>you mind your own business, not bothering anyone>a Russian schizoid writes you a passive-aggressive email and sets a trap for you>you reply, only to fall further into the trap>the Russian schizoid says "aha!" and launches a massive report attack on your account because you "wasn't polite to him">your account, with its 10-year audience, is permanently bannedNever reply to anyone who doesn't live in America, Australia, or at least Canada.Never reply to people from Eastern Europe or lower.
>>7915940>Hey, thanks for checking out my works. Refer to my commission sheet. Cheers!if they reply back with no $ delete the dm.
>>7915940theres also been a rise in african accounts amd they are just as bad as jeets
>>7915949my african bruaddas love anime? wow, nice.
>>7915940Permanently banned for what? Nothing in the OP text implicates the artist for anything
>>7915940>Never reply to people from Eastern Europe or lower.Gotcha, pidorashka. I will follow your advice and hide and report this thread.
>>7915947>Hey, thanks for checking out my works. Refer to my commission sheet. Cheers!he will just reply with a wall of text how you are bad and not understanding the situation of a poor guy from eastern europe or some other bullshit like that.DO NOT REPLY - is this that hard to do...all you have to do do avoid conflict is not to engage with such people.>>7915954he got spam-reported around 20 accounts and bragging about it. OP's image is one of his "trophy screenshots"
>>7915955ruzke?
>>7915957Can't you take those posted screenshots alongside screenshots and links to the bragging, send them to moderation and have the account restored, since it's basically the culprit posting proof of how illegitimate the reports are?
>>7915940I’ve commissioned artists who are just as bad with sob stories.>Sorry for the delay. My whole family has the flu and my mother needs me to bathe her.>im increasing my prices by $50 because i was in a car accident and my 10 children died.>i dont draw X because my dad once hit me with a belt and it gave me PTSD so bad i now take a dozen medicationsLike, dog, just do what you need to do. I don’t need details about your life.
>>7915940op got felted by a Slavic chad
>>7915940look at the date, retard, they're both russian
>>7915963the secret technique of getting any account back is…you ready? threatening legal action. that’s it. just make sure you know what you’re doing
try not being a degenerate coomer freak and you won’t have what is obviously just desserts happen
>retards are now just finding out what kind of "people" are in the nsfw sceneIt really feels like 90% of the time, pornfags are underage hence the lack of any lived experiences and critical thinking
>>7916090Everything is new information to someone. New people are born every single day, did you know that?
>>7915940>it's from /pa/Oh this is the guy from 2ch furry board draw threads. I assume he was banned from their threads if he's posting in /pa/ which is already dead board. This guy is fire frfr no capThread 2ch.su /pa/res/945345.html
>>7916152>touhou>inuyashaIt seems like he begs for loli/shota and furry than report you if you don't draw them for free.
Anyway not like you can do anything against mass reports. It's nothing new. There are entire discords for this. Even if you don't draw anything lewd you can be mass reported to trigger auto deletion.
Yeah, I think as any online "personality" you need to be really careful with what you say and do not say to others. I've seen so many good artists get buried, turned into lolcows, or run off the internet because they just couldn't stop responding to naysayers, haters, critics, whatever word you want to use, people are pretty petty and if they can shove their foot up your ass they'll do it. Mind you very few of these people were deserving of being attacked they just revealed that they were human and able to be hurt. The "best" artists are the ones that do not respond to any negativity, I believe. Someone QRTs them to say that they're a pedo with shitty art who needs to r0pe or such and they simply block or they had the word pedo and other canned Shitter phrases filtered to start with.
>>7916168What Would Hideki Kamiya do? If you have any doubts, you block them.
>>7916170I somewhat agree but I also disagree because even he responds. And, again: you should never do that. Responding gets you made fun of even more. Like yes it's human to hit back or try to argue with people that come at you. It's understandable and IRL, at work or in regular social settings, you should absolutely self-defend and advocate. But the internet is different. Nit-picky or purposely inflammatory comments can easily be called "criticism", and if you disagree with "criticism" then you're obviously just a big baby who needs to be worshiped or coddled and is incapable of seeing his own faults.Contradicting myself but if I'm being Really Honest the best absolute path is to not even block, simply ignore it. If you block they'll get a sense of satisfaction, worst case scenario they start bragging that they got under your skin because you realized they were retarded and removed them from your space.
