The general thread for Manga / manga-styled comic-making, manga-style illustration and related comic work. That said, everyone is welcome here.Support each other and talk about your work or the work of others that excites you. Inking, character design, paneling / layout, writing, planning, and other discussions are all welcome.Post resources, questions, in-progress pages, breakdowns of other works, etc. If a work is not yours, credit the maker (unless it's fucking obvious like a full page of One Piece or something).Thanks to everyone for making /mmg/ a level-headed and helpful place. Remember, drawing and making comics and manga are difficult endeavors, and we're all in this struggle together.Previous thread: >>7911345Some resources:/asg/, our stylistic sister-thread series for those focused more on illustration >>>/ic/asgBooks:Understanding Comicshttps://e-hentai.org/g/2042453/83e7da6ed0/Making Comicshttps://annas-archive.org/md5/d55168f7579c1e23275d1fc9f0a2255dManga in Theory and Practice: The Craft of Creating Mangahttps://annas-archive.org/md5/2877da11e2f852d220853e9944e6ea49Story: Substance, Structure, Style and the Principles of Screenwritinghttps://archive.org/details/RobertMcKeeStorypdf/Even a Monkey Can Draw Mangahttps://kupdf.net/download/even-a-monkey-can-draw-manga_58b9ca16e12e89233badd376_pdfThe Shonen Jump Guide to Making Mangahttps://mega.nz/file/i81imLpI#GcheJ9Jjk3lw1RE9nQWgL4RG4wEBNOcRmgA-iaU6WpgVideos:"Manga Senpai/Tokyo Name Tank", "SMAC! THE SILENT MANGA AUDITION COMMUNITY"Habanero Scans: https://www.dailymotion.com/HabaneroScans/videosManben link can be found on archive.org on different pages separated by season: https://www.reddit.com/r/manga/comments/1bu9f0y/found_all_of_naoki_urasawas_manben_and_manben_neo/Urasawa Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkIFOAoFm47XOAlJwTa6Ieg/videosOP image is from Gunslinger Girl, Chapter 75.
>>7917929Some western / indie publishers of Manga:Saturday AM ( https://www.saturday-am.com/ )> Digital indie magazine, seems to be on the up-and-up> Open submissions for long-form series; also distributes series currently being published elsewhere.> Regularly publishes one-shots, making it a good potential outlet for already-finished work.Oni Press ( https://onipress.com/ )> Technically indie, but at this point large enough by comic standards to be mentioned in the same breath as other publishers.Antarctic Press ( https://antarctic-press.myshopify.com/ )> Longtime large-indie publisher of OEL / manga-esque books.> Seemingly taking submissions at present if https://antarctic-press.myshopify.com/pages/submissions is anything to go on.Yen Press ( https://yenpress.com/ )> Started out as a small indie publisher of original / Korean material, and has grown reasonably popular since.> As of 2016, it is also one of the western arms of the Kadokawa Corporation, with Kadokawa owning a 51% stake.> Editorial inquiries can apparently be sent to yenpress@yenpress.com, however, they apparently are not open to new submissions at this time.Viz Media / Viz Originals ( https://www.viz.com/originals )> *The* western manga publisher.> Currently in the exploratory stages of setting up an English label.> Submissions are open and several books have been announced. However, progress on the label seems to be moving very slowly.> Still might be worth a shot anyway.Shrine Comics ( https://shrinecomics.com/ )> Small indie manga publisher> Seemingly attempting to make the transition to physical volumes> Allows crossposting to other sitesIconic Comics (https://www.iconiccomics.com/)>A bit like Oni Press and Antarctic Press>A small publisher with a focus on indie works with manga inspiration
