4 panels to build tension towards the intimacy. >>7916359No idea what hrb means. Looks fine to me anon. Keep doing what you're doing, especially if you're literally reference animation cels to get an idea of what to focus on
>>7915767Why is the OP filled with /int/ works?Where are the /beg/tokens?
my e-gf left me so im back here
>>7915767>https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/viewDiscord invite is dead.>annas-archive.orgDead link>https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?viewYou don't have permission to access this resource. >https://sketchdaily.net/Dead link
>>7916421>hbrHard round brush
>>7916312>How does one make porn art more INTENSE and like sloppy/intimate?Text. It's why variant sets can be effective. Having a little narrative with your smut always works.
>>7914189still going
>>7916380Found the problem. Try cumming all over him next time instead.
does pirated csp embed something in your exported images to let people know that it was made with pirate csp?
>>7916471no
>>7916169very clear shapes and nice line weight>>7916296awesome, love it>>7916425>he doesn't have permission to the hardcore stickyskill issue
>>7916273Probably why (she) got so offended. Like I said in the other thread, it's amazing how much of a pussy artists are. They act like drawing takes a lot of discipline for them when in reality, they're too weak for actual discipline. Anyone who started drawing as a kid used zero discipline to get good.>>7916270>it doesn't match the 3D model exactly therefore no 3D model was usedStill with this bullshit?Even /beg/ can slightly change a pose to appear as if they didn't use ref/ai/bases, albeit they won't do it as well as more experienced cheaters.Anything drawn digitally will be scrutinized like this. It's very easy to cheat your way to competence with tools. If this was a traditional drawing, no one would say anything. Even I would just admit defeat and admit I was wrong. But so long as it's digital, there's always a risk of cheating. The fact that it closely matches the model just makes it suspicious. Not saying they did it, it's just suspicious.
Any good rendering / color resources for retards? I've tried reading James Gurney's books and random Youtube resources, but I find that my colors always end up feeling muted. Also, feel like I've been stuck in a plateau for a good while due to taking the easy way out and mostly just doing eye-level / frontal perspective of characters, so I tried something else here.Any other pointers also appreciated.
>>7916483Another earlier drawing.
>>7916048same movie, different scene https://www.moviestillsdb.com/movies/the-heartbreak-kid-i68687>>7916436oh. then yeah, hard round brush is typically king for most work.>>7916483>>7916484I think you're doing fine so far. It's easy to tell you have a lot of the knowledge to inform setting up your values which is easily the most important thing in rendering or coloring. I don't think your colors are muted, but you can always check with a grayscale filter. Keep working at it. Your skills will get sharper as you keep working at it. You know some areas of weakness with your posing or composition, so keep pushing in that area while also maintaining what you know about your values
>>7915767>See an artist on X I like>About to download their entire gallery>Found out that wfdownload doesn't work on twitter anymorewhat the fuck mananyone else knows of a sustitution?
>>7915767spent a long time tweaking these to get the right proportions. mostly happy with them now. going to make floor plans for the great fox scaled at this size.
I downloaded a lot of courses today. I feel overwhelmed.
just a few more course and ref dumping and i'll just be like the old masters.........
>>7916421>Looks fine to me anon. Keep doing what you're doingLMAO I wish that was my art. It's a scan of one of the Ghost in the Shell cels.
>>7916514would you share an example of you trying cel shading then?>>7916493what kind of project are you working on with these?>>7916502theory is great, but practice makes progress. spend more time doing than watching videos or reading content.
>>7916411when you removed his androgyny you lost the last thing your drawing still could've had - soul
>>7916519i have a friend in poland who makes me 3D spaceships and i make floor plans for them based on internal mapping that he makes me.the great fox would be the largest ship i've made to date, but it would require a very small resolution. i normally work in 5 or 4 centimeters er pixel.
>>7916335I’m sorry.
>>7916483Omg that is a cute little fairy! Can you draw a little spider girl too?
Back at this after a looooong break. My memory (both muscle and mental) seems to have degraded quite a bit. This one was a "top of my head" quick sketch.
>>7916482are you fucking retarded? i'm the original poster of >>7916003, i'm not the other person you're replying to. in a previous message i literally said i agreed with the critique. >>7916237i didn't
>>7916003Aren't Yeager
>>7916003as I said before, the shoulder is a bit too pushed away from the body, but now that I see more, I think the hands are also a bit small, but otherwise, p gud job
how do i make a good pressure curve to avoid having to press super hard but also to avoid stuff where the point where the beginning point of the line from where you set the tip is very sensitive and blows up like pic related before functioning like normal afterwards?
>>7916489>>7916543Thanks! I don't know if I have time to draw anything today, as I'm going to sauna at my bro's place.
>>7916451
>>7916576Make sure you draw you and your bro having sex when you get a chance
>>7916483>>7916484Thanks! I'm going to steal your ideas and redraw them myself for my own fairy and anubis girl :3
>>7916571nigga your pressure sensitivity doesnt work at all lol
>>7916571Don't have it start at zeroDon't have it be that steepDon't have it be 90+% for >60% of the curveHope this helps
Digital is easier.At least it FEELS easier. It won't make you go from /beg/ to /int/ but it's a far less frustrating medium to work on. I think pro artists are right when they say that the traditional medium is the best to learn on. But I think that if you're drawing less because you're constantly frustrated while drawing traditionally, that becomes a moot point. Anything that gets to you to draw more is always going to be preferred over the "correct" way to learn.I am especially proud of my foot drawing. I guess those 50+ feet drawings payed off. The funny thing about that is that those were all done digitally at the time. I never drew a single foot traditionally. Yet, I show more competence in drawing feet than basically anything else. Comparatively, of course. And maybe that's what I got wrong the whole time. I was drawing lips and noses all traditionally but what I probably should've done was draw them digitally. I might've actually shown improvement rather than what you see here. I guess it's not completely awful but I'm very unsatisfied with my progress so far. Especially considering the amount I did. For 200 lip drawings, I should NOT feel uncomfortable drawing them. It should only take less than 150 iterations. Though now that I think about it, this comes from my digital drawing days. So maybe drawing digitally actually helps you improve FASTER. Interesting...Anyway, I will be drawing eyes almost exclusively digitally. Fuck the post-its. If I am to do anything traditionally, it will be for Observational Training ONLY. I'll make another post later today detailing how my training will progress regarding that. However, when it comes to basically everything else, we're migrating completely over to digital.At home I have an XPPen Artist 13.2 v2 and I'm quite satisfied with it. If I stick with drawing for another month, I'll purchase a portable tablet so I can take it to work with me to draw on my breaks. Trad Version: https://o.uguu.se/zAqzaDNP.png
>>7916618i'm a dumbass and thought it would just make pressure not increase brush size for a set amount rather than making it start immediately at a certain size
>>7916627idk what youre talking about but this line literally has no sensitivity its all same width
>>7916630because i wasn't even trying to vary the pressure for that line. it was just for example to show the rest of the line compared to the start point
>>7916632idk what youre trying to achieve the point is only that you can comfortably go to max pressure without tiring yourself, its supposed to be the base you can comfortably go to when linearting
>>7916626you are symbol drawing, anon. you're supposed to learn the basic three-dimensional shapes (cylinders, boxes, spheres) and use them as a template to draw complex stuff like facial feautres on
it is very strange when i visit Pinterest and browse same genre for few times some how deviant art knows it and recommends that genre. coincidence?
accidentally gave it bangs
>>7916637Omg that is a cute foxy. Can you paint a cat next?
