>>7921020
sounds like a loser

>>7921020
ya im a nepo baby. as it should be

>>7921020
No, hence why I treat art as a hobby and wage slave.

The only way you can live off of commissions as an artist these days is if you live with your parents like that guy
Or get lucky like>>7921051
And then there is always the other option-live in the third world where everything is dirt cheap and get paid in USD.

I'm a state leech, I get paid a monthly wage for being mentally ill and a sad depressed fuck.

>>7921020
I know a couple a fags earning together like 15K (minimum Patreon, probably much more) while living in a second world. Probably they prevent their country to be a completely failed state lol

>>7921120
I meant to reply to >>7921053

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>>7921020
Female artists will claim that they "make it on their own" compared to the dirty basement dwelling neckbeards when in reality they just get subsidized by their husbands/boyfriends instead of their parents.
Socially that is more accepted. But financially and career-wise they are the exact same thing.

>>7921020
>my bank account doesn't belong to me anymore
That's what you get for being a fucking underaged twat. Figure it out. Get a job, open a bank account, then start figuring out how to restart your art hustle again

>>7921020
Why not? Even back when I was a junior I was paid 2k euros a month which was well enough to live on.

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>>7921020
>porn artist
>kicked out the house
>doesn't own a bank account
what the fuck?
Is he actually underage?
what the fuck

>>7921020
> owns Twitter, Discord, Ko-Fi, Paypal and probably Patreon accounts and whatever
> too dumb to open and take care of a proper bank account

>>7921020
Seems like his issues are deeper than simply not earning enough money.
How does he not have his own bank account?
Why would his parents kick him out rather than force him to get a job?
Why would he phrase it as him no longer having 'any use' to his parents?
So there's more going on there than simple money issues.

Anyway, onto the main question:
>Can you afford to live on your own as an artist?
Obviously you can, but it takes more hustle and work than simply making the art, which breaks a lot of the insulated basement dwellers brains.
Making a career in art requires some social ability.

i was living in a $750/mo dump for the last two years and could just barely get it and all my bills covered every month at the cost of ignoring many a debt collector. my childhood friend bailed me out recently by offering me a room at his new place which i'm pretty grateful for, it's probably the grandest gesture anyone's ever show me. so to answer your question OP, no.

>>7921175
>ignoring debt collectors
Based, those people are evil anyways

>>7921186
theyll take my kneecaps any day now lol

>>7921124
Those women who say they quit their high paying job to chase their dreams on YouTube? Just look at their heads and you’ll see a ring on their finger. They have a lifeboat, but will blab in front of the camera about how risky it was.

>>7921020
>>7921137
>>7921153
> bank account
Some people are actually inept enough that they can't handle opening or managing a personal bank account.
Or maybe the dude is some kind of special needs mental illness case where his relatives got partial control.

I earn enough to pay for all the food my family and I eat, as well as most unexpected expenses. I suppose I could live on my own, and I would like to, but then I wouldn't be able to support my family. In any case, I have a regular client who commissions me to create several illustrations or short comics every month, and I am grateful for this. Without him, I would need multiple clients to stay afloat.

>>7921020
>I've been kicked out of my house
Obviously not his house, then.
>now that I'm no longer any use to them
The only situation I can imagine where this statement is appropriate is if they adopted him for government gibs. Otherwise he was only ever a drain.
I don't want to be too coarse, but being an artist means choosing a tough path. Everyone in his life probably warned him against this. One can't do this and still act like a pussy.

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Porn artist here. If I lived in my home country in Asia, then yes I can live comfy. In the US or Canada? If I’m frugal, still yes.

>>7921020
No, I work as a civil engineer and only have a small amount of time left to paint.

>>7921124
>>7921195
>m-muh women
you guys know you can just fag out and marry a man, right? do what women do and try to become beautiful, let some old bear fuck your holes and become his waifu. it's not impossible for you to attain what you desire in 2026

>>7921057
I’m being paid by my state as well but it won’t last forever which is why I need to make the most of it now

>>7921020
Yeah, I made a lot of money with my art lol. I'm now like >>7921051
But I'm "self earned" but I always been a lazy nigger.

>>7921296
A disgusting foid wrote this post.

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>>7921314
For me it will last until I die.
Can't relate, lol.

>>7921296
Death is better

>>7921325
Which is why the fire is under my asshole.

>>7921153
There's a good chance that he simply never bothered to open one on his own, and let his parents handle everything.

>>7921285
In the united states is impossible unless you leech off of someone like your parents or a spouse.

>>7921172
Anon has never felt the pain of living with someone who doesnt want you there.
We don't really know what his relationship with his parents are like. For all know, they are mentally ill and violent, and were just looking for an excuse to get rid of them.

>>7921172
You type like someone in their late thirties who hasnt had a real job.