>>7917931Other open comic publishers:Dark Horse ( https://www.darkhorse.com )>Dark Horse still welcomes your submissions, and all submissions will still be reviewed, just as they always have been.>All unsolicited story/series proposals must have a full creative team on board. Writer-only proposals will not be reviewed.Image comics ( https://imagecomics.com/ )>Image Comics only publishes creator-owned material. They do not contract creators; they’re only interested in publishing original content for which you would retain all rights.>Image Comics publishes creator-owned/creator-generated properties and THEY DON’T PAY PAGE RATES. Image takes a small flat fee off the books published, and it will be the responsibility of the creators to determine the division of the remaining pay between their creative team members.Drawn and quarterly ( https://drawnandquarterly.com/ )>Please email a low resolution PDF with at least 20 pages of comics and cover letter to submissions. Do not send dropbox links, scripts, or proposals. Please read our submissions FAQ.Fantagraphics ( https://www.fantagraphics.com/ )>submission page: https://www.fantagraphics.com/pages/faqTop Shelf Productions ( https://www.topshelfcomix.com/ )>Regarding submissions, we're easy. Just email us a download link of what you'd like us to review. NOTE: We cannot accept cover letters, plot synopses, or scripts unless they are accompanied by a minimum of 10-20 completed pages (i.e., fully inked and lettered comic book pages).Additional publisher lists:> https://jasonthibault.com/definitive-list-comic-publisher-submission-guidelines/> https://writingtipsoasis.com/best-independent-comic-book-publishers/
>>7917932/mmg/'s very own anon-led anthology: /ic/onographyhttps://discord.gg/QYnFBves7Vhttps://forms.gle/d3a2Cwwd44sJYyqv9(Anthology project is defunct but the discord is alive)Additional community added Resources:Mangafonts: https://mangafonts.carrd.co/Hiro Mashima YT: https://www.youtube.com/@mashimaCh/videosGanmo, a job listing board for manga assistant work: https://ganmo.j-comi.co.jp/postsHow (You) can help /mmg/:> Know about a contest or a publishing opportunity? TAG THE OP and post a link.> Have a new resource? TAG THE OP and link / mention it for inclusion.> Don't be a crab> Have a link / DL for a mentioned resource? TAG THE OP and mention what you're supplying a link for.> SCREENSHOT / PASTEBIN effort posts that help you for posterity.
>>7917940Kill yourself faggot.
I'm making slow but steady progress, and experimenting with removing lines from the old ladys face since she looked too old and evil before
>>7917953Really nice lines,
WHAT DO YOU MEAN PEOPLE WON'T REALIZE HOW COOL THIS FIGHT PLAYED OUT IN MY HEAD UNLESS I DRAW IT WITH EXCITING AND FLOWING CHOREOGRAPHY
>>7917993jokes aside, this is a serious thing to train yourself in.Art is about communication. It doesn't matter what you personally feel when drawing it, or what's in your head. What matters is what you communicate. If some character of yours posseses some personality trait but you never showcase it, then it basically doesn't exist.Learn to analyse your own story and characters from an outsider perspective and figure out what you're really showing, not just what's already in your head, but what's on the page.
>>7918028>If some character of yours posseses some personality trait but you never showcase it, then it basically doesn't exist.That's fine, I'll just tweet about important plot or character details that I never bothered to put in my story, it's what professional acclaimed writers do!
>>7917953Gorgeous stuff!
What are your go-to fonts? I think OP pic is awkward but I can't explain why.
>>7918053Because it is basically some bog-standard New Times Roman shit, or something similar. A typeface you'd see in a newspaper or an online article. There is no flair or style to it. It is probably the most utilitarian typeface on the planet.
>>7918053>>7918055It's not all-caps. In comics we tend to use all-caps for dialogue. Don't know why, but it looks wrong when you don't.Anyway I just use fonts that fit my artwork. I'm partial to CreativeBlock and EvilGenius, but it's hard to go wrong with WildWords or AnimeAce.
>>7918053Speaking of fontsIf I hope for one day my comic becomes super famous, should I avoid using a free font licensed as "for personal use only"?Like legally, I can't use it to sell my comic, but surely nobody is going to scrutinize this right?
>>7918061Could I just like, take the font and slightly modify the letters so it's technically mine? I mean how different are fonts anyway when there's so many of them? Surely just changing the dot of the i to be a slightly wonky do would absolve me of any legal liability?