>>7916626>car, foot fetishist Lmao based
>>7916638maybe tomorrow i’m dead tired from work
>>7916638I remember I did my cat in oils but I’m no longer arsed to work on it or fix it. I kinda don’t like how oils flow
>>7916634This advice sounds nice but it doesn't actually work.You can't just say, "don't draw symbols, draw cubes!!" and somehow that immediately clicks.In order to be able to draw in 3D you need to first be able to observe. Without observational ability, how would I be able to notice how the eye lids wraps around the eyeball? If I can't see it or understand it, then I can't draw it. This is often taken for granted by artists who have been drawing their whole life. They assume everyone can see these things. But it often takes several drawings before a beginner notices something that was immediately obvious to the artist who has been drawing their whole life.These are from imagination but if I were to draw these from reference, my eye drawings would still look like symbols because I haven't drawn enough eyes. I can use tricks to make it appear 3D but that doesn't mean I'm actually thinking about it in 3D. In order to think of something in 3D, you need to first have accurate proportions of the thing you're trying to make 3D. If you're struggling with proportion, forcing your brain to try to make it 3D is going to be too much for it to handle and you'll wear yourself out.So the first thing I should be doing is getting the proportions correct. Then and only THEN could I transform it into a 3D object. Trying to do both at the same time without internalizing proportion is far too difficult for a beginner. Also, you can see I'm trying to think in 3D with the hand by making it a cuboid shape. You can see the wrapping lines I put on it. So it's not that I'm trying to symbol draw, it's that my ability to draw certain things is so shit that making it 3D is the least of my worries.>>7916639Thanks! I'm quite happy with how that foot came out.
>>7916645do you have a favorite artist?
>>7916646No, I have a relatively small folder of inspiration but I wouldn't say any of them in particular is my favorite. Azumanga is the closest to what I'd like to do if you're wondering what I'm going for.
>>7916645I know it's easier said than done but I think it's better if someone learns about it (just to have it as a goal, not to completely grasp the concept) early than to draw for years without knowing why they aren't improving (me during high school)
>>7916648Maybe awareness of the concept is useful but I would stop at telling people grind cubes/cylinders/etc.When I was drawing lips, it took about 72 drawings before I could FEEL the lines I was drawing wrapping around the form. Before that, I was just copying what I was looking at.I think that's the point I'm trying to get at.And maybe you're right, you probably should learn about it as early as possible. Even in that case, I probably wouldn't have felt what I felt had I known nothing about form or perspective. It's hard to say.I wish there was a singular path that you take to get good at drawing. Like guaranteed. "Learn these things at ANY skill level and you will improve!" But I can't seem to figure it out. A lot of the things I figure out is often based off of an amalgamation of several different tutorials and artbooks that comes as a moment of eureka while I'm drawing.I am trying to figure out the way to learn that has the least amount of resistance. Because I burned out, I need to do it this way. I don't have the luxury of being able to grind like I used to before I burned out.
>>7916653
>>7916655what is this?
>>79166563 body problem
>>7916656archive purposes probably
>>7916656I can search for my posts more easily on warosu. This is especially helpful for drawings that I don't save on my computer.
>>7916484What's your blog, anon? I wanna know who to credit when I draw my version
>>7916652you're giving me headache man.
>>7916663it's a troll, anon. you're being trolled
>>7916662You're posting in it.
>>7916665I want your social media not 4chan, baka
>>7916634Is symbol drawing ok if I want to invent minimalist chibilike abstract creatures? Or in this case it's even worse? I don't really understand what this means btw.
>>7916671chibi are flat figures by design so no, but while they have their charm they're also very limited composition-wiseyou can't look at them from above or below, for instance, only from the front. when you draw an anime lady with proper 3d shapes in mind, you can pose her in any way and it will still make sense
>chibifucker iit
>>7916663You made me realize something.Drawing digitally is like typing on a keyboard for writers.Sure, an aspiring writer COULD learn to write using a notebook but that's an extremely inefficient way to learn how to write. It is also theoretically the best way to learn how to write but it's also the most painful.No wonder drawing traditionally was so hard. That comparison was like a eureka moment for me. It's not that I hate drawing, it's that I hate the inefficiency of drawing traditionally. And while I do love writing traditionally, that only encompasses about 1-2% of my total writing. The rest is completely digital.This also explains why I actually had (some) fun doing the digital drawings I did while I loathed the traditional drawings. I could be wrong but I don't even think it's worth pursuing drawing/art if you don't have a digital tablet. It's simply far too inefficient and unfun. If someone told me I HAD to write traditionally in notebooks, I would've fucking hated it, too!Don't listen to this anon: >>7916664, they're /nodraws/ that hope you fail.
>>7916677stuff like that is very appealing but you notice the symbol drawing ends at the head and face. the rest of the body is fairly 3dI assume anon meant the creatures from pic related when he said 'minimalist'
Help, I need directions.I've decided to start learning how to draw and got a digital tablet for it, but it feels like having to eat an elephant with fork and knife by doing it alone, and I'm pretty clueless and lost.From reading and watching the resources in OP I'm getting the idea I have to get really strong fundamentals, but I'm not sure how to structure my day and what to study in order to become really good. I've already tackled perspective and a little of human anatomy on my own, and tried to fix my lines, but it's really a lot and I'm still terrible at taking proportions, I'm very slow, I'm not sure how to find resources that would help me improve, etc. I'm also poor and can't afford IRL lessons or anything, so I'd like to join a study group, but since I want to get into drawing lolis and body horror I think I'd fit only with other deviants from here.Can someone help me out?
>>7916688>but it feels like having to eat an elephant with fork and knife by doing it alone, and I'm pretty clueless and lost.eat it alone.
>>7916676By chibis I mean general minimalist smol characters, like >>7916677, but also like picrelated.Maybe it's incorrect to even call that chibi, but smol + minimalistic is how I understood the term.>>7916677Nice.
>>7916689That's the plan.Any tips for the cooking and seasoning?
My art is getting worse. It's pissing me off.
>>7916692we are /video/ general search it up.
>>7916690Another example:https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xo6nVZq7iLAIs texture painting here "symbol drawing", but modelling not?This gets very confusing in 3dcg context especially.
>>7916698This?https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Ya4y1q7pw/?spm_id_from=333.1387.collection.video_card.click
>>7916706Nice Epstein in the top right
>>7916690yeah that's not chibi really, just stylization. there are '3d chibi' like those from blue archive but the proportions aren't that of your picwell if that's your goal, then you'll have to learn to feel the form properly, anon. there is a lot of subtlety in that >>7916677 drawing hinting at 3d shapes>neck appears offcenter to the shoulder to hint at the S-curve of the torso>torso goes in front of left upper arm but behind the left lower arm>bandages wraps around the limbs as ellipses, etcif you have trouble understanding what symbol drawing means, think of the egyptian hieroglyphs, where the heads are drawn in side profile but the eyes are drawn like in a front shot then the bodies are drawn from the front despite the head, etc. the perspectives don't match
>>7916699Symbol drawing is mostly considered bad for beginners because, like most rules, they don't understand them so they don't know when and when not to use them. Putting a hyper-realistic animal eye or human eyes on this would probably be harsh on the style intended here. So, I think yes? It is symbole drawing? In a way. There is no attempt at trying to portray depth.But the real question is; is your art advanced enough to weaponize something you were taught to not indulge in? Akin to artists shading with black.
>>7916704>>7908289
>Reporting in
>>7916716I meant to ask, anon. UhWho exactly is this person that you always draw? Also good job on the hand it looks like it has depth. And really impressed with your persistence.
>>7916719Scariest part of this anon actually developed a art style.
>>7916719Thank you. That is really nice of you to say. She is my character and she is in the Finnish military. I like drawing her stories there
>>7916680I've seen many of your drawings and they're complete trash. Switch to tablet if you want but it's not going to change that you can't draw. It is what it is.
>>7916709>>7916710Thanks for insights anons, I mostly want to learn this area of drawing for the sake of improving my 3d. In 3d, I mostly do simple stylized environmental stuff, but now I also want to make some characters and I think it would be ideal to be able to learn 2d sketching in certain styles to come up with interesting designs. So I'm trying to understand what is my scope and what I should focus on. I wonder if I need to learn proper 2d perspective for example, because it seems really hard and I'm already doing 3d so maybe I can keep perspective there and just use 2d to play with those stylized ideas, but on the other hand, without 2d perspective my sketching and ideas may be limited.
>>7916546total art skill death
>>7916716losing feet to gangrene speedrun
>>7916765no shit
>>7916759What is?
>>7916764>>7916765Oh no :/Her jeans aren't meant to be so tight they make her feet hurt. The jeans are supposed to have a band at the lining so socks don't ride up or down and when wearing boots the hem stays in place, but I know that makes them look tighter than they are
>>7916688you arleady mog us
Hand and face practice
>>7916724I really like this
Testing out my new markers and fineliners
>>7916727One day pleaseMake a combination of all the drawings you’ve done of her in order to. I would love to see something like that
>>7916811I second this, >>7916727it would be nice to see your advancement in your art. I am perplexed and oddly curious about this character. I swear I thought she was some pre-existing IP, so kudos on that.
