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You know what guys? I genuinely like the art style of older american comic books
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>>7920609
Capeshit is gay full of steroid muscle men
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I'm sure this thread will be productive and insightful.
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It's just Loomis and Bridgman in gay spandex
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"How to Draw Marvel Way" is not a bad one to learn from
Though from what I remember they had some hilarious mistakes in their perspective examples
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>>7920611
> I hate being an strong muscular SUPER HERO
The absolute pussyfication state of america ...
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I don't think people have a problem with the art OP, just the subject of superheroes, thus the 'capeshit' moniker.
I also quite like the art of older comic books.
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>>7920609
>>7920611

american comic books do have a general charm of looking heavily stylized while still maintaining realism. my main critique of mangaslop is that, while visual appealing, they omit a ton of detail like noses and chins and the characters end up being plain and same-y.

that being said, i do not like the huge variance in art styles in western cartoons. i could not read the IDW TMNT comics because they would have a new lead artist for every damn volume and it was hard to feel immersed in what was supposed to be a continuous story. there is no quality control in american comics, but if you're main issue is seeing buff men all the time, then you clearly haven't been paying attention to all of the pretty girls like picrel.
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>>7920745
I feel like the best of both worlds was when Japanese artists drew capeshit like in Marvel vs Capcom and American artists had anime-influenced art styles in the 2000s. Both were still rooted in their cultures' native art movements and art education, but learned from the other in a beautiful way.

Just the right amount of detail and lack thereof.
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>>7920803

that reminds me of the original teen titans series that was pretty heavily influenced by anime. they created an appealing art style that still had the same poorly lit, dark, empty urban aesthetic that DC is famous for (especially anything batman).

however i think that the genius of old 2000s cartoons is that they had to tell a mature story while keeping explicit violence and language down. while i dislike censorship institutions of any kind, i feel like everyone is trying to be deadpool or rick and morty nowadays with over-the-top violence and swearing coupled with nihilistic "meta" humor and i swear i can smell the millennial writers' avacado toast through the screen.

our idea of "Style" as it relates to art, comics, and movies is really just a combination of easy workarounds for technical, economic, or censorship constraints. we honestly should be more creative without these constraints now that anything is feasible but we've encountered the same issue that unoptimized AAA games have now where no one puts any thought into it.
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>>7920609
I've been getting these random 80s cartoons recs on youtube in this style that look pretty cool that I didn't know existed. Not sure if Japan animated those or the west.
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>>7920609
Depends how old. Golden Age is trash.
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>>7920611
That's what makes it amazing you retard.
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>>7920626
Elaborate?
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I always enjoyed the look of Spider-Man 2099: the particular stylisation of the anatomy was always very appealing, and the colours were nice, if limited.
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>>7920965
That would take me more than 2 minutes so fuck you
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take the kirbypill
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>>7920862
I assume you mean stuff like G.I.Joe and M.A.S.K. Marvel was actually involved with G.I.Joe and Transformers and made tie-in comics with those. The shows were animated by westerns studios like Sunbow and DIC but in some cases like TF it was in collaboration with japanese studios like Toei. You could always tell when they were outsourcing stuff to asia because the animation would randomly be far better all of a sudden lol.
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>>7920611
>steak is full of meat juices
>cake is full of cream and sugar
>music is full of noises
incredible insight
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And then there was Filmation which had been making cartoons in a similar style since the 60s and they also made some capeshit stuff like Batman. I actually thought they made the classic Spider-man cartoon but it appears that was done by some canadian studio. There used to be a whole industry but it's all gone.
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>>7920988
spiderman is the true crossover figure for capeshit, even batman weirded out normies enough that the jokes about him being a gay pedo are commonplace to this day, but everyone thinks that some iteration of spiderman is genuinely kinda cool, whether its the raimi one, the one from the games, 2099, unlimited, etc
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>>7920961
wrong
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>>7920961
There's a lot of good art in the American golden age of comics
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>>7921159
Yeah, even the Japs love Spider-Man. I think he's the most popular superhero, with Batman and Superman(?) taking second and third place.
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>>7921166
>wordswordswords
>inconsequential drawing of a talking head
this is my real issue with american comics, it's like they're all written by failed sitcom writers with no comprehension of visual storytelling
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>>7921171
>why would there be text in a book
Are you sure you weren't looking for animated cartoons instead? Those are written for literal toddlers like you.
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>Are you sure you weren't looking for animated cartoons instead? Those are written for literal toddlers like you.
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>>7921173
>this reads like it was written for a sitcom and badly adapted to a different medium with no understanding of visual storytelling
>ummmmmmmm ACKSCHUYALLIE the physical form this medium occupies is the same as that of literature and instruction manuals - a book - therefore it doesn't possess intrinsic qualities not found in those that require consideration. I am extremely intelligent
okay, retard, now tell me how an aerobic exercise dvd is a film
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>>7921152
kirby had a lot of woke opinions about nazis, sadly. but he's still the forefather of american comics.
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>>7921156
>>7920963
Gay
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>>7921160
I love EC Comics, but they're barely Golden Age.
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>>7921166
I'll always find it amusing that Frank Frazetta always drew himself in his comics.
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>>7921159
spiderman doesn't seem all that spider-y if you think about it. i mean, "bat" man is a cold, scary shadow of the night, but spiders are also scary and spiderman is just some chill highschool nerd. spiders-man is a literal hivemind of tiny spiders inside of a spandex suit, THAT'S what i would expect from a spider-themed superbeing
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>>7921788
og spider-man was a borderline psychopath
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>>7921719
>always drew himself
Its an easy always available model, so it's hardly a wonder.



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