>>7918057>It's not all-caps. In comics we tend to use all-caps for dialogue. Don't know why, but it looks wrong when you don't.That doesn't help, but it is really that it is just a boring, bland typeface.The reason why all-caps is used is a holdover from literally the early days of print, when printing was shittier, and lowercase letters often got dropped when in print. They were capitalized because the larger, bolder letters usually didn't fade out like that in print. It is something that is 100% unnecessary to continue doing in this day and age, but as you mentioned, most people are used to it. Plus, it is easier to draw attention to what you want to emphasize to the reader by bolding or italicizing words.>>7918061If you get them online from many places, it will say what you can and can't use them for. Most places that allow you to use them for free will allow indie creators to use them, so long as you're self-publishing (either print or online). If you end up publishing through some big, well-known publisher, you usually have to pay some small, one-time royalty fee or whatever. Blambot was always one of the go-to sites for typefaces/fonts for a long time.
>>7917953>1749652847973594.pngShiiiiet, if i try to draw manga it looks like sinix as well. Its over, isnt it?
Does it really makes sense to invest time and effort into a dying industry? At least if you have to pay rent and buy food?
>>7918084No. You can quit now. Bye-bye.
>>7918087Should i draw Batman instead?
>>7918084If you're still drawing manga in 2026 you're a delusional idiot (like me).
>>7918084It's not about money, it's about art and showing the world what's in my heart
>>7918083It aint over till its over. There is a surgery you can do kinda like hair transplants in turkey but for anime influence in japan.
>>7918083When you find yourself habitually drawing in a style that you don't like, it's a sign you don't have control over your style. You are simply drawing in your natural style and aren't experienced in drawing in other ways.Spend some time deliberately drawing in a multitude of different styles so as to thoroughly break down your own habits and allow you to redevelop your natural style with elements you like more
>>7918083>sinixhuh?
>>7918159Oh come on.
>>7918163NTA but I also have no idea who this isA quick google search tells me he's some painter guy who does tutorials and has a pretty exaggerated style.
In response to the guy talking about black and white comics.They were black and white the page is white and the ink is black. It's binary. It's the cheapest format to post. Even screentones are just black dots, still prints even with just black ink.It's purely a cost cutting method, but actually it's pretty difficult to draw an appealing picture with just black and white, it's too high contrast. Give a child a pencil and naturally they draw multiple shades.
>>7918208He has even a live stream, talking about the same topic of drawing good looking woman with wrinkles.https://youtu.be/3bCJOBcHqQw?t=391
>>7918210Why are you on /ic/ telling people drawing is difficult... everyone here is either beg and knows, or is already past that hurdle.I personally like drawing in (almost) pure black and white and just doing minimal hatching.
I shrink my pages down to about 20% and blur tones but what are some other methods of enshittifying
>>7918229>or is already past that hurdle.Drawing never stops being difficult.
>>7918388beautiful art, but a little hard to follow (I'm retarded)
>>7918410Read from right to left in a zig zag pattern downwards. I’m curious what has you stuck, im sure you’re smarter than you think
working on a small smut comic where an indentured worker and cowgirl have [spoiler]romantic[/spoiler] ranch sex
>>7918422its actually pretty clear, I was reading it left to right at first.
>>7918422okay, I was reading left and right at first. Its a lot clearer
>>7918388Even I got a little confused. What I noticed is that the page doesn't focus on any specific event and keeps most panels relatively the same size with similar gutter sizes throughout, so I have a general interpretation of what's going on but not one with a sense of weight. You might be trying to cram too many shots in one page so in this case I really suggest limiting how many events take place and giving breathing room to the most important moment of that scene.>>7918428you mean "Death and Taxes" ?
>>7918444I agree with this anon, it makes more sense reading it like a western comic
>>7918428Well, I like Franklin,
>>7917987OK, the fight scene is drafted and finished. total page count is 104. surely NOW they can fuck. im giving myself another 60(ish) pages to get this done.