>>7916729Eyes are where I throw in the towel.Lips weren't too bad, noses made no fucking sense, but eyes are where I have to give up. Not on drawing, just on the Portrait Project. I think Portraiture is the hardest mode. Even learning to draw hands isn't as hard as learning to draw the face. You can trace hands and make them look pretty good. You can try and trace a face all you want but if you don't know instinctively what lines to exclude or what to add, it'll always look like shit.So I'm giving it up.No more portraiture.Instead, we're going to focus on Symbol Drawing. We're going /asg/ in this bitch. But specifically focusing on faces in anime. Basically the route that every weeb adult takes when they first learn how to draw. It's the path of least resistance and will at least get me to the point where I can make something that looks decent without months of virtually zero improvement.The only problem I have now is figuring out what style I'm going to yiff. 90s anime? Teekyuu? What style do I want to emulate?If I'm thinking about my goals in art, I want to emulate the style that can transition easily to comedy. So that probably means I can't do those moe, kawaii AF, animes that are slice of life or romance. Not that they can't be comedy but that the style doesn't lend itself to comedy.I might not even do anime. I might go Jack Hamm on my meat and do classic cartoons instead. The point is to NOT learn drawing correctly. Fuck perspective. Fuck form. Fuck all of that. We're doing it completely "wrong." What this will do is either show me just how much I really need the fundamentals, or if I'm right, get me to the point where I can actually draw something that looks decent. Either work for me. Honestly, anything that gets me to draw more works for me. That's the most important thing after all.https://files.catbox.moe/dhxgzp.jpg>>7916729I did mention this point exactly in my 2500 word essay. I would suggest giving it a read. It should enlighten you.
Genuinely what the fuck is the difference between flow and opacity? I understand that flow is sort of supposed to be conceptually choking the flow of an airbrush, and opacity would be the thickness of the paint. But how does that actually map to how the properties actually work? I can't tell the difference between the opacity brush, the flow brush and the flow-opacity brush
>>7916758nice, but wtf even is this reference??
>>7916821I'm glad you're doing this instead of torturing shelter animals, bro
>>7916809thanks. its actually from last year, i should do a newer one with some other cowboy motif. maybe bill miner
All these human faces and anatomy and shit and I'm over here drawing a fucking ANT
>>7916823nta Anime Kigurumi. Look it up you uncultured swine. Do it.
>>7916840very neat lines
>>7916841the legs/ass look too smooth to be a real person though, unless that's also part of the costume
>>7916840ANTS DONT GET YOU LIKES ON INSTAGRAM
>>7916680>Drawing digitally is like typing on a keyboard for writers.not really, its a dumb analogywe dont value authors for their handwriting / typing skills. handwriting/typing is simply a means to an end, drawing is an end in and of itself.
>>7916843Thank you! I get told that a lot and I wonder what everyone else sees. I'm trying replicate my bullshit I do with mechanical pencils.>>7916848B B B BUT
>>7916850You're misconstruing the analogy.There is no difference between writing by hand and typing things out other than the amount of effort it takes.There is also no difference between drawing digitally and drawing traditionally other than the amount of effort it takes.Both will give you basically the same exact result.>we dont value authors for their handwriting / typing skillsNeither do we value artists for their drawing skills. We value them for the end result. That's all that matters.The only time drawing skill ever matters would be within very specific spaces of learning drawing. That's why normies never gave a shit about Kim Jung Gi but other artists glazed him.
>>7916811>>7916819I have made many drawings of her. I'll try to make a full compilation of all her stories some day that's in order. I'm really glad you like her :D
>>7916857nice handswhy does she have huge tits but is wearing an elementary schoolkid backpack?
>>7916858Thank you. This was an older drawing of her I made some months ago. That is meant to be M05 backpack, but It does have similar flat back that prevents bulging
currently working on this and would like some feedback on the rendering.. does it look ”overworked”?
>>7916865this style is so inspiring to me and the rendering looks so effortless and organic compared to mine. how can i achieve this?
>>7916821You may be onto something. Most artists admit that backwards path in their journey. Everyone says that, "I started with anime-comics and then I re-started my art education with proper traditional methods and refs". There must be a reason for that. Maybe it is meant to be like that. Like when we are kids we all start drawing in that weird "picasso" style, there's no other way to begin.
>>7916868Look up Chinese rendering videos on youtube and that one Chinese tiktok site.
>>7916857how long have you been drawing now?
>>7916891I think it's been about year and a half soon
>>7916871Artists often say, "I should've done X" referring to anatomy or fundamentals, but I think that if they actually were to do those things early on, they wouldn't have drawn as much as they did.What always gets me is artists who have barely any grasp on perspective or form who can make good artwork. They show their ability to draw a box and it's fucking horrendous yet they can make something that looks visually appealing. Why the fuck am I grinding boxes then???There has to be something to doing things the wrong way and I aim to figure it out.As I always say:>It is better to learn drawing incorrectly and fix your bad habits later than it is to attempt to learn drawing correctly and quit because it's too dull.
>>7916876>Chineseno thank you
>>7916910Become the render monkey and make render money
Are these dumb drills really useful?
>>7916915Nah it's a cope. Skip it and start with anatomy if you want to make it.
>>7916915Yes of course. These are the types of exercises that will make you a better artist, unironically. Not something to be doing 24/7 but good help nonetheless
>>7916915Yes and no.For drawing, mastery of actual motor skills is important, but the actual "what am i drawing" part of drawing dictates the usage of lines. Think of it in terms of an engine vs a car. You can have a whole car (mental skill, aka; observation, imagination, spatial sense, appealability, etc), but if it doesn't have an engine in it (mechanical motor skills, or a proper engine in it that fits the rest of the car's specs), it isn't going to drive - or drive that well at all, no matter how much the car has a "technical" superiority.And vice versa, having a top of the line engine without having a car to put it into will just make it rust on a rack and not get used.The key is to find a good balance in between the car and the engine, not perfection.
>>7916915You gotta do it 1000 times for it to work. 1000 times of FUN! Get to it anone!
why do scrotes always use car analogies
>>7916915Motor skills are very important, but they're also very basic. Which is why many retards say that isn't helpful.But if you need to hone your motor skills, accuracy and get lines, that does help - just not with drawing itself.
I'm going fucking crazy how do I draw the arms from the wrist to the shoulder from this angle without making it look fucked
>>7916823>>7916841>>7916847Doll actually. Been collecting pictures of japanese dolls/figurines for a while (around 9k now) off of twitter as "2.5d" references. The more clothes, expensive attachments (like complete posable hands instead of premade ones) and camera trickery, the less obvious the doll joints.
>>7916930Want me to explain it in terms of a kitchen oven and a frying pan instead? You might be more familiar with those
>>7916946Neh, the modern one doesn't know how to cook or clean. Explain with Facebook/instagram metaphors instead, and smart phones.
>>7916336sex with this cow>>7916421sex with this reptile
Bringing these to work so I can work on them in my lunch break. When I have time, I want to do multiple versions of the same eye in my networking textbook just to get the symbols down. I think I'm pretty good at remembering symbols so these should be useful anytime I need to draw an eye. I'll probably do like a hundred of them and pick like a dozen of my favorites to use from imagination anytime I'm drawing. That way I can have something decent looking. The eyes make or break a drawing so this part is important. I wouldn't be surprised if I need to spend a few weeks on this.>But you're symbol drawing!!Yes.>>7916915No, I did those and didn't improve at drawing. They're good when you're already pretty good at drawing and want more confident lines but they're not going to make you any better at drawing stuff as I erroneously thought. If your drawings look like shit, you're only going to have shit drawings with confident lines.>>7916945There was someone on Instagram I followed that used to pose these dolls in cool places. I didn't draw at the time so they weren't for reference, I just genuinely thought it was cool. I think these are way better than that other weird shit the other anon was talking about.>>7916946KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK"""foids""" eternally BTFO'd
How many heads to I have to draw before I get anywhere? Also any advice on upturned heads?
>>7916974Wrong pic, this ones mine.
wip >>7916840>>7916851These are really cute
>>7916978wow I’m a retard I forgot to post the pic
>>7915767More fried chicken studies
something
>>7916976>>7916974Are you familiar with, "the 10,000 hour rule?"