>>7916178Is getting blocked actually satisfying for trolls? It takes like half a second to block someone.
>>7915940How hard is it to not reply to a schizo fag?
Is OP really banned? I feel like that part isn't true. Can someone confirm?
>>7916184Yes, it's satisfying. Logically speaking it's as you said, it takes no time to block someone, but from the view of a troll it means that they saw your comment and were so offended by it that they just had to try and punish you in some way.
>>7916120>proving a nonchalant comment correcti can't be wrong even if i wanted to holy shit
>>7916194There's nothing you can do about how they view it though, from the side of the blocker, it's just house cleaning. Who cares about what the troll thinks? They can go ahead and make a new account and get blocked again. It's not a big deal and really does not take much mental energy, I think you're affording the troll a lot of power that they don't actually have.
>>7916198This, like, who cares exactly? They will brag about it then what? Make another one? Just block it again.Do not feed the trolls, non interacting is the best path of acting.
>>7916187>Lol, I logged in now, and this idiot's account was destroyed based on my report from yesterday, and now he's just a wreck. And why the hell would you have been rude a year and a half ago, saying "love won't give me money?"Seems legit. He also will report you if you ignore him btw. So take notes. /ic/ need to learn some courtesy to satisfy naughty Eastern Princesses.
>>7916201how hard would it be to build the following from scratch? it wouldnt be completely from scratch, he already has a reputation and is known
>>7916198I was just giving perspective.
>>7916201>>7916202So you can just report someone for anything and just get your account suspended? Such a garbage site.
>>7916225Thats just how the internet works, thats Twitter, Discord, Patreon, Jewtube, Paypal. They are all the same, unless youre a BIG SHOT whose wrongdoing causes a massive uproar and you can leverage that to get your shit back then yeah, people can just report you on masse and ruin you.
>>7916230Yes, you should give up while you still can. It's over.
to top it all off the shizo is an ai jeet
>>7915940I'll just reply "lol just go use AI then"
>>7915957It's very hard to resist dunking on poorfags
>>7915940>"If you refuse, I will not bother you, but politely say goodbye and leave">Proceeds to bother you>Is not polite and spergs out while insulting you>Doesn't even say goodbyeMan, fuck this guy.
>>7916185Years of avoidance practice and knowing how not to get baitedWhich is hard for artists that don't rely on drama
>>7916198you care dumbass, you want your online image to be untainted.> I think you're affording the troll a lot of power that they don't actually have.i think you've been using internet for 1 week in total...seriously when did 4chan become so normified that basic rules on the net have to explicitly explained?>>7916200blocking IS interaction
>>7915940the only replies I got on my DM is from an autistic from Baltimore maryland. And he was ranting how I stole his OC, when I was drawing a fanart of Suu from Monster Musume
>>7915940lmao that guy messaged me as well about a year ago. asked me if I could draw some girl from this russian VN even though there was nothing in my page even hinting at me knowing about that shit at all. I thought he got banned
just ignore any third worldersthe odds of them being an oil baron are slim to none
1K followers isn't that much if you draw popular things, even my dumbass 1-post-a-month or less made it to 1K.
>>7915997>Slavic chadoxymoron
>>7916194>punish you in some wayblocking someone is not punishment, you just do yourself a favor
>>7920586>t. r1aped
>>7919085>Broken wrist, hand is on backwards>Different hair>Different expression>Different facial proportionsDo you want control of your tools or do you want your tools to control you?
>>7915986That's how I became an artist. I couldn't find anyone who was capable of execution while asking for a sane price.