>>7918444that is correct. the narrator is going to be characterized as a himbo as it goes on, so he didn't remember the quote properly
>>7918444>>7918447Thank you both for your feedback! Would be cool to have you check out the rest! It may follow a similar look, perhaps I’m just too excited to move along
>>7918444>>7918447Thank you both for your feedback, I’ve had to retype this5 times I’ll adjust
>>7918084Its basically dead, like opera or ballet.
>>7918469>dead, like opera or balletTimothee Chalamet? Is that you?
>>7918084Maybe the reason I am a no draw is because I have no desire to make any money from manga (Both toriyama and isayama both got into manga to make money.) Even if I got an offer from shonen jump or something I'd just be anxious about deadlines and having to make something that appeals to an audience.
>>7918534all you had to do in the 80s to make it in manga was be good and have an original style. Isayama is an anomoly so theres nothing to learn from his experience. Just focus on drawing because you enjoy it in 2026.
>>7918544Toriyama was unique, wasn't he? Still his early works were poorly received failures until he caught his break with Dr. Slump.
>>7918027
At what point do I stop feeling like a poser
>>7918567How many pages have you made?
>>7918562Should have waited a bit before posting. Oh well.
>>7918401Found someone who's not past the hurdle
>>7918422NTA but I know what the means. The art is kinda nice in these but I never have any idea what is actually going on. Maybe it's the lack of dialogue. "Silent" comics like these are harder to make since in regular comics the text pulls a lot of weight in explaining what's happening.I have no idea if "EAAAA" is supposed to be before "sniff sniff" or after and it's even less clear what "OOH OOH AAH AAAH" is even depicting.The panel with the floating character I assume shows them jumping through the air... but where? From where? And why? What's with the one panel that's just a close-up of someone's foot?
>>7918586It's been 12 years. If I'm not past the hurdle then it must be one hell of a hurdle.
>>7918428update>>7918458damn that was a cold line
>>7918578cute!
>>7918053arial
>>7918646this comic would look better with handdrawn text. It would pair better with the handdrawn panel boxes
Most characters in these pages so far are just unpleasant to look at, dysgenic, deformed. Not sure where the Western obsession or compulsion to depict ugliness stems from. It seems to not be a lack of skill, as the other elements of the drawings are fine, so it's an intentional ugliness.
>>7918650I tried that at first but after a while I decided I like it with arial more, I'm not sure why. I'll think about it more later
>>7918623Looks good. Cow girls are kino
>>7918654thanks! have a cowgirl. I'm eager to draw the smut part but I want to challenge myself to build a brief narrative and do characterization before jumping into the good stuff. This is my third comic and it's crazy how much I'm learning about workflow.>>7918053I downloaded Anime Ace from a font website. It's basically what you see in mangas. I'll also sometimes draw over it a bit to make bold letters or add effects. I'll use handwritten text for special cases. You can see both examples in my post above >>7918623
>>7918589It is my first time trying to start a story with no dialogue, it’s been interesting getting some feedback, perhaps i need to slow down and take more time to express the momentsIt’s read from right to left, there’s two panels expressing the sniffing before she screams so it comes afterDoes it not look like flailing her arm around? Those are arms? …Thanks for the feedback
>>7918651pyw
I'm working on an action comic right now for my first one-shot and 2/3rds of the pages are fight scenesThat's a pretty good ratio I think
>>7918669you will have to do a lot of rearranging and resizing to make it clearer if these problems continue. I know it sucks but sometimes you may have to..... delete a panel. The art is too beautiful to waste so you can definitely use the stepping panel somewhere else, but you can cut it from this and it increases the clarity and flow and makes the page more vertical.
>>7918651how about you share some examples instead of passive aggressively vagueposting like a weenie. This thread is for feedback and most people here are trying to draw cute anime girls.
I like my deformed freaks>>7918721sounds good. I rewrote my current arc when I realized we would go 3 chapters without a fight.