>>7916989Oh so only 3.4 years of treating this like a full time job and I'll have mastered this skill. Shorter than I thought.
>>7916986better something
>>7916995it's giving sex offender sneaking into the women's restroom vibes
>>7916989It's not "do something for 10k hours to get decent at it" I know that much
>>7917000she is definitely transgender but I was going more for sad and suicidal than like. sex offender
FUCK!
Still workin on it. Acrylics. No idea how to make tiny plants and foliage.
>>7916296>>7916336Socials?
>>7916688if you drop your @ on Discord I'll friend you and invite you to a few private and public art servers that could be right up your alley
>>7916665All right wise guy! Then im stealing your cute OCs and post on social media >:C
>>7917026i am your dad
>>7916484Built for bearing a brood
self learning vs univershittywhat is better?
>>7916876ok i will try, i will be back and update how it goes
>>7915809So a couple of things, your 'GF' has a suspiciously looking bulge which to be fair could be loose fabric just bunched up in that area and either a septum ring or a poorly rendered philtrum. I think if you improve upon those 2 things, she's actually kinda cute. Reminds me a bit of that girl Samantha from stir of echoes. Heres a (you) for your efforts.
>>7917091whatever helps you reach your goal. what do you want to do? the answer to where will by deduction and logic get you to the hows and whens and whatnot. aim for a target and then do everything needed in order to achieve it.
>>7917098I just curious is universities gatekeeping knowledge?
>>7917110the pencil and paper will teach youall there is to know
>>7917025Thanks anon.panopticoom
>>7917123thanks! now I will raid you.
I swear to god they’re actively trying to kill the site with the new captcha>>7917110Not really no. The only good thing about art school is that it forces you to draw a lot. Other than that it’s pretty worthless. They’re not hiding any secret knowledge
The gap between how well I can draw hands and how well I can draw other stuff is starting to get pretty noticeable...
>>7916938Idk but here’s the version I attempted
>>7917148Time to practice hands then?
>>7917155Don't wanna
>>7916599In the end, it turned out a bit flat
>>7917163nice
>>7916304>>7916481Thanks frens
>>7916483Marco Bucci videos are pretty great for color in general. For a rendering process, This video is pretty great. Otherwise, taking courses and doing a variety of exercises will broaden your understanding of concepts.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ5QF0q4QqQYou'll notice this is a pretty universal process. You'll see a lot of different flavors of (1) block-in -> (2) average light/shadow shapes -> (3) middle value -> (4) bounced light -> (5) occlusion shadow -> (6) highlights -> (7) refine/overpaint. Understanding modelling factors helps with this. Some steps can combine or be done simultaneously like (1,2) or (2,3). Getting real comfortable at each step before including the next tends to help prevent frustration. So if you suck at block-ins then you're going to have a bad time doing the rest because the foundation isn't so good. The stronger your ability to observe and perceive different concepts in a subject, the more informed your drawing can be.>>7916960Big feet for the footfags>>7916868By making bold decisions and letting a mark or combination of marks imply the subject. The braid and horns are very good examples of this. Stopping yourself from overworking the drawing and letting randomness exist helps with this. Otherwise rendering is can be done the same way as the video above. https://youtu.be/PctU97-4Jv8?si=uSaAJ8LfGTNQbqoM&t=56I know Sam might be a bit grating for some, but the rednote video he did has plenty of examples exactly like how Bucci shows. From the timestamp in Sam's video, look for process similarities in the next 2 exemples (dress and button-up shirt).
I CAN FINALLY FUCKING DRAW!At least it feels like I "get it" now, not that I'm good at it.When I made this drawing, as bad as it is, it made me realize a few things.>1. I was way too harsh on myself.>2. I prioritized the final result rather than focusing on the improvement I made.>3. My technique was completely wrong.On the first point, I was judging myself using a pros standard while not having put in the amount of hours a pro did. This is obviously unfair. How will I be able to do the things that people spent thousands of hours doing in just a few hundred? If I too had thousands of hours, THEN it would be different. But I haven't drawn as much as I should have drawn to warrant such harsh criticism from myself. Instead, as I stated in point 2, I should have focused on the improvement I made since last week or last month. This is a far better and more measurable metric than, "I'm not as good as Shadman still! I'm so bad!!" This was exacerbated by point 3, which was my technique being completely fucking wrong. Even pros need to use the block in method sometimes to make sure they get accurate proportions yet I thought, as a /beg/, I was going to yoink the proportions from thin air with little friction.All in all, I think drawing is both hard and easy. Kinda like how I am with your mom.It's hard in the sense that you have to do a hundred different skills at the same time to get anything good but easy in the sense that those hundred different skills aren't particularly difficult to learn. It just takes a lot of time and iterations to learn them.At home, I've begun tracing to get a general idea of where I'm at with my drawing ability. It's not 100% tracing, it's more like 20/80, tracing/drawing. Since I focused so much on proportions, my actual drawing ability is almost non-existent. So I might be able to put down the proportions relatively accurately but after that, I'm completely lost. How do you make something look good? That's what I want to figure out.
>>7917176>1. I was way too harsh on myself.This alone will drive you insane and make you quit drawing.One thing I always tell people getting into drawing is not to spend too much time seething about the results. You draw, it’s shit, and you learn from it.
>>7917176>How do you make something look good? That's what I want to figure out.Keeping your lines simple and as long as possible. Notice how even though I've traced over your rough keeping the proportions about the same, it comes out looking more... graceful and rhythmic by comparison. Even though the legs are too long and the foot is clipping into the shin, you still have lines of relatively nice quality. Learning about rhythm while locking in your observations may be the next step for you. That or just general line quality and confidence. Use plumb lines often and keep checking your work
>>7917182whoops wrong image
>>7916989>>7917002>>7916993The """10,000 hour rule""" is highly misrepresented. This applied to ELITES. We're talking top 1-5% of all violinists. These weren't people who were pretty good at what they did, they were EXPERTS.In reality, competence, that's roughly /int/, takes only about 1,000 hours of deliberate practice and play. If we compare this to video games (inb4 zoomer!!!), it does take about 1,000 hours before you're better than the average player and can compete competitively. To be really good though, you need a minimum of 3,000 hours and often upwards to 7,000 or more hours. But at that point, you're at a very high level and getting close to being an expert. Most CS pros tend to have about 12,000-17,000 hours. But again, they're pros, the best of the best. Not your average Faceit player.Of course, those 1,000 hours to competence can quickly turn into 3,000 or more if you're practicing incorrectly. That's why adults who pick up drawing and stick to it don't take 12-15 years to get decent but kids often take over a decade to get out of DeviantArt-tier artwork.Also, artists severely overestimate how much they actually draw and most of them, even the ones who can draw well, do not have 10,000 hours of actual drawing experience. If they were actually timed, most would be at around 3,000 or 5,000.
>>7917176We all tols you from the beginning you are an perma/beg/. No matter how hard you try you will never improve. Look at Paigefag ir that big boob loli same character fag. They will never improve just like you. This board is not for you /lit/ is what you deserve.
>>7917189I believe he's the next Kim Jung Gi so
>>7916960daring new outfit from daisy10k likes on xitter guaranteed btw
>>7917190I believe I am next Kim Jung Un soooo
>>7917023@cheesegr8twt
>>7917192So you can suck my little rocket, man
>>7917176I put 100$ bet he will not improve until the end of this year.