>>7916152>>7915940russians do this because they believe in izzat btw
>russians do this because they believe in izzat btw
>>7915963>send them to moderation and have the account restored, since it's basically the culprit posting proof of how illegitimate the reports are?in theory? yesin practice? lmaooooooooooundoing bans requires manual oversight, tech companies are tremendously understaffed for moderation almost always, if they can help it they'll ignore you unless your banning causes enough waves to hurt their public perception OR you threaten legal action, otherwise a single wrongful strike might as well be a permaban, time to make a new acc
>>7915949That's ok, I accept BBC pics as payment.
>>7915940I draw for free as a hobby and this made me upset, how can people feel so entitled to other people's work?
>>7922103art is not practical so it makes people respect it less
>>7922154I think it's more that it's perceived as a fun hobby that makes people feel it's its own reward and you're greedy for wanting to be paid for it, like demanding money to play a video game
>>7922103>>7922154you tend to notice this more in latin america. Those fuckers are super entitled and treat art like shit to the point they think not getting any free art is a human's right violation. When ever an artist opens commission or an artist is trying to sell their work, the first to get mad about it is some fucker from latin america.
Send His Discord Tag to a gay Thread saying "Add me , this is my Tag :)" follow it so you know if he changes it , and do it when you are bored (for 2 years minimum). And keep doing it none stop. But also never respond to his Mails again.
Extra suggestion. If you find his Steam account if he is retarded enough to have it in a bio in whatever Social. Hire a small BotFarm and have his main one mass reported for scamming. Do it more as a hobby so you aren't obsessed.
>>7915940>>7916152>>7916157>>7916164You did nothing wrong OP, people like that are assholes and there's nothing you can do about it. Even if you draw for free out of kindness like me, then they'll treat you like garbage by asking for revisions. Those types get off from being selfish and controlling others.
>>7922168>perceived as a fun hobby that makes people feel it's its own rewardhuh I wonder why is that [spoiler]it all comes down to art itself being useless anon[/spoiler]>Those fuckers are super entitled and treat art like shit to the point they think not getting any free art is a human's right violation. Lmao yeah, they can't conceptualize that art is a luxury. I'm mexican myself and people here overall just lack respect. Poor education and you get this low empathy, anti intellectual types. Which is a shame because culturally the country has a lot to offer.
>>7922206theres no spoilers on ic touranon...
>noooooo I surrounded myself with the perverted and the mentally ill how could this be happening to me????
>>7926834its about not about spoiling, its about [spoiler]comedic timing[/spoiler]
>>7915940So as an artist your career can get ruined for refusing to do free work?
>>7927388drawing porn on the internet is not a career
>>7915940This is the funniest interaction I have seen. You can be from Russia but have the soul of a Indian
>>7916090https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XprR09ZRgHYIt's live that everywhere bruv
>>7922183well, I have to agree with that Inu Yasha character mentioned in the OPif they keep this stance of doing art for the green bux, pic related will replace them
>>7922174Because a lot of relatively successful online artists are themselves from Latin America, and due to their generally shit economies and access to firstworlder wallets, said LA artists are able to make a decent living just by drawing double digit USD commissions. The result is that other LAs resent their success, and develop a hatred for artists. This is why thirdies in general seethe so much about muh coomission artists and gloat about AI, because they view it as knocking those rich, fatcat online artists down a peg. This feels particularly odd to a firstworlder, though, because 98% of online commission artists are at best earning what would be a minimum wage in a firstworld country, minus any sort of stability or benefits.
>>7927396Then what do you call people who make a living doing that?
>>7927867same thing you call whores sucking off truckers at truck stops lmao
>>7922178>>7922181This. You have to fight fire with fire
>>7922206Everything that isn't a natural formation has had some degree of art and design applied to it you fucking faggot retarded gay no-draw requestfag beggar bitch. Go back to /co/ you deranged chronic masturbating queer
>>7927876>same thing you call whores sucking off truckers at truck stops lmaoYour mother?