>>7921296
silence roastie

>>7921195
>Animal does what it evolved to do.
I hate the demiurge, but come on.

>>7921338
It's possible if you treat it like it's your second job.

>>7921195
>>7921124
I know two women that are genuine pros at drawing and mog 99.9% of this board and xitter, and they would rather keep their accounting jobs that pay in the 6 digits while demanding basically 0 effort, over gambling their livehoods being artists, even if they genuinely already have the technical skills and income to make it.

If anything it puts in perspective how insignificant art truly is, to people that make genuine money. And it's kinda depressing knowing it, if I'm being honest.

>>7921352
>I know two women that are genuine pros at drawing

And? Nobody can piece together how they got "pro". For all I know they could have gotten a full ride through life at private schooling while the rest of us had to battle in public school with fragmented education that led to nowhere.

>>7921352
> I know two women that are genuine pros at drawing and mog 99.9% of this board
> 6 figure jobs
> professional level hobbyartists
Yeah we know, anon, you keep mentioning that.
Heckin valid, girlbosses, trans rights and all that.
Wish I had such a big penis.
Sad society is keeoing these passionate female artists down.

>>7921352
if i wanted to do money with art, it would only because i would not want to wage slave
but anyone with half a brain cell figures out its better to get a job than play social media online pachinko

>>7921153
In my country parents are legally allowed to manage their children's bank accounts until they turn 20. Virtually everyone has a bank account and a debit card that can be used like a credit card starting at around 12 years old, but your mom will be able to steal your shit even at 19. Also your bank account is your digital ID, which means that your ability to pay your bills is tied to your reputation on local auction websites. It's fucking bullshit every which way.

>>7921328
but you've said that women can use men as lifeboats and have expressed envy over that position... so are you saying that they aren't really in an enviable place? make it make sense

>>7921344
>>7921318
shave your bodies and become twinks. you can get the #female experience ezpz, you can totally get a man to use as a lifeboat and cruise (bc it's easy to do and a great alternative to slaving away forever right?) it's not 1945 anymore and some of the most powerful men in the world have engaged in butt sex homosexuality (peter thiel, trump, etc.)

>i dont want to have sex with men
>noooo just do it everyone heckin does it bro le trumpet xD
estrogen really is a helluva drug

>>7921421
my point is more that leeching off your partner isn't something that's impossible for you to do, it's not "socially more acceptable" for a woman to leech off a man than it is for a faggot to leech off another faggot. you don't want to work? get yourself a man, baby! go get subsidized

insane that estrogenics say to leech off other people but the moment you say you're getting free money from the government they literally treat you like an animal

>>7921362
>rest of us
excluding the people in worse situations that actually managed to make it?
oh woe is you, faggot

>>7921438
Finish my sentence in your greentext. While Billy and Sarah had to suffer every single day with Dequan and Keysawndra causing a shitstorm in Mrs. Clark’s 4th period science class where you learned nothing because she never got to speak a word about today’s lesson and just handed you a paper and said “good luck”, Jennifer, raised in a beautiful oasis gated community staffed with the finest police officers in the county, got to go to a school with proper funding in the arts. Hell, even the name “art” is in the school name. She’s the one getting online saying she’s only 14 and talented, not your ass.

Who had it rough? It wasn’t Jennifer. Are you saying there’s some kid who had it rougher than me? Everyone had to go to school. I don’t know what your point is.

>>7921385
what shithole are u in?

>>7921444
didnt read
go cry elsewhere white kid

>>7921480
I'm black.

>>7921057
Jealous as fuck. Im a depressed sperg and all i got is equvalent of 55 dollars, despite disability. Guess my country is too eastern for that

>>7921445
Finland lol
Like the rest of the nordics it's a neofascist shithole, and I don't mean that in any meme sense, which is why the commies around the world desperately want to copy everything we do. My town doesn't even have bus service because the city government gave the public transit monopoly right to a taxi company. This place is so economically backwards even amazon doesn't operate here. Over the past five years roughly two percent of the population lost their jobs to immigrants with the total number of jobs rising by less than 200 total.

to make a living off your art doesn't just take skill, but also godo mental health. I can only draw if I don't want to kill myself, which is all the time.

>>7921385
what the fuck???

You live in an actual dystopian shithole, where the fuck are you so I can avoid it at all costs.

>>7921529
>Finland
Isn't it like... One of the best things on this planet?

>>7921537
Health care is free, at the cost of the entire country's value being equivalent to spurdo spärde. Communists love it.

>>7921529
You mean Finland ISN'T the socialist utopia leftists tell me?

>>7921537
Binland fucking sucks and deserves its water supplies to be poisoned with nuclear radiations so everyone can die bleeding from every hole.

>>7921487
Sup nigger

>>7921667
I'm Asian.

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>>7921020
This is why I keep art as a hobby.