>>7917197Very generous, thank you!>>7917190KJG did give me his brush pen in a dream.>>7917189I don't know anon, I'm seeing quite the improvement from the last two weeks I started.>>7917182>>7917184Thank you.I did notice that artists who are good often mess up proportions yet still make a drawing look good. I'll attach an example from an old thread from 2020. The anatomy is so fucked up yet it's still a good picture. Maybe it is just line quality and confidence, which just comes from drawing more.>>7917177Most of us are results driven. Even a lot of artists are results driven. They draw for the Instagram likes, not for the process. I've seen them admit that they wouldn't have drawn if it wasn't for the likes. So it makes sense why this happens.I don't think it's just switch you can turn off though. You just decide it. Will indifference into manifesting. That's something you need to work on daily until it becomes easier and easier to care about your progress more than the results. Of course, if you have no progress (i.e. starting out), then there's nothing there to help you. That's likely why it's so easy to quit when first starting out.
more aisha>>7916974ear position makes up alot of the tilt implication>>7916945ehem based alert>>7917145kek, foreshortened arm pointing at the viewer is really nice
Tracing is a valuable tool to manage your expectations.>Never expect to copy a drawing better than you can trace it.It's often a wakeup call to how bad we really are at drawing when we trace something and it still looks like complete shit. Then we wonder why our copies always come out like shit. Not everything is about proportion.Relating to my previous post about learning how to make things more appealing, I'm going to start tracing on the side and trying to figure out ways to make the trace look more appealing. This absolves me of the stress of trying to get my proportions right to focus entirely on drawing something to make it look appealing. This might even mean straying really far from the reference and using extremely simple concepts. For instance, the nose simplified as a dot and the mouth a line. Maybe even the headshape is completely changed. Whatever it takes to make the drawing feel more appealing.I think this along with practicing proportions will help me improve faster than I have been these past two weeks. Getting a drawing tablet last weekend makes all of this significantly easier. No lighttable nonsense or any of that. Just drawing.
>>7917235When you fail we will meme you here forever.
what teachers teach gesture drawing like this? i really do not vibe with the really airy flowy type of gesture drawing most people do, i wanna do stuff like thisthese are all 30 second drawings
>>7917235>Tracing is a valuable tool to manage your expectations.only if you do it accurately, which you arent. you are teh same as the wolf retard. why trace it if you arent following the lines at all. this ia arbiterwolf tier
>>7917244I guess I can't fail then.
>>7917257Forever/beg/
I am wondering if drawing is even posible for me. Was making solid progress for a month or two, then I developed a Tennis/Golfer's elbow and even after resting my right arm for weeks on end its still no good, cant even use the mouse with my right. Fucking hate my worthless body.
>>7915912You're supposed to draw while studying the course...
I AM HAVING EXPOSUREEE BIASS I DONTWANT DRAW ANIME CARTOON SHITS REEEE
>>7917269you'll be ok. takes some healing. i get similar issues sadly. you just can't draw as much as your peers unfortunately and have to make adjustments for posture. I learned to draw with my left hand to compensate - btw get a scan of your neck if you can. what I thought was carpal tunnel was actually a mild disc herniation in my c5-c6
/beg/ has made me realize that I hate drawing, but I love trolling and shitposting. thank you /beg/
>>7917281No need to thanks us for trapping you in this thread forever. Enjoy your eternity with us.
>>7917235>flat disproportionate symbol drawing is his result from tracinglmao spend less time writing
>>7917235Symbol drawing promaxxx.
7 years fail fag getting humiliated by everyone lollol
SEVEN YEARS A PERMANIGGER
I seen some artists who can draw in any style like HOW? how they doing that
>>7917306can we call him a nigger? I mean we just saw his white hand multiple times.
>>7917307Many years of dedicated and intentional practice (note: tracing photos poorly will not help with this)
>>7917311I mean look at adko he can do anime style/classical or academic style what the fuck? how he doing that? he even did some cartoon styles too like teen titans, adventure time ect. like wtf
bonus doodles
>>7917235How the fuck can you fail at tracing so badly Jesus. You know what would've helped your deluded ass? Knowing the anatomy of at least the skull and 3d manipulation or you know that construction thing that you hate. This is some insane level of symbol drawing for someone literally tracing a photo with all information already present on it
>>7917313I dunno who that is but he's probably done a shit ton of copies to get to that point. You can flip through Yoshinari's rough sketch art book and you'll see he explores many different styles. When I say a shit ton, multiply whatever you think that means by 10.
>>7917244Just because he hasn't given up yet that doesn't mean he hasn't already failed.
>>7917252anyone?
What do I draw when I don't know what to draw?
>>7917316idk he makes me feel like i need to study anime/cartoons even that is not what i want draw
>>7917320copy anything you like or draw random,shapes,lines,patterns etc till the whole page is filled.
>>7916938try drawing it first
serious question. how do I approach drawing simple cubes / cylinders?I'm getting their direciton wrong even with a reference on hand. Should I try drawing the closest (largest) circle first in the case of a cylinder? No matter how much I try I can't get the angle right of it either.I'm aware the cylinder has a slant to it and it should be egg shaped but I always make it a perfect circle instead
taking pictures is so fucking hard
>>7917328Show?
>>7917252Look into reilly rhythms, similar but not quite. You're going to inevitably need to modify whatever approach you find. What Ina has going is mostly a simplified down mannequin. Knowing the bean for torso and some simplified head (a roundish right triangle for a quick profile view does quite well) will also serve well. I don't know if anyone teaches gesture drawing that way, Steve Houston or Michael Hampton might be closer to what you're looking for. Better yet look at how animators do it. More importantly, don't do 30 second gestures. Assuming you're at the level I think you're at, you need more time to observe the subject and make good decisions. I'd recommend 2-3 minutes. Ideally you should have a process for how developed the drawing should be. Have a checklist if you must. Once you've gotten everything that was essential on the page, don't add more. Instead you can rework an area or mark that you think can be better/more interesting if you have the time.taco might be good for you too.https://www.instagram.com/taco1704/https://x.com/taco1704/media
These were pretty rough. Felt like a workout. I still prefer Jack Hamm's approach to drawing cartoons though. I might make my new set of 16 copies to be Jack Hamm's stuff.>>7917256Granted, but this particular drawing wasn't meant to show tracing exactly. This was my own hybrid approach after I had already traced it by drawing on top of it. I'll see if I have time to make it an anime face with similar proportions since suddenly people care about depth. Speaking of which...>>7917288Depth naturally comes from tracing more. The more you trace, the more you notice, the more you naturally include. This is no different from copying except you don't have to worry about proportion.>>7917315This goes back to my flow chart.>learn the skullNot possible if you can't>3d manipulationBut that's not possible if you don't know>perspectiveAnd perspective can't be properly learned without proper>observationThus, it becomes a catch-22.If you HAVE to immediately, in your first try, come up with depth without making a few bad traces, where will you get this observation from? Copying? Ok, lets say we copy. But don't you need 3D manipulation to draw a skull? Well, shit. Now we're back at square one.The logic in this thread is all over the place.See this post for a GREAT example of exactly what I mean: >>7917328.Anon, cannot OBSERVE correctly because he's skipping the copying step where you learn to observe and draw what you're looking at. This is why people fall off at Draw a Box and other drawing courses. They skip over drawing from observation because they assume the artist already has the ability to draw from reference. This is true for kids who have been drawing their whole life but adults are on giga-hardmode when it comes to drawing and have to learn from scratch.That's why I believe I am the saviour of /beg/. Who else but me understands the struggle of the /beg/? None but I.
>>7917359So what youre saying is, just copy for a month straight and then draw what I actually want? Because, let's face it, what I want to draw will come out looking like shit and I will hate that more than whatever I actually try copying/learning.
my got scared and pissed on the floor.
>>7917362Learn observation techniques.I always recommend Dorian Iten's course.You don't just blindly copy what you want to draw, you need to observe relationships. Just doing copies blindly is something not even good artists can do without guidelines or some method.The point of this is to get BASIC observational skill. This means you don't struggle figuring out the angle of lines, distances between them, and sizes of shapes. You focus primarily on 2D here.Once you can copy 2D fairly comfortably, you'll move onto perspective where you'll learn forms and construction. Anons on here will tell you to immediately jump to form and construction as a /beg/ but they're craps trying to make you fail. You'll encounter the same issue you have now if you do that. Trust me, I did everything incorrectly and am only now starting to figuring it out.I'll attach my own copy as an example.I start off with blocking in the largest shapes and then move onto a rough sketch before darkening it up. It's not a great final product but it's a trad drawing and the point was to learn not to have a pretty picture, and also lack of actual drawing experience.
>>7917185You're reading too much into it. The general idea is, "if you practice a lot, you'll get better." If you object to that, then I don't know what to tell you.
Bros>>>/a/287438120
>>7917367Thank you for the advice.
not feeling it
>>7916945too lazy to finish the shading/coloring right now so i'll leave it be with the mockup and finish tomorrah when my brainpower returns.