>>7927903>calling whores your mothernot kink shaming, but I wouldn't share that with people if I were you
>>7915986Things I WILL NOT Draw:>hate/political art.>art of real people (this includes your self-insert because i can't draw humans)>characters canonically under the age of 25, even when aged up.>anything that triggers my PTSD (no consensual bondage, age gap, or characters with small tits).Payment MUST be 100% upfront! wait times are 1-2 years, please be sure to complete this absurd google docs form to get put on my queue. contact through my pisscord server only! there is a 100% upcharge for NSFW.
>>7927906YOUR mother anon, use that tiny speck in your head called the brain
>>7927920you call whores your mother anon?
>>7927922>Brown ESL cant comprehend the english language
>>7927924I'm sorry to hear that, you'll get better at itwell not the brown thing
>>7921161what we need is a constitutional amendment to prevent websites from banning people for protected speech or without court approval. start treating people's accounts like personal property rather than a service contract.
>>7927926Lol
Private websites are not government entities. Literally every website can ban you for no reason at all. They are not bound by the First Amendment.
>>7927664No one needs any art at all. You go on rule34 and find porn to last you a lifetime. Why does anyone need a specific artist to draw something specific? People repeat it's to see the image they want to see, but after you've seen your favorite anime girl taking it up the ass once, why do you need more? The hidden reality is they want the validation. Someone drawing the art is more real than an algorithm doing it. Because subconsciously people subconsciously look for connection.You can test it. Make a painting and go sell prints at a convention vs putting them on a website. I guarantee you will find more buyers at a convention per physical viewer that sees your art. People prefer to buy a piece of connection, a memory of being somewhere, a proof they existed and did something that meant something to them. It sounds artsy, but it's just human psychology. An algorithm kills connection. If something it makes people crave it even more. Getting a "commission" is selling someone connection. Not with you, but with the fact an artwork has been made for them specifically. That someone heard them and validated their wishes through the art. That's what you really sell. In fact the artist's personality isn't even needed. What's needed is which part of it emerges through the art to validate the buyer.
>>7927943>An algorithm kills connection. ai is soulless trash. >No one needs any art at all.wrongeverybody needs art, a few can afford it.
>>7915940Despite passive-agressive-unemployed-european-guy being in the wrong here, I think a gentler answer could have avoided this situation.The request apparently meant a lot to him. Again, I'm not trying to justify his actions, but I can see how getting so easily dismissed after uh... "turning to OP with his dream" could get to his nerves.Like."Hi. Unfortunately I can't afford to work for free, but I'll be happy to draw what you want once you're able to support my craft" or iunno some similar shit.I know that's easy for me to say not knowing how many similar requests OP gets. Anyway.
>>7927932And yet social media sites are granted special immunity from liability by the government because they are supposedly a "public square" as opposed to publishers of user-created content. The government could, if it wanted to, simply threaten to withdraw this immunity unless the social media sites allow free speech to the full extent provided by the First Amendment. This won't happen, because the government likes censorship and (under the Biden Administration most recently) actually pressured social media sites to censor and ban users for expressing skepticism/opposition to covid measures, etc. So the government, knowing most of the discourse is happening on social media, actually sees this as an opportunity to get around the First Amendment, although the courts have ruled it unconstitutional for the government to lean on tech companies to censor users.
>>7927970The op was a rude retard and paid the price. Good fucking riddance
>>7915940why is art the only field of work in the world where people forget you need to pay the rent too? no one goes up to chefs expecting free food or tutors expecting free lessons or private eyes expecting free investigating
>>7930394Oversaturated field means that a lot of people do it for free, including pros. It also doesn't help that aphantasia is really common these days; so it's hard for people to consider what the other person is going through.
>>7930394Only wet nurses know our plight
>>7930394because of some retarded retarded notion that got spread around about artist working for free and retards took that as gospel. Same with the whole "the costumer is always right" shit. It's even worse in shitholes like Latin america, cause those fags treat art like shit to the point, they think not getting free/super cheap art is a human right violation.
>>7916164i had a brazilian guy act like this because he wanted me to give him my discord account, but they cant do shit if you just never talk in public discords.
>>7916168>The "best" artists are the ones that do not respond to any negativityor they thrive within it