>>7917374If you practice a lot CORRECTLY.Drawing isn't a video game where you can figure it out by pure grinding and maybe one or two YouTube videos here and there.As I always say, you can bruteforce any method into working for you but it doesn't mean that it's an efficient method.Look at all the people who copied Bridgman twice and ended up being good at drawing. That works for a small minority of people. Everyone else will copy blindly and not improve. People who can skip steps are typically the kind of people who have been drawing since they were a kid or who have talent. The rest of us notalents have to learn drawing the proper way.>>7917379np!
>the guy who can't even trace properly is giving advice to begs who are probably already better than himlol
>>7917390Welcome to /beg/, newfriend!Let me know if you are in need of advice. There is plenty in the dome that may enlighten you. Remember the 7 years.
>>7917386Or you could just practice correctly.
>>7917393I can use some advice. The kind of advice I'm asking for is general, like some major points you have learned over the course of your years drawing that you feel are most important to share with newcomers.
>>7917379Here's some more: don't take advice from anyone who's art you don't admire
>>7917402There is something fundamentally wrong about being subservient to someone who in your opinion has bad taste.
>>7917402I've unfortunately discovered several artists I've admired are schizo cunts with massive egos with nothing of value to say. Of course , I am aware they have no obligation to share anything but their conduct is most distasteful
>>7917406That unfortunately describes many in our terminally online society. It's better for you to recognize that they are only human when you see such weakness.
>>7917402TRVTH THERMONVCLEAR BOMB
>>7917386>If you practice a lot CORRECTLY.you mean like practice drawing a motorbike over over again until it take no effort to draw something like that?
>>7917359>This was my own hybrid approach after I had already traced it by drawing on top of it.but you didnt trace it, you draw symbols on top of it. you traced it very badly and probably fast. therefore your own version is very bad, because youre rushing things. take your time
>need to learn more anatomy and simplifying forms for figures>but also want to learn painting so need to study color and values>also now wanting to learn animation
>>7917420Greedy nigger
>>7917421first of all i'm not black and second i'm autistic
>>7917420stupid nigga learn to draw simplified figure first bitchless noballer then do any shit. stay in a single topic shitless hole. simplified porn figure > anatomy > color and valueslearn animation while doing all of these. if you can't fuck you. I will shutdown your shit hole and redirect it to your peepee so you're going to pee poops.
>>7917425You're cool. Can I add you on discord?
>>7917397Which is?>>7917400See flowchart.>Line Confidence>Observation in 2D>Perspective>Observation in 3D>ConstructionThat's what I've got so far.I'm gaining confidence in Observation in 2D now so I'll soon move onto perspective. Moving over to a digital tablet has made things much easier for me. I'd say it's basically required. If you're still drawing traditionally, you'd basically be like a writer who hates using keyboards to write.>>7917402This sounds nice but it doesn't work.Most of the time, the advice from artists whose work you admire is shit. You can't actually learn from their advice. You're then forced at this point to find people who can actually teach, even if their drawings aren't appealing to you. This is something you figure out within like a month of tutorials, do you draw?>>7917411What do you mean by "no effort" though? From imagination? Or being able to look at it and copy it well?If you mean from imagination then that's already skipping a few steps. In order to draw from imagination you need to learn construction, which requires perspective/3d, which also requires observational skills. Slow steps. And I don't think drawing will ever be "no effort" unless you're maybe someone who's been drawing for 30 years. Even then, I don't think those people would say drawing something doesn't require effort.>>7917414Yes, I know. I said the actual trace was underneath. Then I used the trace as a base to do the drawing you see there. That's why it barely matches. I admit it was a very poor example to use.
It's all about grind
>>7917359>The logic in this thread is all over the place.Here's a logical step you can follow: give up and pick another hobby. It's for your own good. You are ngmi and you'll just suffer while you try.
>>7917429>What do you mean by "no effort" though? From imagination? Or being able to look at it and copy it well?you remembers the blueprint of the motorbike very well so it takes no effort to draw it again.>I don't think those people would say drawing something doesn't require effort.if you draw something for the first time it would be always difficult to draw it. but if you draw it over and over again again it would be easy to draw it to the point where it takes no effort to draw it.
>>7917406People who have worked hard to develop a skill tend to be skeptical of those who haven't put in the work. Especially drawing where most beginners are looking for shortcutsYou get more from one harsh "looks like shit, you fucked up the anatomy perspective and etc." comment then you do from 10 of "looks great anon!" People who can improve have the humility to accept criticism. Those who don't, well, you don't have to look far to find them
>>7917173Render anon here:Thanks for the notes and the link to Sam’s video, the button up shirt is exactly what i want to achieve. I will continue practicing
>>7917185>The """10,000 hour rule""" is highly misrepresented. This applied to ELITES. We're talking top 1-5% of all violinists. These weren't people who were pretty good at what they did, they were EXPERTS.>In reality, competence, that's roughly /int/, takes only about 1,000 hours of deliberate practice and play.Being a violinist pro is unironically easier than being mid /int/.If you are competent at drawing after 10k hours. You are a lucky one.Even Algenpfleger, the most talented speedrunner to have ever lived needed pretty exactly 10k hours (a bit more) to get good and get a job as an illustrator.Consider: if you draw for 2h45m every day of the year, you are already at the 1k hours. That's just not enough time.
Wip. Want to rework the legs and angle of the staff
>>7917436>You get more from one harsh "looks like shit, you fucked up the anatomy perspective and etc."This is leads you to two paths. one is quit forever other is these >>7917359 massive text wall spammers.
What’s the difference between /beg/ and /int/?Can you give me some examples from this thread?
>>7917442Agree to disagree. I would personally rather get honest if rude feedback than hugbox glazing
>>7917443/beg/>>7917393>>7917382>>7917363>>7917332>>7916857/int/>>7917388>>7916960there isn't much ints alive anymore. they all been murdered and poisoned by unknown alien creatures called perma/beg/s. back in my time /beg/s and /int/s lived peacefully.
>>7917445pyw
>>7917443>intthe 7 years prodigy>begthe rest
>>7917441Omg she is so cute! Can you draw her with some blush next?
Wasn't here for a long timeCan i get a quick rundown on that permbeg guy trying to give advice on how to improve to others while showcasing his horrible stufy stuff? Is this just a big troll or is he genuinely delulu
>>7917444you're saying that because you had some experience with drawing. if someone call a drawing done by a beginner a shitty, ugly or something rude they will blame it for not having Talent then quits or this >>7917359. I agree to disagree with your Agree to disagree.>I would personally rather get honest if rude feedback than hugbox glazingsure buddy. you would do it. will others? why beginner want to draw? most of them want to show it to their family and friends maybe social media to get praised from others people who have fun while drawing don't have this issue. when those "Most people" ones artworks get called ugly, shit, worthless, talentless freak or something that going to hurt them directly what they tries to achieve. so it can leads to quit drawing forever or this >>7917359.the solution is to ignore their artwork or say "nice keep it up" so maybe at least it might motivate them to draw more.we should only give harsh advices when the poster specifically ask for it.
>>7917446do i need to post my work to confirm i can detect int from begs saaar?
peak schizophrenia hours
I'm a beg but hopefully I'll improve once some anatomy books arrive in the mail
>>7917450>a big troll or is he genuinely deluluboth i say>showcasing his horrible stufy stuff?everytime i see his artwork and the wall of texts he typed my eye balls starts to generate so many tears. sometime I imagine him as a person who draw a stick figure and type a autobiography explaining origin, power and personality and stuffs for that stick figure.he don't know art is about less words and... more... "'' Art "''.
I will be migrating to digital completely in two weeks if I stick with drawing. Lets see if I can make it that far!>>7917434I guess it could work if what you're copying is exactly what you want to draw. But if you want to draw from imagination or make things look more real, you do need the fundamentals. Of course, you have to study them in the right order rather than skipping to the extremely hard ones like anatomy.>>7917439I think you're severely underestimating how much time it takes to get to 10,000 hours. If we compare this to video games again, you have to make a deliberate effort to play as much as possible for years just to barely hit 7,000 hours. That's doing a highly dopaminergic activity like gaming where you often FEEL like doing it, so you'll naturally do it more. It's also an ugodly amount of hours doing one thing.Also, you brought up needing 10,000 hours to become an illustrator. But the point I'm making is that competence doesn't require 10,000 hours. Illustrators aren't just "competent" in their field. They damn good. They're not mid /int/. Not to mention that these things like /beg/ and /int/ mean almost nothing.If you drew for roughly 3 hours per day consistently for a whole year and hit 1,000 hours of drawing, you're not going to be /beg/ anymore. Unless you practice incorrectly.Again, I think you guys greatly underestimate how much 10,000 hours is and greatly overestimate just how many hours competent artists spent to get good at drawing. I'm not talking about pros at drawing. I'm talking about being good at it which is different, not the top 1-3%.>>7917447Hard agree.>>7917451>or thisAscension.
>>7917451You're assuming a lot of shit you don't know anything about, "buddy"*Actually I was thinking specifically of the first time I posted in one of these threads, maybe a week into seriously drawing at best. They rightly clowned my ass but when I got over the butthurt and read between the lines, there was good advice thereAnd I don't give a shit about your "most people" they can take their sensitive asses back to one of the thousand other worthless art hugboxes on the internet, and never improve*read as: faggot>>7917450Well that would fall under the purview of your conundrums of philosophy. If it looks, walks, and quacks like a duck, is it a duck?A couple threads ago he admitted to trolling, anyway
>>7917449Ty! Sure I’ll do a blushing face later this evening
>>7917464>>7917469meds. now.
>>7917445nah I'm permabeg af but thank you.
bath drawingnoa izumi from Patlabor turned out shit
is there a drawing pad people here recommend?
I dont know what to use for references. the cute anime girls I want to draw are impossible.
>>7917497Do you want to draw anime girls? You can just use AI references.
>>7917499That would feel odd, and there's plenty of mistakes there.I don't know how I can use realistic female proportions into lithe and beautiful anime girl.s it's overhwleming ande piosoei
>>7917497find an artist you like and copy them.>>7917491you copped out on the helmet and hands but don't be too harsh on yourself. putting something ugly on the paper is better than nothing>>7917441very cute
this stuff is really fun but perspective is such a BITCH
>>7917497Start simple and work your way up, panty and stocking is pretty simplistic
gene starwind>>7917441i think you forgot to add some volume on the inside of the staff head as well. really cool composition though>>7917501the background is simple but interesting, it doesn't detract too much attention but it still looks nice.her knee, the one that's halfway hidden in the back is way too large. or am i misreading that line and it's supposed to be a leggings seam?
>>7917506thanks for the feed back. the back knee/leg is definitely too large and I didn't catch it. I'll pay a bit more attention on the next piece.
Fuck it, decided to start the Visual Novel anyway.I'll make do with what I have.I finished the background sketch and main menu music.Audio:https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1776120880035639.mp4https://d.uguu.se/rNPdFFUD.mp4I haven't figured out the plot yet or any of the characters.I figure while I'm drawing them it'll come to me.>>7917480NO.
>>7917516i will buy your game
im legitimately too stressed out to draw right now. I wish it was a relaxing experience but it's impossible for me to simplify forms or draw anything that's remotely enjoyable. I just want to die.
>>7917521same sis
>>7917521relax by drawing boxes
>>7917429Do I have to do all this shit before draw figures?
>>7917521Let's kill each other together
>>7917531how does he keep the bunny tail in place
no idea how I landed here but it was fun to draw
>>7917533Initially it was lower to imply a tailplug but thought it was too vulgar so just fucking put it there. Magic or shit.
i cant do this.icantdothisi cant do this I can't do this
Finished up the sprite for Aria (SHE HAS A NAME NOW!) and the background for the initial scene before she is taken to hell (/ic/).With audio:https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1776126176565557.mp4https://h.uguu.se/yAzgECHA.mp4>>7917519:3
>>7917529Figure Drawing is one of the fundamentals you'll learn where you can apply construction. But it's going to be frustrating to do if you don't first have perspective/form knowledge and even worst if you don't have the ability to copy something. You don't "have" to do anything, I'm just providing a way to learn that offers the least amount of resistance. Many people have learned using various odd methods, namely copying Bridgman twice and somehow never needing to study the fundamentals. That works for some people, won't work for most. If I'm being completely honest, you'll have to figure out your own path. I can only provide a suggestion but you need to fine-tune it to your own proclivities. For instance, if you're going to draw American cartoons, you need to learn silhouette but you don't really need anatomy.Stuff like that.
wip. again trying to realize an idea above my current skill level>>7917549kino. I kneel>>7917145>>7917534high-tier GMI>>7917501this one doesn't look as good, but I NEED to know, was this reffed or from imagination?
>>7917558I luv u appealchad
>>7917533Offset tailplug
well this is as good as i'll be getting the arms for now, also i fucked up the pose in the end (hands a little too seperated) but i'm honestly happy since my main goal was just drawing hands/arms in positions i struggle with>>7917327no i HATE drawing>>7917152thanks for actually going out of your way to attempt it anon and good job
I HAVE NO FUCKING TALENT PLEASE GOD FUCKING LET ME REST REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>7915782
I'd love to draw ass like that but i should end myself
>>7917558I appreciate the compliment. all from imagination todayothers from reference are here>>7916048>>7916064>>7916489
>>7917591play nikketrust me bro
tutorial>>7917558i kneel>>7917549this nigga is clinically insane
I haven't studied in a while, I should tonight.
>>7917558>realize an idea above my current skill levelAny pointer as to what you want to do or do you simply seek to challenge yourself, if so you may try doing some less orthodox poses or doing more sequential work like comics. You were working on a comic right or was it someone else?
>>7917473Yay I'm looking forward to it c:
>>7917596i cant enjoy anything anymore because it just makes me angry i cant see the shapes or draw the world just makes me angry now
Finished two CGs for Aria.She falls into the depths of /ic/.Tomorrow I'll work on the background for /ic/.Right now, the dialogue is pretty shit. I'll fix that up later as well. I want to have a prototype down rather than trying to make the first iteration perfect.>>7917558Thank you!>>7917598You misspelled sigma male.
I want to test somethingI want to see my process step by step to see in which steps I'm prone to making mistakes, what those mistakes tend to be, and why I make them.I realized some big mistakes and fixed them as noted, but I'd appreciate it if anymore could be pointed out.
>Try to follow Milt Kahl's rule of turning off all distractions>No music, no youtube, no background anything>My monkey brain keeps trying to distract me with drawing shitty porn sketchesAnyone know how to stop this? I don't want to make porn at all, I hate that part of myself. I'm almost thinking I'm pavloving myself. Since I don't listen to anything while gooning, my brain thinks what's supposed to be art time is pleasure time
>>7917589Please draw that Stocking in cock shock from a thigh sized cock onegai!!!!!!!!
>>7917607Please draw more big assed whores.t. your fan>>7917589I luv u so much frenchie
>>7917602>>7917449
>>7917589You forgot her eyeliner.
>>7917441nice
After I finish my current project I am starting a training arc to draw better ass o7
I got a pad of Strathmore bristol paper. How am I supposed to turn the pages, do I cut each page out after I finish drawing on it?
>>7917618Uncontrolled excessive porn usage or consumption entertainment can also be tied to adhd. This bullshit could have been corrected at childhood if you were given rigid schedules.Until there is a reliable treatment for that brain failure, your brain is only for porn consumption since apparently that is what you did to your brain since childhood. Everything else will be biologically hard for your brain. And also you will pass it to your children. There must be a really hot adhd mofo in your ancestors
>>7917625sure
>>7917634damn. The whole game was rigged from the start.I don't think it's unconquerable though. I've completed le 90 day no fap challenge recently. I had to really limit my distractions though, and drawing at the wrong time made me slip down the slope. Problem is one of my strategies was to distract myself with a TV show or a video game, but I don't want to rely on any dopamine hijackers like that. I haven't played vidya in months because I see it as such a waste of time, just like porn.
>>7917622She is cute what color is her hair?
>>7917643Brown
>>7917646Oh, this is already existing character. I've been a fool...
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
can't see the form. but i will doodle
>>7915782Ok
how do i draw with a resolution size of 320x240 for my hentai game?
>>7917698Set your canvas to 320x240 when you make a new image
>>7917469>You're assuming a lot of shit you don't know anything about, "buddy"*Actually I was thinking specifically of the first time I posted in one of these threads, maybe a week into seriously drawing at best. They rightly clowned my ass but when I got over the butthurt and read between the lines, there was good advice thereAnd I don't give a shit about your "most people" they can take their sensitive asses back to one of the thousand other worthless art hugboxes on the internet, and never improve*read as: faggotBuddy, those """sensitive asses""" never leaves this thread. If they cant make it they wont let others too. Then they trolls here endlessly. They gives bad advice disguised as good advice. If they found out your social they will raid it. They will call good advices bad and misleading. You're a newfag so you don't understand it. Also this site is filled with retarded faggots and edgy kids so we been surrouded by edgy,anime,cal,cartoon,fetish arts so our exposure bias take the place and drive us far from our original goal. Beaware dont trust /ic/ if you do you are here forever.
>>7917702brocel.. i know thatproblem is how do i make it look good
>>7917705Make a good drawing, duh
>>7917705Ah, I see. You were asking "how do I learn to draw?" 7 year anon will fill you in.
>>7917595>all from imaginationI thought so. the fact that you bothered to draw the detail of the woman twirling her hair shows your creative spirit>>7917600>You were working on a comic right or was it someone else?there are a few here who draw comic stuff. I like drawing sequences but they take a lot of time that could be spent on doing studies
>>7917096The septum ring is a septum ring, but I probably could have used a fineliner or two colors to differentiate it. I am real bad at connecting the upper body to the lower body at the hips, so that’s something I need to practice.I greatly appreciate the feedback! It’s given me some things to dial in on and more ideas iykwim
The background for /ic/ (hell) is done.Now I gotta work on a nervous sprite for Aria.After that I'll try to work in some more script. I think she'll be bullied until eventually a knight in shining armor (me) comes to save her from her permabegness.>>7917636Nice butts!>>7917682Literally me.>>7917688Would.>>7917721Have I just been summoned?
>>7917145more cow
>>7917747luffy???
>>7917736You're so easy to ragebait. I will continue.
>>7917747
>>7917636holy chud kino batman
>>7917685cute:)
I'm going to break down proportions further.Dorian Iten talks of getting the biggest proportions FIRST before moving into the block in. I want to focus on that first part before moving into the block in. That means 100 to 150 iterations of this.I'm dubbing it BATTLE SCARS.So the BATTLE SCARS METHOD.But it's not really a method, it's just the first 5-7 lines you put down to mark the largest proportional relationships.If you can't even get this absolute basic part first, the whole drawing falls apart.In the drawing below, I was trying to make the width of the drawing too long until I realized that the entire figure fit within a box. That's because the amount of space the figure took up was as tall as it was wide. This is something I need to be able to instinctively see and put down. The fact that I was making the width too long proves that I do not have this in my subconscious and need to train it. So that's the ABSOLUTE FIRST step of the Observational guide. I'll update my Flowchart accordingly.>>7917747LMAO>>7917685Like the style
>>7917802>head is smaller than my penis.>chicken scratchLMAOOOOhe never learns from mistakes. no wonder you're a permanent beginner.
Wrote more of the script.I have a several drawings to do when I get home.I learned from my previously failed Visual Novels that it's better to steamroll ahead and finish something, even if it's bad, than to stay stuck on chapter 1 trying to perfect it. I also learned not to get too ahead of myself. Writing too much script without drawings will just overwhelm me later. So my approach for this one will be to write a little bit of the script then do the drawings, then rinse and repeat until the chapter is done.For the first chapter, we introduce Aria and the main characters. This is supposed to be a self-insert, so I'm going to be in there helping Aria escape /ic/. I should probably think of other characters.
>>7917811
>>7917807We went over this already, not everything is chicken scratch.
>>7917814exaggerated example in case that other one isn't immediately obviouschicken scratch is a very specific way to draw, just because something looks bad or messy doesn't make it chicken scratch
>>7917814>not everything is chicken scratch.LMAOOOOOOOOOOworst justification ever.>chicken scratch is a very specific way to draw, just because something looks bad or messy doesn't make it chicken scratchLMAOOO HAHAHAHAHAHAAAA
>>7917818We've been telling you this for 7 years now. "Chicken Scratch" is a popular buzzword among /nodraws/ for things obviously not Chicken Scratch. Similar to calling everything symbol drawing.
>>7917811Drawing doko?
>>7917821It is clearly chicken scratch. Stop running.
>>7917736you should learn how perspective works instead of just copying
>>7917811Where's the drawing? Maybe /agdg/ is more your place.
too.. smalltoo.. basictoo.. isometrichow do i fixvf this......
>>7917578I had so much fun doing the first I wanted to try and do another
>>7917637There's no need to doom about it. Oddly enough I have the opposite reaction: I used to jack off daily and since I started drawing again it's more like once every two weeks. Personally I've struggled with porn and other addictions. I don't have the urge to pursue them as much anymore. Mainly I used them as coping mechanisms and sources of pleasure since I wasn't doing anything with my life. Since I started making tangible progress in different areas (including drawing) I don't need to masturbate, smoke, etc.Anyway suppressing your sexual urges isn't helping you. I'm not telling you to draw porn, but it's fine (arguably good) if there's some eroticism in your art. Mystery, hidden things. And hey you can also just put on some music lmao
You all killed my pasion to art. Fuck you all. I hope all of go blind.
mi tink me gwaan tek mi own life...
>>7917811SAAR USE AI TO WRITE CODE SAAR IT IS BETTER
If we don't make a new thread, and let this one fall off the catalog, we can be free...
>>7917851You can take the anons out of the /beg/ thread, but you can’t take the /beg/ out of the anons…
saaar marc brunet, sinix design, proko, jakecantdraw, kash and all other big jewtubers with us right now in this board saar they doing these chaos for years saar it is sad saar.
I think I'm starting to understand why the face is so hard to draw.It's because the face consists of a bunch of value changes, NOT contours.This eureka moment came to me when studying the mouth. The mouth IS NOT a contour. That's why it's so fucking hard to draw. It's a VALUE CHANGE. We're drawing a form that overlaps a mound that has slight gradation. The overlapping part can easily be denoted with a contour but the rest of the lips CANNOT. That's why you NEED to stylize the face if you're not rendering values. It's impossible to create a good picture by trying to actually the values exactly how you see them because they are NOT contours.This is why drawing feet felt easier. It's not because they are less complex than faces, though they are, but because I'm specifically focusing on the CONTOURS of the foot, not on the subtle gradations of value on the foot. If I was forced to draw the subtleties of the values, it would become just as difficult to draw as the face. This is why when we draw feet, we remove as much detail as possible. If there is a bunch of wrinkles on the soles, we typically do not draw it.
I've expanded on my point from this post here >>7917802.The point is to take the sections of Dorian Iten's course slowly. So instead of rushing to block-in, we first focus our attention at the very first part. Focus on the huge shapes. Training our eye to tell whether our subject is as tall as it is wide. THAT specific. This is because I seem to struggle with this absolute basic fundamental step. Once I've got that step down, I'm reckoning it'd take about 150 (maybe 250 if I'm really untalented), before I got it down intuitively and can move onto blocking in.I've also included a section regarding figure drawing. That means to learn the armature (and maybe a little gesture) before taking a bottom-up approach. This means learning to draw the feet first as opposed to the head first. Of all the figure drawing videos I watched, I believe they do all of it at once, that just seems like too much. You never really know when you're "done" and can move onto something else. Anons on other threads imply you need to draw 100,000 figures before you can work on your coomslop, I just don't buy it. Maybe if you aimlessly study figures, perhaps, but that applies to everything.>>7917822I'm not sure what this means.>>7917827You need observational skills before you learn perspective. In the BG posted, I didn't copy anything, all from imagination btw.>>7917850NO. I will NOT relinquish my soul to a MACHINE.
reddit is the worst place to learn to draw.
>>7917834cool, this one reminds me of the fred durst pose
a lil rollercoaster with this project, constantly going back and forth, etc. but it's looking like somethin :---D
>>7917862/ic/ is worse>>7917838based quitbro>>7917834I like it but you didn't draw the pose either time>>7917747kino, keep going>>7917595don't choke me bro!
>try to work on faces>realize im autistic
>>7917871pyw
>>7917871That’s cause I used a different reference for this one, I thought that was obvious. Would be boring to do the EXACT same pose.
>>7917874I wasn't paying attention to filenames, derp. You did still invent an eye >>7917152
I joined r/drawing discord server I hope to improve in there.
